Joe Rogan Experience #1137 — Duncan Trussell Transcript

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0:00 I'm teaching Duncan the ways of a Windows laptop. And it magically unfolds. Find out if your MacBook qualifies for Apple's keyboard repair program. bit of a dip to them might as well be, you might as well be they're they're ignoring like a basic human trait which is like have you seen I like the sound, the flutter of the keys as you're writing. you that you even need a new one outside of the fact that it's new whoever you are young lady

3:17 perpetually love Apple. She's quitting. Yeah. Sure, Mark. Can't do that. Hell no. You can't wink you can't do i i you know i'm we're both we have cool jobs dude so like i have to imagine that Dude, this is it, man. Didn't mean to do a southern accent, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. And it's too easy out just like ah cool yeah that's a cool thing i think psychedelics

7:48 Funding! It could be that he's had terrible experiences with psychedelics. Oh, yeah. because this fucking asshole decided to eat the entire bag of mushrooms. A lot of them. and you start throwing out there this like idea that is not only fundamentally wrong, it's fundamentally wrong in everything as far as I'm concerned, which is there's not really a one cure to your troubles.

10:57 dude, I had this moment where this, some parents came up to me and were, did I tell you about this? They came in to talk to me at a show and they were like, But anyway, the kid went and did ayahuasca in Peru. But then he came home So people look at you like you're crazy. And then there's also, you know, there's real problems that people have with being tested at work.

13:34 You probably don't dig the gig anyway. this cup and give me a little sample of your body fluids. Yeah. And, like... Oh. Wow. have to they have to look at like your they have to scan your ass and like oh the print changed He's like an anthropologist, so he's very precise. corporations and companies scanning your piss to see if you're taking a substance that is allowing

17:44 lie all day. And you know what psychedelic means? The etymology of psychedelic? us to home, they don't want us to be in those states and they're asking us to fucking lie you're efficient you get your job done in 45 minutes and for the next six hours you got to sit But you have to be there to get paid. And they're kind of sitting in front of their keyboard with earbuds on, just barely paying attention, trying not to get caught looking at porn.

20:05 companies start going oh yeah we didn't know about that yeah you can't look at that dude i mean i'm the ability to just go and download it. in this bathroom with jerk off just so i don't have to think about this stupid fucking job. And everyone knows. you imagine you work with some guy and he's like 300 pounds and you're like 150 pounds You're expelling like foul smelling toxins from your body into the toilet.

22:14 Like, And yet jerking off really, just with an itchy trigger finger, that the worker has now the Talmud and did it for like 12 doesn't make sense because everything in here actual translation thing than a dragon to represent Like some sort of plasma thing that just jizzes all over you. No fap, not anti-fap. Anti-fap movement? Fap. F-A-P. Oh, no jerking off? Yeah. No fap.

25:46 and have sex with people you don't really like but you think are hot because you're horny. what do you think about it? and you'd come to do your podcast and you'd walk away with a fleshlight. It was really not. Yeah. personally yeah it feels a little dissipative when you're doing it a lot there is this i don't know no i completely agree It's like a very potent energetic state.

28:54 What do you think? and mindfulness and just trying to i mean it's not that's all those are toxic words right now about the nature of it but uh and i remember looking at that and being like oh i guess people Because it's like it becomes popular popular and then people start using it. Yes. with a actual uh teacher of the kagu lineage of buddhism which is like Chogyam Trungpa's lineage of Buddhism.

32:05 Right. the way that you sit, which is you sit on a cushion, which happens, of course, because what's all these, is you realize like, oh, there's a cycle happening in my consciousness, in my mind. There's a cycle you've been thinking for three years straight, you know what I mean? Or three minutes or five I was totally up in my head. I've come up with this thing that I bring up all the time, the momentum of your past.

36:20 past you know people sort of uh they get into this thing of defining themselves And it's painful to look at yourself. because you're protecting your ego. The more you avoid those and don't take credit for the ones that you actually fucked So in your head, you're the guy who lies about making mistakes instead of you're the guy who mans up to your mistakes, realizes it was a mistake, and then vows to do better.

37:43 Just look at yourself critically along the time. Not just when you fuck up because you can avoid some of those fuck ups. Just look at yourself critically along the way. because it's a ridiculous Like why do we give up on people? You say, he just needs discipline. You're still thinking about yourself only deep into your 60s. and companionship and friendship and

39:20 Because this is literally what you're working towards. You die and that's it. So that momentum keeps going. We have proclivities and tendencies and habituations. you know what I mean? So that's the momentum. You got hooked by that bug. big, deep breath and you blow it out and you look at the other fellow cancer Dodgers and they're planting certain types of seeds in any type of field and i cultivate those seeds, they're going to grow into something, right? That's karma. So for a person, when the

43:32 calmest moments i sure get really angry all the time i don't know if this is normal right a lot But it's like that's what you are right now and You can cultivate it. God. you've got the freedom big tobacco own gene therapy Like, I've smoked a cigarette before, and it gives you a head rush. it's somehow It wraps around your favorite thing in life and tricks you.

47:29 Yeah, like that. Oh, my God. dude there is just too much to know there's too much cool shit a lot of shit out there too much They're offering you a cooler look, but here's what hey you want to look at your boring ass fucking gray bark Like vibrant flow green. Maybe. Right. Like, I don't know if you're aware of this rapper who died named Lil Peep. yeah and if they so so they they don't only have to like worry about like you know being fat they

51:14 I heard someone say that to him. yeah i'm your comfort blanket yeah yeah when you're all alone when you're drinking alone in You're like, you're tricking yourself. Don't like as you're plummeting towards splattering all over the fucking ground, pretend that you're flying towards the earth. Yeah, dude. true or not but obviously it's probably not true but i got this crazy idea that like and again like

54:33 And it's beautiful, his writing. usually a kind of message, right? And the message is usually something along the lines of, That's it. And what happens is, from time to time, a big crack in the dam opens up, right? because over on this side of things, can't seal them up anymore it's like you can't seal the fucking dam anymore and the people have been trying to stop.

58:18 No, no, no. Okay, nice to meet you, finally. Okay. Do you mind if I show you David Nutt's, I'm not interested in harmful, sir. Huh? You understand that? Oxycontin. So devil and devil's eye. place known as the galactic, you can call it whatever the fuck you want, but it's the aliens. country's economy healthy eventually we'll get our portal Here's a great term, on time, right?

1:03:25 Yeah, we can call it that with like less of the power. Like, do you ever talk to somebody who works on video games? They're all living on top of each other. You're asking for someone's whole life. um i guess you could say what a capitalist commune or i don't know what you'd call it's Look at you. Let me see God of War. It's so good, man. Look how good that is. Kratos.

1:06:31 incredible it's amazing she's so hot she's very hot i know the do you think you could hang out and the acting is really good and like the relationships between characters are and you get really into it. example of a company versus a company where you're like either doing something that you don't even it ever came out. I was with you. That's right. Well, they're both amazing.

1:09:36 and sync all the things. We played And, you know, I mean, what they did was, and it doesn't make any noise like these guys we're gonna have some fun. you would still beat me at shooters. because you're going to make fun of me. man. Because it's like I knew you were going to insult me. You just get a kick out of it? It's a wonderful fucking game with and it's deep

1:12:13 Please don't. I could have lied, but I knew I had to tell you the truth. this is something i was thinking i wanted to bring up during the podcast man it's like when we first you learn you like you you there's something in there that like fits onto all forms of learning So he knew the guy would be freaking out. Yeah, he would play games with people.

1:14:51 concept that uh if i practice something yeah for example like right now like i'm learning how to do you know what I mean? So I'm learning how to do it for real. But then where it gets fucking weird is when I sit down and play, like, God of War, I'm a little better at that, too. I already fucked it up. And then you're basically like turning down all the lights in your life.

1:18:10 You get the mushroom and have a good time. log he's throwing at you. You can focus. For sure, your brain is very, very active when you're playing a video game. It would be dripping all over the mouse pad and the ball would get stuck. You'd play with the thing and be like, Jesus Christ, it was so fast, but it was an odd shape, like it was a duck foot.

1:20:54 It might be a sniper, so you need very small adjustments, And you would try their mouse. And they would have mouse acceleration. I know, dude. I think I got up to, like, I don't know, maybe Silver League or something like that. a little bit enough where i popped into the silver. And then you want to go back to the fucking Bronze League. But they're also going to be like, what?

1:22:58 and they would be stuck in the game and you'd fuck them up? Or you'd punch them. because it's someone who clearly an older person figuring out one little thing about a module Whereas the other one, I'm going to know a little bit more about math and like how sound works in general, which is a fascinating thing altogether. but then there was this other thing that you did that once you started –

1:25:00 It's fine. Right. I want to talk about soccer. you're right how many people try though right not that many people try yeah you know more people They took his license away and needed a driver. And his cousin was Billy Downs, who was one of the owners of the Comedy Connection in So, but this guy easily could have been a comic. Just didn't do it. Oh, yeah. That was mostly.

1:27:40 I got the pictures. masculine man. And I don't think she did. A lot of these guys, I mean, yeah. Yeah. That sucks. And you had a different maiden name roll around and then you'd see some light go on and you're like he, he's up, he's up, he's up. Here he goes. Yeah. But sometimes it's not like that, man. close to that and then he would knock on your door and he'd say I hate to bother

1:31:05 That's terrible. And she said, I had the exact same problem. Lady's so nice. I go, she's so nice. Because being nice, that's a really great costume to put on. I'm hurt. I'm going to sue, sue, sue, sue. He helped her out. Because that kind of shit, that kind of life. And so by getting corrected by the universe in those ways, you know, I think it's a good thing.

1:34:24 around my parents who grew up in the 60s and then my grandparents who grew up I mean they I know. Yeah, you know you would go to a chiropractor every day and say my bag is fucking killing me But that'd be, that's what he did for a living. Right. like if you steal a two dollar bottle of water now this is my superstition you're gonna end up Tips where, like, it makes the waitress cry.

1:37:39 There's another side to it And I say thank you and I go. And those ripples spread. Yeah, man, everything's good. Yeah, dude. just trying to pussy where's the pussy You're like, good morning. This is it. and you're watching your breath and you're learning how to be in the moment shit's going to float to the surface of the stream that you wish had stayed under some

1:41:19 and be like, you fucking dick. Why were you doing that? for the fact that like, selfish cunt, we could think, oh, I've got too big a force field up. I've developed a thing to protect me from an environment that I'm no longer in. And then the point is, once you start I don't know if it was something. and not impaired mentally can learn how to read. People can't count.

1:44:40 Is to not cling on to the past, but don't forget it either. Whatever thing that it was that you still sit back and go god yeah you know i i rear-ended somebody once with my car um when i and I remember in my car just going but Yeah. It was, you fucking loser! And like it happened like at a doctor's office. Yeah. He's come to a doctor's office. My friend said, well, I was squirming around.

1:48:13 That that was a shitty doctor? fucking kids in a doctor's office and not just 10 years ago and not just 20 years ago like start Like instead of this thing that you get when you jerk off, this relief from the need for sex. We'll work out. And then we talked about it. whatever you're into take a yoga class whatever you're into drain the stress out of the body and

1:51:51 Your consciousness supposedly resides in your body. database of collective emotional ideas if there's really something to that, like maybe it's not just in the brain area but also in the heart area and in all the neurons. I've heard that shit a lot, man. Do you? Why? thinking that the other thing well it's only cool if they like it the thing is she likes to do

1:54:00 their kids and try to force their kids And it can be done. You're not in there. And people don't. And those fucking people hate their parents those people develop this fucking resentment because there's no freedom their fucking mom is always on them mom i don't want Because they changed majors Take on the company business? Some people have a really tough...

1:56:20 really interesting because you start looking at people like they used to be babies that's what happened to me i got a baby boy coming man i know you do i don't like yeah this is the It is the most transformative. Yeah. And then when you do it, you're stuck. We know the woman's brain is flooded with oxytocin and a variety of things. my wife of course wanting to keep her safe and then man it the combination of all these things is so incredibly psychedelic in the most beautiful way and so humbling because it's like boy oh boy

2:00:06 Well, I like in Hinduism, they call it an ashram, like a monastery. Yeah. with people when they are just really deeply connected at a, like a DNA level. I mean, Right. Love comes with this nonsense. world because of that. That's one of the beginning of the relationship. It's just I mean, for some strange reason, we're always looking to be distracted.

2:03:12 And that's part of being the hairless ape in this strange land of electronics I mean, the whole thing is just different now. There's a giant laptop in the front of it And no one's prepared for this. for gangs? We're calling for is the immigrants, the children of immigrants It's disgusting. There's other ways around in comparison to your crime hand, I understand where a lot of people are outraged and I understand where they're coming

2:06:43 Let them know they're not welcome. the way like what that looks like i can answer that for you they definitely have it right so And I don't think it reduces suffering. and as I've been watching this thing emerge on the internet, that drug really shows you the conditioning. Right. And so I knew from a pretty young age, consciousness because it will make them more difficult

2:10:26 but they know these drugs are illegal. You start looking for bad guys. So a person has a tendency, position of power to behave in a certain way right yeah it's hard psychedelic and you look around and you realize oh i see the government though it's filled with total convergence the gestalt of the thing emanates certain behavior patterns right and Well, we don't know what all the shit that probably happened with Obama,

2:14:43 now trump he he's at the beginning of the fucking deportation race. right this has been going on and on and on and on. I think maybe now it's great about the fear that we're seeing and the hyper reaction is if there is anything great about it, is that people are waking up to the fact that our government right now, the American government is out of balance.

2:15:52 threw water in their face. But when I was like 18 or 17 it's illegal to set it on fire right yeah of course it's a joke i would never fucking do that and immigration policies? There's a lot of people that their their their ideas that immigration What? But those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law. for those who are following the law.

2:19:46 think that you choose to hire illegal immigrants i'm not saying this because i'm shocked yeah but And I'm finding various problems in that statement or statistics. I'd just like to see one where it was synced. So yeah, you guys are also watching a version You gotta be careful these days though, man You and I have hundreds of hours of us talking shit and saying things that are ridiculous.

2:21:52 You're going to watch people put words in your mouth? I think that imbalance is being exposed by people's real opinion. And it's all these fake accounts and eggs. thing and what what has happened there well somebody got raised badly somebody somebody You put your phone down, and you go into that theater, and you're all pissed off. And the bad thing is, you're going to miss a lot of the good people.

2:24:17 We're going to get through this and reach a much higher level of understanding of each other and religious fervor and whatever the fuck else is pushing them Everyone wants to. taken away they all fucking storm in and they they demand and they they shriek in front of Jesus, I love you. That's right. You should be freaked out. this guy jack cornfield i have in my podcast sometimes taught

2:27:53 So you're going to turn, you're going to be angry because you're scared. And then you start firing like some fucking behaviors but you want to talk about shooting the fucking messenger, man. Do you agree with her politics? Probably not. But like, come she, does she have the most pleasing personality? Do you agree with her politics? Is that his name?

2:29:49 And one of the fun things like yelling out questions Okay. If you're looking at all these people that are imposing these immoral policies, separating Yeah, it's crazy. They might have a point. And then you have ICE come in and steal them from their kids and steal their kids from them. Nobody. until we reconsider the, It did. being really, really effective in getting a message across is to make it super uncomfortable

2:32:49 ideas yeah he's stuck on this people who smoke marijuana are bad people phase which is like some live in gated communities, many of them, and are featured at events where you have to have an ID into people's houses the main thing is jeff sessions is like it represents something in the I'll be the devil again. And as soon as we just allow people to bypass those rules,

2:35:13 I know, Jeff. As far as the rules of the game, in some ways, I guess it's true. I think I get the, there's a bigger thing happening. where we are all people. Bad, bad, bad suffering where it's like they can't's like they can't they can't live in some So what do we do, Duncan? I don't know what it immigration problem would be solved i'm just saying that the current methodology seems to be a little more sadistic than it needs to be

2:39:09 So can I just say like one, there's many, it's a complex situation. that's the real thing treat them as if they're a So then you would go, well, what's the problem here? You've got to kill rivals. You make something illegal that everybody wants and only criminals are willing to sell it. Awesome. We've got to fix these fucking neighborhoods that have been drenched in poverty since the 1920s.

2:42:08 to develop community centers so that kids have somewhere to go there where You've got to be careful where you go. A lot of people dedicate their lives to it. The way to have less losers is you've got to find the spots that are sick and heal them. And bring everybody together. We got to start acting like teammates. talking about this immigrant issue,

2:44:21 If you were in the presence of a woman who came over here more than anything We're here for 100 years of whatever. you're an asshole and we could figure out here's the number one reason. You can't just vote online. You can't just vote. It's not one person, I know, dude. 28-year-old great idea. Who the fuck wants people to not Can't fill it up. These are people on our team.

2:46:50 I mean, that is it. And look, people are angry. I like the fact she wasn't supposed to win. Yeah. Can you put it into words? as part of the conversation like what does democratic socialism entail like what does it How much of that's going on? They kind of botched it and they had to go back in and fix it again. And I also have options, but I also believe in options for people to do it better. Like the surgeons that you can get in the United

2:49:51 He's fucking way better. Public defender. and be rewarded for that excellence and be able to do whatever the fuck they want with it, of socialism, right? Sure. It's poor management. And it's also people that are listless. And they're stretching out to eight hours, that builds resentment. Right. It's poor management. and that's where i think the problem is like instead of thinking like okay yeah all that's

2:52:56 I'm not saying starting a commune or anything like that, but you can actually push your friendship group to the next level. Hey man, You're okay. I don't forget about it is this like dragon Your dad. looking at your phone like, fuck he said that i'm writing a fucking blog about that guess what you're walking by dude you're walking by fucking plastic bottles piles of fucking trash three fucking meth addicts

2:55:32 That's a really easy way to do it because I'm a yappy motherfucker. So to me, I think we may have talked about this before, And I think there's something to be said for that because right now I think we were a little too fixated on the daddy state helping us. right now. Young Jamie on the mic And the work of the keys We're gonna be okay