Joe Rogan Experience #1074 — Cameron Hanes Transcript

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0:00 Usually I have it, but it goes away after a month or so. I've had it for like four months, pretty solid. I don't want to have poor accuracy. You have a problem. but you were saying before that when you were 20 you're 50 now when you were 20 you could never do Yeah, yeah, just wanted to lift a little bit, Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'd probably be so sore I couldn't do anything for a week.

2:40 Probably hunting. There's a lot going on there. I don't have injuries. That's very disappointing. And she was saying it ruins your gut biome and that it actually causes inflammation. So I'm like, well, I better stop that. You know, they're trying to outlaw that stuff. And I tried it. Positive. So that's, I mean, if it's. No, it's, but I think that's helped.

6:01 So how do you not get like joint pain? But I don't want people to... uh at least three or four times a week just just make sure I did them all the time and then on top like i you know even though i want to do i i want to maybe every once in a while try a deadlift. And then it's, you know know i feel it down my leg I've seen a lot of things online. The problem is that's like having mostly non-poisonous food.

8:43 I think the interactions that I have online that are negative, I'll have to do something. Which one? Yeah, I know. Yeah. And then maybe if we're lucky, we'll see a bear get a hold of a fawn. Or Colorado, rather. Oh, it's crazy, right? And I put that up because I had seen a couple celebrities, and I don't even know who the hell they are, movie stars, I think, or something.

11:33 That's what they do. Yeah. I was at home the other Yeah. But you got to keep an eye on those things, folks. I saw a pack on Prince of Wales Island one time. And it's hard not to look at a wolf and not think They needed to get the wolf snarling and so they brought some It wasn't necessarily snarling at me or growling at me, but it was there. Yeah, and I think, think you know we were talking

15:53 Because he's running up and back and up and back and up and back. me yeah animals you know uh animals pretty much have the advantage over us on everything other sitting in a chair all day it makes you soft but then you figure out how to make a gun yeah and You go to Alaska. something that these people that have that because see the problem with like celebrities

18:20 She's kind of a hippie, right? Yeah. Funny how things work out? You know, you don't get it. that connection and you get that empowerment um so i i think we are kind of turning the tide a ate meat again. and realizing this But anyway, so those people have come in and listened to these podcasts like this the Joe Rogan podcast. in the world. There was

22:24 There was none. One, because There's things that women sweat when it comes to houses that dudes just don't down to him the whole deal and then um that alone just having people have told me, uh, you wouldn't be anything without Joe Rogan. That's some comments that I've got. I wouldn't be the me that I am now. Definitely. Yep, I hear you. So I was like putting in there Joe Rogan influence or Joe Rogan effect or whatever.

26:13 other than that. You say you just do that. Yeah. And then the president's calling everybody fake news. I totally understand. Yeah, I'm not being a meathead. with things that you don't have a problem with eating, like They don't know what the fuck is going on. Yeah. I mean, that's not – I don't know. Yeah. I think it shores up people's aggression towards vegans.

29:54 I mean, there's a lot of people that go out and eat burgers because of that. Where there's fucking wolves and grizzly bears everywhere. Yeah. You can kill 100 wolves a day if you can. Scary, freaky shit. every time you guys He said to this lady, I don't know. Yeah, you know, BC, they're just outlawed grizzly hunting up there I know. I mean, we need to educate people.

32:52 and they know what grizzly are doing and how many there are. Oh, it's so pretty. I don't want to And I want you to sit there for a day. The animals are running around looking to get the fuck away from things that are trying to eat them. And that's what grizzlies do. Grizzlies are going to kill. So how often that's happening. Man's always been in the equation as far as hunting.

35:22 steaks and freezing them and there was not a a lot of like large scale agriculture back then either. They wiped out most of the deer, most of the elk, most of the antelope until guys like And we've got to make sure we protect these animal populations because they got down to some incredibly low number of elk at the turn of the century, right? which is real weird like like a whitetail deer is a weird animal yeah like they're kind of a farm

37:46 The number's a fuckload. I heard that guy was a cunt. He only took prime hides and large antlers and left the meat to rot. Not only is it illegal to not take the meat, you have to take the neck meat in Colorado. And so people say, well, are you one of those trophy hunters? coolers of prime ribeyes just sitting there you'd be like what the fuck is this here for like what's

40:08 So when we go hunting, and I can speak for myself. You know how I'm done now in the garbage type thing? but it's worth, but just as a rule, the lines of it's not it's not healthy to hide from the fact that there's there's death involved But I'll eat the shit out of some chicken. And it's filled with chickens that are just stuffed into these rows. On top of each other, right?

42:59 too easy to get food i really think it's too easy to get food that's why we're such fatos that's a own mind, for your own It might be higher than that. Yeah. Okay, I got it. And British vegetarians. I thought I did. No hunting. Is that where they threw the plates at all? They do. red on the other yeah you tap out yeah we go to town nobody can fuck with ari shafir when it comes

46:09 Joey Diaz is done. He's like, I'm still on green. Oh, they know how to do it. Like that kind of stuff in people's mind. Like you're going to that goddamn steakhouse. um to be leaders and and how we share that you know because i see things that i wish weren't because I think there's things to be learned from a lot of experiences. You look slim. That was the fattest I've ever been.

49:03 hours in a day. I eat about every Chris Bell and Mark Bell, Yeah. Yeah, look at him. Jacked. Yeah. Three brothers, and one of them died. Powerful documentary. But it's a giant problem in this country. dealing with i just know that you know social media can be used it can be irritating sometimes He was going to be the starting quarterback on the football team, 21 years old,

52:24 But that was in the seen a lot of shit that you've gone through your ups and downs and when you hit it down you go well I couldn't imagine. You don't know jack shit. and you just know, And then everything's gonna be okay. Yeah, I was hey you know cause I've been in certain groups where even my friends aren't positive. And I wish I could respond to everybody who sends me a message and just say,

55:14 Sure. And so I just know what it's like to be in a small town and to not i'm not saying i a shitty job or they might be alone and they're here with us they're here hanging out and they and you hate on people that are whatever, wealthy, good-looking, whatever. This guy's out there eating healthy, doing good things. I mean. blood with me will be my brother. And it's like, it's not, that's probably derived from war. And

58:54 Yeah. We already ran five miles. They just can't. Right, right. something like three days like that you're in low points at different times you know what i mean right and so it's really hard um it's really hard to win each of those battles because at one time There's no guarantee. It's in June, so I haven't really prepared for it enough. 15 miles so bad um i don't know there's sometimes when you do you ever go on a run and your legs

1:02:30 So me and my brother Taylor, we were thinking, well, in the 70s would win the race. know i didn't know at that time she was the american record holder for the 100 um 20 or the That's what's crazy. I've seen a lot of comments about that. But it's also like I was asking her about the nutritional content of her food. But I would just think for just the cells of your body body you would need more nutrients i mean who knows she's

1:05:32 And they're like, you know, she's just like with a kind of a baggy shirt and baggy shorts and then just crushing people. She won that 238-mile race by 22 miles? and she was 22 miles nachos wow right there so i filmed it and i'm like i tagged my brother taylor and i'm like hey can we knock I like that she's would just say, yeah, I'll do that. And are there established trails that you guys could run over all those peaks?

1:08:15 right you know so with with the rocks up there you don't know what's gonna happen you gotta be it's part of it it's fascinating to me that that is the appeal of sheep hunting to a lot of people You know, I think with the bow, definitely a tough animal. it's fascinating to me how people get addicted to incredibly difficult things they do it they Right.

1:11:16 running these fucking hills it just changes your lung capacity yeah your lungs just expand and And so now when I go crazy on the heavy bag, and it does so much for your legs too. and it's, a world champion. And one of the things that he's saying is you got to run stairs. He's like running Well, he tried to take stipe out in the first Like Francis had never had a bad moment.

1:13:43 He's just so scary. But he's not like, you know, he's not Edson Barbosa or someone who could put you to sleep with one kick. If he could get it together. I forget the gentleman's name. diminish his endurance and his ability, I just don't know how I'm sure he worked hard. I'm absolutely sure but I don't know how hard he was pushed You watch the training camps with Daniel Cormier and Luke Rockhold and Cain Velasquez, some of the footage, there's a reason why those guys are so goddamn good

1:16:28 Yeah, that'd be amazing. They go a little hard. They know what the fire feels like. with that yeah one camp in san jose has some of the best fighters that have ever done the sport I was still, to this day, when Kane was in his prime, And the second round would come around. And you're just like, man, you feel bad for, well, that, be a warrior that's what he said that was his his take on it oh Oh, man. I mean. She was getting beat up. Not just beat up.

1:18:55 She landed one. No. more about the power you know you just don't see women um you know coming look at the strikes 95 home she went toe-to-toe with uh amanda nunez she went toe-to-toe with some of the best kickboxers It's hard, you know, and it's hard for me calling fights because when i'm calling them i'm just looking and then defense. Unless it's like Valentina Shevchenko's fight, where you just go like, what the fuck?

1:22:05 Yeah. What kind of shit judge are you? I mean, literally one of the very best strikers on the planet Earth, male or female. Well, Valentina fought Ioannou and Jacek in Muay Thai. I'm excited for that Rose. That's a good camp then, just having those two changes at all. I put up that little clip. like in this zone yeah where you want to put her fist on her nose and she didn't flinch that was

1:24:30 oh my God, you know. Amazing. But for her to win by KO like that, I was like, holy shit. was just pure excitement and appreciation and joy you know he's just having a good time does Who was that? Yes. a long time ago he was one of the first guys to introduce it to mma but um he had some success Thompson, Wonderboy. johnny hendrix in the gut with a sidekick and then johnny hendrix is still there so he roundhouse

1:28:07 Like he moves backwards from the weight. And so these techniques, like he's exceptionally good at those karate techniques. And then the big one now is that low leg kick. And that's how he lost the belt. Jeremy Stevens cracked him real early in the first round with that low leg kick. He had a giant hematoma it was fucking I didn't know there was one.

1:30:24 Yeah. People are like, oh, it's because you're not good at it. Where's it at? I love that town. I mean, I know it's weird. Yeah, just be nice. We're going to do a podcast when we get to 500,000. So we got 1,000 today. so we just need a few more days You can argue that both ways. But I'm just kind of using that as an excuse to talk about North America.

1:34:36 elephants are a whole different category but who's going to go want to shoot a gazelle well if you And I'm like, was that just a poorly worded tweet? what they did was they created a lot of these game preserves where they had these animals and they had a financial interest in keeping these animals And this was a self-imposed tax that sportsmen put on the purchase of these goods so that

1:37:25 is you know we say we care about it we we pay for it we we put money there to help conservation and You just can't bring them home, which essentially stops the hunting. And so that's what this, this council is about to try to make a good decision on how best Yeah. No. So the habitat just gets hammered. I mean, you know what a national monument or a national park here, the most popular places, you know what those look like.

1:40:20 you think of like in the bush of africa if if a farmer there has a crop and there's elephants getting in there, thrashing his crop, the elephant has no value to him. And that's what happens They're racist against certain animals. Okay. And with regard to lions, you know, so if lions are coming in and killing the goats or whatever, say in Tanzania, that they're raising, they're just going to put, they'll be a dead goat.

1:41:48 Oh, I think so, yeah. instead, there's no money, and then they actually have to hire someone to go and do that job. So that's still going to happen. Some of them. But if they were over here, you know, if a bear kills a moose, are you upset? was a thousand dollars a day to pay for guys to come into it to control keep the poachers out of And I've read this article, this ridiculous article that said that that's not true, that

1:44:46 You know, so that seemed a little weird. No, I know. He showed some reverence there, which I liked. Yeah. are tearing it apart it's crazy i didn't see it but it's it's weird because the these lions they're never wild like they're feeding them You can't do that in Montana. But, yeah, I mean, as far as so you're trying to define what is fair chase. Like, where am I?

1:48:44 You're not hunting anymore the population, viable. Yep. But anyway, when Corey went over there, and Corey's done the podcast as well. See who knows more shit. And he said the reason why the bidding didn't get higher was because there was so much pressure on people to do it but he explained uh And this is an endangered animal. And people would like it if that wasn't the case.

1:51:39 Yeah. Well, do you remember in the trophy movie, they could care less what elephant that guy killed, but they didn't like that it was small. And it's like, you know, we're the social justice warriors for the world. I know I read that one. No. Yeah. is not better off in the zoo. But they're so confident in giraffe behavior that they let babies feed them.

1:54:42 another day with no lions. they're good to go. Even zebras. warthog people don't even know how many there are they don't care they care less no this is that's a thing that's the thing with people bears just seem dog-like oh they're portrayed as being People keep sending me videos of this guy. This bear is my friend. It's a dope bear. you get an understanding of it from you know in front of your laptop in vancouver you just you

1:57:38 I don't know who you're listening to. It's still hard to listen and think, okay, so what's going on? whole thing is like, I kind of look at it as if I got somebody online giving me advice But I don't know how else to do it. And so that's what I did, you know, I read a few other things about him. But to me, personally, it seemed, would listen um seemed like somebody who if we were

2:00:15 have who you're talking to i understand that but it sounds it sounds good i mean it gave me a better because everybody, like you said, there's pressure from different places. But when I think of a But lately, the last couple of days, there's been a massive decline in the stock market. down that rabbit hole i'd be stuck studying the stock market for weeks upon weeks and i just don't

2:02:38 Yeah. And now it's really gone south. Yeah. we could use something on the positive side. No, that's not about the international. videos of elk in evergreen oh i know yeah wander right through the town and they're huge. Yeah. People pulled over just checking them out and they're screaming and rutting. I didn't know that. learn figure that shit out isn't it interesting they learn quick well that's one of the things

2:06:09 is the greater yellowstone ecosystem it's like it's all all protected right so maybe they needed And I'm like, I said, what kind of bow? God, I can't even. Maybe from a company would be an issue. have lobbyists that are on staff they're trying to get cash and work in those special interest have a pretty good pulse on what's important to sportsmen and hunters here in North America.

2:08:51 Yeah, he wants to do the podcast. no you got a golden toilet bowl talking to you i said it seems weird to say but seem like a normal guy, which your dad's a billionaire. Total normal. He probably takes over when the guy retires. Isn't that interesting? Totally. He's a piece of shit. I've seen Obama give very good speeches. intellect and the way he carries himself and i think that that's good for the country you know

2:12:50 protecting our our interests and serving the public he was highlighting the quote bad cops i you didn't build that. I would have said, Here's your opportunity. But we all have to be aware. Taking credit away from people who worked their ass off. I like it seems like the best, like even back in, you know, when our country was founded, those weren't politicians.

2:15:02 Even in the Viking world, there was bad leaders. Out of context. Okay, so what is the actual quote? Okay, here it is. context somebody else made that happen yeah not not somebody else we all chipped in did somebody And that's exactly right. I'm not saying that at all. you gotta act like the beast now you got the role yeah you gotta act like the beast like right why

2:17:53 Yeah. He's been a leader. Well, there's a lot of that. They like to say, well, no, the politicians are supposed to control the military, and redneck right and that's how i see it but i understand there is i mean well you need a If they can get there, they can get here. take over my house. He's a nice guy. who's been there. that's a good sign yeah that's good and i yeah i talked to tim at shot show and he you know i

2:21:23 But this is the world we live in right now. Yeah. manage it the best we can yeah protect us protect people here yeah never experienced it and i think once you experience it and once you've been to these civilization in the western world and yeah you know i mean you look at parts of the middle east And these women are brave as hell, man, and they're out there just saying, fuck this,

2:23:35 america yeah america might be fucked in some ways and there's we definitely have issues but There's more. And so, you know, in here, it's not like that. Yeah. What do you support, imperialism? Woo! know bow hunting is hard bow hunting on film is even harder yeah and so it's even harder. And so we do the best we can to tell the story. Because you look at it like it's one of the things that I told a friend when we were watching a hunting show before.

2:27:04 We just go out there seven days. Well, that's most hunting. Most hunting. Yeah. Like I've done two different shows with them. We weren't successful. Yeah. We just go out there seven days. Well, that's most hunting. Most hunting. Yeah. So when you boil all that down to 22 minutes with commercials, it just looks like inevitably you're going to get to about 18 minutes in. Someone's going to shoot something. Yay. They got it. It seems like they're shooting things that are definitely going to be there, but that's not the case. No, there's no guarantee, especially with the bow.

2:27:44 We've been talking for quite a while today. a lot of hunting videos i watch a lot of videos on science i watch a lot of shit i watch hours We did have to keep hammering. Keep hammering has been around a little while. Well, that's your sense of humor that I think most people are not aware of. green tree john dudley cam haynes me ben o'Brien, make it happen. Sell it.

2:29:35 No, I think. Do you watch those Hushin guys on YouTube? That's another group of guys. I agree, too. And the ones who don't, Well, if you want to watch videos about babies chewing bubble gum or some stupid shit like that, yeah. incredibly misunderstood yeah and i think it's a noble pursuit and i think it's also it's one of the more intriguing things and more interesting things i've ever done in my life well i know and

2:32:18 Right. Exactly. we saying oh yeah with the with the um chicken tied to the dog neck. was one of the funniest things you said but there was one other one I wish I could remember the other one. Many times. So that's where the timing comes in exactly well it's like those hunting camps are so much fun like you at the end of the day you and me and ben sitting around laughing cracking jokes

2:34:51 they could make more money by running cattle on it. But the goal is to make money but also enhance the habitat, and hunting is the best way to do that. Cameron R. Haynes on Instagram. Instagram's got it beat.