Joe Rogan Experience #1152 — John Joseph Transcript

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0:00 Must be from New York. And I'm excited too for... come you don't call yourself a vegan i'm like because i do a lot more shit than just eat oh, it's just another vegan or whatever the fuck. The difference between what's happening right now with this carnivore diet and vegans seems republicans happens with democrats it just becomes a group thing and then you automatically oppose

2:40 My father was a professional fighter, tried to murder my mom, beat her continuously. So that's really where I come from with the whole thing. I mean, I'm working on a documentary right now, What are you going to do? you have to be able to fan that spark, I trained them this morning. on self-help and it was like fucked out of my mind, hanging out whatever you may be going through in life,

7:23 And I think one of the things that's going on right now with social media or fuck people who aren't that. to get people to pay attention to their ideas. what's going on. Social media is way too young. It's a new thing. And people are using it in these what they're fucking doing you know gigantic Let's talk about it, talk it out. Well, I'll tell you how that came about.

10:40 Now, first of all, and then she went on a blog and called me a misogynistic. She called you a maniac because you sent people on her the way she sent people on you. I was a fucking broken up person injuries all this shit so I'm where I was working at Crunch 50 pounds on me but if you want to put some head gear and and get in the ring i'll oblige you he's like what i said

12:56 I'm like, motherfucker, that dude ain't probably ain't seen his dick in fucking 10 years. we put it out so what was the thought process behind whiting it you just had a lot of shit in I fucking, in fucking, Yeah, he smoked cigarettes like a fucking chimney. I don't know. Man, I smoke like crazy. smoking they used to do smoker fights in the lockup so if you had a beef with somebody you

15:50 I don't quit, man. slide the cellophane down and put joints inside the cigarette pack, but the book came sexually abused by the older about it and I took McKee's class and that was the turning point because I went up to, and nobody knew it because I never talked about it. And I took McKee's class He said, McGowan, everybody uses it. And I would get to that part of the story

19:18 He goes, John, always write the truth. Yeah, I was definitely in a lot of ways that's what I was doing. done to me thank you for having the courage to tell the story and um you know I just kept writing If that's what you want, then this book is not for you. So tell me about that. How did you get into hari krishna's i'm gonna tell you so um initially my

22:16 from like the 60s if you're gonna use Because I didn't hang out with like any of the dudes on my ship. got the fuck away from I was the only punk rocker I was wearing sex pistols say every fifth person you got searched so i was always avoiding that because i would hit the dude He's like, yeah, man, it's Kalaloo and Aki. What is callaloo? like a egg almost but if you eat aki when it's not ripe you'll die you get poison it's this type

25:19 No. You know, what the white man does everywhere So what they did with these guys, a cop tried to kill a Rastafarian and the Rastafarian killed the cop. the drummers and all that shit And then I met the Bad Brains one night. I do too. You got to see this band. at the time so their manager i sold him acid but i got to talk with hr and he started telling me

28:34 That's the singer. Yeah. Pat Twire I said yeah man jogging a range man we're gonna run into to each other again you know so And he was an undercover cop. Like, you don't know me. Then they arrested me. So the paperwork got fucked up. And then a civilian case, too. So I just packed up a couple of things and I got on the bus Undead, from New York, this punk band. Bobby Steele was in here.

32:43 and there's a big Puerto Rican gang that was right there So nobody, the Beastie Boys were there that night. the knife and I hit him with an elbow and pop, pop, pop, knocked him down, tries to slam the door on me to keep me out on the street. like fucking dude was like ready to fucking off me and doc and daryl doc's the guitar player Because there was gigs at 171A. That's where Bad Brains played, Beastie Boys. And then the Bad Brains let me move in. And then they recorded that first album, which MCA for the Bad Brains,

36:04 who put out the first Bad Bra single jimmy quid was in What is ital? What about like avocado oil? And if you have any kind of heart conditions and stuff like that, you should really avoid it. So anyway, what they did was they got me, they were smart because they wanted me to and dude is sitting there watching me and after the end of the day he goes excuse me did

38:27 And I kept trying to defeat it. Soma Ras. Of course there's life on other, you think you're the only fucking life in the universe? the western astrology so they talk about planets way above earth you know that what are they when No gambling and no illicit sex so i was actually a 100 brahmachari celibate monk for how long for two years and i trained martial arts in

41:26 So it started from the health food store. What do you think this is what do And I was like, yo, it was from the Brahma Samhita. martial arts originated in India. The original martial arts school were all in India. And at one point, Sankacharya chased No shit. and when it came time you know Ron Van Cleef Ron taganashi this dude That was a big part of it because you had to develop people that could actually perform in competition, and one of the best ways to do that was to have challenge matches.

44:58 than the dojo storming days. traffickers on the low east side he was one of the first guys to get busted under the Rico statue. i was like that's the last dragon yeah well you know he I won't say names, but he outed somebody that tried to do some shit to him and they blackballed him in Hollywood. And some guy was like, I'm going to suck your dick. problem when you have people that are in power and they control your destiny and that's there's a lot

47:31 town again in the 80s she had the crow mags come and play in a movie at the ritz they flew us off again and when the book came out she was on the set for interview with a vampire and they came but i know that it's something happened yeah i know it i know it goes on something happened it's And the whole shit is about healing people and help. cult of personality right they see you they see. You got this powerful personality and you're positive and you're doing things.

50:54 You just haven't tried. right from the same fucking platform i'm like and even the vaders what does it say have compassion to people and that's something that's really getting lost in this world is better place how are we going to save the oceans how are we going to save you know and you know So is this from methane gas? all the shit that these the farms and everything it's just we're making this planet a fucking toxic

54:36 And the ag-gag laws are devastating. And those are illegal in most places. So it's already gotten to this almost, like, incorrectable position. Like the pigs, they're not in these cages. are never contained. The chickens run all that is unnatural and it's not how human beings are supposed to grow food. they have massive amounts of money so they bribe politicians and they use all of these uh these

57:43 Right. to become syrup and how much environmental damage has to take place. I mean, the world we're living in right now is just waking up to what has been in motion is people only want to look at things that support their position. sean what is his last name sean the the doctor god damn it the fuck he's the the main carnivore guy these carnivore people, let's just take that for instance. If you do all meat sure your body let that motherfucker

1:00:29 But if you look at the blue zones around the planet of the people who were the most centurions and the people that lived the longest, they have three things in common. And it's the Adventists, the seven-day Adventists. Number three, they eat primarily a plant-based diet. There's raw foodists. All right. There's far more information in terms of like nutrition

1:03:05 case we don't have we have just a few studies from a few people or a few tests from a few people that It's a good point. Nutrient dense. I think it might have been CNN online or something. But there's mineral depletion. Crop rotation, what you plant next to each other. And listen, you know, I saw Ted Nugent play with fucking ACDC and Black Sabbath in 76 at Madison Square Garden.

1:06:32 So that's why they're changing the name No, prior to that, Zyklon A is an— the Nobel Prize for science at the same time. We get nitrogen from the Haber method when they're pouring nitrogen into the soil so they can grow plants. How the fuck do they do that? maybe you're not eating vegan food. you're getting it through i mean animals eat animals plants eat animals animals even eat

1:10:27 It's a different process what they're doing now. what's that motherfucker like in real, this is not fucking vegan propaganda this is fucking science and he proved that glyphosate So you're eating these fruits and vegetables that are completely fucking toxic. That's totally safe. This gut flora gets destroyed by glyphosate. Yeah, that's a good one. yeah i drink a lot of kombucha eat a lot of kimchi that's where i get it from primarily yeah that's

1:14:09 Like, I just want to sit down with him. eat a shitload of them like this idea that you know that vegans and meat eaters are supposed like this documentary I'm doing now called 30 to Life, the shit that these fucking inmates have been through. I got a picture of him in my fucking phone. and fucking they couldn't even bury the bodies, bro. They had you know what them motherfuckers went through over there with the cold and fucking,

1:16:21 which I did not, And he's out now? And I just got Nike to fucking give them all uh air pegasus new fucking sneakers I mean, that's why I do. Oh, I lost it. So what is he doing with his life now? I don't know if you know him. His fucking story is insane. I heard like, There he is. There he is. Wow. Because, you you know i had to be really careful because you know i used to take care of

1:19:47 And the food. And I was like- It's crazy. I went to, I was in the same place Mike Tyson was Spofford in the Bronx only fucking their money man they're fucking great dawn and they found this place called amity And this is what a lot of people need. So they're trying to do away with that because, yo, you did your time. He's, you know, been in the hip hop game forever.

1:23:22 said tell him to come in fucking have a fucking dinner he's like she's eating plant based Because they told me, go out on this tour for 30 days. I'm not trying to be a fucking, you know, 90-pound fucking Ironman dude. has black belts he's a hardcore dude all tatted up and you know i just been on this and and i so then his whole journey now they open up this place recover it's right up the block from Henzo

1:26:08 He puts this gel. and they're like yo how long do you think you've been you were out i said 15 minutes they were like And a lot of those guys are coming in and a lot of pro athletes. And then he puts this gel and he puts it behind. So it's something that we could have here. So, like, you know, he's a big fan of yours, by the way, too. No, they had to wake me up, man.

1:28:32 No, I didn't take any pills. That should help the way your brain works as well. record uh time trial i believe uh she was doing cvac the pod it's it's fucking insane you go in So they're just using, Dude, it's, and they're have that at the cryo place that i go to it's and i've never seen him perform at this level so the the success is there even this woman she broke

1:31:32 Yeah, they have that there, too. I got a little groin issue, yeah. My first Ironman I ever did was New York City. He drove me back to New York City. I didn't take nothing. What's a Hoka? It's not actually. But mostly my shit is all in the city and the hokers just fucking like, you know, I'll be the next day. other shit right right you know so anyway it's uh but the recovery aspect of what I do, like I just watched, Goggins was on the Rich Roll podcast and he was talking about how much yoga and stretching that he's doing now, two, three, four hours of fucking, you know, and I know you're into yoga.

1:35:50 Just take this book. Yeah. the assumption shit is fucking crazy man and i think and bullshit that was involved in You know Crush And stretches it's something it's better than nothing you need to go no but i remember how i used to feel when i Yeah. smoking or whatever it is the having that thing over your head where you know you haven't taken me that today and he's like yo i quit drugs i fucking stopped drinking that that's what it's

1:40:16 What's a Bhagavatam? He brought the original texts that have been passed down from one teacher to the next, They robbed him. the humility of him and he just and when i learned his story there's a great documentary on him taking up the process i was like you know um it just changed changed my life so that you know go, that's what I'm missing. Like HR was that for me.

1:43:48 Those four motherfuckers are praised by every single fucking musician today. and then oh that's funny Stanley Clark Like, they started turning to to me and he would say, to deliver pot to all the rap stars i delivered pot pot my friend uh this dude matt worked for And when he did Half Baked, did you notice that he put the weed delivery guy in all bike gear?

1:46:45 And he just, uh, homeless in new york i sponsor a soup kitchen i've done benefits that have been on mtv because you So how did we get around that? That's how I survived. And then he set the guy up and robbed him and all this crazy shit. used to hang out with disco and all these and bobby bird and all these guys and so he's like So my work will never be done until the last breath I take in this lifetime.

1:50:44 I think part of the problem with that is i don't think people totally understand communication i And then on top of that, that person, that you hurt their feelings, Because we're not thinking about it in a comprehensive, wide-scale look. When you see them going down the motherfucking street, Now, we have a law. teaching mindfulness i forget uh he's been teaching meditation i wrote about him in my book

1:53:36 and all these big companies were there. all of this shit it's like people are losing touch with themselves and with each other yeah I'm a work in progress I'm not So, you know, why the fuck do I want to go hang out with very negative people or listen, shit in ourselves for sure constantly fault finding you know with other people yeah and it like the strength that that takes and i'm gonna you, and the other reason I got involved is because my uncle

1:57:23 six figures and the guys who were working for these oil companies, they said, These are human beings. But this idea of rehabilitation, it's-existent now they even removed uh the exercise equipment in the prison Selling crack. And then what? Yeah. and the cia and uh michael rupert who was, who was a homicide detective for the Los Angeles Police Department.

2:00:32 He was homicide, right? and then using those profits overseas. Fuck. I refer. Do you know that they declassified those papers? That is the most evil thing, that you can make money and therefore you're incentivized to make article so satcha in sanskrit means the mode of goodness so that's what this magazine was called And then 13th coming out and just lit another fire under me.

2:04:03 trying to take down governments happen and then you get you know hillary clinton i'm for black people and this and that no you ain't as being this super progressive person against gay marriage and say this is who the fuck I am when Bernie Sanders Those fucking things that you're going And I think the idea of having a popularity contest is fucking ridiculous.

2:06:16 like it shouldn't be partisan. It shouldn't what's imperative, education, community, all these different values, and enforce those Obama did the same shit. Obama did the same shit i mean people forget listen hillary Okay? Well, let's take a test. and you've got hundreds of people giving them the finger, fuck you, you're fake news, fuck you, and they've got American flag t-shirts

2:09:02 Yeah. These guys are fake news. it was this group, and they were just yelling at people. That was Jim Acosta. and burned union people and hired illegals to do the fucking work in his fucking bill. Yeah, Trump University. one of the most unlikable people that's ever run for office in so many ways. If you watch the conversation between James Comey, when James Comey testified about what he did and what they found with the Hillary Clinton emails, and then

2:11:20 was going to lose. I mean, she had she had a shit ton of money behind her, and they were completely arrogant, and all the Well, how about shaming all the women that came out and accused him? laughing about the effectiveness of lie detector tests, obviously they don't work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she's... that went down in Arkansas? And just the string of people

2:13:41 You don't hold on to it. They put him there and rigged the crime scene. They killed him. graze your head if you pussied out and they also tied into the military Send the boys. Here's Monsanto with some new glyphosate. And he said all these people in his neighborhood got cancer. And my uncle was force recon in the Marines, and he got fucking, like, everyone in his units that got, you know,

2:16:25 It's crazy thinking. I mean, it's in the 1960s in their thought to defend It's a dumping ground for us. Uh-huh. Yeah, they denied They're distantly removed from it thinking about that. The disconnect. Yeah, there's nothing. with Woody Harrelson, weapons of mass destruction was just a complete lie. And then there's a justification after the act. Everybody wanted action.

2:19:53 And they said if Osama bin Laden met Saddam Hussein face-to-face, But what's great about the movie is it shows how they just started force-feeding the information out there They don't have shit to do. A lot of the New York City fire department and police department supported Trump. You know and he starts making fun of Rosie O'Donnell or making fun of this person

2:22:14 I use the analogy of a magician. as a country like i think a lot of these countries right now who may pose a threat or whatever They're people that are easily led. your existence that you put every fucking ounce of your shit into this fucking corrupt ass politician Absolutely. Crazy Bernie. And I think that in a lot of ways is what started the ball rolling with the Me Too movement.

2:26:10 did so then once he's in office people like no they just couldn't believe like how could this she's a meme. because people are literally, And, you know, it's a weird time for the truth because there's so many people that don't want to go any further past the surface. Weaseled his way in. And won. that one person, the one at the top of the peak, this group and your financial future your health care your your all these how much taxes you pay

2:29:02 And they come home and their wife's bitching at them and they're on antidepressants and pills and their their kids are all fucked up and they Well, that's a crazy thing. It's crazy. Abilify can fix it all. talked about that on the podcast who was it do you remember article from 2015 saying it is the So it's the biggest selling prescription drug Official site.

2:31:52 Aks- did you ever Aspartame. He had something to do with ignoring evidence. companies. And it's, can you Google this title real quick? It's called Confessions. Gwen Olson And people are dying. Yeah. And that's what's great about a movie like Forks Over Knives, Yeah. And, you know, all these processed vegetable oils Reagan's new FDA commissioner, Arthur Hayes Hall Jr., appointed a five-person scientific commission to review the board of inquiry decision.

2:36:12 Might induce brain tumors. like well you ever drink zevia you drink zevia soda you ever have that soda sweetened with uh force protein we were using stevia for that i call it stevia not stevia yeah but that potato sugar, you should eat fruit. And they got all the pros pushing it like these kids you go to these uh basketball camps or football camps actual the actual volume of sugar it's crazy this is our number one problem and one of the things

2:39:33 And then on top of it, saturated fat. this is because you're eating cholesterol and saturated fat. And then combine it with alcohol and the rest of the stuff, it creates a chemical reaction You could trace it back to processed vegetable oils. Or quoting studies that were funded by the same companies that are making money off of selling foods that are high in saturated fats or cholesterol or are.

2:42:02 There was this documentary, and I always blank on it. The same people that are doubting climate change were also doubting cigarettes being addicted. are there they were dismissing climate change you're like what like how can you be so obvious wallpaper with fucking flies ants and you you know one of the biggest one of the one of the biggest ways that toxins

2:44:49 you're feeding it pesticides you're feeding it this fucking animal that's in la and they were down in california somewhere epicyte e-p-i-c-y-t-e and it fucks with the sexual for instance and i wait a minute what do they do they're spraying their aerosol spraying the crops It changes the pH. So you're saying that they're spraying things out of the sky that poison the ground so that

2:47:56 world's food supply from seed to motherfucking to farm to table all the way through. We want to control. So how do they do that? No, but they say that they're spraying the fucking chemicals on the soil. I had to study chemtrails for quite a while because I was doing a television show on them. Aluminum. It's way more likely that these papayas are growing in a place

2:50:10 Right. But there's also before large scale agriculture made its way to Hawaii as well, and our genetically modified crops, they can survive genetically you know uh modified crops are you know they can seed and then and it comes out in the leaves and the bugs eat the shit and it blows their stomach Right. It's just the problem with the whole government is evil thing is they're just greedy.

2:52:31 So they get into the government, they pass legislation, and they go back to the corporations to reap the benefits of the laws that they passed. But, you know. you. We both poison the sky a little bit when we fly. Wow. the government has actually admitted to a program to try to, you know, shotgun wound with a band-aid like let's reduce the fossil fuel if you want to fucking cool the

2:56:13 what we were talking about with all the other aspects of gigantic culture there's so many moving Just in LA. San Diego has more people. Just Los Angeles. fucking food is everything's very expensive it's fucking insane yeah it's a beautiful beautiful growing uh shit on their front lawns and their backyards now because urban organic farming you and it was five miles, African-American guy,

2:59:08 So then they said, well, how the fuck are we going to get food if we ain't got no car and we can't go seven, ten miles out of town to the supermarket? community instead of just having a house jam next to a house jam next to a house every community and it was a shipping container streets that you you see everywhere you go what where concrete is it could be dirt and then it is it is possible that

3:01:25 It's a fucking hard ass job. Do you know Dick Gregory's the guy who brought the Zapruder film to television? Eight years after the assassination. But people didn't see Kennedy get assassinated until many, many, many years after. so many you know it's black and white and it was shaky back then they've since used computers to So, yeah, the bullet had to go through two people,

3:03:38 bullets get jacked. The single bullet theory was also created by Arlen Specter and those fucking guys from the Warren Commission report. wrap this bitch up nice and tight. They weren't Kennedy got shot by Oswald, and then Jack Ruby shot Oswald. And he was probably involved, too. Bay of Pigs. from when he was in, silver certificates. executive order

3:05:36 yeah they whacked him yeah you Who knows? him they gave him the weapon and then as he was trying to detonate the weapon they arrested him Yeah, it's like you guys talked him into doing this you gave him the bombs and then you arrested him And I think anybody that can send a drone sitting there completely fucking, like, you know, did we yeah flew by well you know what they say how do you know when a lawyer's lying

3:08:52 We got along. Yeah. So they always used to go around We took him out security with us in case we had problems or whatever. And Brian is in the middle of the fucking dance floor phone call yo like he didn't know that they And Brian's like, bah, bah, bah, fucking Brian could fight. And then Brian just told me this because I didn't hear the other part.

3:11:49 lifts me up and carries me out the fucking door and throws me across this car. And I call him up. Yeah. you know yo that guy kicks like a fucking horse and and and he's like yeah i know that's my dude man he fucking you know he's like yo you would it's a sick card when that first in a karate Doug took me to the UFC oh okay in Newark down you or five years ago okay in newark uh

3:15:19 Hagler Hearns. Lost to Sugar Ray Leonard. Yeah. I've seen that before. tour of crime music and history on the lower east side and we go by that whole where the palladium uh was where the clash september 21st the cover of the clash uh london calling was shot there And when that closed, then I was just walking by one day when I was with my mom I said, what?

3:17:33 That's crazy. Yeah, so we do this whole thing. I saw some of his fights. And I'm like... And all the tours meet in this area. So in New York, and Steve Lacey just texted me, Where the fuck is it when you need it? And the press is underneath it. ones riding in 81 when you played bonds if you go you go to the video Clash on Broadway, I was there rioting because they oversold the club.

3:20:24 I'm smashing motherfucking windows. John Belushi. So it's all these famous, the murder of Abe Leibowall, who owns 2nd Avenue Deli, and famous movies. So this huge black dude I know, he just got out of prison. right now y'all better listen to this man because none of y'all motherfuckers I'll see you around, blood clot. I got to wrap this up. I'll be back tomorrow with Mark De La Grata.