Joe Rogan Experience #1051 — Duncan Trussell & Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 Live with that. Goodbye, Yellow Brick Road. Yeah, that's some good song. Oh, yeah, dude daniel's a great song rocket man is one of my favorites. Rocket Man's great. Rocket Man's so good. That song has this feeling. It's weird when you find out what a song's about I think it's about like... Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Very similar. I remember that. Yeah, that's a great one. for fighting yeah that's a great one

2:32 Daniel's the first time that's about his friend I like him less. These parables and some of the stories that are in the Bible. That's Daniel. Jamie, maybe you can bring this up. Where he was, like, 69ing all summer is that that, please. actually saying yeah you know like literary interpretation yeah yeah it's all poetry right Hey ya, my baby don't mess around because she loves me so.

6:05 Wow. Wow. Wow. Play some of that. For sticking two together You don't know what great is. I'm the bridge between the meatheads and the potheads. people that are really into yoga and it's like all of them together it's like the weirdest fucking house party when you see them Fucking Burning Man. I think it's during elk hunting season. The float industry.

9:53 what, 1960 something? The first one where you were vertical. You know, he had one where you But with John Lilly, you know, what's interesting about him, And the dolphin guy, Yeah. Well, maybe, but I think that I don't know what's happening when you're doing psychedelics. Like ketamine? Like it might have been concocted and put together Or something similar to the molecule.

12:45 Like they're keys that fit a certain lock. they don't break down, they don't become part of the food chain in a beneficial way, whereas things In particular, if you're from a very specific part of the world, right, where it's a, if which is okay. The ones we don't, which is, my God, It's like a different version of LSD, but we don't know yet the effects it's going to have because it's not like anyone's really testing it out.

15:13 Yeah, yeah. a eunuch or something but it's pulls out his massive throbbing It's almost like he can't help himself. Yeah, just any time there's one person has authority over another person, and they've lived an entire life in that position. That's what matters. Yeah, just any time there's one person has authority over another person It's literally almost like a Monopoly game.

17:15 invented it to teach kids who want to diminish this system that we have, have far less rules, have far less government, right? Anarcho-Syndicalism. It's like this drawing the fucking what it meant. And that how many Jeff Sessions are there in the power structure? Like all these fucking forms. a lot of the corporations used to be in government For example, what's happening right now with the fucking FCC

20:20 Well, just clarify what you mean by that because And you get two versions, right? the squeeze in is, okay, they want to be able to work out some sort of a deal. Okay, great. They're trying to make more money. in the state aren't as separate as we like to think, they aren't in some big conglomerate Oh, dude, no one's a bigger proponent of the internet than I am.

22:57 careful because it could wind up And they get together with Verizon. I think they're very naive about what the world would look like if there were no government regulations. theorists. My idea that my belief that corporations are living things, institutions are living things and their agendas conflict with ours. And that's happening within us. But the problem is...

25:59 That used to be what the family was, but a lot of people don't have that anymore. We're not going to let any children be malnourished in this country. We're all in it together. Is that real? Would we all be able to put the fires out? Duncan. Hey, man, do you even know what a level But one cool thing I like about the idea is like right now we have this hierarchy of, you know, of like careers.

28:51 But when you get together with a group of people who are fucking cool, some people are good at some things and some people are good at other things. I'll donate some money. This is not something that most people can traverse. There'd have to be... It's bigger than the city of Washington, D.C. No, I know. That's how big the fire is. It's what the National Guard was supposed to be, right? It's bigger than the city of Washington, D.C.

30:35 But we're just so disconnected. And we think the state is going to come in and like take care of everything. wants to be in control. That's what's beautiful about it But I mean, I don't know for sure, man. These people are eating fucking hamburgers out of trash cans. That was the argument they made. Right. It's not just on fire. yeah and and you know and like it sucks that people have to you have to like create in your

34:46 shit hitting the fan in a way that always seemed hypothetical you know like this is to me that of the interior and just like it's over like they're this we're reaching this is an end stage recently he's a historian the first question I And there's a restructuring. This is the first time a popular guy entered the popularity contest. Most of those people at the top are at least in some way fucked up.

37:09 Did you read the last, like the straw that broke the camel's back? He squeezed her. to put your arm around your wife in public, It's demeaning. I get the whole thing. Does that mean I have to believe all men because I'm a man? but a lot of these people, We're not talking about taking pictures with people There's a lot of crazy. And by this, I don't mean to excuse anyone and I don't mean to say teenage girls should be more promiscuous or anything.

40:18 monsters at 13 or 14 they're not getting laid very rare rare. Hold on. Go with this, please. Sorry. And so it gets to the point. And you get guys that just chase money their whole lives because they think the money and the power is going to get them those women. like women that weren't attractive in high school? How come they don't lash out in the same way?

42:10 I don't think it's just that. So you probably don't see women lashing out oh, well, people like Harvey Weinstein, I'm a dominating force. Fuck the ficus. It's like there's a lot of frustration that's inherently connected to this suppressive sexual What's going on with you? If you jerk off in the plant, the plant's going to absorb it, That fucking plant.

45:04 I don't want anybody having my cum I think it's the game like we were talking what's her name? Name famous nuttiness to it there's some craziness coercing once you're imposing your will and you're saying i'm gonna you know take away your career way. instinct that, that creatures have. Because if you look at rape in nature, and this is not to Ruthless, right?

48:27 And for the most part, by far and above, we are. But it is problematic to use the word rape when you're talking about animals. Yeah. You want me to hold both your wrists? I saw the dungeon in your apartment, too. Respectful, he's like selling it. Right. That's such a good way to put it, dude. a 30-30 or something. All these, like, macho dudes, I'm exposed as the idiot.

51:58 Yeah. and all the roads are going to be fucked up. Yeah. in which case all that super expensive real estate in Malibu just gets wiped away. dude to get back to your the topic you're talking about it's the what's happening is what the thing Pepe Le Pew. and you realize like, Things are changing is what's happening. next book i but you know research duncan with with like with with what's happening with women is

55:22 with that part of the business. And they're trying to make their way up the ladder that way. and the girl wants to do it and she does it. it's gross unless it's not gross. that you shouldn't be able to give a guy a blow job You can buy things and you can have sex, but you can't buy sex. Like say if you... Dinner. And you're like, okay. But I also want you to pay my house.

57:51 What I am saying is we have a weird – it's weird that we separate commerce from intimacy when it comes to sex. back and I'm in pain, but I'm Do you ever get a witty when you're getting a massage? But it's because being touched, we're also touched, starved. You don't have to tell us. Wednesday. It's like, okay, look, we're going to – and the way she described it was there's no – it's no set price.

1:00:15 And then is money showing up in my account or not? And you go to someplace like Thailand. You know, like, oh my God, that's just like, I feel so ugly, you know? She gets them better deals on rooms and food and everything. Does she need a new refrigerator? anything wrong with it i think the real danger is comes into having sex with someone you don't know.

1:03:00 operating under the echoes had complete ignorance to human psychology, to physiology, to sexual urges, to genetics. If you were in an office eight hours a day, that is most of your day. But in this little world where everything's like jammed in together and you have these clearly defined things. Click. But if you're in that guy's world, and I don't even know what he did.

1:05:00 You have meetings. And he couldn't have sex with other famous people because that would come out into the press. I don't know that them in the 60s again this i don't know that was back when dustin hoffman was grabbing titties dude have you guys ever seen by the way last sorry the last word on this for me anyway The Bill Cosby thing was an open secret.

1:06:55 i don't really want you to touch me right now he's gonna be like oh i'm sorry but then she doesn't Like, come on. That's what they're doing. One of the classics. I won't do it justice. They're so common. I just wanted to call her. Carol doesn't understand me. You know me. they got a mortgage, Well, Not getting much work done. Mike. Right. but... or sanitation or something.

1:10:59 who's a real piece of shit. He's got tattoos on his neck. and women are like fuck this this fucking sucks we're sick of it we're fucking sick of your creepy I remember late at night, there's like the area where the cash register is. You never, there is nothing more unappealing than boss balls accentuated by khaki. assume that those actions would indicate that she would want sexual intercourse i'm saying there was

1:14:11 Because it's like, who wants to be dominated like that? I just don't. Start there. How do we get shit done?law offices. Yes. Yeah. Start there. We need the state, man. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out we were talking about She's got a great Instagram. Yeah, listen to this. That's because he's American. Do you have anything particularly special to express when you sing?

1:17:18 How fucking weird. Don't you think your older stuff's better than your stuff today? They interview people who have seen him. With a suit on and security and i remember Well, why does he want your picture? Yeah, if you double pinch my fat, I will call the police. It got too weird. but sometimes people, they have an agenda, That was crazy you did that.

1:19:52 Yeah. There's never that many people. Lots of cum. Cum. Piss. Lots of stuff. Lots of cum. Just like it's a- Pizza. People try to slip weed into your pocket or something. And then second of all, I don't know you. But I have kids. How bad would that trip be? Dude, once I got home after a show, I'd flown, and someone had given me this framed picture. seen a joint and i would have had to been like nah man somebody gave that to me at a show look

1:22:34 Anyway, I was flying through Heathrow and I had a connecting flight, missed the connecting flight, but whatever. you and I have to have a conversation. And I literally, I said, dude, I'm 55. I set off the machines, set off the other machine. And there were like nine cops in body armor. So if I were black or whatever, I would have been terrified. It was murder.

1:24:50 And then he gunned this guy down. They were like saying clean kill. He didn't comply Scary looking dude, man. Jamie, can And then, You need to see that video. everything looks like a nail yeah that's the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a totally escalate the situation, He was an exterminator and he had like 22s or something that he used for extermination in the room, and somebody saw through the window him holding a rifle.

1:27:29 They're not walking like people to what we were talking about with the women, This is everybody. Yeah. And they fucking throw those grenades and he starts running yeah there was this happened like two years ago there was a homeless guy he's sleeping right out in the the bush somewhere near Hey, why you got that in your garden, man? They didn't have the technology.

1:30:03 And why? What was it you were saying? here because it's like it's not enough that you're an older man and you're it's some helpless kid people and he wants to be in control and he wants to have power and he got himself into a job where so that we can keep them out of these positions of power. That's what I asked earlier. Like Obama for sure ordered drone strikes that killed people.

1:33:13 80,000? Is it safe to say when you're using adjectives for him, of absurd. dictatorships in the Middle East and in North Korea. He's ordering drone strikes. One guy doing any... Yeah, a lot. period of operation between January 2012 and February 2013. Let's take Tex Watson did all the killings. But the thing is, we know or any American president You know how drone strikes get approved?

1:37:13 They get together with lawyers. And they'll literally get together with lawyers. It's that they know going in that they're going to kill a bunch of unintended targets. and there's kids in the van I mean, they're gunning you down with blurry images from the sky. What do you want the thing to wither yeah but this is the this is the the to me this is the most interesting

1:39:26 creepiest fucking things because it's the it's like all right when here in the united states And so we've got our drones blowing people up, but also we've totally armed this country that's destroying this other country. I don't know if this will derail it. I don't think he does. It says it right here. Exactly. But there's also stuff that's happening to places that has nothing to do with America

1:43:08 Who created Iraq? Yeah, team us. who are all, you have a long lasting enmity with each other. that's Islam, right? Yeah. I think it's like all things. Maybe not necessarily suicide bombing, but the Mujahideen were armed directly by the United States. And that is what Phil Seymour Hoffman. A buddy of mine who was over in Afghanistan was telling me how they would put kids in front of tractors because the tractors weren't expensive.

1:47:07 I can't get another tractor. And the worst thing about Afghanistan is, I mean, I know a lot of old hippies Because one of the teachers at these Ram Dass retreats, they all were on the hippie trail, man. Good luck! You gotta go through Iran to get swords. And one of the hippies said to them something like, we're, the full garb. They had swords. There was still fundamentalism happening there.

1:49:27 Whether we've got a viral form of a religion that has infected people's brains and is now like a contained is going to spread with adversity. popped up about these people in cuba state there's some weird chirping sound shot at the embassy I think it went through a wall, yeah. There was a time when a gun didn't exist, and then it existed. you know, not only do we have, like,

1:52:05 on the planet right now and they're going to have access to shit unlike anything we've we've ever Yeah. soldiers crazy on the battlefield. Post-World War II. It's wonderful. This is a real problem. shit but now that we've got these minds scramble with crazy ideas and access to information about I have to record this. Like, I knew. And they bring this dog. Brian was got to get the dog. And we get the dog. So now I'm waiting there just chatting and they bring this dog.

1:55:37 And they're telling me. You know, let's, you want to bet? Right. So they pull you aside. They swabbed the entire laptop. I'm a comedian. I said I bought it from a friend. I don't know why it would test positive or what have you, farm and you got that nitrogen shit Yeah. No way. Yeah, which works when both people are sane but when you're dealing with someone who wants to

1:59:44 this insane creator force that actually wants them to explode themselves. And so, so we already believes when it comes to ideologies is like already fucking up in this kind of intense way. And they believe that he believes that God is blessing america which has never been where he never brought God into the equation before. Yeah. In 2017, you cannot, like if Chris Ryan wanted to run for president, one of the real issues

2:02:33 It'd be great. Tweeting every like five minutes, and it's got like lists of people in it. something's a bot. I've got a really super powerful weapon. Did you see the, I think it was Radiolab or something that did a podcast about that? It's reality bombs where you're going to be able to bomb a culture with AI, produce the illusion of thing, that react certain ways, and that manipulates the hordes right bernays wrote about this in the 20s about manipulating and look at

2:06:17 of what the universe is or the world is based on the news, if fucking humans are creating the content. That's not far away. Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. She's beautiful. Right. Usually the person who's acting cool has learned that from something. That's like how many people are. So we're already dealing with a kind of organic robot, a meat machine that's barely even aware of what it's doing, you know, which is why I think, and I know you and I talk about Christ a lot.

2:09:14 They're just on autopilot. Pass it to him. Let's go way back before written things. Yeah. Now let's go 2000 years ago. Let's, let's, let's go way back before written things. It's all, it's all insane. Because it used to be that you could fuck your employee And so now we're going to change the way we think about behaving now and our standards and you just think about if someone from 1950 tried to exist today.

2:11:40 indiscernible. It'll be easier to text people. I mean, we're now. Some guy with some incurable Yes. what that that archetype is that alien archetype is like what we know we're going to look like if If we get to that point. Right. or other life forms from another planet is not that it's a signal. Yeah. Because he said, it's not that we know for sure that the universe is 13.7 billion years old.

2:16:27 It's like that's as far as we can see with our flashlight. So we assume that's all there is. Well, in my area, they've been saying anatomically modern human beings have existed for 200,000 years. And here's what's really insane. When were we Australopithecus? How crazy is that one? They're only 6,000 years old. that's how far we can detect. carbon date those anyway, right?

2:19:40 Is that how they're doing it still? But just the fact that it exists, How the fuck did you figure that out? The actual asteroid itself that killed all the dinosaurs. That's going to happen. And as computing power gets more and more power, the only real problem would be things that are prehistorical in terms of cultural things. indistinguishable. They have images

2:22:12 Yeah, sure. basically imbued all the data that exists in you has been used to imbue an image of you with your which is like you can't duplicate without permission. indistinguishable you take it home and you fuck jennifer lopez well more like more than likely would project a person onto that. them anyone that you want, you know, so that no longer- Well, especially if we all decided to live in virtual reality.

2:25:34 There's going to be HTC vibes built. Dude, I think it's... and I've never smoked DMT, And I saw this fucking, I don't know, it looked kind of like a cow or something. I'm looking at some kind of super advanced simulator or some kind of machine that is this is not even close to the feeling of being at home here. psychedelics you think no no it's already fucking. And this thing that we're in right now, our lives, the idea of reincarnation is you die and then you become a goat or something crazy like that, a larva, a slug.

2:29:10 Yeah. just be like always coming back to any frame of your life that you want. And anyway, this is what gravitational pull to the habituation and in that moment you're like you don't say the shitty thing I see on your Instagram, like taming the inner bitch. you do move to a higher level. and that seems so easy it seems so ridiculous but you need to hear people say it and you need to

2:31:34 So that feeling when you're like, fuck, I'm not going to go running. countless incarnations and when you do that and you're out there running you're like in a new It doesn't have to be some spectacular thing. I was fucking mad. Like good luck starts happening more. I would like play out this weird play in my mind. I go, you have arguments with people that aren't there.

2:34:25 What's not stupid is exercising out all the anxiety that your body possesses that it creates conflict in the first place. Then you'd be nicer nicer to people that changes everything too And then, and that, I mean, that's exactly what Ram Dass says is we work on ourselves I mean this is something I've been thinking. Say freaking, man. Through all pores.

2:36:43 going to be a sex simulator for sure. Pause Denise. Ultimately, these are just fireworks, kind of. if you go jogging. I don't care that he teleported. You, all you can really do is look at yourself and be like, you know what? Because I think it has to do with translation. But do you think that this, what you're saying is like that someone would do tricks to get

2:39:12 going how long can he hold that like what the fuck is he doing like why did he split the oh we have Walls of water on either side. It's probably, you know, it's a myth. That's in the Bible? I get it. Here. go up, you bald head. I didn't know it was 42. And it's written by a guy named matt In other words, they're stating that when Elisha gone, oh, they want Elisha gone.

2:43:15 Such a statement could easily have been deliberate and malicious insult. It's a whopper, man. So it's the a conversation. All of his family is dead. But the part where- part in job that's i mean again literally yeah it's fucking ridiculous but it's not like it's They get into an argument. and this is again, man, this is the quote You tiny, tiny little thing.

2:47:27 else, not suffer under the terrible weight of the resistance or feeling like a victim. when you think about it. No, you got paid for Fear Factor. You're out there choking on bug dicks and trying to make a banana hammock out of literal banana leaves for your dick. Some people get super sick on the show. Yeah. Yeah. That's all water like yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're just so accustomed to it. No big deal. It's just water.

2:50:03 You're going to love it. to do that anymore. You go out there Just throw it overboard. The fuck you are, man. Two or three trips, they cut them loose. Yeah. I know that because a friend of mine was working with a guy who, let's see if I remember this correctly. Ghost fishing. He was camping next to me on the deck of the ferry boat. We get to this town.

2:53:39 i walk out with him i'm a vegetarian but But anyway, first cast, he catches the salmon, big-ass salmon, brings it in, kills it with a rock and all that. And so he puts onions and shit inside and the foil and all that. and I see movement in this fish. Look at this. Probably would work. That guy's thinking. Yeah. know. What a great idea. Probably would work.

2:55:31 Got fired? Got you. Got me, man. Got you. Legs are broken. For a dude who's falling apart, No, I haven't seen the video. feet away from him, shooting at him as he's running, as he jumped out of his car. You can watch it. They tricked someone into doing that for them, right? But you can watch like a professional assassination go down here. over there

2:57:58 I don't see it You see what we're talking about? That's fucking insane. So he's staying there. intestinal bleeding jesus christ they were trying to burrow their way out yeah eat his bones from From a fish. So we know how we should feel. I want to say, have you guys seen that video of the cam girl who's like a worm shoots at Maybe I dreamed it. Oh, that's right.

3:00:38 Yeah, I don't know. So you're getting around. This is the question. Even the color of your dick would be very easy to discern. No. Seems like a worm. I mean, that wasn't the highest quality. It's like... The worm pulled its head back in. I know, right? And I was like, oh, someone's got a problem. Oh, shit, man. Rats? When they dissect the rat and you see what's living in that thing.

3:03:39 It's really good. and you just go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. and in New York they like beta rats They're like all things we were talking rats forward. They're like all things but mostly the same thing. Like, well, we'll take it. how to do it like rats can like they can Sure, because they're so small. A roach walks in the room, everybody freaks out and wants to fucking stomp it.

3:06:06 When you see any kind of rat, rats are no bueno, like to the core. They have a better publicist. but they do eat weird nutrition is holding on Well, you started it with the worm in the asshole, and it's been downhill from there. Look how quick he's devouring it. Quick. I I mean that thing is like it's like you holding on to a ham This is a ground squirrel. This is

3:08:17 told me that the biomass of these ground squirrels is bigger than anything else on the ranch. And they leave holes. And when he shot it, another one grabbed it and dragged it into the hole. Find out if ground nesting squirrels eat meat. Yeah. Jesus. There you go. So they're eating meat. ducks and songbirds. Songbirds. Mice. They just dart to that fucking hole so quick.

3:10:54 Have you seen this before? That's like Jack Russell terriers. This is the greatest thing that happens to these dogs is hunting The laughter of They're so happy, dude. They were tearing them apart. They eat them. why are you so fascinated with this part of nature like sometimes i gotta be careful No, he says nature's a... Yeah, it's just going to be awful.

3:13:19 When you see a jaguar kill a caiman and grab it in the back of its neck and bite into a fucking crocodile have all these weird little sort of distinctions and cultural ideas that we've attached to animal life Oh, but that's so crazy to think that's like if a murderer only kills one of your buddies and eats them, you'll be cool just wandering around that guy.

3:15:16 That's been very popular for a long time. the conclusion I'm not looking at the entire nature as a whole and making this distinction. The only reason why these predators can exist is because they have to be killing things all over the world. Sure. And actually, in terms of proportion, it's a minor perspective on it. looking at that i'm thinking how long do harbor seals live so i look it up online harbor seals

3:17:50 And we're depicting nature as this incredibly ruthless, horrible, bloody place. The moment is the reason why the shark can live. It is fascinating. And then you got the pelicans on top attacking from the top. I'm talking in proportion. Have you ever seen that? It's like catnip for jaguars or something. these psychedelic plants, when they were first discovered, they were trying to call, harming is the chemical, but they were trying to call it telepathy because they didn't

3:21:12 and have these trips with aren't there yeah you know what it's staring at it's like in brooklyn right now with a bunch of Yeah, if the right situation presents itself. have been into the moonies if the moonies found them, right? There are lots of different plants that they use, though. It is. I want to, like, get high, play with my synthesizers. for the pure hedonic joy of like experiencing an orgasm with this weird dumb thing this tube

3:24:08 Are you saying that sometimes you get high just because it feels good to be high? This was in the early days when it was sketchy. It was this cool black guy with dreadlocks, and he had one of those volcano vapor bags, Come on, man. That was not me. It's not like a recreational drug. Oh, yeah. You know what? I agree with you there. But I think that are legitimate,

3:26:23 communion, a spiritual practice, and also a medicine. psychological and emotional and spiritual, which makes me sound like a hippie. But what is happening when you're closing your eyes when you're doing DMT? Or is it a trick that's happening with chemicals in your eyeballs and your brain and neurochemistry? with god and then god gave you love and wisdom and then you came back down to earth into your body

3:28:50 Yeah. real that didn't happen and it's completely different than if you You roll these up and put them in clay jars in the caves of Qumran so that someone someday will know this and understand what you've been through. And that's why getting back to- Yeah, Portugal's got it nailed. oh God, that's what you guys are going to go after? That would be the best.

3:32:05 And that's not a ridiculous thing to say. He could have made tons of money doing other things. When they busted him, he's the guy who was the missile silo. The girl rad the guy out. And that's what they wanted to do. was there still is i hope i i don't know if there is but there are people who are manufacturing that you know will change the world? that it has lsd like property to it yeah yeah i mean that's the uh that's certainly one of the

3:36:18 You know, like before you do it, it's like you have this idea looking in, out out and then you're separated from all of your life He gives him like, you know, Owsley. So Ram Dass gets back to the United States. You got hoodwinked by a fucking Baba out in India. And he takes these pills, puts them in his mouth, comes out of the blanket his eyes are back in his head he's like and then he just goes back to

3:39:13 But he was just fucking with him. Like, this is definitely a thing, for sure. But you could be that thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was his – because their premise was this is something. Like this is definitely a thing for sure. And the way we look at the world is like in these pre-programmed trunks that's You've got every single possible variation You'd be overwhelmed by how insane it is.

3:41:30 They have metal tubes? You feel familiar with it, but you don't have context for it. gut choking it to death in the middle of the ocean. You're getting fucking. He's not-process too honey you're getting funny you're getting And then I'm thinking, I'm just a little Eddie of air And sometimes I think, yeah, that must be it. So it's the same world your father and grandfather and great-grandfather, everybody lived in the same world.

3:44:58 what the potential issues could be with AI, with advancing technology that has not been mapped out. before the internet went on AOL. feed. Yeah, man. that made you want to stare at your Well, they say that video games in some ways are good for the psyche, though. the um the uh the the concept of like a drug that makes you stare at your hands i think our thoughts

3:47:14 neurocomputer that your brain is. But I don't think it's too much different. I think both of we're talking about keys like keys that fit in the slots those keys just fit in there's the tree your body has expectations right your eyes are designed with an expectation It's actually physiologically. Make these easy. I think that's probably the best way to do it all the time.

3:49:53 You're here? Let's do it. Same. Ah, cool.