Joe Rogan Experience #1052 — Mick West Transcript

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0:00 4, 3, 2, 1... Yeah, that's my specialty. Chemtrails and Flat Earth. Dun, dun, dun. and stop these fires. which is called escaping the rabbit hole and it's about how people get into the rabbit hole and how and then they just get sucked in yeah and then they start looking at another video and another if you're watching one video on a particular subject.

3:32 I remember me and my friend Eddie were high as fuck and we're talking to my neighbor and there Where'd you get that watch? started appearing and it just appeared right before our eyes and we hadn't noticed it. That's the other thing. environmental disaster and the chemtrails are the only of the world is nigh. Like, you know, there's about to be this environmental disaster,

5:52 Otherwise, they'll make it even worse, but we're pretty much all gonna die either way an earthquake? Is it going to be a slow aging And that's the type of thing that leads to different types of thinking that you end up being a conspiracy theorist, It is very simple. And it's dependent upon the amount of moisture in the atmosphere, But you can do it yourself.

8:31 Yeah, and that's, when you say like a cloud, it's really exactly the same as a cloud. because there's a cloud here and right next to it there's no cloud. So it's exactly the same as invisible clouds. which is like a lot of people that are conspiratorially minded. I go, okay, but the lab said it's sludge. I go, what is sludge? He goes, well, I don't know what

11:16 you're trying to find a reason why you could, you know, some facts that you could throw at people, Yeah, and they're really motivated to actually find evidence. It's one of the pillars of the chemtrail thing. You could find that out. I'm saying they're dorks. It would look like a thin mist, essentially. benefit whatsoever. There's no scientific Well, that's an interesting thing because one of the reasons why contrails are interesting

14:45 They essentially act as an insulator or an escalator? They essentially act as an insulator. that stop the outgoing radiation. They don't have any cover. No one's spraying you. But what they're trying to do is use air traffic control and computers and weather forecasting to make it so the planes don't fly through the contrail-forming areas when they would make contrails at night

17:08 But the goal, obviously, is to combat climate change, global warming. if we had the entire world's airline fleets all in this program And they use satellites and they use planes sensing the environment when they're flying through it. effects of global climate change. One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric ...injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun's heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.

20:10 for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse dioxide reductions. of spraying things in the and various other things into the upper atmosphere, this he might he may do this the effects might be this. And he's talking about the possible geopolitical impacts of it, But there's no evidence of that actually happening.

22:55 But there are ways that do make sense, The problem with having a video like this is that this guy is admitting that they have That's a problem. People love those. There's actually lots of people who specialize in geoengineering. have the right conditions and a bunch of jets fly over and all of a sudden it's very hazy. Well, that's not, you misunderstand what happens.

25:36 stay? And they say, because I can see it. and I look up in each one of them the section on contrails of the people don't notice contrails until they hear about the chemtrail conspiracy theory a lot the waste products of burning coal in power stations, Now, the problem with it is they don't understand contrails. The reality is they're burning jet fuel.

28:49 It's pollution. tests for various metal particulates things to give people respiratory illness so that the government was engineering. If they really were engineering, spraying things to give people respiratory illness so that the hospital industry could profit, whatever the through dangerous areas where they have salmon rivers, they're going to build in Alaska right now through dangerous areas where they have salmon rivers.

30:23 Why don't I, Pebble and Bristol. something that people should be concerned about, but they're not. They don't get concerned about Yes, I agree. I think he was a part of it, but I think there Lee Harvey Oswald was in on it. I think he was a part of it, The other reason why I'm inclined to believe there's a conspiracy was the fact that they found that bullet on Connolly's gurney when they brought him into the hospital.

33:23 is not unbelievable. It's not unbelievable. That one is. That, to me, is not unbelievable. Right, but you've got to combine that with the fact that the bullet came out fairly pristine, that will show the actual path with him. From above, yeah. They've already done that. Yeah, they've Penn & Teller did that. Yeah, but some people have done it and they have found

34:57 something like that that doesn't have a lot of Yeah, but didn't it hit bone in Kennedy's body as well? the Bethesda Naval Hospital, versus what they had reported on the scene in Dallas. Yeah, someone said they enlarged the hole Yeah, there's this big thing about the CIA So the theory is that the term conspiracy theory came from that particular memo.

37:50 I didn't see that. so you can't ask him what he actually meant. Yeah, people say things. So people take that event and then, you know, since a lot of people did die, they think that this woman actually knew what was going to happen and she was trying to warn people. He was standing on the corner, and he had a stack of signs. That's what they do shout.

40:06 because like this guy's got a lot of fucking signs like one sign's not enough I go this is the guy Now, admittedly, the magic bullet is a bit strange, but I don't think it's out of the and it didn't hit any bone until it hit his wrist, then it would not have been compromised very much ballistically. um like a couple hundred yards. Like a couple hundred yards shooting at something the size of a person's head is easy what about jesse ventura trying to do the

42:34 and then you have to hand it off to someone dropping it. So the idea that down so it's perfectly stable. You squeeze off a shot, you use the binoculars, you find out where The idea that no one can do that in three shots, that's been disproven. did his show the reason why I did Joe Rogan questions everything is they wanted me to take If I find out that what I said was wrong, I'm interested in repeating that I was wrong as many times as I can to get it out to as many people as I can.

44:53 with Cuba. He's a fucking weird It's not proven. If you tell someone that you heard something in the bushes and then you run away, that person will say, I heard something in the bushes. And then other people will repeat it. It becomes the narrative and it just gets, it's really hard. Now, this is something that gets repeated Like when people say, Things are falling.

47:05 like a controlled demolition and it looks exactly like a controlled demolition however if you find fires. It was just series of diesel, likely fed by a series of diesel generators located in the lower floors, which is where most of the tanks with some diesel still in it. So, series of diesel, likely fed by a series the diesel had nothing to do with it.

48:36 Edward Currant. I only got to find a good spot of the video to show it. Yeah, it was pretty close. But the fact that all the windows were missing from the south side contributed a lot to that because you got collapsed and then the outside And some windows breaking further down. This fact that World Trade Center 7 looks like a controlled demolition is its core belief.

51:22 This is something paid for by architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth. that reinforces their initial idea instead of just look at the facts itself saying, oh, you look at the top of the penthouse collapsing, that's not indicative of a controlled demolition. That's indicative of the model that NIST described, which is a slow burn inside, extremely hot deterioration of all the internal structure. Everything starts to collapse inside, and then the outside collapses too.

52:23 you can kind of imagine there are explosions going all the way down because there's things that look like explosions damaging the surrounding buildings too much. So they've got this complex theory. People don't want that to be it And even like with the physics of it, Or some of them think that the tower would have been knocked over. So they don't understand how a plane made of aluminum, which is soft,

55:26 Wow. so and you wouldn't think you know you've seen you've seen ping pong paddles they're this That was a hole. I understand, but you're also dealing with the actual air. Yeah, but it's the... But it is the ping pong ball that does it. You can because it would slow down. I understand, but you're also dealing with the actual air. But the fact that it was blank didn't stop that air from blowing through.

57:20 Yeah. Like, you know, imagine like a beer barrel made out of steel or aluminum. And 200 tons hitting something at 500 miles an hour. It doesn't matter that it's, They don't want to look at anything that debunks or disproves. They just want confirmation of their initial idea that this is some big, grand conspiracy, that someone is in on it and it's happening right before our eyes.

59:21 Yeah, you have to. conspiracy theories really quickly. Yeah. And that's, that's kind of the brainwashing aspect You just get sucked in and then when it's finished, you're on kind of a dopamine high and you want to do more. I've always told people the dumbest one I ever believed in air so fast the naked eye couldn't see them, but they would catch them on video cameras.

1:01:40 And this guy came to one of my UFC Q&As once, and yet there are still loads and loads of people who believe in rods and orbs. Look how it looks. I think it's that and money. You know, if you're in the UFO business and then someone comes along and shuts down your engineers, he gets paid a salary of like $85,000 a year and he gets his expenses paid. Now that

1:04:05 What do you think of their take on it? who's like the expert on the nanothermite residue that was found. know more about nanothermite than this guy who's an expert in nanothermite so they've got all this This upper portion should have stopped on the way down and is using these cardboard Like how many and how good are the architects and engineers that are in architecture?

1:07:20 remember the exact figures, but it's around that, voted against this. There was a book by a guy from London, I think If you look at their position statements, When I saw the towers fall, it looked weird to everybody. I think maybe the Morgellons or Morgellons thing. Yeah. Lyme disease, when you catch Lyme disease, you're not necessarily catching. chronic Lyme he definitely has chronic Lyme and he thinks that what more

1:11:20 That's what he thinks. and he thinks there's neurotoxic qualities to whatever the pathogens that are in Lyme disease are. Dr. On this not my area of expertise nor mine It depends, I think, on the person. They said, nah, it's probably nothing. Right. like that, but it's based on the symptoms. You have elevated immune responses Yeah. They might self-diagnose as having chronic Lyme.

1:15:18 hundred years ago. I mean, I don't know where Cuban embassy thing with the sonic weapons. Yeah. uh and so it could have been like one guy waits over in the middle of the night, there's a cicada in his room he tells this story to someone normal normal life problems they're getting old or the you know the food sickness or they've moved They've talked to their doctors, and they've told them about the symptoms of the having... They've diagnosed people with brain damage, but it's a clinical diagnosis.

1:18:02 They're investigating it all these different people are investigating it it seems like there's enough evidence that they're concerned if everyone's reporting different things hmm a panel of Cuban scientists today declared U.S. diplomats here likely suffered a collective psychogenic disorder. Yeah, but see if there's any other articles that contradict this.

1:19:17 What are they using to find the... by embassy staff is entirely real, the Associated Press reports. Mike, we did nothing. so you're going to have to send six people back as well. Yeah. Oh, really? It's a weird sound, for sure. But I would think that something that could damage you would be a frequency that would be... Audible? All kinds of different, you know, just the irregular Morgellons, chronic fatigue, getting old type symptoms.

1:21:48 and it started again. Like if you work at the American embassy, you get harassed. They're just saying that, you know, and then they focus on something. From video games or something? go into loud concerts and listen to my... weapons like uh can you hear any like ringing in your ear or anything like that and then you go someone was talking about this once called allophronia, I believe. And that it's when

1:24:41 Have you ever been hypnotized? Basically just puts you in a very bizarre state of mind but you're aware of it the He hypnotizes her? hanging from his string. Is this bullshit of things in a way that will actually just kind of embed this idea in your brain without Yeah. Yeah, I think some of the he's agreed to do it, talk with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Scoop over there?

1:27:55 He's a bit of an anti-Semite as well, I think. Because the conspiracy theory goes back to, you know, the Rothschilds running the world. He's got a bunch of videos explaining his position on it. Isn't it about that? Eddie loves conspiracies, man. Tonight I should kick in. He's interesting because he knows so much lot of screaming. Might have to get you some earplugs here. Tinius would kick in.

1:29:36 like Mickelson-Morley and Aries failure and things like that. And I said, flat earth. It's 100% what it is. But that was when he found out about flat earth for me. It was the first year. Eddie goes in waves. they, they decided as a planetoid downgraded it. And that this group of beings called the Anunnaki created human beings by coming down here and

1:33:01 One of the guys you interviewed, Scott Stevens, Well, I don't disbelieve in aliens. That's interesting to me. What are the odds of us? Well, I don't know. In weird ways, people say, what is the probability of three planes falling from two, Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, to them, If there's people, I think that's actually a real problem. Indistinguishable too from people.

1:36:44 thousands or millions of times more and there's one robot that's creating things. it got wrong, and you'd tweak the algorithm. They've got things like now where you can take a scene in a video and you can turn night into day, a robot or a sentient AI could do 10,000 years worth of technological advancement in two weeks. First civilization. It's going to be fucked.

1:39:20 A lot of them, right? And the army is going to want robot soldiers. the oh my god so it sees the green tomatoes and it just knocks them out yeah yeah what the fuck So it's got this computer vision that's You won't be able to see him unless you have a strobe light. That's a real conspiracy. But they did, because they were a little freaked out. It probably wasn't particularly intelligent or anything.

1:42:02 What would that even look like? a genderless prototype of the future. We went into this in depth yesterday under the influence, It's not very practical, the enormous head. other animals that are born they're pretty pretty agile like right out of the box like a deer or a horse or something like that even primates like young primates have Yeah. That's a freaky one.

1:44:44 Just a mess in your brain. But what if you had a huge computer, like 100 iPhones? What if they figure out some sort of a fission way? Science fiction. he makes a thousand of himself and you know fucking puts them all over the world well it's and turn the other body into like a super athlete and then the the one that you're skydiving and Not just like creating, like talking things like posts on YouTube.

1:47:20 here's Google's new bot posting on the internet going, with it will be able to manipulate that person and control them and since it's a computer doing it you could have thousands decades there'll be people there'll be artificial intelligences that will be just as intelligent as you or me with a typewriter and they talk to We're saying think about someone creating an artificial version of him based on the hundreds of hours of his audio recordings. Yeah. Because he has so many podcasts, as do I.

1:50:14 Lots of source material. but she had all this video of him. Don't spoiler alert me. It's a good episode. It's in the new season. They could have something. He narrows his eyes when he's confused. Like, here's the thing. Let's say if, say, your father died, which is one of Ray Kurzweil's big things. This guy made literally a text. You little pussy. You're never going to amount to nothing. Oh, DadBot. Yeah, and if that's what your dad's like shut up faggot He does just as rude shit to you little pussy. You're never gonna amount to nothing. Oh dad bod

1:54:24 of nowhere and they'd be flown into him and he had created that guy right there created artificial intelligence know the robots are not going to be like humans they're going to be like silence it's going to be you know more than humans by your command robots are doing work they're not going to be like humans. They're going to be like Cylons. There's going to be more than humans.

1:55:17 Well, like, think of that tomato robot. This is the same guy that is in that Black Mirror episode, too. It was a really good movie. aware of what the United States is up to in terms of like what gets printed in the news. They don't need a big military or anything to do cyber warfare with AI. So it's something that you really wouldn't be able to see happening.

1:58:09 these closed groups because it's harder for people to like figure out what's going on if you're in a Yeah, it's going to be really hard having movie directors film everything and that would influence the way people thought about world But if you look at the HTC Vive now their virtual reality is pretty spectacular to a reasonable degree where it's quite hard sometimes

2:00:30 and you can do you know, Woman. They can have you outside murdering people, and they put that on the news. But occasionally they get things wrong and they make stories about him like the CNN Russia story where they had to fire those three. But you've got to be very careful because once something's out there, on the image was like black on one side and then held it at an angle and took

2:03:28 writing something in someone's yearbook yeah that was the the yearbook thing right was the There's so many people want that to be true, that it was forged. plausible to people who wanted to believe that she she forged it did she forge the date and did Originally, it seemed like she was saying that he'd written the whole thing. Oh, so how the fuck could she even remember?

2:05:48 She's talking about something 40 years ago. You absolutely remember what happened in something so inconsequential 10 years ago? That seems insane creative memories and how people's Sure. That's one of the things that I'm really hoping of your memories entirely accurate like uh that was a black mirror episode yes those motherfuckers It used to be that I could say, well, that's definite because I have this photo.

2:08:35 They could put you, put like fake memories in your brain I wouldn't even be able to touch it. Right. Like I remember the space shuttle thing because I was over at an ex-girlfriend's house See, some people, they see the replay Yeah. Yeah. So I remember that. I think I went to Taco Bell. This is weird. We're stuck here. How long does it take at least you have cars.

2:12:17 I don't know. What about, uh, I changed my tune. No. You think the earth is round, right? What about... Oh, he's out of his fucking mind. And also he gets a guaranteed payout. Yeah, when did he say that? i do not know i think he must he must like this this stuff he loves otherwise it stay Everyone is going to see that it's ridiculous. Right. At least he has to pay taxes.

2:14:51 on the table in front of you. It would take like three days to bring your own water. Wow. more relaxed than the other in terms of what it will allow like one of them now you've got to have It's dipshit. it's this big machine and it still takes all day to fill up the reservoir right so they're saying um when i talked to people that knew him from a carrier and some fighter jets were going after it and they couldn't find it and

2:18:38 a UFO took the image kind of degraded a bit so you can't reach out what it was He says our mission is to take what the science division gives us and we'll turn that science into flying craft. Yeah, that's kind of a real technology. Yeah, it's nonsense. That's gonna happen hasn't having people donated some something like two million dollars or some goofy

2:20:31 The numbers have changed frequently. that believe in this shit That's what kills me. while the dollar number was sort of staying the same. It's amazing, though, And, I was like, you know, You're an agent as honest as possible They don't. That's a likely cover story for a guy. who think that I'm really stupid and don't understand physics at all. things like that. Just physics

2:24:29 am i they're a really smart government agent or i'm just a stupid uh useful idiot well it's just an hour videoing myself doing it until i got some some representative videos of it it's just fun to And I was like, well, how come you can't see Mount Everest, motherfucker? Take that telescope, how architects and engineers from 9-11 actually know it's round if it looks how do they know it's flat if it looks round right so they've got like you know things are disappearing over the horizon as if it looks round because of this

2:27:30 them miles away. And that's as far as, like, the curve of the Earth, but to the naked eye, it's invisible. like an 83 times zoom, as Yeah, some of those get lines and stuff and he gets like 400,000 views. He lives in a van. Where he puts up something about how the moon is cooling things, And I kind of gave up at that point. Oh, you fucking idiots. I mean, it makes no sense.

2:30:44 You love it too, though. You love debunking it. That's the thing. It's like bit. You love it. They love it. You love it. You love debunking Yeah, you can look up the picture standing on like the south of south america someone in australia and they're both looking High-resolution photographs from the Himawari eight. Yeah, those are fake then they decided those are fake

2:32:47 And then they created this thing. Actually, not all run by government. a few days jesus now um yeah how the fuck do they do that little little jets oh yeah yeah you've there's nothing to push against. you get like an air hose and you point it in that direction and you're standing on ice And I go out and have a look. Yeah, weather balloons. The mind can allow you to go down.

2:36:11 But it's the thinking behind it that's the problem. If the earth was flat and there was an ice wall, The sun stays exactly the same size throughout the day. Yeah, it's just the horizon. What's that about? Optical illusion. What is it? Is it a perspective issue? Yeah, it's just the way your brain works. Yeah. What is the harvest moon? Isn't that that big old harvest moon, right? Yeah.

2:37:56 The really big one. It actually only gets about 8% bigger than its smallest. Most of the time it's going to be somewhere in between that You're a stand-up comedian, some like 9-11 crap if you wanted to, but. I'm tired of it all. That's the thing about it at I wish it wasn't an issue, you know, and it is. at all of this Flat Earth, but yet this one guy

2:40:37 goes back to the 1800s. but people have always if anybody wants to go have you finished it Stipe Miocic.