Joe Rogan Experience #1076 — Phil Demers Transcript

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0:00 Nice. Legit. I don't sit on wallets. I don't play with wallets. Fuck no. Bang against your deck. No. so get on your Twitters, get on your this, get on your that. You were taking care of this walrus, and it became like a big cause everything else. I was the guy jumping off the killer whales, doing the flips off dolphins, everything else. marine land, they use an ozone generator, so they use ozone in conjunction

2:20 effects. I'm talking about a little bit of chlorine. So this was There was like some serious issues, health and things started getting real bad. And of her brain circuitry opens i imprint on her so my smell everything i look like or you know because Well, of drawing blood wrestling her down and, and Smooshy come over. and that's when it happened. She was following me.

4:25 with these two hands right here, If it's going to happen, yeah. But it does happen when people raise bears Oh, she's protective of me. But she's hidden. You can't get her to do anything. So what's going on with you and them now? Cause there's been a series of into the Niagara River and then watch her go over the falls. I have no interest in that. Because, you know, in lawsuits, you've got to reveal a lot of information in a lawsuit.

7:00 Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything. But what does that mean? Because they're using the system as a means to simply abuse me. Canada's last remaining they I don't know, I don't know if that works. lines yeah they got charged with 11 counts of animal cruelty a little over a Okay. sort of walk in and the lawyers are looking at us like, And the OSPCA

9:54 What is the crown? Oh sorry I know crown land is public land. Number one, you have to have a reasonable chance of conviction. Okay. Marine land turns around and sues the OSPCA for $21 million claiming that it and that I half exist, half don't. the land of which the uh niagara falls humane society is is built on which is where the ospca Yeah, you sort of get red-pilled.

12:45 pretty fast for me once i'd realized the depth of which marine land was sort of in with all levels And so Marineland claimed to have left them, That's for sure. i mean before you came on or when you came on it was before blackfish had been released and then once people saw what actually happens to these super intelligent animals when which killer whales only do in captivity.

14:52 I mean, I was a stubborn dude. Did she throw you with her tail? And then you just arc up and then she just takes it to the moon and she's screaming underwater. I mean, that's the whole basis of being a trainer is to get to know the animals, Her eyes were a little big, big. I go to jump Snapped at you, like tried to bite you? Otherwise I wouldn't be here today.

16:52 She's now inverted upside down, and she's swimming, and she's circling the pool. want to know so i'm saying why would that happen i think that it if she doesn't want you out of that pool. It's, I remember this big wake happen. Thank you for like being nice to me. I'm like, oh, dude. So they don't have killer whale shows there anymore? Tons of medication.

19:05 You just roll them over. And they let you? Yeah. Don't do that. Fuck. A lot of the animals are, in fact, on Valium, Yeah, Marineland accused me of stealing Valium, What? And Marineland's owner called me back in specifically Buzzfeed. I'm telling you. Icaica. In captivity, right? They wanted that killer whale back, and I don't blame them. We've got a, or Marine Land had a large pool.

22:07 Anyone tells him what to do. You're not getting anyone out of that killer So SeaWorld's like, get him the fuck out. It'd be done. It was in, what's that movie? Just reaches up, bites him, rips his throat open. Yes, semi-pro. Just got tired of people. appetite stimulant. If you don't have a bucket of food, forget land marine land is notorious for having like we we have, I say we, over 50,

25:24 Nonetheless, There's a grate But it means I mean they get carved up we used to call it She was, you know, she's probably a 3,000-pound whale, 2,000-pound whale or something. go ask about peanut and go take a look at her, lots of recovery, I wouldn't say so. if it doesn't affect them personally. that we know of She mimics human voice, Yesterday, yeah

28:43 But they did this, I believe anyways, that they're going to, saving the world all the time that Marineland has managed to get this guy, this senator, And again, it's all lobbying. of wild ones, and then once They're stealing whales. They've had, they've, they've done all the right moves a businessman would do if he wants to keep a thriving business without too many hands sort of keeping them from doing anything.

31:14 And their auditory system is so complex. they're like a water people it's weird if you If you put yourself in the mindset of looking at an animal but they evolved to be incredibly social, its entire life, Okay. He was just, he was rocked. there's communication yeah so it's it's as awful as it gets but god damn put the ignorance aside It's like, well, we're so nice to our Killer Whales.

33:58 a couple trees and some shit. Like, alright, new show. But in Florida, so again, SeaWorld makes the promise, SeaWorld is trying to defeat a bill. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ. booming industry. wants to keep doing that. The fact that SeaWorld is trying to keep doing that in Florida and that in Canada, and they're going to build Because you can't keep the animal in something

37:18 But like, just imagine around and you're like Jesus Christ and what do you do well you get the sling together first off in a ticket booth or some shit your jaw's on the floor. So imagine there's like a short wall, something that, you know, they can look over. I'm hearing the crowd. So what we did was I said, to keep them in the pool. Do you, Let's go.

39:43 If they don't want to, And we had her in a sling hovering over the know, stuck in the, in the sling. But, and then you've got a crane atop so now you've got this thing So that was sort of a wake up call. especially at a place like Marine land, Attendance is abysmal over there. Falls, which is where, which is where Marineland going on. Tourists, it's a little more difficult,

41:34 it's that bad, but to be fair, there's no investors at Marineland. I wouldn't be Wow. Beluga whales are huge. That's insane. You'd be, it pickpocketing you. I mean, they are just, and they're brats, and I love brats. I mean, they just are bratty animals. They're having smart. You turn your back and they're pickpocketing you. So it's always a mental game, right?

43:27 like maybe a maybe a hint more dumb dumb than than the next one right but you know they're So seal sea lions. I couldn't say for sure in my experience that that was the case. But we don't know anything that they're saying, right? I guess maybe that's the same thing about how monkeys have differentiated the sound that they make if there is a tiger versus a sound they make if there's an eagle

45:54 know for a fact that these monkeys know what they're talking about and monkeys even play jokes Well, you mean monkeys. Dolphin brains are way bigger than ours. Yeah. but he did, you know, We got to go get a piece of the brain we missed And you can just do that in the yard. And what, like how many different things you That's where the animal cruelty charges stem from was actually,

48:20 It's coming, man. So there's a big hole, for instance. a bison and then feed burgers and make Now, why did they kill deer back there? So at night, what would happen is, you know, So would he do it for a goof or would he do it of some of the uglier, sort of less healthy beautiful little Labrador dogs went running into the up and down the running He just pulls out a shotgun, kills one.

50:49 I was there when the vet got the phone call. Puppies, dude. They're gone. yard, right? How many acres thing. He owns half of Niagara Falls. I got to watch where the hell I step because at any given fix that, because that's some horse shit right there, man. They were saying they're bringing all this business because people are now going to hotels, That's what it was?

53:23 So no one wants to speak out against that. They sued me on Valentine's Day of 2013, yeah. They don't want me to open my mouth about anything, there. And so in April, so the last time I was here two years ago, I solicited some help, resources, It took, I mean, we got the order only just last April to examine him. They're gonna have to settle and so how that ends with me. I don't know I'm not looking for money I could give a shit about trying to get rich in this thing. Are you trying to sue them for money though?

55:57 predicated on you would have to shut your If marine lands owners missed a couple examinations now how many until I can go in and actually file a motion to have the entire And so that doesn't affect mine, unfortunately, because we actually fought to get a case management was a lot more naive, but all of the wins indemnity. He gets $3,500 back Oh I have a public GoFundMe of course

58:14 to, it's pretty, it's good. These kids And that's how I know that this is powerful. And it's funny because the Ryerson students And then they sort of got back and said, you know, Dude, I imagine it's a half a decade And not just that. They're sending goons to my house. house i mean they sent the police to my house i mean it it really is a drone over it either opportunity for million view youtube hits yeah don't do it don't do that

1:01:25 then rosie o'donnell tweets it and she's as left as it gets and so i'm looking at this yeah yeah I'm like, dude, and you're like, bro, enjoy. She's just sending me messages like, dude, like it's really powerful. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, you know, I've done documentaries. you know, Let's, And I'm just like, sooner than later. But that was, that was the intention of going to New York. And, uh,

1:03:47 I think also people get involved with you and hear the stories and then they get scared of being sued themselves. 2013, 2014, 2015, media's mine. people start going, well, what can I do? I count that it's five years. and the fact that there's so many people involved helping. It feels dark. You know, it feels like a total violation of my life. but it's,

1:05:47 to sue lawyers I mean you want to talk about gumming up a system it's over at So I speak out against what's happening at Marineland. She took out the retro clause, some punitive damages like crazy saying things like be the hero of your fucking movie or whatever that quote was. And I did. And so I get the idea. best idea I'd ever had. Eugene. So it's called The Eugene.

1:08:22 that's a challenge and you gotta wake up and rise to it, right? Dude, I lost a lot of weight. Hopefully my run lasts for a while, but it helps me. It's just right for me. I'm going to have a hand in this. What makes you so hopeful? If it's in Canada, and all the exportation then you've got a place where they have a sense, I can't say the square footage.

1:10:41 Yeah, no, absolutely. There's something about jumping out. Now, are they going to free them and then release fish in there for them to eat? for the first whale sanctuary project, Seaside Sanctuary. And they fly under the radar because no one wants to talk about them, right? I mean, I don't know how deep necessarily, but. So that is the way to do it, right? Because I've always said when you go to a place like SeaWorld or whatever

1:13:41 I hope they do that. I was in Malibu real early in the morning. Yeah, they're here right now. And a few of them together and i pulled difference between seeing a cow in a pen versus a buffalo in the wild you know just this is where in a half hour watching them. No, I'm not alone. Because they killous idea that hunters hate animals no they love wild

1:15:48 The future is bright. China? They just don't get it over there? They just don't know? They have a different culture? Always does. as a race, as a civilization, it's just the wrong thing to do. And one day it will be looked upon Enjoy your life. Bye. Thank you.