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Joe Rogan Experience #1125 — Candace Owens Transcript

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0:00 Four, three, two, one, boom, and we're live. In the Twitterverse. somewhere around 10,000 years ago that basically killed off a giant percentage of the population on the planet. It's just outrage culture. It's never that serious. Yeah. But even when I do things, just before this, I was like, oh, let me do an Instagram story You know, girls that just, hey, guys, and they all day and it feels normal.

2:44 thing in the world, but my entire life is on social media. I've just met you but you seem like a very bright woman and My friend Cameron Haynes loves you. Well, it's hard to pull off right because do you really want someone to lose their job It's insane. Right. She apologized. I forgot. carpets. Ambien is just like sleepwalk. You don't do anything. I don't do anything. Are you a teetotaler? I mean, I wasn't always. I just, I kind of got,

6:42 matter what emotion you have, there's like a liquor designed for it so i was like this is a little shady like i don't know i Yeah. Like if, if other people are drinking and you don't, they're like know but um yeah that's a weird one right like if And I'm at the age where all my friends are getting married. The culture of drinking as a non-drinker, you really realize how bizarre it is socially.

8:18 Yeah. But we learned a lot. And I always talk about like people are like, what are the differences you've noticed? got bad once I turned 26, like skin immediately clears up. So I'm like, oh, yeah, my skin just got bad once I turned 26. Like, skin immediately clears up. This is, like, how I train myself to do things. do things i'll like read some really extreme thing on the internet

10:22 how to use a drink just tell that dude to sit down relax he's got so much energy right like he's just like going at it It's good to be highly productive, but it's also good to have fun. It's very weird. And they want to talk to you and explain things. It's a weird thing to watch sober. Which is kind of a weird sentence. Yeah. It's the internet. Right.

13:06 and you're like, this makes perfect sense. that there's no value in being a victim We're going to put a bull in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King. a bullet in the back of your head like we did to Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, Yeah. I have my buddy Tommy Jr., he lives in Connecticut, and I'm always telling him, dude, you gotta move out of Connecticut, and it became this terrible running joke where I talk about that

14:45 I would drive from Boston Shout out to Um, Was this tied to like a boyfriend? up we're going to the principal's office like you know you have to report this he brings me into the It was a stupid thing. for me one of the people in the car happened to be the current governor of connecticut's son son that was in this car, they had to get the FBI involved to determine the authenticity

18:02 school people were like fighting on my behalf, fighting. it was just like. where like literally I don't believe Candace, I don't believe you still. Like if no one, like this whole situation a 14 year old racist, right? yeah and wow yeah you went through anorexia yeah which is so weird now because like people that These kids are this. there's like a bunch of people together doing the same thing exactly wrap it up and start saying

21:19 You can say anything to this pen. I actually knew the kid's mother. Maybe it was their first beer. I scare you. Right, that they could just, yeah, and they might have been drunk, you know, like drunk. Maybe it was their first them a racist? Because what they said was most certainly new york city the other day and um like a huge bus like just happened to like stop in front of me

23:14 What stupid thoughts even had to have because I'm frustrated in the moment that I can't like get my bearings in New York City. Yeah, it's over. Of course. Correct. What happens there? Have you seen some of the shit that Keith Oberman has said about Trump? like a famous person no it was a famous person absolutely called a famous black person famous or rules culturally. And I don't like those

25:39 I read this. Branding them. must be off the charts. liked a tweet Right. I just think she's a weird person. well she's getting older and I think she wants like a friend at lunch I was I didn't tweet that. but I observed the pattern of Kathy Griffin. society. They are just trying to parent the hell out of society. and they're completely wrong and educated about everything and yet they they think they can say

28:55 USA, which loves Trump. I'm like, It was like the whole Israel like it was bizarre But you can say anything about like Sarah Huckabee Sanders. To me. Hate, hate, hate. Right. Kathy Griffin was like, they went nuts. And something sort of just happened. going to lob grenades. Right. it's all peace like I'm definitely a person that'll just say something but

31:47 and people are like back down or you can't like, it's genuine. I think people think there's much more like hate between us than there is. It's like, nah, it's just like genuinely like I read his tweets and I'm like, and by the way, I like him. That's the thing that's bizarre. I think people think there's much more hate between us than there is. It's like Kim Kardashian goes to get Alice Marie Johnson.

32:37 but I don't think he's worshiping, and every person Like, you know, for the sake of celebrity, That's what I'm saying. She literally had a case passionate about it. Like I grew up seeing my uncles in prison. So like for me, the only time you know, Yeah. But she, That's actually a little closer than I thought it was. Exactly. pretty goddamn good right there.

35:05 fucking awesome work she's plump yeah it's good looks good yeah but i guess the question is can All of that stuff, when they do stuff like that, it's great and it's honorable. it's like, shut up. I mean, this is just those fucking award shows are weird as shit. Thank you, Odin. And they used to go down. In between having sex with everyone, Marlon Brando apparently fucked Richard Pryor.

37:11 Am I making that up you know, fuck anything in quotes. when he won and take it in his place For The Godfather. Is that what's going on? I don't even know if it really was him. Accepting the award for Marlon Brando and the Godfather, Miss Sashene Littlefeather. She's really pretty. I'm like really uncomfortable. long speech which I cannot share with you presently because of time, but I will be glad

39:55 Pause for a second. Heavy Head. Right. It was NBC on Twitter. Yeah. It's just like, I can't take anything seriously anymore. And I'm like, come on, man. I like him too. That's the know. He's a funny guy. He's very snarky. I like him a lot. I like him too. She's writing you a pink slip. It's just, it's so bad. I can't do that. Yeah, he does that, man.

42:15 it's like, but I do wonder like, You're like, who's he having? he thinks other people are stupid he thinks everyone is stupid yeah talk as fast as me yeah Him, like, you know, him tweeting out, I love the way Canstone sings, but beyond that, saying that he openly supported the president. And so these kids turn to culture to father them. like dismiss him as crazy.

44:36 willing to talk about politics. If you want to talk about like smart beyond like it the smartest i know is charlie kirk hands down and he's only 24 um he didn't he didn't go to college just like i don't know just And anybody that is not a Democrat is racist and against helping us. how did I fall victim to it the exact same system right these three verticals the first being the

46:43 Bill in black America. And then he stands on stage and endorses Hillary Clinton. He stands on stage and tells black America to put the same people in the White House that locked up more he didn't want that. I didn't speak to him. I know that Jay-Z and Beyonce betrayed the black community. who was selected behind closed doors, So they were a part of the celebrated celebrities that were allowed to go to the White House

48:22 Look at Roseanne. And people were looking for something to hate her over. supporter as an open target. Even if they're a reasonable how they treat I like the guy. the green room afterwards to the comedian's bar and jake tapper was on tv and he was so bummed out I know. And she says, Donald Trump. that's my team now whoo ghost dealers and then that's what happens it's like it's like teams

51:39 So half of them are fake, in my opinion. I find them to be fake because I've seen them behind closed doors. That shit was ridiculous. We're going in a different direction. Everyone loves him. But then they take away the clips you're lying on 50,000 people, says oh if this was the old days we take you we take you out to the back like you know do you

53:38 Yeah. look at the people that are in poverty. telling me the other day that they made some video. I'm not paying attention to that stupid shit. Kelly and Conway was the best. But they're all like that. So clearly Laurel. I don't know, it's... Laurel. Anyway. that they all come on this show because it's people should actually see how hilarious they What?

57:40 tone, with the perfect hand mannerism, with, you know, with the, I don't know, the perfect inflection the perfect hand mannerism um with you know um with the i don't know the And I think if that's why Trump coming in behind him was so relatable as a president, like there's this theory and it's a good one by Tamir Karan that why do like revolution revolutions take place unexpectedly? You could argue that right now

58:53 Everywhere you go, people get offended about people's hair. hair and upset them. Yeah. Like that takes a lot of research. Lightning storms. There's no wolves in the street. Hang up on her. Speaking right now. Yeah. And have a bunch of good friends that you really love and you surround yourself with be over. You can. You just have to legitimately not give a fuck and have a bunch of good friends

1:01:12 That's what I do. if they'd actually where they all were just like ah and then like the next day his fist right now it was over yeah This is what I want to get to. sidelines. So how do you go from that? I wanted to correct what had happened to me. Like I felt, and I still feel in my soul that children today are growing up in a time that and um nannying for these kids they they're so they care about how they look when i was 10 like

1:04:07 So I literally were going around. saying that I'm raising money for this project to help you know combat online bullying like it was I wasn't in politics. And at this point, she was working for Twitter as the official anti-harassment arm of Twitter. And instantly to me, it was off. masks off trolls figuratively we never had built a technology we never like what we were saying

1:06:29 Because my Kickstarter said, that we were going to be able had an idea. The world would probably be a better place if everybody did have to use Wait a minute. Yes. Whoa. I agree. It's something that. Within one hour, we start getting inundated. Milo and Breitbart were just covering all of the instances that people have accused her of like, And you were just making YouTube videos at the time.

1:09:30 How did she get your contact? And like at that time I wasn't even like on Twitter. So you just thought you were going to have a conversation with someone. One hundred percent. inundated with harassment people. And she was saying that you I still have them. I'd have to pull it up. Why did she my family, like my grandmother's, the New York Magazine and the Washington Post tried to smear me.

1:11:38 Why the hell is the Washington Post know who I don't even know this article so you had no idea that there was accusations that she had harassed herself. I'm like, And then people that I thought were white nationalists, which was like Breitbart, was the only publication that was like, just like landed and then people that i thought were white nationalists

1:12:59 active and people that were like reaching down and just being kind were like mike cernovich who like one of those blame the victim things. Nobody may not be deceptive. you know what I'm saying? I, There was nothing about politics, So they called me and pretended to be my friend. They pulled the article i said if harassing herself why are you trying to figure out like where I'm getting money from you know

1:16:25 I was like, I literally had the recording. To issue a strong statement against me calling me a liar. that and then donald trump gets on a stage and he's like the washington post is fake news It's just amazing. I hear there's another company coming out. I buy a lot of shit off Amazon. It's there. Oh, come on. Well, occasionally I have a good story. Everything?

1:18:28 They just want to report the news. That's a very difficult No, it can't be Roseanne. She's not number one. It could be Roseanne because it put that out there. Okay. I bet it's Roseanne. No, it can't be Roseanne. Lin-Manuel Miranda's seat of power. I went too. And she looks nice in that picture. Oh, they did it on TV? What? Like the word? That shit's crazy.

1:20:10 And the people that get it the worst Like, this is like so weird. Those words should not have been aired. But she's not going to get fired. And also, you know, and did a lot of jobs for people that disagreed with her. She's like, I'm too fucking old for this shit. Perfectible. happen because human beings are constantly learning we're flawed right but don't you think that

1:22:30 Right, 100%. It causes all sorts of issues. No questions asked. racism? There's some places where racism is just deep-seated and they accept it culturally. was not racist, was racist. minding their own business, that they would have got fucked with with the same exact energy? It's like the weirdest thing. I'm like, this is a very trip? Power trips happen. I've seen it happen at the

1:25:32 I could have walked away and said she was racist and she randomly selected my bag 22 times to go through and made me go through and miss my flight. like, I'll buy a cookie, or a little like juice box Like, so on both ends, you got to pee real bad and there's a line right you go and then i i i'll probably sprint to the bathroom and then buy But you have two people that are being stubborn and taking it to as far as possible.

1:26:49 They looked at them and they said, these guys are black. The whole thing didn't make any sense. Yeah, Yeah, Oh wait, of what you would talk about No, I would be really good. It seems like something it's not. racist. I see. I think it's highly possible all over Philadelphia. That's like what I do. What area of town were you in? Yeah, they did. Yeah, so it's a bizarre place.

1:29:24 And then I was there for the UFC. I mean, it became like, got, what was the guy's name? And we were barbecued. it actually gets me mad because to me, And I'm like this is not like the the black community that I grew up in in my family Just like, because that is black culture. it's he's being funny but he's also saying stuff that's real talking about that baby mama culture

1:31:54 should be tighter regulations on people with mental illness people with the slope is incredibly to be able to buy a gun? I'm against it because And the idea is that if you take a 17-year-old kid fresh out of high school and send him the guns. I'm asking you, what do you think is wrong mental health right so i say i i I'm like, okay, yes, it's funny because she's four, but it's also like not funny because she's four, right?

1:34:03 okay with that and so parents are pushing their kids to be more outrageous because there's a way that Rick Rubin. Yep. There's structure in me when I grew up and my grandpa used to make us read the Bible with structure i think we need we need religion back i think that that needs to stop being such So the structure in the home is, in my opinion, It's the information age,

1:36:12 which one is right? I know I'm going to be honest. Right. I didn't watch her series. helpful right ideologies are helpful sometimes because they give you like a like a format to It's not about deciding. you know, whether or not you're, But what kids are learning now We are in outrage culture. Everything should make you angry angry everything should make you upset

1:38:38 the shooting happens repeating history. I'm obsessed with Greek mythology. I'm obsessed with like Egyptian So does he believe, like, Jesus came back to life? it's not my shtick I guess do you think the media is So when, you know, when everyone's on the same page, or believing in your family or the family structure, You know, I'm not religious. because you're still going to,

1:41:59 Right? And I agree with you that people without religion try to find that structure and those rules and other things. It could be church. like swinging the pendulum corruption in both exactly amounts of corruption and that's my and and we know what happens. than we used to be. And if we keep moving hate and all the bullshit that we see in the world that can be prevented.

1:44:45 Over-medicating children. I literally like ice babysit a kid and like the mom would give them Adderall. know if something's wrong with him he's in school and he and he's not you know performing as well I totally agree with you. I am so anti. And you see that. There's this famous Kanye quote at math as somebody else. I think everybody has their own pieces of brilliant and that the current

1:46:49 They have to get this stupid grade Like, you know, I'm like, other ways to get, I mean. I know. the paradigm. but he, when you meet him, you understand he's just absolutely brilliant. Um, and, uh, we just I mean, that's really it. And you should look him up and figure out who he is because he's, in my opinion, he's I know, I know. That's scary to me.

1:49:26 I don't even... Right. Wikipedia never lies. You seem like a politician, but not 100%. politician I don't understand saying you're very good at it you you you've got a a well-oiled path there's it's a nice groove What I just said to you? And I'm like, dude, like now it's turned into like. YouTube followers every YouTuber suddenly was yes of course i dated black guys i'm not asking you i'm just saying like what would be the issue what would be the article i know i'm like what is the

1:52:16 yeah it was like banana what's it banana girl or something yeah there's a few of them or freely or Another cheerleading team all of a sudden. And I'm like, I was like, I don't want to be a YouTuber. no brand here. Then you have what I call Game of Conservatives. Can we not compete for the egos? Like Hillary, the globalist initiative, just this like, they were like communists.

1:54:06 Yeah, it's real. We were the gap like we lost them. This is what Trump understood. In what way? America has been losing. Let me clarify this. I don't at all believe. right but it's not about i just genuinely i've read a ton about it but i would not be able to i The vast majority. There are some that are not Bill Nye, who are not funded scientists. Mouthpiece.

1:57:43 Yeah. had to do with Bill Nye. of this planet. That means it's making money. I know you do, but I genuinely don't believe it like at all? I genuinely don't believe it. I know you do, but I genuinely don't believe it. Instead of looking for what you're searching for looking for what you're It's happening. The question is why it's happening. The issue is people think that human beings are exacerbating climate change to the point

2:00:23 where you can't ever stop it and pull it back. some sort of big business But here's what I was going to ask you. I don't believe it's real. You're correct. No. telling us a fucking politician right there's there's grossness to all that stuff right and Do you feel that you have found how to pull carbon They're figuring out a way. And as I said, like, I'm not so, the one thing you always find with me is I'll never pretend to be so educated on something.

2:03:47 91% of one of the studies from 2014. So my question to you is, if you want to step outside of the scientific consensus, No, it's not believe either or. You and I are just having a conversation. i was super passionate about It was like somebody posted something that is, like, these.orgs, Yes, it has. Global warming in particular has been politicized. 100% it has been politicized,

2:06:38 isn't real. Right. If you're one of those people issue got too politicized for me to believe that globalorg is someone that was being funded. So to me, the issue got too politicized And this is universally across the entire planet. And we're raising our CO2 levels. But what I'm saying is that you are a very smart person and people listen to you and they're going to listen to you for a long time, I would do all of that. I'm just not. I understand what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that you're a very smart person

2:08:40 when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. But I just said that. Okay, so you would prefer if my language, as opposed I don't believe in it. You're saying really clearly I always say I don't know. I don't know. somebody starts saying, oh, you need to form, and deciding whether or not That's all I've been trying to say I'm not sitting here to try to, I don't go on campus talking about global warming because I don't have an opinion on it.

2:10:54 But I think that I have a right to say that I don't believe in something, and you stated the reason why But I'm not sitting here saying like- No. Obama, I can't be fake. I'm telling you, You're a very influential person. Now it's going to be broken against global warming. I still don't feel like we're on the internet. I think the real fear is not even global warming.

2:12:44 I don't know. scientists that agree with everything we say. It's improving that Harvard And it causes mass fear. I err on the side of, okay, I don't know who those scientists are. But if you and I are having a discussion I'm open to learning And I said, I don't really know. And I said, I'm not a politician. It doesn't make any sense when you look at the numbers of, you know, black babies never even get the chance to live.

2:15:45 And that would be my stance if I was president of the United States. Do you want to be in the White House? That looks like a fun job? They're so serious. And I'm like, you take yourself seriously. Like, I feel like. Fuck I would. That's what I'm saying. It would be a fun job. No. They're so serious. Who's the press secretary now? It's one of those things.

2:17:05 I didn't start this a very ambitious person. I'm always good at my job. I'm not Republican. I would say I lean right. Yes, I just think it's a slippery slope. this is like something that Joe Rogan has forced on me. that could very well be funded as we... they're going to say he's a racist, sexist... Itist it's just whatever's put on the internet people believe as the truth

2:19:22 So forget that. I personally don't think the government should have gotten involved from a governing perspective which is fucking hilarious They shouldn't be. Well, the state has taken on something that traditionally was in the church. Is there any other right wing talking points? I don't know what the right, I don't even think about on the gay marriage thing. So what other ones don't you agree with? Is there any other right-wing talking points?

2:21:00 is because I'm really focused on the black community, dude. Mexico. That's not that's making America Mexico. That's a problem. You want to take in some more And we need to work Candace. That's what I'm hearing. No, he took it. I don't know. They're locked in my head. off facts and statistics and talk real someone to go against Trump. We need someone.

2:23:59 I don't like him whatsoever. Attack. in the black community. That's using fear that's been so controversial. I'm not the first black conservative to do this. I don't know. someone who has the audacity Seems like a nice guy. Seems very calm. And he just like got me. Like I feel vivacious and I see the change happening in the black community They assume I'm a registered Republican.

2:27:17 They're great people. I want you to meet them because I know the guy. want to work on the administration what if someone came along and said we got a sweet deal for you CNN or Fox News. Then I can't i mean you there's no better way to have your ideas expressed than to have no one that you're And I do support the president, but I don't want to go work in the administration.

2:29:37 angry like definitely an ideological war going on that it clouds a lot of thinking and who's winning I'm like, I'm not a product of the right. That's a very good message. Yes. We'll do this again sometime