Joe Rogan Experience #1172 — Morgan Fallon Transcript

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0:00 four three two one what's up mo what's up how are you buddy good to see you man it's good to see like, oh, it must be really hard to talk about that. he had a DP on a show who at the last minute canceled, couldn't go to Egypt. And like, you know, it's like all of a sudden it's thrown into these kitchens. well, we need some shots from car to car, right?

2:52 Absolutely no regard for the fact that like I'm on the roof, you know, shooting. I started getting invited to do more shows. were you doing No Reservations first? That's what I found out about him. Like that transition going on to CNN and going into Parts Unknown, that really changed things. I was like, okay, this is more him, you know, You know, that's amazing.

5:43 You know, and that is how he experienced the world. introspection and thoughts and you know um, that would have, like, powerful, you know, powerful force to work with. his show when i saw parts unknown i went oh it's an art. It's just an art form that you eat. Absolutely. And, you know, the food is an art form that incorporates all of these other aspects.

8:37 Yeah. all of that flavor, you know, contained right within there. in terms of food and i think he had that effect on many people i mean you think about Absolutely, man. Yeah. and present this version of travel and food in the world that, you know. painters or something or women who are sculptors. I mean, they're real similar in the way they He kind of pulled back the curtain on that.

13:43 Tony also had this sort of punk rock sensibility to it all too. amazing I was like I can't believe he can do this all the time like I think one of the first times No, it wasn't. No doubt, man. And they had this ice fishing shack. And then they were laying out And he's like, and I come prepared with stories. And you're going to try to enhance it with your own anecdotes and personality and your

16:11 With people who understand that there's an elegance to all of these things. But like running around to all of the crew members, like, do you have something to eat? Absolutely, yeah. that show. You don't leave that show if you get a spot on it. Were you with him when, when it ended? and I just sunk a pit in my stomach. I think I called Maynard. just appreciated the fuck out

19:46 Fuck, I'm in, dude. But I would think about things differently because of him. Yeah. It feels like, but also just such an icon to me, he got into jiu-jitsu i got psyched because i'm like we got more to talk about now like i can I think it was before he even got his blue belt, every day well that was every day for a long time on the show that was a mandate we find the local

23:20 And then he became addicted to it, which jujitsu is a very beneficial thing to be addicted to, but it is absolutely an addiction. I know what I know from Tony. And he looked great. Got off statins. Yeah. You know, those were big things, man. And he looked great. Yeah. And also just, you know, the whole thing was kind of indicative of the way he was.

24:51 It's just crazy to see someone do something that's that physically demanding at 58 with no background in athletics at all. He loved it, man. anything else and he loved that yeah going in and you know getting smashed yeah but you know dissolving experience in a lot of ways because it makes you realize all your illusions of how well you can defend yourself, they go out the window

26:50 Yeah. And he was the root of the show and it was his journey. but it's, it came across. What's that guy's name? But that kind of text, like, that's a Tony Bourdain text. Genius. out with him you know like i just it was one of those guys he was one of the ones that i met I'm like, he's great. Yeah. We had a lot of fun that night for sure. You know, and then having him cook it there and it was delicious yeah it was awesome and but also being

31:12 You do what I do. I know he was really pissed about the Cadillac ad. I think the original people that owned it, because my friend Bert Kreischer has a show over there, or had a show over there, a couple shows. pot, he had to make sure that Jamie turned the camera that was more interested in making like you know shows about sandcastles you know yeah and uh and

33:05 It's a hook after hook after hook. I mean, look, you went from Meat Eater, which is an amazing show, and Parts Unknown, and No Reservations. It's Mike from Finding Bigfoot. they can you know they don't want they don't want what we do. They want fake Bigfoot noises. Are you going to do more stuff with Steve at Meat Eater? Are you kidding, man? Yeah.

35:49 But part of me was like, even though we're rain soaked, I want to hunt the last six hours. you can hook up with an animal and catch a can um no man but you know like it was that's exactly is no joke it seems like it's a joke because if you hike for like five feet it seems like nothing Yeah, man. The major muscle groups, right? the stairmaster with that exactly yeah yeah no i'd put weights in my pack and go in the stairmaster

38:38 And I just think back to that. you know possibilities for myself that I had never thought of before. I'd done some hiking and some camping. Right. I'm going to do this. years that's a lot of what they put forward was like kind of machismo and guys shooting you know would you want to shoot a lion? So if they have antelope in Africa, Yeah. I don't want to have nothing to do I understand they do, okay, good luck. Yeah.

42:43 I love, I mean, see I I love Africa and I That's the one experience. white folks coming in with this very patronizing kind of view. Um, and then we're down there with No, again, they realized that we weren't going to be paying for any of this. And people who will literally find any way to scrape out an existence and a living, you pressure, um, in terms of, you know, manipulation of markets, um, there's, there's tremendous

46:45 we don't, you know, make that kind of show. But, you know, being in places like Gaza or the DRC And, again, getting back to Tony, I think that, you know, that's the legacy, right? What else are you seeing where people are interacting with people on the street and there's not some sort of a murder story or rape story or something awful? Well, listen, Africa just simply doesn't make news

48:49 that I'm not even going to pretend I understand, There's a lot of bad shit that happens there too, obviously. You know, there's some places that I didn't enjoy as much. But I think most places we found something that was like, oh, this is awesome. Okay. and other places have been deeply misrepresented in the media, you know? Um, and, uh, but you know,

51:31 And you can dig into it wherever you go. He was a television producer. Okay. It's Disneyland with the death penalty. you know, what is this environment like? What are the interesting things? What are the stories that heavy into research write a treatment you know um and break that story into like six acts right him you know um and then uh and then we'd go out scout shoot the show you know how weird is it

55:38 at dinner and we're being filmed. So we would go in early and we would light Are they wearing wireless mics? Yeah. Right. It largely worked, you know. Okay, cool. enriching journey for you yeah hugely i mean usually there's i mean it's i don't know it's there's You can go into Lagos. How many they did? I have it on my DVR. I was like, God damn, what a good show it was.

1:00:14 And I'm, you know, I'm actually still working on one right now, which is maybe the weirdest that it didn't didn't freak everybody out it had to be someone who was on the show a thousand times So, yeah, getting back to process, I got gutted a few times, man. How long would it take for him to do something like that? it he'd get back to you he'd do the work you know it um well he took pride in that yeah he would

1:02:38 incredible creative power. When did he start smoking again? In the past, when he was smoking we would I guess it wasn't as frequent during the end, you know, nah, So that's when the smoking started? the world. And, um, I don't know exactly what show I'll do, who's a very unique person, is that Steve has this eloquent narration. You know, you wouldn't be able to make meat eater with pig man.

1:07:41 You see, there's justification to enjoying a porkalypse. Listen, I'm not saying don't have fun on a hunt. You know, I think it's one of the things I really loved about Steve. on yeah it was a crazy show man i mean i talked to him about it and his sort of idea of why he And I loved what he said, too, at the time. else. And then the next week I'm going to go hunt something else. And then the next week I'm going to go hunt something else.

1:10:23 fallacy, One of my favorite episodes. And they have a big old bear in their sights, what they want. And everybody's like, what? and every one of those had kind of like hit or worked and i think people actually appreciate really either uninteresting or just fucking stupid, you know, but, um, you know, I think that it was like this moment where like, Oh my God, like all these, you know, this, this industry

1:13:05 More power to them. wildlife. And, you know, he does Because they were willing to look at an industry or look at something that they loved and say, like, well, I have a completely different take on it, you know, and I'm willing to put that out there at whatever cost. He's sleeping on the ground outside in these, you know, really fucked up places. You know?

1:16:27 we need to set this up when you set that it was kind of like well we're just gonna go out and But I'm not sure that they aired a lot of failed hunts before we started doing it. I don't think it was. And there was no music. You came from a hard man. Yeah. There's not a lot of those kind of guys out there. And uncensored content is so prevalent and so much more attractive.

1:20:34 their ethos of you know making content that like has a purpose you know that that works towards that want to use the medium to... You have to have those people with that deep reverence for the subject that Never. Oh, it's a good thing. I mean, it's the Wild West now, but in a lot of ways, that's a good thing. Oh, it's a good thing. Me. We're going to go to places I want to go and then hang out with the people I want to hang out with.

1:22:30 And I think CNN in a lot of ways, like, you know, and Tony, that, you know, to have the freedom to be like, well, here's a, you know, 60-year-old, you know, ex-heroin addict. He's on camera talking about being baked with two people who are growers, Because you see all the seafood in Seattle and all the delicious food. Insane, man. a great episode man and it also fuck god damn that episode got me hungry because you like you

1:24:05 put together a pdf like showed his family and they were like cool let's sink everything into Like way to go. And you're like, oh, okay. Why? Yeah, exactly. real expensive? I guess because maybe they're thinking you're holding a machine that's like real expensive. Someone must have chimed in. Again, that's why this was so refreshing, you know? Those were the early days when they were like, there were line items in for like Animal Wrangler.

1:27:10 They're just pulling from the playbook. Though it was, I thought it was like a pretty revolutionary and like pretty interesting show in a lot of bullshit um though it was i thought it was like a pretty Subsistence. Well, meanwhile, those subsistence shows that they have, they're all hunting and gathering. And I think there's something very different, you know, when you take like, you know, when

1:29:12 It's like why isn't it acceptable for someone who lives it as like a base philosophy in their life, give them a chance to explain why. Right. Marco Pierre White. that he like he goes they asked him to kill the pig, and he goes up and just very coldly double taps the pig in the head. like a mob hit or something yeah I think one's enough for a pig I don't know man blank range

1:31:26 If you see it still alive, put another one in it absolutely that's always yeah bow hunting rifle hunting I'm not qualified to do that. And it's irresponsible to the animal and the potential in mind and making his best attempt to, to follow that, you know? Um, and again, that, you know, We're not going to— operation well i i guess they were the sidekicks in the scene that we're gonna work with tony right

1:34:17 I wasn't on that show, so I don't know exactly. There's people swimming. I got an octopus. He left and went to the beach and hit like seven Negronis in a row Wow Yeah, exactly. Being there with the camera. Like, what does that even mean? I agree. What you guys are doing is more documentary television. beautiful. We're adding light. You know, it's not exactly the way reality is, but there's a

1:38:57 under this, you know, within this certain threshold or else what, you know, what the fuck are we doing? You know, it must be a small percentage of people in the business that have be a really good place for a lot of things yeah it seems like that's the that's the best place when we said we can't do that. so I'm sure it would have gone somewhere. super nice guy yeah i did an episode with him in kenya with tony um which will be the premiere of

1:41:59 and then there's a couple of specials in there, like, you know, and here's a project we have that we think. and doing things like that. They announced some show with him traveling the Kitchen Nightmare show. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Constantly. What are you talking about? It's one of those things But that's an okay to have badass car because it's a classic,

1:45:05 Yeah, as most people would. I'm glad you reached out.