Joe Rogan Experience #1085 — Kyle Kulinski Transcript

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0:00 Boom and we're live. Hello Kyle. Hello Joe Rogan. You look very good there in a suit. And so I had to have something made, so now I've been wearing it when I go on special dates with Mrs. Rogan. Like, if I dress like this with, like, a hoodie and a t-shirt, I feel like a schlub. Sometimes, yeah, sure. a picture of somebody from 1906 people wore? Oh, yeah, like Cavaricis.

2:26 Yes, yes, yes. They're so big. You wear whatever you could. Is that things change? The whole wig thing came out of royalty. See if you can find that story. Because it's a fascinating story. Peruk story begins, like many others, Either one. scroll down so it'll tell you who the people were that did it. immediately copied the two kings they sported wigs and the style trickled down to the upper middle

5:31 Well, I mean, think about how much cultural change has taken place in our society just over the last few years. You know, I think the reaction and some of the overreaction, like there's a spectrum, I was thinking of the person who got fired because of... Okay. And then they tip over the sound system. Off to the left yes and almost or censor people or scream about Ben Shapiro or whatever the case is.

8:21 you right even most republicans agree with you and you can go down the list whether it's legalizing marijuana is anybody can be on either. So you're going to get these people that are going to disrupt things. And we don't like to do that. issues. I'm never, even though I don't agree with Stephen Crowder or Ben Shapiro on anything, say, I can't let that guy talk.

10:49 Well, I mean, a lot of saying things Right. like Ben Shapiro and, you know, does this where he's very good at the punchy one-liners. i'm not the biggest fan of debate because so i've done a few debates and people online like when i Yeah, and I think that's actually very important for both sides to do. oh, the left wants this, so I oppose it, or the right wants this, so I have to figure out ways to mock it.

13:45 conversations with rational people like Sam Harris. I try to have conversations with all to try to like browbeat them and tell them that they're wrong on this issue or that issue a lot of what arguments are, and I've failed at this in my life many times, but a lot of what sure who was that who was that skeptic guy from years back that he put you on a list of like top

16:28 in all. Okay. How do I say this? Uh, I don't think Brian is a bad guy. I don't think his brain works intellectual authority. And, you know, he talks with, uh, was it Amazon or Google? So, and even his defense of that is like, I think there's something wrong there. Because before him, you had all these very measured people who had the proper posture and they spoke with their thumb pointed down because they don't want to be too strong with their their finger pointing at you like that right so a fist and then he comes

19:00 going with it, and it's hard? And then there's other people who talk, and it's like, you And he was like, ah, NAFTA, NAFTA's terrible. How about the fucking thing he did But then he has to gratuitously take it so much further. He just stood on the outside. I didn't see The Dead Zone. there was like some scenario that took place where someone was trying to shoot him,

21:22 Was it Walken? Fun. It might not be great anymore. Exactly. He did this thing. Yes. Different times. he kind of paved the way for people like us I have a bunch of framed Lenny Bruce posters in my house. I don't even know if they were stealing it. I should In some states, I think, yeah. I mean. I'll make points and it'll be a point that eight people made before me.

25:31 Like, it was like in movies. Oh, fuck yeah. And, you know, look, I'll go out there and fuck the fire, but you got to give me some sort of a break off my sentence. But the idea that they could pay you a dollar a day to fight a fire is fucking crazy. We're going to punish you. and go, listen, man, you guys are being too In my mind, I think there should be some sort of a middle ground. Like I think prison should be used.

28:21 So are there some situations? So for me, I feel like there are some situations where I get the idea of like life in prison without the possibility of parole. I was going to ask you, how do you feel about the death penalty or was that Cleveland why is he fucking with Kyle and saying he's involved with the clown? I think so. Right. and you have people like the Innocence Project working on trying to overturn cases

30:43 I get it theoretically and philosophically, but it's just that when you actually implement it, His middle name was Wayne? Yeah, well, we were talking about something before the podcast, People's memories are so bad. That's a fucking problem, man. They're already spying on absolutely everybody in the country. They collect all of our metadata I mean, they can, and then they could leak that to whatever media people that they're

33:23 And then, oops, look at that. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't finish it though of him with his kid in his arms Andrew, you're a comic. You just don't I did a live show once, but I also did best man speeches in front of rooms of over 100 people. You care about the guy. I was too vulnerable in front of people I didn't know. I was thinking that a little bit. You crush.

36:58 There's an area you get to, the people. It's different. That's a rush too, though. It's a different rush. It's all a rush. Because people fucking know what you're thinking about, man. But there's still something that's missing from what they're saying rise of the internet because that's all very segmented and structured and you have to go in and out real fast yeah and it's there's nothing

39:30 like this. Back in the fucking 1800s, whatever the fuck that was. this conversation in front of a large group store at the night of the election and during the election we realized that trump we were saying it's That worked. I thought it was entirely possible. is the status quo. She is the establishment. She is business as usual. She doesn't have a message.

42:27 that landed and then when you have hillary so dumb as to not uh campaign in what michigan and First of all, she has absolutely poor health and it was admitted by her husband that she She's just... there was a video that came out where he explained what the charges were and what they had found There's a lot of people that didn't want a woman I'm with her.

45:06 So their base, it's people like me. Again, Slovenia has fucking free college. a behemoth that had the entire Democratic Party machine behind her. Non-stop Russia coverage. as is or take a fucking human bowling ball and throw it at the establishment they're gonna say But the saddest thing is, So if you've got this corrupt party establishment and they're trying to tamper down the wing of the party that can actually win,

48:29 you look at a politician who's running, thing number one is check. Do they take corporate We've got to choose the lesser of two evils. So in other words, you vote these people in and then two weeks later you go ask people, system, that's why the establishment loved Hillary Clinton, because she played by the rules in this now we're seeing more politicians coming up

50:45 And the reason is there are even many people on the right who look at him and go, that were running for president. When you Like, how old is he? are people out there that are his age that take care of their body but the problem with bernie Who's out there? He's risen through the ranks. If you wanted to have him on the podcast, You have to be what? There you go.

53:04 That's so crazy. we were talking about going to Syria Ro Khanna was one of the few who actually spoke up about it and actually said, no, this is crazy. He's one person. say about Tulsi Gabbard. Let me go with the Con is the last name. Silicon or Silicon? it's off the charts no but what i love about roe is that he doesn't do the fake bullshit identity

55:40 Doesn't it? Oh, no. Yes. Because a lot of people are talking right now about fucking Oprah. That's why I kept insisting you show them. I mean, is America ready for a beautiful Also goes to spin class. And again, she's one of the strongest voices legit, though. I'm gonna go out on a limb. I've been lifting! Yeah. Come on, son. Our president. And everybody was like, she's got a vagina.

58:38 Stacey Dash is like a Republican. Yeah, that's what it said. Fox commentator, known for her controversial opinions. Is he old enough? Show the picture of him like fucking feeding a lamb or some shit. He's like, I spoke to a guy named Ted today and he has a So I don't think he's gonna run even though He had a role. Before the election. He was like a bigger than life character.

1:00:55 Garish? Yes. You're showing all your rings. Paul Wall's people reached out to us. I'm pretty sure fanny packs are back. fuck you. Just don't have him wear it around a cop because they might think it's a gun. I think a gold tooth would be kind of fly, like one. you'd celebrate the minute You've got to have nice shit. then for that person it really is about the art of what they're doing.

1:03:45 If one of those guys had like one of their, you can't be a rapper, you smell like fish. Is that beard fake? You sound like a hater. How pathetic is that? Not any more than a guy who has to fucking go to a coal mine or some shit. the youtube demonetization wave that hit after that pootie pie cocksucker decided it was a good But also just being an awkward young white boy from New Rochelle

1:05:32 living in New Rochelle, you were living in New Rochelle. that's so i was a little fucking kid watching joe rogan and now i'm doing his podcast well Was that your first? No, you had NewsRadio before that. Back in the 90s, they were doing that because they had seen what happened with Roseanne. And so I had a development deal. And then I had a show that was on on Fox for a few episodes, and it got canceled.

1:07:43 Yeah, you don't know what the fuck you're doing. Yeah, it's fucking to grind, son. Well, the acting stuff was just an opportunity to make money. there's not many people you're almost are you a would you say you're a list no no no i'm like a c-list person no you're at least be like act itself to authenticity. It's a job that lends itself to conformity because you're always

1:10:05 Kentucky like, he says is taking on extra 148 episodes. And so I felt like at the very least it would give me some material, And when I got my first development deal, there was this physical weight that lifted off of me where I didn't have to worry, how am I going to pay my rent next month? and apparently researchers found out that you hit a certain level of happiness when you hit $75,000 a year

1:12:37 I think also the amount of work that you have to do to make a million dollars a year significantly stresses you out. who's just all about just vices Yeah, fucking people in the ass and whatnot. Like Kevin Smith, just have a heart attack. of a guy he's one of those guys where and you know I just turned 30 on January 31st. I was like I'm telling you something's weird and you're not even you know even thinking about my perspective

1:15:15 Well, it happens. toxic power struggle sure oh yeah man that's the worst it becomes a weird machiavellian Like, especially, like, rich guys with hot girls that, like, don't, where it doesn't make any sense. aware individual, nobody talks about it, I don't know why people don't think it's a bigger That's why we have people about a living wage i'm like you're out of your fucking mind if you think someone should be

1:17:58 I don't care if he's 12 years old. at the top of the business won't make as much money as they do. I think it's like $17 and change. it's not... They didn't... Look at that. on Australia's minimum wage, raising it Because if you account for inflation, is the system. And the only reason why we don't have a system like Australia does with their don't have the money to do this.

1:21:01 they don't pay their people a living wage, Like, the whole CEO position is very bizarre. But if you're a part of a big bank or you're part of a fucking hedge fund that made the decisions that ended up crashing I don't know what would have happened if we let the banks fail. don't do. They never come out and say, tons of money after they fucked up and did a shitty job.

1:23:26 I'll take the guy who's going to break shit. Vague words that mean flowery things. What's his full name? Nah, he talks like a normal dude. Bro, don't be a pussy. And the purpose is very simple. We've got to get this guy on Adderall. I mean, it wouldn't make sense. There's been a lot of reporting on it. He was supposed to be on it for six months. 70-some-odd-year-old guy

1:25:56 like I have a good friend. He gained 50 pounds. He was just jacked up on these things all the time. something that I can do like I could try something and then I I could be more creative. One of the things that people don't like about weed is the intense, introspective. I'm like looking at that and I want to run away? what, I mean, like who you are at any given time is a bunch of different factors, right? It's what's

1:28:45 And when you were in a state just an hour ago where you were super comfortable about your life, They make you uncomfortable, so you push them aside. But I've always... So with That happens sometimes too the drugs Yes, a little hit and just experience the good parts get high. Did that happen with you or no? And then by the third or fourth time, somebody had asked me before I had class, you want to smoke weed?

1:32:02 I opened the door to come back in school and I start walking down the hallway I was like so anyway to the point where and then we kept laughing. I think they balance each other out because the nootropics accentuate your memory. so that you don't have the effects on sleep? There's some positive benefits to it it just bypasses that REM sleep even though the feeling is different when they take it,

1:34:53 Yeah, there's no reason to ban it. Opioids. is because what they're trying to do is find a backdoor way to be like, They killed Tom Petty and Princess here. But the stuff that they found in Princess' system, he apparently didn't even have a prescription for the top of his how old is he 50 51 shit human body Shit. The human body is so fucking fragile.

1:37:19 My good friend Eddie Bravo has an artificial disc in his back. So two knee surgeries from jujitsu. And then I had a third operation from jiu-jitsu as well. So two knee surgeries from jiu-jitsu. I haven't gone to Panama yet to do that. and guys are going there. That's kind of like a vampire, too, right? They might have actually been trying to steal her land, so they might have fabricated some of these charges. But one of the ancient stories of Elizabeth Bathory was that she was this incredibly evil woman that as she got older, she would torture and kill young peasant women and like bathe in their blood because she wanted to regain

1:40:05 so they concocted some charges. Or it could be either or. It could be both. You know, His books detail all all the various studies it's not already here is because there's some preexisting treatment for stuff like that, And then in the process of cultivating them, there's some sort of a method that they do that they believe categorizes it as a drug.

1:42:08 response. I know quite a few people is better, is superior. and pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money from having those treatments already in place. Did you ever see the documentary, The Oxycontin Express? So it's one box, right, one building. this tree down i guess i'm gonna fucking use a hammer like it's i mean it's fucking crazy that So Florida was literally, because

1:44:41 records of who's fucking on this afraid to prescribe them at all, even when it's a legitimate pain issue. And so people contact me, Still legal. Still legal. Still legal, but Then you go, fuck off. because they opened up a comments section uh comments period and like 99.9 of the comments were like and so the idea, there's another way they try to go,

1:46:55 piece of fentanyl. That's it. Reporters decided, let's look into this. Another was a homicide. in their system. Exactly. Yeah, people were partying, man. Because it's legalized? Booming to the point where they have to give people money back. Yeah, I mean, it's a high tax rate. Right. If you look at it objectively, you would have to say, listen, this substance, which is legal and has been legal for a very long time, is actually more dangerous than many of these ones that are illegal.

1:49:53 thing that trump should have recognized when he was jeff sessions yeah he's a perfect example that decided, let's not be fucking corrupt idiots and let's actually fight for something. Do you have If you tell people on the right, hey, you guys say you love small government. Yeah, exactly. was on msnbc the reason he ended up leaving msnbc he was too hard on the democrats so his higher-ups

1:52:44 Both the parties are corrupt. Nobody's fighting for the people. Exactly. It's an archaic version of entertainment, And now you got wild shit like Fox News and all this. Four? It's hilarious. Yeah. I don't know why I said Ryan Seacrest. Just there's too many cooks in the kitchen. change this or tweak that and so they can say that was my idea and that justifies their role well it

1:56:02 Worst for you which show it was it worst for you? Which show? They don't know what's funny. know the realest guy in the world he's a perfect example too because for the longest time i was but in terms of being the funniest, that I don't think I've seen anybody. And forever, yeah and he didn't fit that mold because he's too rough around the edges and he curses too much

1:58:47 Not only that, I'm a fan of comedy. Joey's not doing that. So, and I was telling you before the podcast, too, and I'll tell Joey if he's watching. something at the ice house and I'm going to put it all together and I'm going to direct it and It's like you smoking pot and realizing millions of people are talking yeah exactly that that's uh that's sort of what it's like for a

2:01:01 for 10 000 hours or whatever the fuck it is. Is that Gladwell? No. ah, you know, you're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to be well-rounded and this and Okay, go be the fucking best video game player in the world. Really interesting documentary. Remember that? It's a Shokunin, I think. What is it? something methodically, I don't eat sushi. A lot of different things I'm seeing for definitions.

2:04:00 I thought the fish was fresh. Everybody knows about dry, aged meat. you as a person. Is it a, I mean, is he getting the ingredients correct? Yeah, the Shokunin definition said, like, this is one of the main reasons why Jordan Peterson got very popular. where people wanted to have a little bit of direction And he was talking about how he went over every sentence to see if it can be improved or criticized.

2:06:42 If I fucked up, I'll listen. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something about inspiration in that form, like the exemplified form. I think you said that after the podcast, right? Well, you know, Corin and I were talking about it before. Yeah. Because I knew it wasn't real. draw these women with these enormous legs an enormous butt but they weren't fat they were just it was voluptuous they well no it was you

2:10:13 jamie the one to the right yeah right there like oh my goodness this is what he used to draw he was Like, he's always choking them. Like, you or something like that. he just looks odd it was because he's holding up that picture. Yeah. Maybe it's also because I'm looking at him now as an older man. Or find a gal. pretty famous it's a surgical creation.

2:12:57 them up. And they made it look like everything was in place, but it's not. Yeah. It's a disaster. This is what it really looks like. A girl who has an ass like that has legs to match it. to get fake muscles. It's the same thing. Yeah, because of the legs, though. Yeah, but not like that. Look at his face Sometimes they get gangrene and shit multiple recorded cases of this, where they will

2:15:03 There are some people where they feel there's so many different weird pathologies that that the mind is capable of but the idea that you I haven't really thought about it too much. Okay? thought that they were fucking wood elf I mean or that they that's the furry shit is the weird shit oh that's it at all. And then I think Don't give it power. So if you think, the first point you made, which is,

2:18:38 and i feel like it it delegitimizes the ones that are real yeah when you go too goofy and too far You're going to get that with people that are off to that and says you know what I'm aligned more with the right wing because So if you focus on those issues, the economic issues, the substantive issues that change people's lives, And that's where you get the gateway to the right because people go if you're gonna Like you couldn't just accept that she was a woman. You were forced to say that she was beautiful and that she's a hero.

2:21:11 Well, I think when it comes to the transgender thing, too, I mean, this is a rational area of contention and discussion. down the street without lipstick and high heels and makeup What you really are is you. because i think this is a real weird issue it's very weird and i think the only people that truly Sure, sure. And he makes a lot of really good points about, like, what is it that's happening in your life?

2:24:30 And they're exercising, they're eating healthy, they're doing everything by the book. The problem with that is there's real scientists and doctors that disagree with that. natural endorphins that come from that exercise. It's all the same. But it's hard to do. Can you orgasm anymore? sees shit that's not there and it's a genuine psychological disorder

2:27:22 I don't know, but then this gets back to the point you made Well, it's it's certainly blurry. I guess the same thing Like how can you say that the only way to fix this, Sure. Well, absolutely, when it comes to the example you give about breasts, totally agree 100%. There's a massive, massive suicide rate. See if, let's be accurate about this. And could that be changed by us being more open-minded and loving and caring and accepting?

2:30:01 But if it is a legitimate mental health disorder, which it used to be called, it used to be called gender dysphoria. And now if you use the term gender dysphoria, it's hate speech. In terms of us talking about this might get this podcast demonetized. keep your dick yeah that's a good point if you were still a woman before and pretty much everybody She was like, I'm very traditional

2:31:30 It's like, you fucking privileged prick. I mean, when you listen to her talk, she's like one of the worst spokespeople ever for the trans community. The woman who created for that Joe Rogan Wow. indicate that suicide rates remain high after sex reassignment surgery. Oh, PLOS1 is legit. For sure. Yeah, a lot of attention. You know what I'm saying? And I think open-mindedness is incredibly critical in our wide, diverse society.

2:35:20 Well, there's a, going back to Heather Hying and Eric Weinstein, that in my mind they're probably more supportive of it time to do it and that you could Adulthood. You have to be this age for porn. Yes. and they're going to look back at that video someday I think we should just draw a clean brain's not fully developed. But at the same time. Somewhere around then.

2:38:21 I think there is. They want to do things that the adults do. A 17-year-old boy and a 17-year-old girl should be able to make out, out of the nest and you become your own person establish your own ideas based on your life experiences and education, what you've learned from all the other people that you've interacted with. But any time you have a system where you say,

2:40:34 And that's like, so that's kind of what we're talking about here. I agree, 100%. This is madness. when I was in high school and I was smoking He was part of this thing called the Chum Gang, where he would... Okay, because he did smoke weed a lot, and he'm pretty sure okay because he did smoke weed a lot he admits it and then you know i think that there were charges

2:42:18 there were people who got who have life sentences as a result of non-violent drug offenses yeah now from us it's fucking crazy i mean they're literally a part of a drug dealing enterprise Yeah, I don't think anybody could rationally argue that. You could go to the CVS and buy enough liquor to kill yourself instantly. Yeah. Yeah, is that the water? I don't know

2:44:30 Don't do it. I'm going to do it on the way down the street from White Plains Billiards? I only never had white pizza before but all. There were old dive bars and shit. All we The right, to the right of that. You have to try... Fucking God damn it. We couldn't tell the difference. And I was like, well, we were in over our fucking heads now, weren't we?

2:47:08 What if they gave it to them? any of that kind of shit like you're fucked man and that's why gambling should be fucking legal I don't believe in ghosts, but I go to the belly room. Well, people have been murdered there for sure. Fuck off, Tony. of the comedy store all the way up to Crest Hill, When you look at like all those TV shows that like haunted Hollywood, the comedy store is

2:49:49 That is the biggest cock tease of a show. Yeah, that's right. a lot of the shows that they would have on their network. man living in the forest or that aliens come down and suck people out of their beds and According to him, but see Alex he goes with the weather a little bit, too The reason why it looks like a cloud is because it's a fucking cloud.

2:52:05 in the air. It's so stupid. I don't an hour and a fucking half was talk about Russia. 950% interest I care about Stormy And here's the thing. it's something that So I'll break that down. that, he pushed the Trump administration to not arm the Kurds who are fighting ISIS. And the reason a hundred billion dollar weapons deal he also took 270 000 from top saudi officials at his hotel

2:56:31 other countries that they're corrupt with because they're hyper focusing on the Russia So really, this is Democrats sniffing their own farts and acting like they're doing something important when they're really not. and try to fight that government if you're in bed. into a standoff with russia i don't want to bomb fucking syria and permanently occupy it this is

2:58:13 We're sitting here living our lives just going about our is really focused on right now, so it's something that There's 30 million people that don't have health care. So when they turn on CNN and they see Russia, Russia, Russia, even if you don't like Trump, Well, I think he's going to run again, and he has a chance. vote for and so there is an argument that he's going to make to the people and if you don't have somebody like bernie sanders or bernie sanders talking about the issues that matter to people

3:00:45 The trick is avoid the opinion section, but if you stick to the actual journalists, then This has been a lot of fun, man. This was a lot of fun.