Joe Rogan Experience #1157 — Shooter Jennings Transcript

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0:00 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You're like, bitch, get those sunglasses off. I think I'm just going to keep them on all the time, Like a real cool black artist is just allowed. Yeah, he fits right the fuck in. Those are Porsche design. I've never, don't they make a, didn't they make a BlackBerry for a minute? People correct me. taking selfies. Who busted them?

3:16 never satisfy with the truth that's why people gorgeous women will put those fucking crazy I don't mind the wrinkles on your skin when you smile. You know, speaking of Insta models, I just listened to David Spade's audio book, which But it's hard for me to actually keep up and care about it. That's crazy. I know. But I'm bad to be in every picture you take. That's crazy.

5:00 So I'm good with it. And if I'm not liking them, I feel horrible. Who the fuck saw that coming? bucks and then to spend just a break yeah it costs 15 cents to manufacture in Taiwan he was like an I mean, we had like ectoplasm slime And you watch the commercials for glue. They must have jumped big. And tied. They came up. I mean, maybe it's the same kind of thing.

7:25 What was that? Yeah. with physical too that's another one oh yeah borax yeah that's fucking toxic you know it gets in your epsom salts. When you float around How the fuck have we only done one other podcast together? My mom. Dude, that place is the shit. I had the balls to walk up to him I mean, regardless of what side you're on, Oh, the investment in Apple.

10:11 Yeah. Anybody to have that kind of influence though with these phones and shit it's like that's pretty pretty dangerous yeah i i kind of trust them with data Yeah, I mean. if it's 5 million bucks, I just got to stay right there. The round earth shill? People believe, like, you see someone like, say if you live in an apartment building and you drive by a dude's house.

12:45 Well, I mean, there is, again, what I was saying about the threshold of money. later and but yeah there was web craw Yahoo, and Lycos, and then Google. Remember AskJeeves? A couple dudes in an office, hey, we've got a web search, and then all of a sudden they've got – They just have, once you make that, I think it's the, maybe it's 500 million. And now his family owns it, I guess.

14:55 grappling hook up and they climb on top of your yacht but when we're driving by he's got smack it Even renting that yacht would be like a half a million dollars a week. But then the rest of it would suck. Did he ever ride it? Fruit is really good for you. Chemicals are not good. There was an article I read recently that was saying that they thought that diet colas actually helped.

17:27 At the end of those Yeah make it all ineffective Why Diet Coke And also you're asking people to remember what they ate, which is very ineffective. Coke was giving you colon cancer. I cannot. Yeah, that was one. And he told me that they pulled all kinds of things out of dudes butts He's a genius, man. and it was like their garage was open and a bunch of people hanging out playing vinyls.

21:12 I mean, with the fucking tuning pegs and everything. Babies come out of their bodies. Woo! But he was there during the 80s, 70s and the 80s. Taekwondo. So he was probably in Miami like 80, 81, somewhere around there. were dead oh you know the brains they were dead i didn't get to see like the the light bulb up the Oh, my God. Well, no, it was about Griselda.

24:14 I think I saw part of that documentary, but I always wanted to watch it. There was one year where everyone who graduated from the police academy either was murdered or went to jail. Please Google this. They're so good. I mean, if you ask Rick Ross. No, no. to get his name back and Of course. And he learned how to read. at the same time, which is not how three strikes, but they hit him with two charges at the same

27:00 You can't do that. well. He said he wasn't this crazy buck wild dude driving Rolls Royces, throwing money out the And Link in the history of the Iran-Contra conspiracy. Wow. That's funny, dude. That's like one of our- Like, he wouldn't do it after. of Liz Phair forever. Me too. at the time. Oh, come on. first, but it doesn't make sense. I get it. understand like alex had me on many times and he supported my record black ribbons when it came

30:51 You've never been on a show sober? in and out of the record um that's steven king yeah that's steven king so like when i did that And like kind of how things were. is like so uh volatile that like they're gonna to, you know, the Sandy Hook thing. All right. via you know whatever green screen and like okay i need to see that it is there i mean i know this

33:02 But I remember we did the Black Ribbons record and we took a clip of the laughing for he went he snuck into bohemian grove and filmed The guys dressed like druids. And there's probably hookers and all kinds of shit What do you mean especially the Megyn Kelly thing? If I was going to come, but if I came here with the intention of just talking to you and then all of a sudden you were like, hey, on this day, on this thing,

34:57 He's been my friend since 1999. I don't have time to check it. Do you see that? There's a bad quality video right here. Something really happens to his nose super quick that looks like it was just like a digital glitch. I think that they had a stand-in because he couldn't be there. Maybe he was. to you about conspiracy. Well, you got to sell out, son.

37:07 And he goes, you fucking rich asshole. But then once I talk about Bitcoin with you like fucking five years ago or whenever it was I was here, three years ago, It keeps going down. and I understand the passion and the emotion involved I just got to say it's okay for him to fucking fuck up. He thought it was fake? he said that the government threatened my family to stop talking about conspiracy theories

39:49 Call me. Like, well, no, I did a show. actually went to like these places where these people are claiming to see ufos we went to these It's dudes who can't get laid watch documentaries on flying rods and all these UFO documentaries and all the fucking All of it. It's like the same, Why is he saying it? say them like they're true. I'm not defending that, but you are a little bit.

42:51 Well, I played a show with David Allen Coe. You know, he really, he liked David and everything. did a you know we did our song our set and then he played and he was on stage and he performed a song my mom wrote called uh storms My mom, Jesse Coulter, wrote this song, Storms Over the Last. I'm just saying I could do that it involved the lives of children and everything

45:32 now like AOL chat rooms Their lawsuit, that's fine. because he's always been that guy. and comments and i agree all that stuff i agree but but let's let's get out of the let me let me It is. There is an open port. It's not always 23 on the units, but it's shared with with the telnet port. They were like, they were scripts that were trying to log into DVRs and trying to log into IP cameras that you can control and everything like that.

48:50 addresses so what are they testing for the testing all their flaws all they're trying to do is they get past the 13th 14th 15th node which essentially means like once there's 15 I mean it's just a thing. They hired people to pretend to be Donald Trump, You got to think, Russia is, you're talking about a giant place. No, I'm not saying that at all. And I don't like to get political because I don't really fucking understand it.

51:55 And your body has an immune system. When you hear about the Republican Party getting hacked into oh, what does that guy know? no one kid sitting in czechoslovakia who has a computer has been able to figure out how to turn your webcam on and watch you beat off. So because this is a new thing – Sometimes. I think that Russia, China, Korea, like every other fucking country that is enabled in a way in which they're so far ahead technologically was involved in all kinds of fuckery.

54:16 Woke, you gotta say woke. And it was it was that that term became dumb immediately. They're using the internet and all these open pipes and these connections that they can make to you. a very very very very very different i'm not defending him but i don't understand how you Was it New Yorker? I'm just saying that I think that it's unhealthy. I think the social media thing has become too centralized.

57:42 he needs someone sitting right next to him someone like me someone when he talks and he says something crazy go wait a minute how do you but they're 28. Like the whole, you know, and then they wound up Or is that people exciting people to go and take action against something that may or may not even be real? and shooting them up because they think that something that they heard online is true.

1:00:30 pissing, shitting state of chaos. And this is a stage that we're going through. And these things catch fire, and they run through dry forests like a goddamn tornado of flames that you see on CNN when the Mendocino fire up in Northern start fires. And this is what's happening with Alex. And it's not that Alex is a bad guy. about right you just turned on we went we just turned on and went we had a couple of drinks

1:03:29 This is where that lawsuit is really coming from, or email and say and these ruts We are in a really exciting time. That's what the human being does. Stop right there. think he lies so this cat this cat all he wanted to do was make it basically were like medical i took two hits. I think we need more venues for people to distribute information. Yeah.

1:06:45 I just have five hits. This is part of the problem, right? And those are ruts that are owned by these companies that are very fucking rich and very expensive. Well, here's the thing, too. internet has become. It used to be a wild West of information. Emails are fucking information. Okay, so what bothers you is that someone comes along I don't know if they all agree, but they just all decide.

1:09:00 really are fucking with free speech, we have to be very careful. And what we decide is a valid reason to pull people off of our airways. what have you what have you really done to mitigate this issue? Or are you acting on this because it's a social hotspot issue right now, which it most certainly is and most certainly should be? I listen to him every day but sometimes

1:10:33 And I do a country record right now, and they're like, ah, it's kind of corny. That's the Stephen King record. Perfect. No, it's 204. Let's go with 2.08 p.m. So it's just as long as we're honest about how we feel about things. No, listen, man. We're not qualified to have this conversation, but no one is. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Twitter allows a certain amount of porn.

1:12:19 and if the unboxing of the LOLs can exist. I just think that there is a certain level of, like, president of the United States, who is also a famous celebrity billionaire guy who has his name The world has gone into a vortex of crazy, You heard it. Yeah. They're pretty much universally beloved. He's a rapper. Shooter Jennings, bitch. Dude, I love it.

1:15:33 You got some straight up country. record he played guitar b record. He played guitar. And we were like, That's how I got into music. records we listened to and you know obsessed over pig floyd and stuff you know then we were a You do your music, and whatever you're into right now like what do i say about your newest albums our playlist man it's like your newest audio release

1:18:51 going crazy but with the song the country songs there and i always felt if electric rodeo got the band and Dave did the record and uh they believed in me and they signed it and he kind And then I hit them with what I thought was a good shit, I know. really interesting how you do that and i think that thoughtfulness that allows you to be free And I think that's a big part of community.

1:21:45 And I think that your take on Alex Jones And if you start conflict, chaotic group think thing that happens when we decide to go after people and stop being is massive now it just opened up a gate it was a little trickle it was like that fucking border It's getting crazy. Meanwhile, this guy is just talking to his webcam. Dude, you would get categorized.

1:25:10 And then it turned around and became super loyal. Yeah, man. And you're like, oh, shit, this shit is like the heavy shit. Still to this day. Sorry to ask you that, but i've been dying to know that because i wanted to know if shell Yeah, Shel wrote that. Though Cash wrote the signature song, Man in Black, to explain. country music for sure. Shel Sivestine. I got to be around him a couple of times when I was young. He wrote it. He wrote it.

1:27:41 Look at that. He was a monster, man. It's guilt-free, mouth pleasure. Yeah, he was a beast, man. was in my room my old here in la and in the star gun house that was the pink house over by the tom Anyway, this little pink house we had over there. 2005 or something like that? Um, five. And then we went again for Highwaymen 2. Oh, man. Phenomenal shit. I fly a starship. all together yeah i was cool as a team moment produced that record it was it was phenomenal

1:31:14 That's what we're scared of. Wouldn't it be easy just to fall for five seconds? You start from scratch, go through evolution again. You've got a bunch of shit you're holing up in your house because you're trying to put some sort of rigidity You were talking about when you were just afterwards, but you were talking about everybody gets sucked up into all these different, you know, fucking confrontations all the time.

1:32:35 And I think the only answer is there's going to have to be some established decentralization of the Internet that returns it to the form in which all can exist digitally as Actually, Tipper Gore was a Democrat. But It's just what people do. But I would argue today, where they were trying to figure out what you can and can't do today You can do whatever you want.

1:35:15 There's no way you could manage this respectfully and with enough dignity to the people who are crazy. Oh my God, he would have a heart attack. Yeah. we've ever experienced before as a human race i think yeah oh i think so i think we're on the uh It's one of those hailstorms of information. will be nice back this is the thing we got to realize that if you're nice other people be nice

1:37:13 Instead of having this short trip Let's just fucking, we could do this. Life is just one. in fucking outhouses. Like people knew you know no one ever did with them No one ever did but there was that thought when we were like I guess I was It's amazing. dealing with children i know and dealing with them the youngest ones are eight and ten yeah see mine

1:39:58 somebody else's summer camp starts, The vast majority of you are awesome. If something goes wrong at 4 o'clock in the morning, Sam, who's in it? Sam. God, he's so great. The actor? billboards you know it was such a good role you know i'm talking about that movie three um sam Three billboards. That movie was awesome. Yeah, they're married. the thing that i really got to me like a dude that movie moon is fucking amazing that movie moon it is a a movie this is this is how unusual

1:42:58 It's a mind fuck the whole way. There's nothing wrong Otherwise we're gonna I was like Love it. I don't have to have the internet. That's a lot of work. the time before after Prometheus and into Alien Covenant supposed to be the There's so much CGI and so much chaos and special effects. But the problem is Prometheus for a lot of people was less than what they wanted.

1:45:10 but they're super, super expensive. because he said, hey, man, you're going to see it, but you're going to leave and you're planets like our planet that they seeded and they went there so you're like the next one should or goes back to 1979 with Sigourney Weaver, Kate Beckinsale chick She was believable, man. Should have seen it. didn't get a chance to communicate with him he was with his lady but we had been going back and

1:48:07 He sells flamethrowers. Good for them. As soon as you let it go, that's how high you are. No, I just like guys. group. They're great. But Sturgill, And it's like a cool vibe, kind of having another dude out there Yeah, it's cool. And then Dave Chappelle played right after you're like, oh, yeah, hey, my friend Dave's going to do a thing. You know, it's fun to know cool people.

1:50:58 like he just let people know about something awesome early but i was listening to it in the You put a picture of it up. to work out with the button you know that song Just press that button. for for like my dumber self for having gotten through it without more damage being done and I was kind of out of it. I didn't talk about it all but John Hensley my manager back then he called me and

1:53:31 We've got to stop yelling. I think the positive look at all I think it does. judged on your emotional behavior, your impulsiveness, your dishonesty or your discipline, to be judged on those as if you all started from the same spot on the board is just crazy. And maybe we should remap it. their opinion because it seems like nobody we've all lived through it and we all appreciate other people who have done the same thing and

1:56:25 but it was about music and about listening to music. and an hour later you guys are high-fiving and laughing and hugging each other These guys who you never met before are now your buddies. We've got to be that new friend at the bar. Social media. hyper hyped up business They're focusing on it the wrong way. But if you do, you know what I mean. you know i mean like you do something you love you pursue angles like you chose to pursue

1:59:23 It's fucking awesome. I have my own taste. No. It seems to me things just sort of happen. I mean, they trick me and they do things and they're smarter and they're you know nothing i could do could impress them more than what they can do by watching what i I have to shout out to my IRC people. There is a BCR, my record label that I own with Adam. that are not this place.

2:01:59 have an irc server so there's one all day and i'm on it all day and i talk to people that is so The government didn't even know how to fucking trace a phone, literally listening on IRC back then. One of the ways I learned how to type I started with Quake 2 and I was later she's like i i didn't have a computer but i went and bought that soundtrack because

2:03:41 And we would play Doom 2 and I i was listening to like um white zombie Like you're really into cryptocurrencies. values platform. Hold on. What did you do? So we just if a blockchainpowered social network for our best selves. do you have to open up an account or something you get a scent you can do it without any involvement I'm not saying... Look at that.

2:06:31 The ability to not mute, I believe. Okay, that was like a haiku. Oh, that's amazing. No, they are. I know. I'm glad you started off that controversial subject of the Alex Jones thing. be able to do that. I don't think you're supposed to be alone It's a way of measuring distance. Respect.