Joe Rogan Experience #1105 — Michael Hunter Transcript

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0:00 four three two one hello michael welcome thanks man thanks for doing this thanks for coming in Like, how did this all get started? Possibly Canadian. So they started in December, and they really- Like we have fun with the sign. And, you know, we get cute with our sign. We tease other restaurants around us, like we have fun with the sign and it's fun. And the cyclist vegan rode by and took huge offense

2:36 our business that, uh, I just kind of got fed up last resort, went down, we get a whole deer a I wanted to defend myself, defend our customers. You know, you could see people walking in visibly upset. you know, Medicine is the new kale. There's an actual butcher shop across the street. interference yeah man i have no idea it's totally bizarre i'm sorry how many times did they protest to cycle by and dream of broccoli without any interference.

4:14 They still do. What? Do you have to put that in your window? Well, the part of this that drives me the most crazy is the fact that you're surrounded by restaurants. And it's local. So we would call the police. happens like maybe they'll just they'll go away and uh so then like a megaphone came out uh our going to win. And And they want to win. cookbook right now is because I think that, you know, if you do eat meat, you should be

8:28 You know, there's a real argument, it's not obviously not you or I that has set up the system, Sort of, but it's not really necessary at all. So the fact that we were targeted for this was really, really frustrating. forced to shoot them out of helicopters they hire it's crazy they hire people to come in with And they have to hunt them at night or they hunt them with dogs.

11:21 That farm is being attacked by pigs. There's very few deer. there's so many fucking deer up there it's one of the reasons why lyme disease is so horrible up Look at that. Yeah, he's got it really bad. I'm not sure when, but there's tons of axis deer on Maui and on Lanai and on Molokai, a couple of different islands. There's no other, unless you're just going to poison them or you're going to somehow

14:41 Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's where the glaciers didn't pass through. They're just eating grains. And they're so good. don't understand is hunters actually, we have to buy tags. We have to buy our licenses. There No one contributes more to conservation than hunting. We love the animals. They're eating salmon. hard it's also really hard like when i see a deer come out i hunt with a with a bow crossbow

18:57 I mean, what they have an idea and the idea is animals should not die, And people think that animals, they die peacefully in the wild. it's a way more humane way to go, in my opinion. We could shoot afterwards, but satisfaction for serving up some from, because it's coming from, I think there's a lot of distortion with like really angry ones. I mean, there's a ton of them online that you can go.

21:27 What was the name of that cafe again? started eating those cattle and the fucking vegans freaked out death threats all this crazy shit Power to you. and I'm not full. Well, right now people are screaming at their, you're doing it wrong. Sometimes I get dirty looks wildlife and being out there and experiencing nature. you are almost in another dimension.

24:56 is the reason why humans are humans today. And I'm sure the vegan argument against that would be, and all the other predators, they start eating each other. and give it to the wolves you can go fuck yourself all right and this is literally what it boils down That's where a lot of like serious diseases that infect wildlife come from. One of the main arguments is the horrific treatment of those animals,

27:12 Joel Salatin is a very fascinating guy. He moves it to a new space. And his perspective on all this is that if you do it right, it's not horrific. And then when it's time, they're collected and harvested. wild boar why do they say wild boar when it's wild pig? So it's a male, it actually And they've got the tusks in the jaw. Yeah, but do you know that they're all the same breed?

29:59 There's the Berkshire. What's crazy about wild pigs is if you took a domestic pig, weird animal. Pigs are a weird weird. They're a weird animal. Pigs are i've been pig hunting i've shot a. Yeah, I've been pig hunting. And where I do it, what's really interesting is in California, a lot of the pigs were introduced And they had invented a machine called a decorticator.

32:22 to have to transition all of his paper mills. And he owned forests that they would cut down the trees and make paper with. They would a lot of people that were voting on it became illegal. Well, this same crazy asshole let a bunch of wild pigs loose on his property so he No. mean, no bullshit. They're fucking dangerous. It's a crazy animal. They're delicious too. Yeah. That's actually the first bird I hunted. I didn't actually start

35:19 We, you know, we shot a couple birds. and it's this big white blob and it's humongous. Look at him. but I'm done. California baby. times a year and I love it. I love it too. it too i you know the mountain lion thing is a weird thing with california because i i see their point wildlife. See, we call it the ministry of natural resources. Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.

37:55 His name is Jeremiah Dowdy from Field to Plate. tule elk that are natural on the coast there's there's a lot of different animals here yeah but uh there's also a lot of motherfucking mountain lions whoa yeah and they when they do an autopsy on them, they find it filled with dogs and cats, it was about five or six years ago where was this uh somewhere in orange county someone was attacked

39:50 They have an established gated community that we've entered. Yes. Yeah. And then there's the fact that when you're making these, we just cut the field. Look at all the vultures and the vultures just circling overhead and landing in the field right Fognac Island, which is like one of those chains of islands near Kodiak. So it has those enormous your brain is so terrified and this thing was so big my friend janice said that he saw its teeth gnashing

43:17 And I was like, Holy shit, this is a buck. I got blown. Were you in Canada? We get a lot of doe tags. I think it's because the farms are kind of closer together. And it's really stupid because you can shoot coyotes too with a rifle or shotgun, Coyotes are a fascinating animal. then uh here's what's really dark i dug a hole and a bird the And this was a chicken that we would turn over rocks,

46:05 That's so cool. No? She decided she was going to change some of these fences to a glass fence. So over the weekend, we went to this pet store that we go to, So they fixed up the hawk and they told us the hawk was – they took care of its wing and eventually they released it back in the wild so it was a nice story but there's this one pinky left over and

48:30 Do you understand that? Look, they get a mouse and they fuck Because the cat, everybody thinks of cats as being vicious. They're experts in bobbing and weaving and turning their heads. And chickens in particular are just – Yeah. Give me that thing. He's fast, too. is it's it's an ideological battle and in that sense veganism becomes very much like a religion because you support all the people

51:34 what they're doing, fuck with your hormone functions a lot of vegans have low susceptible to vegetable diets. But he's like, in reality, he's like, you know, you're a Northern European, you know, descent. You can get some of it from algae. Like it might be rich in that substance, but your body can't really absorb it. Because there's a lot of times you'll feel okay, and then you get your blood work done,

54:33 And you just add it to smoothies. It said something like 90% of all vegans are B12 deficient. I love, I love, that's my favorite thing about hunting is the organ meat. It was just like, whoa. And we were both talking about how when you eat really nutrient-dense wild game, it gives you like a stimulated effect. And it's, you know, my belief is that that's how we're supposed to be eating.

57:40 ancestors develop did they eat mostly fish like there's people that live like in the Northwest, like the extreme, like in Alaska and Inuits and people. or stop killing seals, and the government was supplementing them with beef and cattle. The fat content in beef is way different than whale and seal. james who's just like this super athlete and compare like the composition of his body to some

1:00:13 It's a very different thing. And since they were like, you know, babies, my son's been dragged in the woods since he was one. I've never seen them in the wild. and kind of white or yellowish ones. And it's something really special that you can go and experience in the wild. I'm not on my call,, so I don't know. they're feeding off the root system that's underground. Yeah. I'm absolutely fascinated

1:02:10 That's awesome. It's called Know Your Mushrooms, I think. But they track these foragers. the grocery store well it's like no they grow they come in the wild and you know that's that's That is the subject of a book by a guy named John Marco Allegro, for, I think it was 14 years before he wrote this book, he decided that all of Christianity was a massive misunderstanding.

1:05:03 agriculture, right? I mean, it was touch and go. Well, they knew that there was a relationship between carnivorous trees. And carnivorous trees would grow these weird-looking, shiny red and white mushrooms under them. Caribou are reindeer. They have a second process of this. That's such a cool story. what's been told to me. But I do know that they stopped production of it forever. He came out with another book called The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth, which is still available.

1:07:54 original meaning of all these parables and stories are. Because of course, you're going from and which is where these mushrooms are very common. I think I may have to go back over that again. You can't eat them raw. no, like awesome culinary mushroom. And it tastes like chicken. and went back and harvested it. like I better get this before someone else finds it.

1:10:14 They didn't want to share their knowledge with me. One of those. Oh, that's so cool, man. if you go and harvest those, they're really woody by that time Yeah, those are like perfect. It's fascinating. Fungus is a weird thing, man. Shout out to Paul. But it's fascinating, the effects they have on people. They do not understand why something so important, like the thing that actually created the theory of i mean that of

1:13:42 One, it increased visual acuity. man. Terrence called it the stoned ape theory. That's what he, that's how he thinks we became And this guy had a diner on the corner and was like, hey, man, like I don't need anyone to pump gas, but can you cook? You know, I wanted money to buy skateboards and pot and stupid shit. And I thought, well, I'm just going to go to chef school and make a go of this. Like I've got all this experience. I'm already this far ahead.

1:16:45 whoa cool that's amazing and it's like a postcard yes postcard this is actually a sketch my friend It's really, really old. you know, modern civilization about hunting and foraging. And he was taking some culinary courses at the local college just as a hobby. So in Canada, and I'm pretty sure the U.S. is pretty similar, you can't serve wild game in a restaurant.

1:18:45 actually wanted to buy a ticket. They came, we thought they're going to write this little blurb And it was just sort of our home. photo it's deer and turkey and rabbit and these things we all we serve at antler because that's So it's kind of like a coconut water type of beverage. and hang a bucket and it just drips out and wow yeah and how long does it take to drip

1:21:35 You know, the growth of Antler. Yeah. and they would have like oil lamps from the oil from the blubber. How do you say it? They would dip the fish in seal oil and eat it. cedar tea and it's full of vitamin C and minerals and nutrients. Where do you get the cedar from? it into antler. Uh, another way we use the cedar is in a cocktail. We do a cedar gin sour. So we infuse, we infuse the gin with, uh, with cedar leaves for like a week. And then, uh, we shake

1:24:16 Like most people associate that 45 seats. you have the right to try that. that has a permit to process it and expect it. Newfoundland? Yeah, I don't want market hunting of wild game. You have to. That's supported by more and more research every day. Vice just did an article questioning whether mollusks were vegan. And mushrooms, too, apparently are very cleansing.

1:27:09 My body has to – it has to perform and it has my whole life. They're not scared of me at all. And if you go to the store and you buy organic eggs and you buy the healthier version, yes, you're paying an extra buck or two bucks or whatever it is. economics, right? And you give people the option to make the most amount of money I get it. It's killing animals.

1:29:53 and it's the part of their daily existence, Here we go. She had nobody there for her. That's true. Crazy town? It's not food You should see the way your cunt little bird, Snow, This guy's amazing. yeah make a video where you state your case or come and talk to me and all right they didn't vegetarian fed? Well, then you got a sick it should animal rights people will come and should be your cat we'll talk about that later

1:34:34 Nothing we're doing is illegal. I think just murderer. They didn't respond for a while. If you know them, they own the UFC now. uh, to compete against 11 other chefs from around the world. Uh, it was amazing. It was incredible. Where did you do that? What does that mean, asado? you kind of have to baste it to keep it moist. Just playing around, having fun.

1:37:44 your question. It's going to be nuts down there. Yeah. And so we feature one of our vegan dishes on the sign. Yeah. evidence and because of thinking and careful consideration and I've done that And I really started getting very, very interested in hunting. a mule deer and we ate it that night over the fire. And I said, that's it. It's amazing. I'm a hunter. I'm like, that's it. The cool, the cool part about hunting is, uh,

1:41:23 a stew with that stuff and it is unbelievably tasty. Um, and you know, I think, and a lot of guys, when they go So good, yeah. Yeah, it was neat. It was really cool. Go vegan. It's within the last couple of decades. We're really sorry what you're going through. like dinner and a show like people want to see it people are requesting the window table and

1:44:22 Is there anything else you'd like to tell people? Whoa, dude. So I braised that skull, Do you have access to a freezer? Yes. Oh, beautiful. I love it. Thanks, man. The battle is factory farming. Be nice to each other.