Joe Rogan Experience #1064 — Eddie Huang & Jessica Rosenworcel Transcript

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0:00 five four three two one and we're live welcome aboard Jessica Rosen Wurzel did I do it you did Well, I think people are concerned because the future of the Internet is the future of everything. And over the long haul, that could really change the internet and the web as we know it. Ajit. Ajit Pai. And that's what the argument – I mean, Mark Cuban was arguing against it.

3:35 iHeartRadio, they own all the radio stations. And it really sterilized content. And they play the And that's why my first place to go is like, I'm going to come see Joe. This is a good question. now you've got this new gatekeeper, your broadband provider. just move government out of the way. in a competitive market, you'd pick up, you'd take your business somewhere else.

6:46 things and say, hey, we're going to leave it to the market and have competition. I think it's I mean, listen, competition is the best regulator we know, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're not saying that they would do that, but they could. Right. So they start Zulu. I think, though, the biggest harm is to entrepreneurship. And I'm like, all right, if there's no net neutrality and I'm the only person that can service Calabasas, California, Woodland Hills, California, well, I'm going to charge all the other streaming providers more money to use this.

10:34 Are there any plans in place for things that we should be concerned with? that the FCC just did. So there's momentum growing in Congress and later in the House. I also think we are going to have litigation. We've already got a few states laws as an example, because recently a lot of states passed legal marijuana laws, right? But decided to put pen to paper and introduce legislation. And I think that that momentum

14:13 It's already on to the next. We're still learning. No one knew what to do. Yeah, once we found out. That's a big question. voice and find my own audience and then people started to see whoa there are like weird children And it has no precedent in human culture. This is all changing. It's so critical and it's so unprecedented. they would like. I mean there's also a lot of hate and there's a lot of anger and there's a lot of – but I think with the bad, there's more good.

19:49 things like it has to be regulated. It has to be protected and it has to be guaranteed as a thing I think internet openness. If you're conservative or liberal, if you're a big business or a small business, you benefit from Internet openness. we're never touching this. How did this happen? Well, through a whole bunch of boring Washington What do you think is going on there? Well, first I I want to point out that those big companies, through their association,

23:02 The big companies can always find ways to build relationships and manage this kind of lack of neutrality online with their leverage that come from size. It's a right-left thing. right wing, there's this sort of conservative way of thinking that let the market decide. a lobby, the broadband companies get behind somebody with some control, they can push

25:24 Well, what's stunning about this administration is how Trump's administration is just going ham for business. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we have to balance that out. always feel like someone's going to fix it. And they'll just start throwing all the good stuff your way. Department of Environments. I have my doubts about it. People have to talk back to Washington.

28:40 Besides just calling state reps, senators, what else can people do? And the idea that in the end, just three of them voted to roll back this openness. Like if you gave people the option, you said, hey, do you think that five people should be able to decide whether or not 320 million plus, plus the rest of the world, really? Right. seeing its impact in Washington. There are more people showing up in the capital city for votes,

31:56 your other friends to go run and you can look at who is trying to start campaigns. Like I'm 35 now no no that's what i'm hearing here no i'm not running but my thing is is that you know i think Isn't that the problem, though? It's important, though. You could really clean up. You could really do it. I'm not running. You got a bigger platform than I do. I'm not interested. I just, I don't.

33:44 We disagree about certain things. was sort of nerdy. Yeah, that's pretty nerdy. You give people food and shelter, you're still leaving open ambition, It's going to eliminate the need for humans, cut out all the human error. And then it went on for weeks on Twitter. and their values aren't going to change I mean, all of this is a new thing in terms of human history.

37:02 about sleep yeah well you could get information anyway now insomnia listening to podcasts about sleep. Yeah, well, you could get information anyway now. And he looked at schools and the school schedule. they're just at such a disadvantage. like fostering the unearthing of that. And like, look, there's some hilarious stuff that happens Usually you find out, you know what?

38:49 though. Yes. Because this was a platform is mucking around with that is just crazy. Well, I definitely don't think they like the fact that along with some real icons from early days like Mitchell Baker from Mozilla, Yeah. going to go to school at 7 o'clock. how many people could have lived a life of misery, but got lucky somewhere along the That feels kind of ominous.

42:12 I have no desire to make furniture. Like look at this amazing desk. It so casually and quickly legitimizes it for you as something to think about, do, or pursue. It's metal. It's iron. Oh, wow. They make it with the iron that came made out of meteor. How hard is meteor? It's steel. It's metal. Well, I knew there's a guy named Steve Kramer that makes them, and he made one for Anthony Bourdain.

43:30 Damn. Well, there's nothing wrong with a cleaver. But I think that this new world of the internet in terms of like the ability to explore these communities and like you said, video. Yeah. The biggest lie people fall for is that they're bad at something or they're not valuable. I got fired as a landscaper. You know, I think it's really important, though though for successful people like yourself to tell their failure stories.

46:00 I feel like I wish I could Okay. Yeah, I feel like it's important for people to relate, right? with, it's like an Asian basketball league. So I'm actually like kind of tall, like I'm like a small And she's like, yo, why are you beefing with these kids? You know, like basketball sometimes brings out the worst in me. Fuck you, man. So I always want to go to sports.

49:19 And if you don't have that switch where you can be comfortable being uncomfortable because you've being uncomfortable. I don't believe i've done martial arts since i was a little kid but i think there's something that is inescapable It's not by my body. Yeah. i feel like i could do anything now and so now i keep sparring and i keep fighting because

52:19 It teaches me respect too because it's like you can get bodied anytime. Well, I grew up in New England in cold country. I think my girl is from Westport. So you've got to go take them to see some mountains, And plus it's not really a state. I grew up in Boston. You don't have a New England accent. I was embarrassed listening to my own accent. I can do it.

54:42 No, but I've been living in Washington for a little while. The metered talking. It's good. hold your thumb like that and do this thing? If you go back to Washington, you decide with your congressional campaign, it's all going to happen. You are I don't think you can call other countries shitholes. things and, like, consider them. they run up on me like yo you're on jre you're pretty left you're a little you're a little crazy

56:49 There's a weird thing about the listeners of this podcast if we don't start listening to each other. Like, i don't usually identify as left as people call me that but it's And you got to have an open mind. And so I stopped and thought about it all. and I think culturally is part of it. these resources and gather up all this influence when this this all fleeting. It's sand that slips between your

59:41 The vast majority of it. Like, you know, Klitschko, Anthony Joshua, I think greatest fighter like the last 20 years. Well, he's a different animal. Footwork, wow. You need actual competitors for there to be competition. you get, the information that you get from the internet, that is fuel for your mind. And whether But it wasn't like for restaurants, we didn't necessarily like

1:02:39 Because we had those little folded menus stuck in the kitchen drawer, right? Yeah. When we were in front Which is, look, It used to be that getting a car entailed your freedom. They may not be able to rent a car or have a car, but they can take an Uber and meet you up. not just be digital consumers but to be digital creators. The digital world should look as diverse as all of us.

1:05:28 You can listen to five podcasts on sleeping. And they spent time with this woman. that's not regulated is insane. It's like getting our roads taken away. And recognize it as the important resource that it is. it's just shifting things at this radical rate. Present company accepted. So write letters, make calls, be annoying annoying you have to be annoying run run run

1:08:36 I mean, we had millions of people write us at the FCC. And I worked there for Senator Rockefeller for a long time and for Senator Inouye before that. That being said. have yet to be explored. That's what I'm excited about. And we don't fully understand the consequences for our economy yet, but I think it's coming. Yeah. could make our economy more efficient and more powerful. And so that's what I'm interested in.

1:12:30 We haven't thought about that. Doesn't Oregon do that? But then the thought is, well, if they're so stupid and lazy they can't make their way to a voting booth, do we really want their opinion to be expressed? You're trying to work there from 9. That's a commitment. it online. And I think if you have a social security number, you should be able to vote.

1:14:35 where I'm pretty much the only Chinese guy voting. this discourages a lot of people that may have a minority opinion in their neighborhood. I think that violates people to be aware i would like people to know what they're voting about. But participation. If you could answer what your vote, if you understand it. which is, like, a lot of people voting

1:17:01 I think it's a real job and I think more people are aware of that now and all the different possibilities, We spend so much time talking about national elections. you didn't even know was up. San Gabriel Valley. Basic income. 30. You're going to get by. There's a way. There's going to be so many people that are out of work. I mean, isn't there a better way?

1:19:49 I mean, how many days a week do you do the podcast? This is barely a job. Yeah. I think, though, the economy is changing. They're like, yeah, man, not everybody can do that. Yeah. at times, like a lot of times, you know, if you're too comfortable, you become complacent, like That's the most rational thing you can do. He pulled a seven and I got screwed.

1:22:55 Yeah. like i always stay on 16 even if they're showing a They're listening. your twitter handle is at Make a ruckus online as well. I can't believe you leave comments. I really appreciate it alright