Joe Rogan Experience #1131 — Dave Rubin Transcript

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0:00 Five, four, three, two, Dave Rubin, ladies and gentlemen. Squirrely. I mean, people are You know, I'm on tour with Peterson right now. There's something happening where people are going, It's weird. It's probably split. First off, they always go, well, it's angry white men. That crowds have been incredible. It's probably split. good about loves you or blah, blah, blah. And I'm just here, but then they all have a great time. I mean,

3:20 Every street we walk down, people high-fiving us, saying hi. It's not that they lie a little bit like a little lie. He's not a transphobe. 15 minutes of standup up top. bust out their phones So it makes more sense to focus on that. The little sliver of it that's on the right, Are all racists right? I know about Joe Rogan because I watch the show. black person, a black person would be sitting there or a Muslim person would be sitting there

5:53 Hold on a second. That's not really the identity politics we start saying, oh, it's the left that's doing this. It's the right that's doing this. I think much sense anymore. so that people- Right. I mean their shit. Why would we ever think that elected officials, these people that are, for the most part, full of shit. I don't know any of them. You know

8:15 How to stuff a takedown You could do the people that I like these days, that I get along with, that I think are fair and decent and there is some utility for the state. But the more I do this, the more I have these conversations, live exactly the same no matter where we are geographically, no matter what our religion or I own property. That's the beauty, right?

11:25 certainly all of the Democrats, like how so? If you if you really care about marijuana and you live in Alabama right now and it's not legal, guess what? in taxes and all this stuff. That's about, and then protect the borders. No, I'm hearing what you're saying, but I'm just hearing this this clamoring for the government to take care of everything i mean you hear you

13:30 You're going to have more jobs. It's like they look, you want to give free college education to everyone. So they should at least be honest and say that because a certain amount of people just hear free and you just think it's free. Well, then all these businesses are just going to figure out ways, which they should do. to pay your guys this amount.

15:15 I don't want people to work for me for free. I think we get real. who got in trouble recently. there's a lot of really wacky professors out there that do have tenure yeah that woman was tweeting Yeah. hot button stuff. So I don't even know that they all were there to protest me specifically. But Yeah. Yeah. It's just a different- instead of me. What's that phrase, man? The show must go on?

18:48 But think how they affect the majority. So Candace and the other guy are gone. Like what is he going to say? I don't think I'm some massive intellectual. so think how absurd this think how absurd this is 300 people yeah and this happens at every college thing. Nobody knows who's in charge anymore. It's just like this big clusterfuck. So anyway, so they put up, you know,

21:01 you know, 6,000 seats. Seriously. Why? Yeah. I mean, that's for, for them to figure out why they did that. But anyway, 7,000 empty seats. I do my thing. who's pro-euthanasia, Well, so it's not those guys mad. It's the other 50. We're not the problem or just some other nonsense. And they can't respond. And 99.9% of people in America right now have it better than their grandparents had it.

22:43 it's a drug. That is what I want for you. I mean, so that's where, when people think it's this little thing, it's, yeah, it's this People can, you know- Yeah, it was like when the girl was shaking the jar of coins, I was like, oh. the fuck up and it got a big laugh and then i repeated it a couple times but then i realized Dude, after a half hour, I opened it up for Q&A.

25:20 And I think her last thing was, i hate you or something to that effect the authorities guys, don't worry about it. I did not want it to be released I don't think one screaming lunatic who did not come to respect me, edited that made it seem like I was doing things that I wasn't like I was silencing them or just which I refuse to be, worst way to communicate you're demonstrating that your thinking sucks

27:49 Now as a woman. But also you're woke enough to actually identify there is a problem here with what's happening in the mainstream. So what's your policy on that? I look, a lot of people were pissed. You, you smoke pot with Jones, right? You smoke pot with I would have been like, the fuck are you talking about? there was something that Harvey had done to his victims where he was trying to

31:31 in her battle with Harvey Weinstein. People don't understand that Harvey Weinstein's business is going bankrupt. I mean, this is fucking stupid. And I think it's really disrespectful it is, man. It's the Illuminati. The second her operatives wrath okay I don't know but he was the thing is Hillary Clinton was before the Meryl Streep cuddling up with him.

33:27 since 1998. And I think he loves conspiracies. in particular about when they were using agent provocateurs to disrupt protests and make them The way you do that, you have these guys wear masks, they go in, they pretend they're one Well, there's a lot of people saying that's happening with the Tommy Robinson protests I'm going to back away. So I don't want to do this as if I'm the freaking lawyer of the whole thing, but in effect,

35:55 No. No, I know. Like people go, how come you're not commenting on this? Oh, you talk all day long about this and that, but then this comes up and you don't hear that you're either cynical or stupid. We can probably find the line, This idea of giving someone a platform, like I'm going to have I don't agree with a lot of it. jones or mike cernovich and take him seriously there's a high probability that you're either

38:30 Back before everybody knew who he was, too. We could go places. When I talked to him, I wanted to do it with my crazy friend, Eddie Bravo, because he believes I could see why you like that guy. I can see why he's fun. We had a good time together She's defending her position. I don't. That's ridiculous. He was captured by the Nazis. Look, Larry King, this is the one thing I always say. It's like Larry King in his heyday. Think of the prime Larry King, right? So 1991 CNN primetime.

41:16 both do a hell of a fucking professional show that i think we're both really proud of um i think And I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. I talk to a lot of people. It's awesome. Like I'm I'm doing it at, I think, a lower level than you are. Hancock on and uh you know next thing you know I've got Bourdain on and I've got Graham Hancock on. And, you know, next thing you know, I've got Bourdain on.

43:45 Oh, that guy sounds cool. I want to talk to Peter Schiff. You learn conversation. of hate that I'll get online for this or that, or just, you know, it's the same thing. It's just Dave Rubin sucks. That's the part of the problem is you're sort of indulging it by paying attention to it. I was just in one of these infrared saunas. No TV, no nothing. I am completely shutting down.

46:31 What is the PragerU video? et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And so I did one, it was about a year and a half ago, that I always believed in. So the fact that they did that first half hour, I was like, fuck, like, basically lead you to being happy because I think that's actually the only way that you can be happy Everything else is somebody else's fault.

48:52 and it's somebody else's fault. this life. Right. Now I happen to be the- a picture yesterday there was a chick-fil-a next door to uh to the theater we were at i took a It's ruining the fabric of society. But if you think they hate gay people that much, then don't shop there. Not that I know of. know either i don't know i'm just but he clearly is an influencer and i think that the cash app if i had to guess because they sponsor this podcast they're very active in sponsoring podcasts they

52:54 Hello. And I simply don't believe that. You can't force me to bake a cake or do any of those things. They got so silly with that that it made sense that someone was pushing back. When was that? Who is? That makes total sense. Well, look, he's a guy promoting something on one of the things that he owns. That's it. All right. So he's a tricky one that's that's different well look he's a guy promoting something

55:08 Yeah, I think it is every time I've- the Sunday chicken sandwich When you've gone into Chick-fil-A They don't look at you and go And the Jordan Peterson thing has been very illuminating to me because I've watched them misrepresent his positions on so many different things and call him so many horrible names, transphobic, racist, alt-right, all these

56:21 Yeah. You know, that bothers me more than anything. I don't know. or you shouldn't be able to do that. Every single woman. a whole bit about it yeah about women on fox news versus men on fox news watching it with the sound I agree that it is a loud minority. thing. I mean, he's willing to look at all the various aspects of them because as a legitimate intellectual,

59:57 the fuck we're at work here. The problem is framing it as if he's saying you shouldn't be able to. So when they write all these hit pieces, Oh, there's a guy out here who's sold over a million copies of his book, who's on tour I'm still here. I have exposed them and I'm still here and if anything I'm bigger because of it and now one of them was a guy who's

1:01:56 I'm going to go, oh, this is that silly fuck that had that dumb idea about Jordan Peterson Just try to go back over it and see if it made any sense to me. I mean, that's what they need but I'm telling you man this tour however many hundreds of thousands of people are watching this or listening to this right these people look good. They dress right. Like I'm not to make it all about material stuff,

1:04:20 if I was there with the two of them, I could have worked it out when that whole truth thing yeah that they bounded back and forth for an hour on the meaning of truth i i wish i was valid you know you you let guys like them discuss them. But think how cool that is that two of them are some of our leading public intellectuals in the country, in the world probably.

1:05:44 It's like everything they're doing doing they're trying to get ratings anytime there's a big story in the interrupt and yell things out. But if you just look at any of these journalists, Twitter feeds, it's like pretty obvious what That's the reason why they're here in the first place. Like, hmm, I might like you, Dave. How do you feel about Hillary Clinton? Cause I'm pro Clinton. I

1:08:28 And that's Hollywood. The other one. He's got a giant dick. He's probably like, I don't give a fuck anymore. why doing this was the right thing to do? Dave Rubin. many just different competing interests and business interests and political interests and Like, okay. If you're a straight man, you shouldn't talk about gay rights. thing came out in the times that was calling you a conservative and i think i i think i emailed it

1:11:39 Oh, pro-Second Amendment. You have to be in the pattern. And I don't mean it win like we're going to destroy these people. why the hysteria has been ramped up. They can't believe that out of nowhere, just because of our Me and Shapiro were joking around about it. Like, when I do his show or he does my- I really enjoy that guy. People are mad at me with the way I dressed.

1:14:01 Yeah, I should be in a bush. That's how I was That's who I am. He's trying to get me to you on the whatsapp Yeah. Intellectual curiosity for sure. you know i think we both are intellectually curious yeah so think about it i've had ben or you know and then they treat him who's that guy Well, now he takes the libertarian position, which is the government shouldn't be involved.

1:16:48 I was 13. This fucking grown up old lady with grandchildren is telling people that she's not If all of this stuff that we're talking about keeps winning, if it all keeps winning, what with having them in town squares and celebrating them, but there's also a problem in that they them down and replacing them with something else and putting them somewhere else like if you want

1:19:04 Trump said that and people were ridiculing him. And because they took down the Robert E. Lee one, Thomas Jefferson, you can go to his house in Monticello, and they do, if you go on the The most incredible thing that a that a leader of a country could do. And he had his slaves his entire life. It's like, so should we. against gay marriage the first time. And all of these things, there is more that we start thinking that, the more we'll eventually come after Obama for running against gay marriage the first time and all of these things. There is something that we

1:21:33 They're doing it right now. Well, I mean, there's a couple of things. But he was saying the things that people wanted to hear. 2005? unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, of legals who enter the United States after checks and with access to labor rights. Part Think about what he said there. We cannot allow illegals to pour in.

1:25:30 And it seems like it shouldn't be because it was only 13 years ago. This is fucking bullshit. You know, people should be able to do whatever they want or whatever, find someone you've never heard of that is different than what Trump is trying to do right now? Does Trump use sloppy language? Yes. So like they'll say, okay, you know, just in the last couple of days with North Korea that Trump said, I've been traveling a lot. So like getting the exact quote will be tough,

1:27:33 I have no freaking clue. him. I used to want to be on the show. I've kind of moved past that at this point, but think about I hope he evolves his ideas as a human being. I hope he does amazingly well and turns the country around. I hope he evolves his ideas as a human being. They were in the middle of a horrible recession, and this guy came along that proposed a solution.

1:29:16 guy that's running the country. over all this russian stuff i still am not convinced that he did anything horrible even if he's hated across the board. I hope he does an amazing job and I hope the economy soars I don't think under his watch, there may be some level of some peace now in the North Korean peninsula. And then he gets to have a meeting with the guy.

1:31:30 And if part of that was helped in some way by Trump being crazy, who are really scary who don't talk about peace that often, who don't, who talk about exercising our power and all of that stuff so that Kim Jong-un we should be cutting all military and never doing anything, blah, blah, blah. In which Like if you remove the Twitter hysteria, like remove just like hysteria stuff,

1:33:43 Most don't agree with that, but I've had probably more libertarian-leaning economists in general. and he's the lucky guy and maybe he's going to get it to the next thing. But what I'm actually more When I was in DC the other day, I was at a small dinner with a pretty influential senator who You won't always need the icebreaker. lot of decent that's coming right now, but I think there's some people

1:35:58 of what reality is and anything And that strengthens the position. It helps people like us to just talk about stuff and don't mind and i think a lot of it is because there's a lot of I'm an optimist by nature, I think most of us would have preferred a panther. We kind of wanted something to walk through, And that if that means that he gets in for another four years and continues to do good things,

1:40:09 the more frantic the people on the radical left and what they call the regressive left, killed because of Hitler that he didn't directly kill. Now, if you keep doing that with Trump and then someone plays that Barack That's that socialist t-shirt, like, you know, socialism smiley face. rooted that you should, that even today, did you see this, that Harvard, I just tweeted out when I

1:42:38 let's say you're hiring today, right? I'm all about diversity. they tend to just put their fucking nose to the grindstone and keep kicking they have succeeded at every level that we measure success. businesses, busted their ass, worked in coal mines, et cetera, wherever you had to do it. So I see all these minorities, by the way. Because I think she could be a direct line to all of the political parts of this if she decides to go that route.

1:44:44 I'm not high today. I'm only smoking maybe once a week on Sundays. And now I'm on? Yeah. I'm not high. I'm not high today. Yeah. Because I don't think she should run for Senate. I'm going to ask you again if you're high and you need to be honest with me. Okay. That is an issue. Yeah. Talk to my friends, Larry Elder. that came here legally, they're actually not as thrilled with illegal immigration as the media may

1:47:16 the thing that people are always worried about. Well, if you go that way, you're throwing your If he was here, like he'd probably want to spark up a joint. You're talking about the gay couple that wanted a wedding cake made? No, they wanted a story. people. But the idea that government's going to step in, it seems crazy to me. But then as soon So apparently the conversation actually never got to that point because he denied them before that

1:50:24 that basically If there was a Jewish artist who took commissions for paintings, would you force that person They're not allowed. government should then come in and tell this man what to do, I would not be for that. And but the government can't protect you from shitty. We would all love there to be not all of us, but most sane people don't want racism to exist. But should we

1:53:02 call it, if you're doing that and you live in Alabama and there's only one baker there whatever worth you bring to a community I mean, every horror in human history is a government doing things, basically, you know, as long as governments have pretty much existed. and their religion discriminates against gay people, I really do think they have moved.

1:55:04 They weren't going for extra rights for anyone. Now they're going for extra rights because we Yeah. You've done everything right as a citizen And like when do you decide that someone has too much money or what's the standard? There's a certain line that you're going to cross where you shouldn't be more successful because they're going to tax you harder.

1:57:11 And now in the greater good, which is which is a phrase that sounds really good, but is but is your face pretty much summed it up. Is that this thing doesn't have accountability and that it does waste a shitload of money. get me, get the government to solve this. You'd still get mail. And between UPS and FedEx and Amazon and drones and blah, blah, blah, and DHL, they'd all start,

1:58:50 The USPS has been doing that for about a hundred years. that if the USPS stopped, for them to be eliminated. But generally- third world countries and look at construction methods. They're fucking dangerous. better work. to save as much time and energy and money as you can. But I don't think it's the government. I've been in construction since I was a little kid.

2:01:33 or people that have been involved in construction going to affect the person on this one lot. Like if a fire starts, it burns all the houses in the I agree. fuck they're looking for. Most people getting a house built, they have no idea about construction You know what I mean? support like all that stuff has to be done by people who understand code construction projects where I had to explain to people

2:04:42 done correctly. Do you think Like if someone is, if someone is building something and they're I get it. No, those ayn rand people are fucking harsh they like ideas man those are they're in rational self-interest, It's like proclaiming it is the thing that people go, Well, that's good. this comes in so those guys I don't want to speak for who gets you in trouble if

2:07:48 So that's where the regulation comes in. Of course. Right. Well, it's illegal to dump things into the river. So what those guys would argue is what I said before, which is that ultimately, Coal miners that were breathing all kinds of horrible shit that nobody was ever going Yeah, I know what you're saying there. But I do think that obviously there has to be laws in place,

2:10:21 people should be locked up and go to jail. If they find out that someone's dumping toxic waste into the river because it's too expensive to process it and get it removed and I'm not a fan of putting more people in jail generally. for life for non-violent drug offense right yeah and think how many other people are like her for Prescription drugs all day long.

2:12:26 And then you think about how many people that are in jail right now for marijuana, how many eating it, you know, literally just being unable to control what you're doing while you're on Ambien, being in this zombie-like state. I mean, I know her a little bit. You know. responsible for those side effects is where it gets into uh the realm of personal responsibility

2:14:45 preemptively guy and a girl got yeah had sex and the guy called the police and wanted her If we don't stop this out of control monster, and they were doing it with the intention of raping them due process, which is perhaps the most important piece of a functioning Western free society, That's something that Obama brought in that Trump actually got rid of,

2:17:08 Not Jamie. You are drunk. Right. Congratulations, buddy. board. It's far more ridiculous though when a guy is accusing, and let's just be honest about this, In my opinion, that's rape. All right. let's just, She she seriously it was some high-level roofie shit. I was like girl in college. Really? Yeah. Now I'm married to a dude. So who the hell knows what's going on? Maybe she fucked your brain up.

2:19:41 I don't know who did it. you know, you know, something's not right, but you're like, at least what happened to me was I just couldn't like put all the pieces How do you say that? I've tripped, I've done acid. I was just in this like, my body kind of couldn't move, you know, a little aura kind of stuff, Suck it up. If she roofies the guy and has sex, especially what if the guy has a girlfriend and he doesn't want to have sex with her or fill in the blank.

2:22:05 I've definitely heard of the first part, and this one story about a man Not willingly got drunk. Yeah. He's the reason I got into comedy. so fucked. Like how could he, how could he be that guy? How could he be the guy who's so funny are the same people that are doing all this weird shit. I mean, someone who's doing this into his fucking 60s, Yeah, whatever it is.

2:25:10 Fuck off. Well, part of it is that it's gross that it's all public, right? the underlying philosophical ideas that matter, not the specifics of this kid. Like, I never call them out specifically like that guy. In a very perverse way. It's not because I hated him. And they're idealistic or they're young and evolving their thoughts and haven't talked about publicly before.

2:28:09 Great. He looks so much better, even than probably last time he was here, maybe what, every place, chops it up, eats meat. everything and lost like huge patches back of my head, up top, like all over the place. So I had, Reduces the inflammation that's causing it to fall out. experimental stuff and literally for two years virtually my entire body was broken out like

2:31:17 And like, I was extremely sensitive to heat and light. with Jordan is just this interesting idea of sort of as you're succeeding and as you're doing what Yeah. It's not, it's not easy to handle. Are you a prophet? it really it's like and then i think i said it before but like the whole thing is like this love You know what's good about those people?

2:34:27 And I think if you go over all of your material and all of your ideas from the perspective of someone is watching them right now trying to find fault in everything that you do. But no, as long as you – it's undeniable to you. So they have this sort of real – this very rigid ideology that they're trying to put And often it is people of color who need it more. So you inherently are racist. You have to think

2:36:39 Yeah. Well, what do you think his definition of enforced monogamy is just to be clear? The idea is that there's a bunch of men out there Forget about what he did to those women, the rapes or the sexual assaults. It happened through success and confidence and whatever the fuck else he's got, you know, intellect. I just don't think that enforced monogamy has any factor whatsoever in that.

2:38:15 he would use a different phrase. get your shit together and martial arts i think is one of the best ways to do that i've seen so i think he would too everywhere that you just said there yeah yeah i just think that marriage is not also helping women, but yes, he is helping men get their shit together. They need framework for sure. You don't appreciate rest when you're fucking off all day.

2:40:33 department? Yeah. And I'm not insecure in that. working on my standup, it's an option. That's not an option. Oh shit. Now I'm a purple belt. And that's how you become a black belt. Yeah. You just, you know, and I got- Like, fuck. But every fucking time I go to yoga class, I'm like, oh, Jesus, 90 minutes in a 104 degree temperature with all these women that are going to humiliate me.

2:43:07 It's just, you know, it's never easy to do. You get some satisfaction that, It's the hardest thing. And so many people have a hard time doing it. I'll be like, oh, Joe Rogan got me into this. Like, obviously, I do all these things. But how the fuck doesn't everybody already know? They do now. More people know man. But how the fuck doesn't everybody already know?

2:45:20 I get it. It's nice. times. And now they're everywhere all over the planet. And that somehow or another, to take these positions that are not wrong, but are just politically incorrect or somewhat unpopular or controversial. And by taking those positions, I just did it. It's not like all these people went and tried it out. out of there with a fresh perspective. My body feels loose and relaxed. This is crazy. It's like,

2:48:17 But do you have a trick for that when you get in there? Yeah. My weed thing is like end of the night, puff from my vape pen, like watch the same Simpsons episode that I loved in 1989. they never smoked pot before and then they're in a k-hole in the corner life something something around there and then i haven't done it in about 15 years. Oh, you fucking pussies.

2:50:49 It was after dinner and we were just all hanging out. Nothing's working. So you mocked me, but one cap can do the trick. Yeah. eight bit run one way. And I definitely don't want to run this way. see subconsciously you give it to them. Everybody needs a hug. And when things pop up and people write things, just go, okay, what am I going to do? is because i know there's a bunch of people that are getting babysitters and they they're they're

2:53:53 doing the comedy store. I do that all the time, man. I do that all the time. And my drive is to, this time you guys had a good time i had a good time i'm super happy there's Yeah, whereas it wasn't before. I mean, it's like I'm getting back to this thing that people don't know me from. Blah, blah, blah. and I don't know anyone that's doing it the way that I'm doing it and it's not like I'm doing a

2:56:33 Now I got Sam Harris. Well, thank you, man. We'll do your show. Thank you.