Joe Rogan Experience #1138 — Ted Nugent Transcript

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0:00 I'm Morgan. The masters are out there. My pleasure. That was her pitch. So, yeah, so Target Panic, I got lucky in that I got hooked up with John Dudley early Yes. not being an arrow, You can't think about it. So you've got to tell yourself you can't let the arrow go. What you want to do is get a bow and arrow. I hated him. in Detroit, and I'd get that little bow and arrow, and I go down to Skunk Hollow,

4:56 Wow. And I think, what is there? Do you think that that's a thing that people who don't shoot arrows, when you start talking It's out of body. I mean, I've been to the peak of peaks available to mankind. Fred Bear. I didn't know who Fred Bear was. It's awesome. Is that what that stands for? Fred Bear. However, 1911, the last of the Yanni Indians, Ishii, was discovered in Oroville.

9:14 And instead of shooting this Yanni, this last Indian, And they discovered Ishii, and they were fascinated by his stealthy awareness of the wilderness and his archery control with his funny little style of shooting the bow with his thumb and getting close and doing ice-cold river bathing before the hunt to cleanse himself to be And he was also making bows, handmade U-wood and sage orange bows in his little archery shop with Nels Grumley.

11:25 And it was a new challenge for long-range ballistic capability. started asking Fred to make bows, and it spread. And so Fred was now promoting archery in Michigan, and I had my little bow and arrow with the suction cups, and I'd shoot stuffed animals off the couch. And so now I'm meeting this tall, lanky gentleman named Fred Bear. And we'd have chocolate milk and cherry pie with this Fred Bear guy.

14:06 By the time I was 16, we moved to Chicago because my dad got transferred. Started at Amboy Dukes, playing like a madman. to penetrate the otherwise impenetrable Michigan with a bow and arrow I had stuff, but it looked great, backlit, you know, young people, anybody under 30, all they want to know is if I know Ted Nugent, because that i just i'm high energy so you're too i do i wasn't the stealthy i don't know about too loud i mean i

18:13 long time by the 60s i i don't know about mastered you'll never master it but i've mastered what do of us would do it i understand your your your take on it they can kiss your ass, but it means something to you. Right. You shouldn't have sport. That's not love. Yeah. Feel. to get the hell out of the way for more breeding, which is what I do. It's always a trophy.

21:41 It's all fun. shit have you ever had to have a reasonable conversation with someone who's anti-hunting How did he become vegan? Because the farmers who protect bird, every rabbit, anything Hello. I think you and I would probably both disagree with factory farming So I soup kitchens, homeless shelter, I literally give tons. Like everybody's not going to have your kind of land.

26:05 And then they look at the extreme of meat eating, which is the worst aspects of it. done in an environmentally beneficial way. I mean, if you watch my great late friend Anthony Bourdain It was the duck hunters that said, you're polluting this area so bad there's no ducks. And now Lake Erie that would spontaneously combust when I was growing up is now the number one walleye

28:27 It's not as regular operating procedures as it should be, but I see upgrade. to feed animals that people eat. It's cruelty-free. because where does where does quality air soil and water come from i'll go ahead and answer that Ignorance is acceptable. more bears than ever in recorded history, except for the bison, but turkeys, more waterfowl, more cougars, more bears than ever in recorded history, except

31:32 But see, this information is universally available, Yeah. How do you spell his name? The history of But when you do, it's because you dedicate yourself to a higher reasoning level predator My average deer dies in five seconds. So if you grow your own vegetables, you got a connection to that food. And when you eat, you earn it. Yeah, did you? It's an animal. It's dead. You either revere them. I don't have an opinion. It's an animal.

35:05 fishermen, and trappers of this country still carry on the definitive physics of spirituality that the native and aboriginal peoples called the great spirit, hence the spirit of the wild, Yeah. When you leave the pavement, when I leave the pavement, and I make that transition from It's me, my resources, and the beast. somebody else's income. You're just crazy shit. And all of a sudden I get out there and I'm telling

37:56 It was a great morning. I didn't have any stress. Forgot all about that bullshit when I thought I about stewardship callings and responsibility of course pounded by my dad god bless him So I came into bowling. Steve Rinella is the one who got me into it. My friends like guys like Cameron Haynes. He's a goddamn ultra marathon runner I mean I runs 240 miles in a week and then you know is on the mountains all

40:13 I'm just kind of sharing. I don't take them all out to their stand, but we all get together at my Michigan place, have 24 in a weekend, 20 in a weekend. I guide in New Brunswick in Ontario for bears. But his girlfriend is a killer. She's awesome. They're misunderstood because of movies. You know who Natty Bumpo was? He was a character in his Last of the Mohicans.

42:54 That's successful. It exists. So there's always going to be aberrant, dipshit, demonic behavior by our fellow man somewhere, Great man. At a time where there was no indication that you might have to. And so they would play the holier-than-thou And as the song says, in the wind, he's still alive. Do you think they're dishonest or do you think they're ignorant?

45:51 examples since the 60s And you notice I smiled throughout that whole thing. And that's what political correctness is. There's a bunch of us out there. With the backpacking with heavy weights on their back discipline for hours and hours every day just I was out there for two weeks in a soggy, wet, nasty, cold tent, Oh, man. but when you've packed it out yourself when you take that sacred flesh off that grill before you

49:06 We just don't buy meat. It's all we eat is the stuff we kill. Pheasants and quail and doves and By the time they're your age, they're deteriorating rapidly. not feed your children so simple. Well, we can't afford that. And it turns into blubber and here's a little I'm like, this guy's so fired up. I flirted with it for several years. Huh? Shut the fuck up.

52:47 closed because I'm having so much fucking fun. They go, hey, this guy's out of control. Bows and Well, congratulations with that. Yeah, the thing is that they don't get – when they hear your enthusiasm, then they go, okay, well, I haven't had this perspective before. And go nuts. I just don't think that comfortably numb is the way to go. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

55:10 You know, the only guy I want. I was there. I want to. I agree. I got my bag out in the truck. Yeah, well, I know you've had some problems with your knees and stuff, too. Oh, pain in the ass. Yeah, and now- I'm a fool. It's brutal. But I had a good surgeon and uh it came out good and the pain going on stage for Because the music, I have a new record called The Music Made Me Do It.

58:53 best use of my song ever but anyhow best use of your song ever was randy couture coming out to Here I come again, now baby, like a dog in heat. You're getting excited. Yeah. Like a funk brother in heat. Are you kidding me? But you're the only one. Actually, Kiss isn't from New York. how do you not get moved by Little Richard and Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry?

1:01:58 You had a Wham-O slingshot, and you had a little bow and arrow of some kind. What a dream. And even with the damn Yankees in the early 90s, we did over 200 concerts a year. Back with the Amboy Dukes, we do over 300 concerts a year. Bone arrow on the road. Someone's got a sponsor. Yeah, you shoot that new Matthews? Go get you a bow and arrow. Where's that arrow going?

1:05:43 people are learning at schools. No, unfortunately, they don't, hence the debt. Be the best that you can be. You'll end up owning the damn company. Guitar and bow hunting. Took years. And I guess he's going to be 70 soon, too. do, you're constantly doing interviews and phone-in interviews. You're constantly doing Sure. My crew on the road right now, I leave nothing to chance.

1:09:27 I refuse to let lies go unchallenged. banking. And this kind of anti-logic has weaseled its way into policy. And it's just We send out a message, have at it. I don't think they have any choice. shithole, they would stay. It is a Out of control, yeah. if you don't get everything you want and you start shooting people or you cut people off and road rage. If everything doesn't go just right, everybody is so

1:12:31 destitute, they need help. Okay, let's create a welfare where we can help these destitute people. we can't call them mental health centers. We might hurt some feelings. So now what are they doing? They're putting spikes the spikes and two-by-fours? with a two-by-four with a spike Well, that's nice. That's not progressive. I think that would be an indicator.

1:14:46 It's one of the most progressive cities. I mean, I've had personal experiences with that with dear friends of mine that were having mental problems and they end up in an institution. I mean, we saved tens of millions of lives in Africa with DDT by killing the ZZ fly, hosting that brilliant documentary. If you haven't seen it yet, it's called Waste! what we do to our foods in this country, and the self-inflicted

1:17:04 Where are you seeing this? We just don't want to waste. problem throwing it on the ground. Even people that wouldn't wine though no fat pussy i'm telling you that shit will kill you no fat, no tobacco. Well, you drink a little wine, though, right? And no fat pussy. I'm telling you, that shit will kill you. Right. Of course. I know what you're saying

1:19:48 But that's not what killed him. source, peyote, mushrooms, dope, whatever you want to call it. Do you really think that with that outside influence, you can do something you can't And you got to come. We put our fists together and chant James Brown and Wilson Pickett and Funk Brothers, So you're talking from a place of non-experience when it comes to marijuana or mushrooms or

1:22:44 And then he prisoned. I get it. And stealing. I didn't. And he's got heroin in the crack. I get it. It's a brilliant book. It happens with people. whether it's psychedelics or they use marijuana and they use it to enhance their perspective. Because to be to be a Cameron Haynes, to be a John Dudley, you have to be a superior type of human being. And I don't think most people are aware of that.

1:25:01 More than one. pissing all over himself and falling down There should be a soul. But everything can get away from you. Marijuana is really, really, really the highest forms of discipline Or they're going to get their arms snapped. Look, there's elite world class athletes How about world champions that don't get high? I'm a radar. They're not using their blinkers.

1:28:07 Yeah. But you know what else has increased? Also a boom in the economy. It's a part of freedom. But it doesn't mean that everybody who does it's a loser. So I go, God bless you. It could be with sex. Yes. Getting good at them and then accomplishing your goals. There's a high to that that's, Columbine, high. now. I mean, if they had that back when A glass of wine with dinner is a drug.

1:31:46 I don't really smoke it. It's a piston-driven, so instead of 600-plus rounds a minute, it's over 700 rounds a minute. My.223 M4, my best morning, and this is how Uncle Ted parties, Apache helicopter, M4, bags of ammo, 469 hogs one day. to destroy your food. It's the best. saving tax dollars from The industry of helicopter hog hunting is hilarious. So Chris Kobach, who was the Secretary of State in Kansas and was running for governor

1:34:35 So literally within a week or two, they passed the law where it became a commercial outfit Machine guns and helicopters. Unless you're going to let know that. They many people know that. But they brought them over in the 1700s. The pigs that we hunted, Tahone Ranch, came from those pigs down and they worked their way down. I smoked some for a friend of mine.

1:36:33 but also a can of Werner's ginger ale because it's got real ginger and just enough sugar in it to affect it, Like from making this table, you take that sawdust, compress it down. Yeah, my taste buds are as sacred as my dick. You get to hunt in your yard. It's a very unique wetland And on my Michigan fen, I have the In fact, they are drastically under-harvested.

1:39:56 Well, that's a big criticism to people or from people that, especially like people in They're not. How dishonest can you be? Wolves don't buy permits. But that's the thing we're talking about here, right? And if you don't, you have to do that with wolves. They don't even call it Fish and Game anymore. and bury them in a hole in the ground instead of a family recreational resource

1:43:28 It's like Comey at the FBI. so-called leaders? I don't know enough warriors and they look the other way because they're saving their pensions instead of blowing I think there is some that they're trying to preserve their jobs. And they defy it. That is a lie. Delicious. They're idiots. They're not around bears. that it's better Yeah. because it got to this alpaca farm and just went fucking crazy and killed like 10 alpacas.

1:46:50 So a deprivation permit was issued. Obviously. It's like, we love animals. Because you didn't harvest the surplus. And it's hard to find deer. My blood brothers live out here. Iowa and Ohio and Pennsylvania, wildlife so we have balance california is imbalanced it's out of balance because of the lie of the animal rights that have – how the wildlife officers of this country accept that bullshit is just a crime.

1:49:57 No, you don't get to spend any money and provide game department finances. It's because of the average person. You have dogs. I don't want anything to die. I think he washes. He's a scam artist. Michael Moore is a lying, cruel, stoned punk. And he's a punk. Not even close. Absolutely. Well, may I summarize it for you? He actually wrote Wango Tango.

1:54:02 learning shit and if you take me on, gun owners are and that if we could him with evidence that they finally researched and realized Every instance where the most innocent lives have been slaughtered what kind of demonic dirtbag would actually want more? Well, let me stop. You work on banning water. Call me weird, but the way to handle violence is to carry a gun, practice with it.

1:57:36 I know what you're saying, but wouldn't it be better if there weren't any concern? So let's just stop there and not try. perp and the movement of the victims. In every instance, including in Connecticut, In Virginia Tech, there were guys that had concealed weapons permits, but they weren't I've never been unarmed since I graduated from high school. I've always had a hanky and a

2:00:19 are allowed to carry a gun nationwide. Bingo. Sure. shoot up the school okay we'll make a note of that the guy is bringing a gun to school to shoot What's the matter? Jesus Christ. I'd rather be sitting where you are, but I figure you got me covered. through the garage for three Well, he's just different. It's on record. Sit down with this kid at the first instance.

2:04:36 You look like you're going to shit yourself, man. I agree with you. So what we're dealing with is just pragmatically everybody I know has hundreds of guns. Hence, you should be armed and prepared. I mean, they go to the deep end every time. I mean, they're pragmatists. When I was growing up, we had guns in school. This stuff turns you into a zombie.

2:08:16 It becomes altered. And mothers and fathers out there, Some people are fucked in the head. Absolutely. I agree with you. You can't say that. I do not want everyone to own a gun. We're your best friend. Big old fat Jewish lady in New York City back in the 60s. I need to get a permit. And so she went to Uncle Joe. Uncle Joe, I'm scared. I need a gun. This guy keeps,

2:13:10 But she knew which end the bullet came out of. It's like, you know, Bernie Getz threatening her life. Now, they put her in jail initially. It's like, you know, do you think they do that because of prison overpopulation Incompetence. Yeah. And that guy's on the street and he kills somebody. Our court systems are a joke. life, I want him out of the gene pool. I don't believe in, how did I put it in that one interview?

2:15:40 The lady about to get raped. Based on my tax bill, I think they have the resources. We'll be right back. It's amazing how few people can hold their piss. So this is a newsroom? Supposedly a white guy in his 20s. And I agree. How are you going to find all the stored ones? these illegal organizations organizations like you know the cartels in mexico or back when it was organized crime in America for alcohol when the prohibition

2:19:20 Like this fucking culture is gun happy from all of our movies and television shows. Every answer has holes in it. and I don't see an answer. And I think this is ultimately what everybody is trying to find. 50. And, you know, as a martial artist, you have to see beyond the contest, way. And you saved for a rainy day and you lived within your means and you disciplined yourself.

2:23:20 It started with family, but you cared about your neighbors and you watched over each other. scamming people and bribing people for votes by getting you something you didn't earn. And I go, wow, I didn't actually hire that guy. The world's future was threatened. And I was like, this is fascinating because I lived in New York before. so they have enough raw materials to keep entwining rubber bands for the war yeah people

2:27:20 There's a tendency to get lost. We never met. motherfucker with the greatest band the greatest crew the greatest family love my tv show and new Yeah, and I walk down the streets here. who sacrifice and take risk and try to start a new business Don't back off discomforting encounters, whether it's your kid, because I've got buddies. If something doesn't look perfect, look into it.

2:30:35 What are you wasting money on? you doing? Are you high? Are you using? What are you doing? I think if we start family, neighbors, and don't be afraid to tell I come from a world of aggression, not not being a prick about it, but asking questions. At some point, you might have to shrug your shoulders and go, well, he doesn't want any help. Like a lot of the things you say, you know, and you invite this sort of.

2:33:17 those construction guys outside the Four Seasons, I stand at the Four Seasons, how cool is that? And they're the ones There was a real problem believe in secure borders. What's that? And people that don't believe in earning your own way. What's that? People that don't know the difference between You'd have a beer with it, a barbecue. buddies instead of just like puppets pulling that d lever they went the democrats have been lying to

2:36:04 Whoa! They just showed a picture on their website with me testing their new amplifier, how how else can you address it because no that's why i'm asking well i'm telling you you know joe They think of it as racism. And don't you think that the real problem is that Mexico sucks or that parts of Mexico suck? But the corruption, the entire Mexican Guatemalan, all those governments are as criminal as Al Capone in Chicago in 32.

2:39:31 all that process so we know whether you're going to be an asset or a liability? It's not rocket We have a constitution. We have a bill of rights. You need to the point where they're literally dying of dehydration making their way through the desert. they're so disprioritized that all this effort's going towards, you know, You improvise, adapt, and overcome.

2:42:09 But you're certainly not advocating them coming in illegally. Like, people love to do that. of skin. I have to admit there is a racist element in me because I'm going to expect a black guy to In fact, in many instances, compared to a lot of the rap and the hip-hop, I know, but people have called you a racist. which makes people suspicious that you might be racist.

2:45:19 um you call her a girl now i will if that's what he if that's what she likes It's mind-twisting. But I raced against Bruce. He was just the baddest. right into that category absolutely how many people have come to you uh that you run into Yeah. But I'm very blessed because I'm a loud mouth and I'm alive. discomfort with the concept of killing game.

2:48:33 and coyotes will live in your bathroom if you don't lock the doors. And we're slaughtering them by the gazillions every year because they grow gazillions every year. But they don't know how to get started. earthly lifestyles to the city where they were catered to. Now, getting over the hump to have access to hunting ground, I also have been effective in educating people

2:51:42 deer that's not on the fringes of public ground that have already been so pressured that they've moved into the interior nucleus of more sanctuary habitat. Primal moments. I had the number one show on Outdoor Channel for 30 years almost. immediately go, oh, fuck that guy. Like so many people are angry at you all the time? It's not my opinion. Yes, because without me, who's going to do it?

2:54:48 And within just minutes, an honest person will admit that their tofu salad has a whole bunch of dead ground squirrels in its vapor trail. It wasn't before my time. from the system in the little cellophane package. Even though in Michigan the dirt bags succeeded in banning It really is a lunatic fringe. Why is it okay to shoot a pheasant? does not come to hear hunting truth. Your average listener comes to hear smart ass dialogue and issue review and intellectual

2:57:53 When I saw how enthusiastic you were about hunting and about the eating of wild meat and how much energy it gives you, I got very curious many years before I ever started hunting. Magic Zuckerberg actually came out and admitted and what should and shouldn't be legal, 95, 97% of the people eat meat. And if some people want to go vegan and they can pull it off with careful studying of their diet

2:59:45 men and women from every imaginable walk of life that I have to vet And that's how you keep value to fur bearers. Because I'm so good at promoting hunting and gun ownership that they avoid me like the plague. So if people want to find out about that, then go to my website. giant towering forests it's fun to kill deer on your own ground it's fun to kill deer anywhere

3:02:23 I wish I had my own forest. Well, Texas property is fenced because I have exotics, so by law. High fence hunting saved wildlife in Africa. Because the development of agriculture in Africa was in total conflict they literally said, well, God damn it, every time my herds migrate, only a portion of them come back Ted Nugent hunts more days in an average year than most people will in their lifetime.

3:05:17 But everybody, even outside my fence, you still got to kill them animals too. My high fenced hunting and all the high fenced hunting I've ever had is as absolutely pure, fair chase as any wilderness I've ever been to. I understand your perspective. Which I've done. Which I do. Yeah, I'm sure you do. do people have a problem fishing in a stocked pond?

3:07:42 And quite honestly, Out there. It's crazy overpopulated so i said there's 20 responsible Yep. We stopped shooting young ones, and all the neighbors agreed, just like they did in Buffalo County, Wisconsin, which is better for the population because that guy gets to breed year after Because our hunting system of being disciplined and waiting for that mature animal, our hunting system has produced the healthiest, most monstrosity specimens in the history of record keeping every year. So we're not hurting anything by being disciplined and patient, which I've learned over the years.

3:11:08 And also this pursuit of bow hunting, which is more difficult and more rewarding because it's more difficult, is many levels more difficult when you're chasing after a 200-inch buck. They come out about midnight and go back to bed around 1. public hordes of pressure. And once that buck is a button buck the first year, nobody shoots at him. I'll just keep eating.

3:13:10 It's almost like this is a pet or a farm animal. No. what you like i'm have a nice day well you know those farms uh the deer farms that's uh one of I don't know. It's not spreading. Dr. James Crow just testified with me in front of the Michigan Natural Resource Commission number up wisconsin spent 70 million dollars tried to eradicate certain herds,

3:16:57 No reduced in tags. What do you think it is? Joe, in Michigan that claimed that there were, quote, 5,000 to 7,000 Russian boar running wild It's supposed to be delicious. You're not allowed to eat sandhill cranes? What is there, 10,000, 20,000 game cameras? It's a heartbreaker. Even if that's the idea. Yeah, that makes sense. millions of boxes of ammo in Michigan, there's a picture of a dove and it says game load,

3:21:10 But that's different, right? It's a wild pig. Maybe that's what happened. And you're inclined to dismiss anything they say. was like that looks like a steak. It's a red animal. Wow. I like to bring an 810 Warthog to a porker game. it's been a pleasure to meet you. Yeah, especially when these sound bites are edited and manufactured. Because that was an old-school story of an interview supposedly that you shit

3:24:13 I was the most athletic, running, jumping gazelle known to man. I mean, just obsessed with the Amboy Dukes and playing gigs every day. I was in Oakland Community College at the time, so Y was a student designation, I believe. Is that what it is? A 4F, it means you're physically incapable. and they never got anything right. who would break out in hysterics when I'd make up stories because I'm not going to even try to be accurate anymore.

3:27:02 So I go in, and this guy is, you know, he's in interviews typically. and we would party and i go yeah man i was snorting something i don't know what it was So instead of pissing in the urine cup, I took a big dump in it. We thought it was the funniest thing in the world. We're teenagers, and this guy went into the draft physical just an absolute near-death lump of shit to get out of the draft.

3:28:56 So this kind of stuff. I didn't adopt anybody. Yeah, I never met Courtney Love. any of those things. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. of the dishonesty and the anti-journalism, There you have it.