Joe Rogan Experience #1170 — Tulsi Gabbard Transcript

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0:00 Five, four, three, two, one. What a great place to be a congressperson. I have a friend who goes to the Big Island every year for Thanksgiving. My district in Hawaii covers basically the whole state except for the densely populated urban corridor of Honolulu. Yeah. boarding up all the doors and windows. saying, you know, ballistic missile headed towards Hawaii. Seek cover. This is not a drill.

3:01 started thinking through what do we do with the last minutes of our lives. But as I was doing that, I was getting text messages and emails and things from people down a manhole on the side of the street, his little girl. did he have like no glasses on or something? Understand the magnitude of your decision. people aren't living under this threat of possibility that that could be a real thing.

7:02 Yeah. And they have said it directly. The U.S. led this regime change war, toppled Gaddafi, and North Korea says, okay, That you're watching it on YouTube. know what the proper solution is. I mean, do you keep someone like Saddam Hussein or someone like Muammar OK, we're going to remove this person and then we're going to put this person in I mean, either off the record or on the record, what do they think is the solution for situations like that?

11:04 and not trying to further a specific agenda or Worse for the people in those countries. in this war that's created the worst humanitarian disaster in the world. They just bombed a school place. Having come back from my own deployments to the Middle East at the Hawaii Army National Guard, And to then make sure that they were getting the care they needed either in country or get them evacuated as quickly as possible.

15:36 I don't, you know, I don't want somebody in my foxhole who doesn't want to be there, interventionist wars. As we, in Hawaii, for example, struggle to put air conditioners in That's very rare. So when you're talking about these politicians and having these people being held accountable, a lot of slack-jawed dum-dums out there Maybe more? I think this is a giant problem with people that want to be in a position of power in

18:47 And that motivation is to be the Uber, to be the king, to be the top of the heap, to be the queen, whatever it is. mainstream have been holding back? I think that you only get a certain narrative. jimmy door for example yes you know jimmy door talks about a lot of things that you'll never Just that that in and of itself is a job that that, you know, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, they're not covering.

21:59 the committee or anything like that, that would essentially authorize the United States to go to war with Extremely dangerous and a blank check to essentially start a brand new war that currently has not been declared. Why would they want that blank check? And our enemy. has to be on the table we have to be a certain age to run for office so you know right well how

25:23 And, um And yeah. George Bush is one of the weirdest ones. And if it doesn't, then they should probably arrest you. But I think to that point, just talking about how few younger members of Congress there are. actually solving problems. And so, you know, different people have come and gone in Congress, thinks that people smoke marijuana are bad people. I mean, it's a weird thing when you see some of these old guard.

28:00 Right. is even more strange because I don't know how you stop. must be some sort of a reason for this. And then when you see those people that are questioning, Jeff Zucker. Where's the real you? I'm kind of going in a few different directions here with with uh these social media giants how they're being misused um to further We know that person is not going to be nice to us.

32:00 So, yes, we need to stop these other foreign countries. the first place. It's never existed before in any single presidential election. There's never been conduct themselves and the way they've been doing it for so long that they don't even think it's a largely because of the huge difference in their worldviews with Hillary Clinton's very hawkish interventionist foreign policy and track record.

35:26 And that was something that I saw and heard from people in big cities, small towns, Midwest, North, South, East, West, people who appreciated just being told the truth. This is some sort of a bribe. And there's a direct correlation there, though, with Wall Street big money in general, years, Congress has slowly and this is not just Republicans, there are Democrats who are on the

37:51 Very few people. And Hillary just ignored it. I mean, she just didn't respond. She didn't say, I'll give you And you've got to figure out a way to be able to do this and for office and if you want to serve people within that political realm, that you have to go and kowtow to the corporate interests and the people with the big money in order to be able to fund a campaign, in order to win, so you can do good work for the people.

39:55 They're raising more money from people He was very competitive. And all of that came from those small dollar individual contributions. someone invents some crazy new medical technology that reverses aging you only have so much life in Well, you definitely can make the most impact as vice president of the United States of America, don't you think? Although that Pence guy, you don't hear a peep out of that guy.

42:41 Unless you watch Veep, right? is that really what it's like? all the salacious stuff, Meet me by the subway. We didn't really say anything. Like what you were talking about with these bills that get passed that have these hidden agendas deeply written into a thousand page document. deregulating fracking and liquid natural gas that's affecting your water

45:35 When you look at all of the vulnerabilities that exist, a lot of the stuff that's being talked about now. that a third party can influence the count. Well, that's American ingenuity, ma'am. And there's tons more like her. But we can bank online, right? you also see um banks get hacked yeah and yeah they've got i mean they've got um you know their then a voter verified paper backup.

49:16 traditional or I can go to the machine, which I usually do, go through and make my selections. And after that DEFCON hacking conference happened last year, they said, we have to fix this before our election. I've been pushing for in Congress, especially as we head to these midterms, especially as we head this for months. Where's the results? So you think they, they actively are ignoring

52:08 why haven't they actually solved this? taking place in Democratic districts yeah it's um it's very disconcerting the the members of Congress and two for the senators. Other states say that it's proportional. They voted for Hillary. So that puts you in a situation where, and this is not about, well, And it was 70% of the people voted for Bernie? But, yeah, so this is something that I've been fighting to try to reform within our party

57:07 Those things seem so clear cut. It seems so cut and dry. But the superdelegate issue in particular, Is there any resistance to getting rid of these superdelicates? in keeping the system rigged, You know, I've put in all of this time and energy. It just seems like that's something that should have been eradicated a long time ago. That is a hilarious justification.

1:00:13 No, it's really, I mean, again, you're either an elected member of Congress or you're somebody who the party chooses. Yeah. So disrespectful to people. It's crazy. It's really crazy. Yeah. the case. And then when people find out about it, they go, wait, wait, wait, what? They can just I was shocked that they conspired to have Hillary win the primaries.

1:01:41 Yeah. honest leaders who have integrity and, Yeah. I mean it's easy to go back and say, well, look at this interview from four years ago when they were completely different. talk to you or I'm not going to have a conversation or it's this camp versus another camp, this tribe versus another tribe, you know, I think there's – so, yeah, I'm taking a hard look at this because there are strong arguments, I think, on both sides.

1:05:11 i don't think it's gonna happen slowly right i think that problem is gonna stumble onto us give people a check instead of piecing it out through all of these different things? And would They're going to go, why would I work harder? um, just culturally people, uh, Best case scenario with universal basic income is you give people the opportunity to pursue their dreams.

1:08:45 What could you do and i think that's that's um that opens it up into kind of how we view education in this country and how um you know or how you feel you can best use your time or your skills. I had a friend who made it through medical school and by the time he got out, he owed more than a just to stay alive. They don't have the time for that. there's a pilot program on the big island right now called paramedicine where current like medicare reimbursement laws say that as our emts go out in ambulance to pick up somebody they will only get

1:12:07 into this healthcare system that drives up the cost for everyone and also use technology to do Well, that's a fantastic idea just to avoid the trips to the doctor for rudimentary things. care, we have to get to the root cause of why are these costs being driven up so dramatically is that we saddle these young, ambitious people with insurmountable debt.

1:15:15 Yeah. how did he envision that? That's the fear, right? these prescription drug companies can raise their prices hundreds, if not thousands of percent Because obviously we would like to believe that medical schools know more about how to raise doctors than you or I. two of them at the end of this month. And so one of the things that they do is they identify people on the island who are dealing with like 30-plus-year-old guy who's dealing with major heart failures already and who's obese and dealing with weight and diabetes and all these

1:20:51 I eat mac salad every day. As a staple, right? And the benefit to all of us as taxpayers is that you're going to have less health care costs. You know, just the time that you'll get with your family and with your kids and being mobile Civil liberties is one that I have and continue to be focused on in an area where there is Yeah, those are really important points.

1:25:09 This has been grossly abused and how, you know, whether it's our cell phone records that were being gathered in mass by the NSA or other things, we're seeing that because of the Patriot Act, there are the loopholes that have been created that have allowed these agencies to exploit that. There's also some weird rules where like if you get pulled over, they can't ask you for your PIN number for your phone, but they can use your thumbprint to access your phone.

1:25:35 devices that they've been selling to police departments that allow them to crack into Accurate. And then they got into your phone. How is that? That's crazy. And there's some legislation that we've worked on that we are continuing to try to get passed And it has not been updated to this day. That seems crazy.S. Postal Service was the only way people communicated, and it has not been updated to this day.

1:28:11 filled, we are doing a disservice to those people, to our communities, our family, and every taxpayer to help make sure that those who don't belong in prison, like nonviolent drug offenders, Regardless, we both want the same outcome, which is less people in our prisons and bringing down But I think the sick part about it is that you have people who recognize that they could make money off of people who are going to jail.

1:31:32 impacting their children, their family members, their opportunities for their future, and how And people are like, okay. Yeah. severe autism, and one of the only things that can stop their seizures is medical marijuana. I mean, We know why prohibition was enacted. access, again, either to medical or non-medical use of marijuana. And you see, you wonder, okay,

1:35:23 been shown to have radical results. There's a lot of work being done right now. Because CBD is non-addictive, non-toxic, not hurt, and massively beneficial He's like, this stuff's a miracle. I think Kentucky, I think there's another state that's a leader in this. There's so many benefits to it. as styrofoam. Whatever they're profiting from, whether it's the people that are selling pain pills or the people that are using it for, I mean, it was initially made illegal because of paper.

1:39:15 whether you're talking about health care, economy, or criminal justice and law and prove your eligibility. Opioid addiction is not one of them. Legislature said it should be, and I think you can Hawaii Army National Guard. And a lot of that comes from not having a basic level of respect may have different ideas than they have about how you solve these problems. But if you, even if

1:43:03 So thank you.