Joe Rogan Experience #1056 — Dr. Mark Gordon & Andrew Marr Transcript

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0:01 Three two we need like a digital counter Runs into the bathroom, throws up. He got it. It's basically like espresso with nitrogen in it. Andrew, I'm not used to this clean-shaven Andrew. a friend of mine died, we on the internet we'd all had this guy evan tanner who was a former ufc champion and we had decided that She thought I was somebody else. Oh, nice.

2:14 I trim the cheek areas because it'll creep up my nose. Out of nowhere? I mean, guys who have lived your line of work? Yeah. Like Rogue Warriors. uh you had to earn that right you know what i mean so that's part of it like hey i earned the I like the idea though that you had to earn it. telling me how to do it and so that goes all the way down to even like okay well what kind of boots

5:15 Andrew Marr, who is the founder of the Warrior Angels Foundation. And so that always led me to doing what I wanted to do in life. I had these balance issues where I couldn't walk in a straight line. and not knowing why and not being able to do anything about it. But all I know is this is so disastrous. So that's what we're going to do, you know, and then start producing just horrible effects on my family with that line of behavior.

8:52 And it got to the point where I was like, not only am I a detriment to myself and probably You're going to be on these medications, take a pen and a pad everywhere you go, And so she actually, our son had a genetic lymphatic malformation in his neck. And then Becky goes into labor. So he's up on like the fifth floor getting emergency surgery. high mortality rate. And I'm like laughing at him. Cause like, you know, I was drunk at the time.

12:02 of whiskey, and I popped the last pain pill I ever took and I shot down the whiskey. bed, and I mean, this is honest to God, true story. I said, I don't care how, Well, that's fine. And then I started getting objective about it. But it was leading toward that that we got some publicity out of it. wide reaching repercussions that doesn't just deal with me specifically. And so as I'm hearing

16:03 I was like, wait a minute. They were just throwing darts. And I have talked to so many people. I've been in contact with so many people that heard about you But let's break it down for people. totally changes the ability of electrons to and that leads them into jail or into incarceration. So anyway, the inflammation articles talking specifically about inflammation, creating all these things that we're trying to

20:35 They slept better. They talk about use of aspirin and ibuprofen in things like Alzheimer's disease, which is an inflammatory disease. I know I shared it with you in the past that if a football player has one Absolutely. Within three months, they're off all their medication. of statin drug that decreases the availability of My LDL is, and it should be, according to the present standards, less than 200.

24:21 of cardiovascular disease should be diving, getting lower. there's a group of inflammatory markers that we have, And I had cholesterol that was three times his. So after he had his open heart surgery and his the combination of the two seems to be a gigantic issue, whereas saturated fats on their own Makes it worse. So there's the inflammation response, and then there's also the issues with the pituitary gland and the hormonal deficiencies.

28:19 because you're taking different parts of the brain and they're all working in unison, on statin drugs and suffered all sorts of health consequences because of that and then realize, oh, what about cutting all the fucking sugar out of my diet? Yes. And that's what has me in frustrated state all the time is because the science It's incredibly frustrating.

30:34 Right? I mean, at that time, we had done some tests, and I knew that I was deficient in things. So he thought, people don't understand what you're saying. Because I like to make things up. It happened twice, Joe. I mean, it's not even in the gray area. if this is how life is going to continue and I continue to have this type of negative effect sudden i'm cool i'm calm i'm collected i'm not having any issues i'm like whoa i i don't feel

34:44 And so fast forward And now I'm excited to say, man, three years later, we've delivered it to over 200 people So almost everybody had at least a 50%, this is in their subjective analysis, improvement. That's on our website. It's now all in one location. They thought, they thought their world was black. So I sent a kit out, and we got the results back.

38:28 by going into sociology to try and help them to understand what he had gone through with us. And this has only been going on for a couple of years. that make you feel better about life. and you've got to correct them. You know, my daughter Allison is a naturopathic, like disease like lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, that the inflammation goes into the brain and can cause depression.

40:33 It's just the human body is so insanely complex go looking for these solutions i mean you got to go through every door and every channel and try to find out. And one of the stories that he was sharing And when we got to her and checked out her hormone levels, her hormone levels were off. And can we do it objectively or scientifically? Those things are like compounding interest over time are being like low level blast waves.

43:24 don't replenish or replace those hormones that are lost, you're going to have all the But we need to lay it out. with the term PTSD or PTSS, especially when there's a history of trauma, trauma to the body not being proactive. You're on the offensive. Like, this situation does not call for that type of response and then you look a SEAL or a Ranger or a Green Beret.

46:41 You want to have a safe world? You have to have the elite of the elite. let's get this going. up, anything else. Those people will And then it was like, well, it's such a hassle to take the medication at the prescribed times. People get in this rut and they memorize these emotions and they get in this negative fucking place, man, and they talk themselves right out of life.

49:15 your life. How do you get people that are in that mindset? And they send me an email after they've been off for maybe a month. for them to get better? Because there's got to be some people. Right. And I can push out this information to the best of my ability. And I'm going to talk to him tomorrow because he wants to know, I speak to wives that are estranged, husbands that are estranged when we take on a new veteran or patient,

52:35 But people have to understand that if they've had traumatic brain injury, you're getting medication start drinking sleep gets drinking. Sleep gets messed up. Nutrition gets messed up. Yeah, I was on your show Leading up to the hospital scene. And that's how I that was my identity, or at least I thought it was. that I want to create. I'm going back to that. And it was like, so there was like a will, you know,

55:47 i was just i was at a place in my life doctors no time no i was at a place in my life that i I see this kid, teenager, in the parking lot. him on the ground. And then I picked him up and I threw him into oncoming traffic. of my children are looking at me. And it was like, dear God, I just dropped the parking lot. I don't recommend it for anybody else.

58:35 So what we talk about, like refined sugars, refined carbohydrates, getting away from things that were packaged for me. So get them back to a homeostasis, a balance, a neuro permissive environment at Mark, as Mark Always remained physically active through the whole thing. No more double vision. 100% service-related disabled is what 33 what were they?

1:01:32 Matthew was here. Well, he flew down from Washington to come in. His tolerance must have just been off the charts. He'll need to go back on 17 medications, right? And it turns out that where Valium or benzodiazepines work on this thing called the GABA-A receptor, which is one of those relay stations, pregnenolone is what should be given instead of giving someone

1:03:52 That's crazy, man. And coming off the meds without withdrawals. athletes, football players, fighters? people involved. We see, we have patients who come in under our wellness program, they feel nothing. And then there's 15% that make up the moderate to severe where they're in a coma for periods of time. Listen, this guy couldn't walk. But he's made new connections.

1:07:21 It's crazy. kazoo or wazoo. What about the interpretation? That's also where your unconventional that 50. And some people hit 20 and say, geez, I feel better, that it doesn't apply to you and I. It applied to the people that were part of that study to set give you a shot what did you say uh you felt like for 60 hours cinderella yeah you felt like Totally.

1:11:22 I don't believe in, you know, everybody who comes to the office is not a bodybuilder, Correct. in 2014 on your show, the first one. the podcast has grown exponentially since then so it's much much the the So they'll go with Yeah, and that's how he does it and you have when they're appreciative absolutely what you do is beautiful right right our the corporation our

1:14:38 So again, we've subsidized the rate where we made it. It's unfortunate because there's a lot of people that really will work hard for something. past or the enjoyment and the love of life that he has now? And how can someone like me donate? Can you play that, Jamie? One, two, three. It's something you need to see. Correct. And then the top minds in science, in neuroendocrinology and neuroscience, neuropathology, are talking about traumatic brain injury and the protocol.

1:18:53 Here's all the science behind it. As many places as you can. Absolutely. through the different divisions, getting them on board, supporting us. The Navy SEAL Foundation And they start to think of it as cheating.'t like it. It disturbs them. So there's a lot of guys that they shy away. And that's a fact. But you're depressed fucking hormones, man? But to me, it would be take an objective analysis and just get a snapshot of where that's at.

1:22:14 What I'm trying to figure out is why would someone rather take a psychotropic medication than fixing what God has given our body to manufacture that because of trauma, because of genetics or whatever, Yeah. Yeah. and all the bullshit was having an effect You need gasoline. four flat tires. Choose one of them to fill up and drive. You're not going to be able to. The

1:25:03 I've just scratched the surface of understanding what's going on. Way better. There's that. I could slay that dragon and I could live life without it. But it wasn't. It was no, right now. But as of right now, that's not the case. Give that website address again. people who are in the process of getting their certification. Obsessed. I mean, we're taking action, but like for the right reasons and like opportunity just continues

1:29:23 Well, the reaction and the response has been incredible as far as what I've heard and what's That comes out next month if anybody's interested in that. that we need to get out there for these people? what you guys are both doing Get in on this. Donate.