Joe Rogan Experience #1159 — Neil deGrasse Tyson Transcript

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0:00 So, why aren't there flying cars? That's been on the New York Times bestseller list for how many weeks? Oh, the Astrophysics for People in a Hurry. That's been on the New York Times bestseller list for 67 weeks. because you'd wonder what's going on. Well, not to kiss your ass again, No. Ever. even if you do go to college. We don't think of it that way, but that's what it is.

3:10 But when you get out of school, you should say to yourself, damn, I want to learn more. Joey, Janet, I need you to do this. ask people who know more. You just embrace the act of learning to satisfy your curiosity. That's a lot of weeks. He's human. Stuff to Blow Your Mind is one that I really enjoy. Yeah, and yours as well. but they're also curious and you're getting these experts and everyone's talking about

5:37 All right, let me buffer that a little. Was it your idea to do your show with stand-ups? What we said was, there are does, it doesn't matter. portray Gollum. And then it jumps species. So Cosmos. That's how a dog became a dog? So they're on these fishing, you know, high tension fishing wire that you can't see against the snow. from the wolf and the wolf snarls and they're like and then the commercial's over he's like no

10:14 Let's get the fuck out of here. In Cosmos, it's your feeling cap. It then went to Netflix. That's a great question. Through the Wormhole? Yeah, I got that on there misses. Yeah, they could feel it. You know what I say when I address teachers? to start my pleasure um who was a science teacher that i had when i believe i was in seventh grade And what do you got?

14:08 We've all had those teachers. You don't even care what you get on a test after that because you got touched and you And I brought this just because it's not even out yet. What is this accessory to war? No, no, no, no, no. What is this, Accessory to War? This is not for people in a hurry. and we go into conferences and argue about them. If you needed more reasons to think that Columbus was a dick, okay?

17:10 Okay. he's in... He's got to get back to Spain. The full moon enters Earth's shadow and disappears. Actually, back then it was just the known world with earth in the middle of the known universe Others said, shit, we got to do what this guy says. And within seconds of this beginning, they bring him all the resources he wants and he gets – and we don't know what happened back at the island, whether the people survived the winter.

20:47 Because there's a room. And that's how it's making energy. But if you hire some of the best people to do whatever it is they want, And the invention of the telescope, you haven't said anything yet. You're a good listener. The real advance was putting two lenses in line with one another. Because you say to yourself, my senses, I don't trust them to be the full record of

23:56 Why do you think that's something interesting to do? And so he writes, he reports on this to the scientific authorities and they don't believe him. Venus goes through phases. This has been a two-way street ever since people We think if there are black holes out there, their region surrounding them will give us X-rays. There was a two-way street. And even some simple things.

27:43 And the creative energies cannot be pre-prescribed. You can't go to a creative, you might, but I don't know that Okay. Because rubber doesn't slide well when you have, doesn't slide sideways very easily on grooves. Power tools, cordless high-torque power tools, were invented to service satellites in orbit by NASA. You didn't. Don't you want to keep looking into the future?

30:42 Four-tenths of 1%? They'd take that dollar. No, it's one half That's like the person who says, You know, this is. Hedy Lamarr. Super hot, though. Yeah. But you've heard about quantum entangled particles where I can create a pair of particles that know about one another You have to do, yes. Right. And in the quantum scale, interactions change the state of the experiment that you're conducting.

35:18 like paying taxes, what would you have said? Why are you spending government money on the atom and on molecules? It would take decades, five decades, four or five decades with GPS and with computing devices is take you back to the cave and let's say we have to solve the cave problems And then you can cross-pollinate them and transform civilization.

37:53 My physics professor in college studied the universe, loved the universe, And thus was born the magnetic resonance imager, the MRI. Yeah, people don't like nuclear. they did some more tests. And of course, the water molecule and other molecules common in food respond to microwaves. It vibrates them ferociously. It's just friction. People get scared.

40:47 But only if you like overdo it. Yeah. It's not that they're afraid of microwaves, that they're afraid of things they don't understand. She quotes that as part of what makes her healthy. It's true. Soup. It has nothing to do with radiation in the normal sense, other than electromagnetic radiation. Yeah. There's still some moisture in it. That's right.

43:41 Oh, so an fMRI, I don't claim total expertise here, but I'll tell you the little I know. An MRI, And you can look at it in all three dimensions, front to back, side to side, up to down. And F stands for functional. And the arguments against it were like, if you're going to be accused of a crime, clearly you're going to study the evidence. before it happened and then scientists had to say hey hey, guys, this is not how it works. Like this shit can just happen.

45:59 Okay. So you ready? There's something called an objective truth. And when you have objective truths, they're not later shown to be false. No one is going to take that from you. So I have this personal truth and I require that you share my personal truth. that because it's your personal truth, you cannot require that someone else and it's true in their bones. I'm simply saying that because it's your personal

49:05 into the fabric of the country. And if you want to be some other religion, you're going I don't always like it, but I respect it. Okay. And that's an absurd example of it. And I've just given up on that. By the way, it's why I don't call myself an atheist. I don't debate religious people and tell them they're idiots. And then I gave the astronaut's name.

52:36 I'll tell you. those three words. And why would you say this? You would say this to someone leaving the city wall where it's dangerous. So now, what is the source of danger if you're going to space? Is that really the origin of it? after John Glenn, And ask me my favorite Broadway musical of all time. All right. It's interesting. I'm going to tell you.

55:08 Right. Get crazy. Every four years. from the year that corresponds to how long it takes to go around the sun. Slightly different. a modification to the Julian calendar. You know what they had to do? To invoke it, Really? Yes. Yes. The Gregorian calendar figured this out. And it had put 10 extra days since the Julian calendar to the Gregorian Because it overcorrects, how long do you have to wait to remove a leap day that you would

58:39 Okay? a leap year because it's divisible by four. No, it is a rare leap year. It is a century year So I'm not just because some atheists are telling me to rid God out of everything in the universe. use BCE because it's a liberal forward thing. No. Yeah. They use a different system. creating a more effective, more accurate calendar that doesn't invoke leap years?

1:02:07 They had a calendar based on Venus. Not as good as the Gregorian. Why do they want to believe that? I don't want to take that away from them. rediscovered in the, as I understand from the artists, had to be rediscovered in the Renaissance. Right. We have no sensors for this. I can see that we know far more today than perhaps – no, not even perhaps than at any other time in conceivable history.

1:04:59 Do you know where the first thing that was built by humans? What is the next tallest thing we built? That was the first stable structure we built as a civilization that was taller than the pyramids. Yeah, and it makes for a great TV. And how do you move the blocks? Because they're just big. They're lined with the and the moon in the sky. And when they match up,

1:07:40 Hawkins. of the stones in relationship to the where where the, okay, Gerald Hawkins. Yeah, it was good and that stuck with me, That would be a great picture. along a street that is itself three miles long, and then you're crossing the Hudson River, Yeah, see? Yeah. Powerful afro. Wow. first ever manhattan hinge photo what year is that from uh i took that in 2001 right and it got

1:10:57 from the American Museum of Natural History, my day job, All of them. Yeah. Coined it. Why isn't it possible to construct a calendar that doesn't have leap years? at like 12 minutes after three in the afternoon. yet it's really a calendar event i'm sorry it's a clock event it's celebrated over 24 hours yeah Celestial celebration. Those two have nothing to do with one another.

1:13:26 When we do that, we are not at the same place we were when we last celebrated New Year's Day, New Year's Eve. Well, when will we be in the same place? See? And the Mayans base it on the moon, right? is this is going to be the end oh they're so what so every decade there's somebody predicting the So that's – it's entertaining. The world is going to end on October 19th.

1:16:12 And an objective truth is true for everyone. That's not what I'm talking about as an objective truth. And a couple of other places that have high cholesterol intake Oh, that must be true. Most research in any journal of the moment will ultimately for the scientists. It's exciting for knowledge. And religion, in many ways, gives you answers right now without the need

1:19:03 are coming up, if they know less than the generation before, that's when we really start to freak out that would be a problem although i So to me, I would put them in the same bin just as you were thinking there. They look great, but then things stick to the bottom of them. Yeah, that's the issue. It'll stay, yeah. The world is a circle. an oblate ball. We're slightly

1:21:22 in measurements are so small that and you rub your finger over Nepal and you get the Himalayas. Really? Everest? The Marianas Trench off the coast of the Philippines in the Pacific Ocean. No, no. Why would you name the tallest peak K2? That's a good point'm just right i'm not a mountain climber but i'm i'm just thinking where is k1 okay it's the yet we are 8,000 miles in diameter and those two points are very far separated from one another

1:23:51 I had asked you to debate one of them flat earth guys. No, I don't, I can't. I know. I know. We charismatically, and you're unchecked. But if you did that in front of an expert, It's about whether the education they had teaches them skepticism of information and other does not. connected to your first belief to your when you have an idea and it's in your head it's very

1:26:53 objective truth. That's a very good thing to do. No, no. Okay, let me think. Do you realize two basketballs can fit exactly side by side through the opening of a basketball hoop? next time you watch a basketball game. I wonder if basketball players – Because then that would throw you off. Is it heavier? where your two hands go and four inch pocket opening as opposed to a five and a

1:30:35 No. I wonder if they calculated that because what you would do is, If the ball's twice as heavy, you throw it half as far. It's a very, very fun thing to do. Nerd is – It's like, oh, yeah, I'm an old movie nerd. Yeah. I was captain of my high school's wrestling team. and I come flying in and there's a wedgie in progress. They also have brain damage.

1:33:54 Yeah. Encephalopathy. I already told you the dick story. Whoa. Right. Right. And we're basically wandering. And this accumulation, when it's significant and sustained, we call glaciers. Glaciers is not because there's a land bridge there. They don't even know it's a bridge. It's just more land. Okay? This is a branch. But our species is separate. syphilis from the Native Americans? Yes. Did they have no problem with it? Well, I don't know the

1:40:20 So what I'm saying is this was a hugely significant event, the rejoining of the branches of the human species. Yes. Really? Yes. South America have more in common with each other because of this than most other pairs of groups If hundreds of thousands, that would have been a different story, right. Not so good. But so does it jump mammal to mammal?

1:43:00 a whole division of NASA. It's protecting Earth from bugs that could be coming from space on our own spaceship that we bring back. Because it might have crashed into one of Saturn's moons that might have life. It might hit Europa is a moon of Jupiter. So that's the plan. Okay. Wasn't the Matthew McConaughey movie? Did you comment on that one? My intent is, here's an observation that I think if you understood this

1:45:39 four movies ago now. Plus I've lost track Okay? so that the star And I tweeted. Ooh. That's enough energy to explode a thousand planets. Okay. but I don't have the urge to share them. and you walk away. And someone who's a car expert points that out. Right. I don't like these generalizations. No, because my- Yeah, it wouldn't work. I don't need to force people.

1:50:05 What the fuck is 20%? But you say 20% Out of the millions and millions of people that follow you have decided to reach out. with long hair in space, it's standing up I might post it. You're not knocking on someone's home. Listen, man. Yeah, it would. Imagine steel tires. So it will work if you have a hard surface just below a dusting of sand. So I posted this and people said, you're ruining the movie for me.

1:52:43 Give that fucking thing some tractor treads. You know what's actually happened as a result, I think? You're keeping them on point. Yes. the left side of the sky, Okay? So, And then he said, you know, last I checked, Titanic has earned more than a billion dollars worldwide. But it's not the end of the story. I forgot his name John Smith. Hi John. How can I help you? Is this the doctor I said yes

1:55:18 What, not, I mean, the... We might have. You got a sky? so he has the fluency and he also knows how to write. I don't know. Walk away. Yeah, I got fat thumbs. saying to be more precise and to, as we say in physics, to reduce the impedance between the you know that person's an asshole, right? Like, yeah, you spend all that time staring at the fucking sky instead of fill in the blank.

1:58:44 They're looking to get angry. I don't even want to take you up on that challenge because you're probably right. He's so pompous. is that and therefore everything. You can't listen to those people, dude. I interviewed on StarTalk. Yeah, it's her song. And there's a line about it, where she's making love to an Alien. And I wanted to find out what she was thinking. Did she? Did she write it? Yeah, it's her song.

2:00:55 I don't- Sorry, Russell. She fucked Russell Brand Yeah. jackson was there people who just there's something a little different about them you know I mean, it really has happened on multiple occasions. Who doesn't want to meet the aliens? Oh, by the way, in the movie Arrival... That's a good one, too. Not an anthropologist. She's not a linguist. Because how many linguists are ever shown in a film?

2:03:57 So how did they know we weren't seeing them, the mirror image of what it was trying to communicate? You know, it's like pulling out your pistol and shooting at the spacecraft that crossed I mean, it's always part of the narrative Yeah, and going on And one of them was about Captain Cook. So the Brits send Captain Cook to the South Pacific. They had filters.

2:07:01 open the envelope. Oh, while you're there, use these new navigation techniques that use the sun, moon, and stars and map every coastline you find and bring that information back to us. The motivation, part of the motivation of knowing any of this was navigation around the globe. Ships would be shipwrecked. For by knowledge derived from this science, not only the bulk of the earth is discovered, but our very faculties are enlarged

2:09:47 So, yeah, it's an exercise in dominance, in hegemony, in power. It's part of it. And they're using or two? I forgot which is sort of the Islamic counterpart Find astrolabe. I want to see what that Wow, look at that thing. If you didn't otherwise know your history. it depends on where you are on Earth. Holy shit. You don't even learn about this in school because you only hear about the rest of Europe,

2:12:10 It completely looks like art. And look at any of the- And so the most decorated ones are the ones from the Middle East. Can't take those out because those are cosmic. But if you want to hate Trump rationally, you want to not hate him no matter what he says. It was called the Army Air Force. Trump's mouth doesn't make it a crazy idea that you might want a Space Force. In fact, I had

2:15:57 And our space assets by day, day by day, are growing by leaps and bounds. And what have we done with GPS? That's a GPS. You'd want that protected. Space Command. To the sense. But do you want the government involved in that? So private enterprise is not good at doing expensive things that have never been done before. They say, how much will this cost?

2:18:41 That wasn't the objective. They come in. because I want that contract. You say, no, you want the contract. You make an airplane that And thus is born commercial airplane. flown across the Atlantic so is there a plan with the Space Force let me hold it then no yeah you can you hold it Oh, there is? What are you afraid? Yeah, a samurai sword. Asteroids.

2:22:11 and so are the other major countries of the world. Okay. I don't have that much confidence in human conduct. Just give a shout out to my co-author. She would say, well, that wouldn't fit the narrative as it's coming together. write. So we're co authors on this. But thanks for asking. That was good. So so that here's a Okay. So this is Earth. Right.

2:25:37 Right. Not only that suppose there's a rogue satellite and it's messing with you. It's beaming And all of a sudden, you become a victim of your own weapon, such as what happened in Could you, I mean, could you have space war? And so it'll affect our economy, Because we had a policy that if someone wants to hijack a plane, Forget the extra x-rays that we're doing.

2:28:53 When they put that drink cart in the hallway to protect the pilot when they open the door. aisle while that's happening. They'll tell you to sit down. Right. I would never do it, of course. And by the way, one thing I noticed is that there was no shockwave. And therefore, there's no shockwave. Oh, yeah. but I don't think it was as... Because you can't turn at that high a speed

2:31:52 Oh, yeah. That's a thing. Yeah, it's a fraction of a second. So it's like, that's it. You can't even Space to space. Why don't you clean up space for us so that we can have tourism and not risk our lives by a paint chip or going 18,000 or bolt or nut moving at 18,000 miles an hour that'll put a hole straight through you. No. It's just like, it's just littered, and we're continuing to launch new things up there.

2:33:47 It's not worth it. So the Air Force tracks debris, as does NASA. I'm going as fast as I can. First satellite was Sputnik. What was it? Only then. One thing. There's thousands if you include the dead ones. They'd buy it. That was visible to everybody in broad daylight. Wow. But you know what else I purchased? But it's a warning. Holy shit. That's just a piece that made it through.

2:37:49 Most of it vaporized That rock is that fucking heavy. that I use. Oh, see, mine is like a It's a forged metal Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dinosaurs. Yeah, but we don't really know what to do if something happens. That's it. We would have the power There's Project Sentinel, you can look it up, that has tasked themselves with organizing world governments to protect Earth from species-killing asteroids.

2:40:54 you want to have a fund however you want it, Right, a little bit. So that angle grows. I mean, it's the same angle, but it spreads out. And that's, oh no. Oh my gosh. do? Ten years? I'm looking for a month. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. homeland security where That's what you would need. And I thought the new grid is supposed to have those kinds of protections built into it.

2:44:23 Takes out the grid. Oh, that's a good move to have that escape spot. Got it in 03, Long Island's overwhelmed with Lyme disease. It's alpha gal. quite a few friends that have lyme disease and it's something you do keep for life. You don't go anywhere? No, no. You just sit back? I just look out. I go for a hike on my deck. You don't go anywhere? That's honestly not a thought.

2:46:47 It's also they're overwhelmed by nature. There's the right amount of whelm. the gun is in his arms reach and Denali Park, they're a little bit habitualized, too, right? What is that near? What is, what is that near? I'm not mountain range fluent. We've done that a gang of times. Yeah, Asia, China. Population density. Because when you go into bed at night, you're going to bed during the day.

2:49:22 Yeah, because it's only light for a few hours. It was actually a pretty fun movie. I don't see the romance of getting bitten in the neck. Underworld. No, I just like the fact that there's a lead woman kicking ass. I love when women are winning. She's the original female movie badass. Oh, yeah. We got it. Actually, I have a tweet. Look at that Right.

2:52:20 to drop your gun ever. Ever. So when you do that, then you never drop your phone. You don't get AppleCare? The key phrase is there, if the screen breaks. Exactly. Skeleton Optics. Zeiss Lenses. Zeiss them for free shout out the skeleton sunglasses. Oh skeleton optics Zeiss lenses Also the things if you pick up the phone with one hand And it's upside down

2:54:39 It's just as slippery as My point is that's not why it's there. cause them to deviate slightly from their path, which over a long period of time.'ll literally cause more friction in the air and cause them In the vacuum of space, there is no friction. So there was a coating that they were planning on putting on some aspect of – would it be the act of putting the coating on? So what you would do is, you may be thinking of, there's a coating you can put on an asteroid

2:56:10 Okay. Yeah. I sent you a list of topics. Let me just- Since we're two hours and 40 minutes in. Really? Average. Here you go. Okay. So here it is. The fastest you could go on that road is the speed of the slowest car on the road. Let's make two lanes. the two-dimensionality of travel, but you still have so many cars that you say to yourself, I want to bypass this traffic.

2:59:47 They're noisy. We already do that. That's what the flying cars would have given you. You could buy a flying car. Tunnels that are layered on top You don't have to get on the subway. Tunnels. Just the same way traffic rules matter in a street. Okay. It's a physical desk, I've just introduced a third dimension. because we have no access to that third dimension.

3:04:01 well, just put it up in this direction. What would be the fourth dimension in that regard? Just the way on the surface of the desk, if you live in the surface of the desk, someone opens the door, they put the paper through the door, close the door and you look around and you say, where did it go? Getting people to step through. It's moving it. Does it make sound?

3:05:40 So if you get so close, like... field that, you know, a gun in my life but the first time i ever used one it's to shoot the drone that's going to be Oh, there's music, but there's not the actual sound of those propellers. Because it's about the same as a car. But cars today are not. So there's no engine there. You live in LA? Yeah. I never, I forgot about that.

3:08:44 That's crazy. Correct. And evidence of this is the noise of air going over the airfoil of the fuselage. Oh. Yeah, I think about it all the time. What do you- Skyrage. If you have automated cars, you don't need How so? Right. Okay, I forgot. Don't try to pass me. Not with the cars. It's not 100%. Give some rude They're going to make a lane that'll take automated cars

3:13:02 hour and that just seemed so embarrassing to the Lamborghini. You just gotta go late at night. It's good. It's in Los Angeles, California. Oh, definitely Tesla. No, it's an important car that set a lot of other manufacturers into motion to try to, But when you plug your car into the wall, you're not asking yourself, I wonder where this power comes from.

3:14:47 What about clean coal? I thought it was just fucking coal. And if the price of oil goes up, you say, I'm not going to generate power with oil. Look it up so we can mention. Okay. came from. Everybody knew how much their salt cost. Do you realize that Grant, General I, growing up, did not understand No. Let me finish the thing. But I can increase my blood pressure now by not peeing and ingesting salt.

3:17:23 We're talking about energy. Okay. So I said salt of the earth. Why is what the salt does. You retain the liver. Let me get back to the thing. We're talking about energy. figure out how to can Wait a minute. So now salt has lost its strategic value. Okay. No. So have an engine that works on hydrogen. Maybe you don't fight. This is old. Crazy fact. I got it right here in my greasy hands.

3:20:36 There's no pictures. Nat Geo Look for Cosmos in the spring Bye everybody