Joe Rogan Experience #1066 — Mel Gibson & Dr. Neil Riordan Transcript

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0:00 3, 2, 1. And we're live gentlemen, Dr. Neil Riordan. Am I saying that right? So what's your experience been and what's this calling that you have here? there, but they were able to say, oh, you got to leave me here, he'll be dead in 48 hours. And they did some, you know, orthodox medical procedures, all allowed in this country. You end up with an extra asshole or something.

2:29 Yeah, it was Dr. Paz, our medical doctor. and the doctor's asking him questions that i can't even think of so when we hang up i said now you And then we had, to his credit, then we had a very educated So I'm up for it. We asked him, is he He says, it's because I stay away from doctors and hospitals. Right now, there are clinical trials going on in the U.S., but it's not broadly available.

5:21 or we just call it MSC. It's a lot easier. And so anyway, that's how I But, you know, as I recall, when he got there, he was in a wheelchair and really wasn't basically the meat of the umbilical cord. So intravenous stem cells. where there is inflammation. So intravenously, they do a lot of things, but they can home to So the vast majority of what we treat are autoimmune diseases.

8:41 It was like he got a new lease of life. And other stuff improved that he would hate me to talk about. He's like, it was like I had lightning coming out of my fingers. I mean, he said it's one of the most incredible experiences he's ever had, the feeling of a regeneration of energy going throughout his body. And that's the number one reason. And then South Korea has approved umbilical cord for knee osteoarthritis only, so the cells have to be injected into the knee.

11:20 Looking for something. I have to ice it down for a day. Right, right. Yeah, I was 57, in each shoulder. Well, the big difference. You don't think they're going to be able to do that very much longer? gone after clinics and, you know, I think they've shut down three places just in the last couple of you know, amnion tissue injected into a joint. And I think that the biggest concern is the claims

15:01 isolating the stem cells out of it, and then injecting them in your bloodstream or even injecting them into a joint. And so our product is we were able to figure out which cells work, which umbilical cords give cells That's really saying something. And he came down in 2010 for the first treatment and we gave him He's out there in the field. because they just seem to work all the time.

17:57 And the advantage we have is that we've had all those cases. We do a lot of them. Wow. really impressed with what I was able to get done but the stuff that I wish I had Well, I think they just want to control it, and they want it all to go through their deal and their processes. found out about it and we went down there and uh we built our lab out we were actually functional

20:12 You like it? They use U.S. dollars? It looks like Miami now. I'd love to spend time there. Do you anticipate this moving back to the United States in any way, Please allow us to do it. And unless we do something a little bit differently That's the only thing that's approved. I think the model is a little bit antiquated for the cell products just because they are natural products.

24:23 So the Cures Act was supposed to address some of that, just for doing spine. And it does help a percentage of people. Doesn't help everybody. And we were talking before about not just not just the disc, but the muscles around the disc. So one of the things we do in Southlake and Dallas is we inject the disc but also inject those muscles along the side.

26:59 The tissue, the muscle around the back that protects the spine is just very weak. That picture you showed me of your back is fucking bananas. Well, there was that one. and then i had the shoulders twice and then i just had him drop it into my vein you know just run around what's that like it's pretty cool i mean you feel a little when you get the flu, the flu virus doesn't make you sick. It's your body's immune reaction to that.

28:53 You see these anti-rheumatics. rheumatoid arthritis, not adequately controlled. They gave them like the equivalent of what a That says to the immune system, hey, quit making TNF-alpha. We were both there. Terrible. talk about that for a minute. Does that sort of? Yeah, well, just in general, your body, from a 65-year-old who's relatively healthy, and they divide every 60 hours, you get 200 cells at

33:11 a 65-year-old diabetic without any juice on them. And that's mean they'd use the blood of the young mice and put it in the old mice. everything got better. And as far as side effect profiles, it was highly minimal. benefit. And we only did one treatment in this trial. physicist. He carried on working just so she could afford, just so she could have insurance to afford

36:44 We don't have a lupus protocol. Well, I wrote an article in 2007 about why these cells should be good for autism. All that's intertwined. with the severity of symptoms of autism. and they've made some benefits with that, which they believe is also connected to inflammation. They look at see if they have any heavy metals and that sort of thing. Heart failure, yeah.

40:17 It's actually the secretions of the cells. juice and the heart failure got better. So it's really the secretions of the cells stimulating Wow. But he got a viral disease or something else. know, 11 to 42 or something like that. But he wasn't the first case. The first case was a doctor done it. And we treated him and he went back and he had an ejection fraction, he had an echocardiogram

44:01 How is it these things work for so many things? a mystery to me why it isn't the case, And it actually helped greatly with an autoimmune disorder that she had. why? and get shot up. Duchenne's muscular dystrophy, you know, the cells don't But they only last for about four, five, six months. The embryonic stuff is full of weird anomalies and stuff, right?

47:22 embryonic stem cells, the biggest problem with them is they And these cells, you don't have to monkey with them. against the Bush administration's restriction of spending money on embryonic stem cell research. They're studying mesenchymal stem cells. And we paid as taxpayers in California for that, you know, because people were misinformed. Well, it can be. It's hard to say because everybody's bone marrow is just not as effective. Well, it can be.

50:36 do something for them in Dallas. If it's not orthopedic and you need systemic treatment for The only thing is you need a passport, and there's no visa required or anything like that. It's closer to New York, right? If they need any other information, any other, you know, x-rays or MRIs or whatever, they'll I just want to feel the intravenous stuff I want

52:33 Well, you know, I don't think for his neck, structurally, we weren't able to get the cells there. There's not even a thread left. I don't believe he did, no. If it was after two years, it was 50%. the number of MSCs reside in your spinal cord because we built this wonderful cage around it I do. is a commercial pilot Crashed the plane, yeah. and intrathecal, so into the spinal fluid.

56:35 Okay, we started treating him six months and three days after his accident. And, you know, I just had dinner with him the other night in Costa Rica. Jesus Christ. So he was 100% and then he fucked himself up again. I mean, he made zero progress. referenced in my book. Which book? You have two books here. Yeah. Well, it's referenced in both All right.

59:22 can get some treatment. He told me I could tell you everything. Frankly, I don't know. know, the limited amount of stem cell treatments that I've gotten. Wow. and stem cell therapy, Get healthy.