Joe Rogan Experience #1129 — Tom Papa Transcript

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0:00 Young James ready to launch. You do have the discipline, you just have to focus it on that. You can do it. How long did had the discipline to write a book. You do have the discipline. Oh, okay. No. material alone oh there was a couple little things where they're like you know you're repeating So it's moms, dads, cousins, aunts, uncles, all broken down in chapters like that.

2:43 And you just decided to get wacky? He just... This guy is like this amazing photographer who's just done like Clooney and Damon and Yeah. Yeah, when you write a book you have to think man someone could be reading okay, Is the writing okay? It's funny and people are saying I can write. And just said, hey, you're doing something terrible for your future this is gonna be around for a long time well people are gonna refer to

5:09 No, I'm relieved. My editor said it's good. I would try and just work on that and make it. Wherever I was, whatever I was doing, I had to make sure that I had that time. So I'm just going to write it and spit it out. Do you know what Scrivener is? And you click on each subject, and there'll be a whole column. Like say if I'm doing a bid on desks, right?

8:21 oh that's great yeah that's really good yeah the organizing What I'm trying to say is I didn't have to keep track like a novel. Like, Colin Quinn came and did a book event with me a couple weeks ago. I mean, those are one-man shows. You could just peel stuff away all the time and get it as direct as possible. Jeez. It's all about family. I am going to write another one.

11:02 We're the number one new release in family humor. That would be a lot. This is the problem with family. Cunts. That's a whole chapter. On cunts. This is the problem with family. I think there might be one or two words. Yes. for just enjoy your life right don't don't turn it away don't get all balled up once in a while From doing your show, your fans are so awesome and started just sending pictures of their bread.

13:02 And visit bakeries when I was on the road. these Turkish families and Italian families or whatever, But after doing this, it just kind of exploded. New Orleans, New York, Detroit, L.A., Cleveland, Philadelphia, New York, Detroit, LA, Cleveland, Philadelphia, New Jersey, northern New Jersey, which is where I grew up. Now, that's my show. on television.

15:03 Well, just, it's just, I should come from something you love and something you didn't. No, it, Neil Brennan and I did a show in New Orleans. gonna bake cookies and they're an idiot fuck these people i'm gonna I was like, oh, shit, man. Yeah. that he had that in him? He was talking about That was so terrible. Yeah. He cooked. I'm like, I'm going to just try to catch myself with the world spinning.

19:06 Like he would only do that when he would be on the road. to find a local jujitsu club and trained with them in the morning she just trained with everybody i There's like, he was on anti-anxiety medication. He had a heart attack. Yeah. to a garbage man but he was uh explaining it to me yeah um the that there is an issue with this. And then whatever medications.

22:38 I mean, look, we have the highest suicide rate among middle-aged people in America than ever. have uh some particular type of infection they give you antibiotics if you have you know poison Or do you feel distant and detached? And I know a lot of people try to do it with exercise. I think the human body has physical requirements. We essentially have the same bodies as people that lived 10,000 years ago.

26:16 Terrible. got in put on my running shoes and just went for a run because i didn't want to sit and think about Because Friday when I got there, I'd worked out Thursday. And then I had two shows that night. I was with Santino and Tony Hinchcliffe. And the energy of that crowd. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've done gigs there in December and January. Yeah. He made me think of food as an art form yeah i never thought of as an art form before watching um no reservations

29:53 And they're passionate It's just they might as well be making music It's fascinating. It's interesting. I always want to try it. You know, 2 o'clock in the morning, they're baking. And that, like, it's enough of a Big Bang explosion of love that they stay in it for, like, you know, 10 years and make a business out of it. community right it wasn't when he lived there when he died but um but when i was a boy we would go um we would leave his house we want to visit and stay there we'd leave his house we'd walk like

33:00 you know there's that thing like when someone makes something really good in the community it changes the community because people will walk to get it in the morning yeah like just So is Rogan, what's his name? yeah yeah it's amazing so did they speak Italian yeah yeah they spoke dialect too oh yeah you would When I was a little kid, I'd go over the house.

34:25 My grandfather's name was Joseph. My family was very unoriginal. My father's name was Joseph. My grandfather's name is Joseph. Yeah, just grandma. I was always scared of marriage. Charlotte, Yes. Because during the depression, people just, they realized like, oh my God, Yeah. I know this sounds selfish, but I only thought of it in terms of America My grandparents came here

36:50 nothing and they would save everything every little piece every little something yep like because they haven't gone through no you can't you can't manufacture that for them my grandmother It was kind of crazy. And we all turn and you could just see it streaking across right into the, you know, small. like calm but freaked out. by and i'm on a in a cab going up the parkway in new jersey and

40:50 know it's a crazy world and uh I sit in her little tiny uh living room den area and we have the tv on I'm going to go play cards with my friends, that before yeah and you get nowhere so let's just keep going this way. But it's not like this evil empire that's invading Europe and dropping bombs on people. It's not these Nazis that believe in eugenics and want to create an Aryan race.

43:11 1930 something that was made for Hitler than the way the world is now. A hundred percent. god those were i mean and there's no reason to whitewash that either those were real monsters guys who were working for the company. He was frightened or whatever. You get on a flight. I mean, Oh my God, so we took a lot of those guys, Sweet little car. the plants you know being very proud about this car and stuff well here's a good way of looking

46:53 20 years. Googled it. Oh, the best. You think, bimp, bimp. Make them fast? back then, though, with their engineering. the French car Yeah. Yeah, it went terrible. 76, but by the time They just started looking like shit. Yeah, the design. Now, I want you to Google 1969 Mach 1. Yeah. If that doesn't get your dick hard, go to a doctor. Come on, man. Look how gorgeous that is.

50:59 Yeah, that yellow one. That was it. Oh, like Deuce of Hazzard style? Over. Is there a party? We all knew we were on channel four or whatever. Because they weren't thinking. I'm thinking about this now. You were ahead of the curve. I was having a blast. I was so happy to be out of the house. But isn't that amazing? And especially then, it was like the big trucking era.

52:50 Yeah, that's right. Ah. What are you doing to people? Who do you think you are The speed traps was like the third thing that they called each other out with. I remember that. That was recently. The guy's the worst. So arrogant. That says everything. Did he really? This extreme. And on the 4th of July... They call them slides? I just want to punch them

56:29 It's lazy. Flop, flop. But why? He's kind of gross. It's so gross. That's part of his thing. of your life? Just come on. I'm like, It's just, Including Jamie. I have something right there. No, you I judge people when I see them with Yeezys on. Yeah. Including Jamie. That was like six months ago, right? He gets it. That I'd run in them? in this fucking... People think I'm joking.

59:53 You got them and you're not even flossing. It's like they look like the sneaker version of that shitty Mustang from 1979. Yeah. That Kanye West has a large effect on humans. You will collect dust, motherfucker. Message me. and once it's done, put some time away. Yeah, what's up with that? Is that what it's called? It's a flamethrower thing? Jesus Christ.

1:02:28 and connect it and you run out of bullets yeah She doesn't even know what she's doing. You exercise with trigger control, too. He's making these gigawatt factories, these gigantic batteries that are powering Australia. She does not know how to handle that gun. right there. If it goes to the American one, That means when it rains. Why? The tunnels were in shape, but there's a big rock over the hole that gets you out of the tunnel.

1:05:05 You try walking, and you get clipped by some other guy on a Tesla going 120 miles an hour in the tunnel. Yeah, instead of your car getting in there. Well, he's got that. But this is the crazy thing. He's a comedy fan. That's the only, I saw him at some events. I know he is doing that, but he might not be the only person. Have you talked about 3D printing? A couple times, yeah. We've going to Mars. Yes. That's what I wanted to ask you. Ooh.

1:06:57 Do you know who has one? That guy. and he was on opie and anthony back in the day and he was taught he had like one of the earlier wow it's getting so crazy human cells human cells and they're making ears and yeah skin and It'll make a French press. people are getting you know there's all these these restaurants that are like kind of farm to table.

1:09:00 It's fine. You got a disease, bro? Like when we were kids? And the first thing that's evolving is women's hair. Like, the grooming standards that we've imposed on women, like, that culture's imposed on women. It's fucking crazy like yeah it's weird like the the grooming standards that we've imposed I mean, the standards. eyebrows and shit eyebrows some dudes sculpt their Some dude sculpted her eyebrows. Yeah.

1:11:20 No, it's, yeah, it's very bizarre. I always feel like, but they also like, it's empowering to feel good. Gotta be careful, though. She was screaming at an audience member, sons of bitches on stage nuclear meltdown fan hands are a hundred dollars to shut up she goes How long is it going to be before you can't say that word anymore? the like you'd have to call it the other f word yeah but the n word it's clearly established

1:13:50 Right. I can't even say bigger, but without a B with an N. So I guess this is a song that happens a lot. Yeah, I'll pull one up as we're talking about this. in reference to? That's not for you. Here, woman gets on stage. He set her up. Swear I got you. Am I not cool enough for you? Oh, I'm sorry. They're all up the thumbs down. We live in hilarious and preposterous times.

1:17:13 She loves him. Okay If there's a lot of people there, you can do it. And that was mostly white. and there was a... I had this whole thing where I was like, first of all, whatever that chick's on, she's not on pot. nigger. We're allowed to say it. You can't say it. I go, that's the gayest shit I've Hey, fuck you, stupid. Sometimes you can't say it. Right. Exactly. The ER is what gets you in trouble well look racism is disgusting all racism racism against chinese people racism against white people racism against every of course against

1:20:53 So racism is disgusting. like, what are we doing? like a word game. It's a little puzzle kind probably 20,000 people. Anyway, I'm very involved with the show. He loves all music. So it wasn't the N-word? He couldn't believe the hate that he got from it. yeah they they accused bruno mars of cultural appropriation what culture he's everything he's have to make sense this is the thing right they're just looking for targets yeah it doesn't have to

1:24:48 It's a mix of all of us, of everything that is good coming out. Is that culture appropriation? The other part of it is, how many people are really complaining about that stuff? People aren't saying, wow, I love that version because they just like it and they're normal people. didn't do anything else no history of sexual harassment sexual assault no history of anything

1:26:50 like him regardless of that oh so when it happens people kind of did they come after him harder than Yeah. Yeah. There's some justice, some street justice in that. A ton of it. Yeah. It is. is good and bad in the world but there's also people that are just very frustrated and looking She called that lady something like a cross between the Muslim brotherhood and

1:29:40 She said she didn't even know that woman was black. I'm not fucking stupid. And no one cares, though. No one cares. but it's totally off limits. It's not like somebody like Rachel Ray just making muffins and all of a sudden one tweet comes out. She grabs her crotch and spits on the ground. Not even the recent Planet of the Apes one. some gals who were athletes you called them nappyppy-headed hoes? Oh, yeah, of course. And that was like, whoa.

1:32:37 And you make some, but if you're a shit stirrer. And there's like, there's a sickness. I mean, it's, you know what I mean? That was in, if not our lifetime, just before we were born. in you that makes you feel like you need to tweet that off well if you're roseanne yeah that's her I don't like it. That's where I live. Yeah. that with new people jumping into the fray it's like if you want to have a fist fight with a mob

1:36:11 can't use that word it's like motherfucker you was saying it i watched you saying it no no i It's crazy. Yelling it. Who's actively saying, I mean, other than like white nationalist groups that everybody pretty much hates other than themselves i guess Oh, right. What are you thinking about people that aren't white? doors at 5.45 a.m. and removed by staff before students arrived for classes.

1:38:55 Do you disagree with the sentiment of that statement? Right. teach your spanish class and on your door is a sign that says okay to be white you just your I would lean towards that because it was Halloween night and they discovered this article was posted November 1st. Do I have to get some tape? who's a disgusting man right right and this is like the perfect example but that is literally

1:41:19 I'd have to read it. What's wrong with just? and you come back home and they yell at each other and you make a meal you know what i mean like why Well, and then there's also, I mean, there has to be a thought behind it, like that men Literally everyone. Yes. Every single. Well, everyone is different. Literally everyone. There's a lot of those guys, right?

1:43:22 All the time. that we need to be nice to each other we. This whole idea of this gotcha bullshit and this attacking people for things that don't sexism it's the same thing as racism it's the same it's the same thing why can't we hate men a sweetie. That guy seems awesome. That's a great picture. He's like, no. Could someone get spaghetti? Hey, make me a fucking pizza. Can't you just get what everybody

1:45:52 Yeah. Oh, anger. That's all I want. There's no Father's Day brunch. Actually, it's a pro-woman piece. I go, that bitch is one of those chicks that celebrates her birthday all month long. The whole month is father's month. Let me see your faces. Just a little squeeze and we're good. They have things there from 3,300 years ago. See, that's a bow and arrow that they had.

1:49:13 It's just not. we just thought it was a bow and arrow. here's what it says. It's a ceremonial bow. A compound I know, because it means a lot to you. be like, hey, you fucks. Oh. Oh, they're cool. You really got the sense that he was an inbred. Which is what they did. Jamie, pull up a photo of King Tut's skull. Like, there was something wrong with him.

1:52:36 I'm not sure. The archaeologists. That is the coolest. and they but then thieves found them there too jeez so so was that one like Oh, my God. The exhibit is really interesting because they had a glove, a linen glove that was 3,000 years old. And that it's not from 2500 BC, but it's from way before that, perhaps maybe 10,000 years older than that. of rain in a hurricane and that it just covered parts of the earth with lightning and killed everything

1:57:07 Sheets of lightning coming down like rain in a hurricane. It wasn't going through the earth to get to them. Is it a mainstream thing or is it his kind of... Caused a massive shift in the global temperature. structures africa or well there's some structures that have been absolutely linked to that time a Yeah. And then there was a big die-off in that for thousands of years, people essentially were knocked back almost down into the Stone Age and then regrouped.

2:00:55 Of rain. Yeah, like this build on top. They don't know where that old thing, where it's from. That's amazing. That's established Egyptologists, archaeologists. Yeah, it's amazing. like high coronal mean go back to that this is a different thing though coronal mass injections. What's coronal mean? Go back to that. I don't know. It's not letting me go back to it.

2:03:53 Then he can't go back. Business Insider, isn't it? Oh, yeah? All the electric would interesting um if not the same way in in a similar way yeah i mean some of the people survived right That's what's interesting. That civil turmoil, then the pharaohs lost their power. Africa over inside Africa yeah if you look at yeah the Nubians took over Egypt The Nile is a river.

2:07:27 and was unbelievably lush, so incredibly fertile. Yeah, that would be a cool... i mean these fucking statues of the pharaohs are so big that you see these little tiny people Yeah. And they don't have any opportunity and they're in a terrible place and it's just a really, you and i yeah we're kind of dumb right let's be honest yeah not that bright yeah we're not

2:10:02 kind of happen and everybody else could be really smart, And it could have been a slow process, too, because you're dealing with thousands of years of Especially if you let Elon Musk make his tunnels everywhere. Missouri Territory. Yeah. The whole Northwest. Is it? That's where Detroit and all that stuff is Everyone's just grabbing. and then you go above Massachusetts where Massachusetts is. Yeah.

2:12:59 Look at that. Right. Wow, look at all that, man. It's so brutal. Oh, really? Yeah, your little fucking, the little guy with his club foot. Think of that. Yeah. worship that they had. Yeah. It was really common. eh, I'm going to move to the city. It's so bad. And there's a guy, I think his name was mall um it was this giant That's how they made their living.

2:17:03 Because just after this had all happened. Imagine how little you knew what was going on back then. No one knew anything back then. Nothing. two performances daily weird and startling free street parade look at that name calamity jane i Yeah. Especially, like you said, having the real guy there who you know could at one point We make money. Yes. All of this just happened.

2:20:05 Yeah. They probably all died of fucking herpes or something. for decades When you think about during the Depression. You know what's really fucked up, dude? When was he traipsing around? Well, when did he live? Removing it. nigger jim yeah that was his friend yeah yeah that they removed that the n-word really yeah Old Twain. He was funny. word with slave um appears in the book more than 200 times was a common racial epithet of, okay, duh,

2:23:51 Splash Mountain at Disneyland, which was based on a really racist old cartoon that you can't Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's all these singing ducks. Well, what is it? I think it's called Song of the South. There was a lot of bad stuff back then. Is this racist? I think the reason why you can get this online So, Song of the South. See if you can find Song of the South.

2:26:05 Maybe it wasn't. on the Song of the South. What does it say about it? Status, true. Briar Fox, Briar Bear. So that was the idea that they're stuck in briars? that's kind of interesting especially when you talk about the when you talk about uh the um that this is talking rationally this is history yeah right exactly rational right there's no mainstream media that have abused and violated and victimized women yeah and that it's going

2:30:01 Yeah. Nicole Kidman. It's everything. with a white trench coat. Slanging dick and money, I was on And there's all these layers and piano tunes and keys. Oh, Yeah, a real artist. Super original. Right? I don't know. That's right. VH1. Or maybe that's on E. Why did he have face bubbles? People are still asking. Oh, wow. I don't even know what it is. It's too moody.

2:35:03 He's getting his feelings out kind of stuff. I've listened to him. I try, but you know. I don't even know Gangstar. Grateful Dead? Do yourself a favor. They were great. Three feet high and rising. Yeah. Three. What? but it's a very old white guy way of doing it. I don't think that's enough to kill kendrick Right, exactly. I like Killer Mike. They have been making movies since whenever the fuck they started making movies.

2:39:06 Ten years off. Dude. Yeah. Let's play the trailer. Sometimes they give you too much, though. For a trailer? That is a scary dollhouse. It made it look like a real room. The Witch, which I didn't see. What? Ooh, she looks good. This looks good. I just don't want to put any more stress on my family. We just said, Whenever I can. My father said that to me the other day.

2:42:46 Was it Black Panther? But does it make sense that he would have walked out of that so quick? Maybe once. Yeah. I mean, all of the crazy talk show stuff aside, that guy is amazing. Yes. If you can harness it. Cruise. He does a bunch of shit. Yeah, it's pretty badass. Of course they're doing a third one. but he has to keep redoing the scene. so I don't remember.

2:45:15 What year did it come out? talking about matt have you done the research i've done the research yeah you're glib matt That's a crazy thing to say, that you're smarter than all these biologists and Did I ever tell you the first time I did Letterman when Cruz was on it? it's just like any other show and he's on like saying hi to people And then they bring you downstairs and you're standing outside this door like to go onto the stage.

2:47:16 This is terrifying. when he gets into that like I'm laughing caused death or anything. How's my tie? Play that. 2014. I loved that movie. Yeah, me too. Here, play some of that. And I want to see her do well. You see, here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. He is pretty aggressive on Lauer. Abuse just because someone abuses it doesn't mean it doesn't have uses

2:51:21 Yeah, it's like super high. I understand it. They just didn't want to deal with it. put the kid on riddling it's terrible they were there's something wrong with this child. Yeah. But that's what we need. We need robots. We need Do you think in our lifetime someone's going to fly to Mars and live there? No, you won't be able to do sets up there. Yeah, there's no energy transfer.

2:53:38 and then bang them. We're setting up pretty cool it is oh it's great yeah if your grandpa needs a liver and you want to keep grandpa Dude, watch these people riding the highway. kids were born yeah i went around the whole Get a nice bike up there. It's one of those things that you're just so focused on you forget about the whole rest of the world. No, especially here.

2:56:25 listen to the news and i have a sinatra station a coltrane station um yeah music you know i'm a funny my little one's the same way yeah well they realize that's how they get attention yeah you To mock you. yeah i know it's hilarious they mock that i can't see any glasses yeah cute daddy's dying ha ha They don't even have a phone. My eyesight is killer.

2:58:37 oh, yeah, you swipe right. so you go down the bottom. She's doing okay. That's hilarious. And you'll be like with this new baby that they made. Bye. I'm working. I know that's one thing I'm not doing. Yeah. Because if you can do that, then you never have that feeling that most people have when it comes to work. to try to make that luck happen. or not that's the best thing you can do yeah you don't know where it's going to leave it at least

3:02:07 half-assed connection to the words they're saying. How many hours at a time did you do these sessions? It's different here than three hours somewhere else. It's different. Yeah. well thanks joe you're a beautiful man you too man i'm sure your book's hilarious although i Woo.