Joe Rogan Experience #1186 — Marques Brownlee Transcript
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0:00 Here we go. Four, three, two, one, boom. First of all, before we get started, I want to say I really want to tell you, whenever a new cell phone's out, and it'll be fine throw it across the room But the weird part is it's made by Red. What is this metal thing on the back, the brass looking? Yeah. So I've worked with Red for, I've seen a lot of the process since.
2:42 Is it a problem when a company tries to get into the cell phone business and you're don't know. Really high end HD They've worked with smaller teams, like individual creators even, to get the cameras now smaller. Oh, it's not bad at all. So that's what you're looking at is just the computer and the sensor and that side piece So is the idea eventually that this phone is going to be able to do everything that that does?
5:26 So when they come out with a phone that has a camera on it, you just kind of expect it phone. Just the camera alone. It's an unusual camera in that it only has one fan of the camera, which has turned me into a fan of the rest of the phone. Now, is that the XL? It's glass. So you can take, it's like instant shutter. Those are stunning. It's never going to look as good as daytime, but there's a – I don't have the update yet,
7:49 you're pumping the ISO all the way up. But if you can take a longer what it's called happening on the chip that makes it that good. It's just fascinating that Google is And I haven't even – I reviewed it, and I was kind of skeptical about – Basically, the advantage to having more RAM is keeping apps open and running in the background longer. gigs of RAM. I'm not doing that crazy things with multitasking.
10:38 Every time I'd multitask and go back 5, 10 apps ago and open it, And then you get, obviously, this pure Google experience and this amazing camera and a great display. It's great. Is OnePlus running the latest Android? No. No. Who is? It's Essential phone? So OnePlus, I think a lot of it in the update, and half the people never install it or don't care, then they just figure
13:15 phones are they definitely are not first to get new software they're trying to do it quicker and things like that, but I never So how do you put that on the scale? So I don't give things numbers. max, this one right here, but I'm so sour on Apple because of what they did with the batteries. But then when I found out that it was real, I was like, you assholes.
15:54 Yeah. And the best part is they give you the choice now, but if you never look for it, you'll never find it. Because it's the thing that everybody always suspected. as long as possible, which involves not replacing your battery, which means we'll just slow ThinkPad. Just for stand-up, I have And with the Lenovo, you have thinner now uh and they'll give you all these reasons why they did what they did and there's
18:55 which is the really large gaming one. It's got, like, Alcantara, like you might see inside a car, like a soft touch on the laptop. Yeah. Yeah, the Razer... It's an enormous laptop And the keyboard's pretty good. I hope it does. So your fingers sort of sit in them a little bit. I think all of it is just you get used to it. You can prop it up at any angle, and it goes from a tablet to a laptop with this keyboard dock.
22:07 I think I'm going to get used to that. Yeah, they kind of got the edges right where, like, they wrap the material around to the sides. It's not cheap, though. What's the matter, Jamie? Oh, there it is. with the little kickstand, you kind of have, like, a couple notches where you can adjust than they do in 2018. Yeah, I agree. That's what it is. They made all these promises.
24:48 They made the i9. Which was to make it look good. There's no bezels. It's like on the table level of wherever you're sitting, kind of looking up at you. Yeah. Of the chips that came from all these, this server company, brother if you're Huawei and you make that now you have to convince people to switch from the MacBooks that they love to that. Right.
27:15 Yes, we have great design. We have all this better lower price, all this stuff. Yeah. only send a text message like oh it's weirdo either they have a flip phone like some cave Well, you know, what it is is they figured out with pool tables a long time ago. Yeah. They give you some vomit green. That's really true. Steve Jobs is dead. updates are almost daily. There's something going on with firmware or something going on with this
30:54 Yeah, you know five years ago. You would look at windows be like this is like some archaic I started that online. Yeah. And then once you actually got online with a computer you made yourself, you're like, this is something about this. It was modular fully. had to take this I think it's a man thing too. That thing. and the top, like all that stuff.
33:26 And now they're making this promise again, like, all right, we listened, we know that little trash can Mac Pro was not good Really? they update it at the event this month, but the Mac Mini is the only other tower they made they've got to open it up and make it Does yours have a dip There's a company that refurbishes 17-inch MacBooks. So you deal with a solid state
36:21 And the good thing is – I had to move it. Yeah, it's your chin at the bottom here. This came out on my radar in the last two weeks, and I decided to try going to bite me, and when I do, I'm going to want to switch like slot charger thing where it like goes in and out easily, but also doesn't have a a headphone jack, and what looks like Just online bullshit.
38:54 And if it has the ports you need, then you're good. Yeah, that Razer Pro, the Razer Blade Pro that we were talking about, It's a true desktop replacement. They love their RGB. The fact that you can cycle between colors or whatever at any time is almost pointless. It's a 4K. but then you get your higher frame rates It's so big. 100%. You're walking to a new room, plugging it in, and then setting up there. Yeah. If you're that guy, you're walking around with the power cable all the time. Yeah. 100%.
41:57 Almost. Everybody's pop-ups. You don't even get to the content. Yeah, that's hilariously low. So that means you're at 100%, you watch a movie, and then it's dead. Yeah, that's hilariously But still. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely rare. Pop the new one in, bam. That's really mostly what people are using them for. Yeah. Well, I think ThinkPads are mostly business oriented. I mean, that's really
44:18 You just need a web browser. But in terms of like local storage. And then whatever podcasts I have It's really simple. That's nice. Yeah. And I know there's a thing that's one of the things that people really I wasn't really using AirDrop until recently. I have to go into like Dropbox and upload it and then download it. Everything works really good.
47:26 Yeah. Why not? Yeah. They're live blogging. Here, take that. Well, you know, he was like, you motherfuckers. get off the Wi-Fi, and then this will work. I don't remember exactly. Well, he also was, according to, is this it right here? Yeah, so it's Someone said Verizon. So yeah I don't know. and I don't show you the demos. And the whole crowd is everyone.
52:12 30 minutes yep iMessage, FaceTime, AirDrop, walled garden. Yep. Wonderful walled garden of Apple. Google's tried to make their own versions of these things too. I'm sure. It is finally going to die. I want to call my friend up and go, for Android, you're going to make your own, great. Yeah. it and I was like, oh, I'll use this pen. And I've been like kind of somewhat convinced there's people who like, yeah, I use the S Pen every day.
55:40 I want to remember something. The lock screen notes. It's gotten better. Yeah. once, but kind of cool about it is the fact that you can use that pen as a remote control. Never use it. Yeah. Yeah. XS Max. They used to be kind of scared of batteries in the Notes for obvious reasons. Really? but they started recalling them and sending people replacements,
59:05 Yeah. It's a fucked up way to go. That's horrible, especially in a gas car with literal flammable liquids in it. Actually, that's been impressive of their reputation. That's better. What kind of nightmare that would have been. So we're going to get a new phone every April. because they had that sport model to have a rubberized case right and it was going to have completely waterproof and shock-resistant. It was going to have a rubberized case. Right.
1:02:22 Right. I've heard that the XS regular has better battery life than the XS Max Do you notice the difference? It's one gig less of RAM, weirdly. So the iPhone's got the shiny stainless steel outside. Yeah, exactly. now you have a brick in your pocket. with a case that has a battery in it, but jeez. setup. Yeah. I still take good care of my phones. People are like, oh, you get a new phone every
1:05:49 That's the Google phone. interesting perspective. He said They have, so he takes his phone and he flips it around in his hand all the time. He's got this next level thought process behind everything. And the reason why I like it is because it's more grippy in your hand. Yep. I Instagram a lot of photos. And then you kind of go, oh, interesting. My last one I compared Pixel 2 to iPhone X to OnePlus 5T to two other phones.
1:09:10 So that they're much more evenly lit. So another thing about these is it helps to see it in a high resolution because the difference in detail and sharpness between them is another thing I paid attention to. The two, the Pixel XL. So, God, but so nitpicky. because there's less distortion and they want it to feel more natural. That's a real camera to the Pixel 2. The Pixel 2
1:12:27 And Note 8 is just not as good. You can change how Note was doing last year. By a lot? And my iPhone of choice I carry because there's still things that iPhones do better, But you don't get text messages on your Apple Watch then? tracking now which is kind of Yeah. And that gamification of fitness has been, I think, pretty special. through it and a bottle of booze will line through it and uh you wear these things which is it's uh it's called a my zone and it it works with an app it works pretty good and it registers
1:16:05 And I'm not exaggerating. Put in another hour. Oh, Bert's trying to work out again, that slob. how many points they just got. I mean, there's no doubt about it. So it knows when you're standing, knows when you're moving quickly. But it doesn't give you any more points for 90%. So I think the reason why they did that is to keep people from killing themselves.
1:18:54 waddling around with blue and green, He's at the gym right now. Like wolves in the distance. 10 miles. Stop this before I throw up. Oh. It's really, I mean, all jokes aside, it's been really fun with my friends. yes no one knows then the last day you're like you son of a bitch he goes online he's 10 000 that's a fact my problem Do you play that Frisbee disc golf?
1:22:00 You play nine or 18 holes, and you're throwing and walking up to it. Yes, mostly one hand. If I really had to wear it for a week to get all the points. And I'm playing That is me. Definitely. Yeah, I just roofed him. Yeah, well, whenever you moss somebody. That's what mossing someone looks like. Do you do any strength and conditioning to prepare for this?
1:24:31 like doing box jumps and things along those lines would be huge for you. throw anywhere, but they won't necessarily go downfield and try to go score on someone because they're not as tall or as explosive. Meanwhile, a lot of things, like mostly throwing, mostly getting the disc back. I played for the JV team for the first two years, and all these other schools,
1:26:38 Yeah. Well, so the Pro League just is less than 10 years old. it's not very spectator friendly. So what we've sort of created is the AUDL is the American And they have a pro championship at the end of the year. So you're not throwing elbows or anything, but there are fouls. It's ridiculous. They push me away and it's mine. shooting at you, trying to kill you.
1:29:29 Again, stick figures trying to kill you. There's a lot of cool stuff to this game. Wow. He's mean mugging you and throws punches your way. There it is right here. Damaging. because I was moving and shifting Because if I was actually sparring, I don't think I would throw as many punches in such a quick succession. Is that Adrian? Oh yeah, my kids love that one.
1:31:57 And then there's these almost like And we started to get this little creeping up of, like, is that what it was? The Microsoft one? vaporware? Here's the... lowercase yeah above the screen like photos and videos, pop out. a stretch. And there's different, like, Yeah. and you can shoot 4-view with the cameras on the Hydrogen. but they've put so much effort into making it good,
1:36:45 This is amazing. be like worth paying attention to for more than just the first two seconds It's kind of interesting. I mean, there's still video files Whoa, this is weird, man. so I gotta figure out how to show it in the video if you ask Red they'll tell you yeah this is the future everything's going to be like this i'm like you got it i think in depth of space
1:39:37 what i think is uh that's the best way to calibrate to your eye like what it's doing around if you I did, yeah. So it was like, I can't wear it to class or like walk around. prism that would you could see but no one else could, I can see it. Yeah. So augmented reality is just like some layer on top of your current world. in front of you in the air Only they could see that.
1:43:15 It works for some things. Well, there's the, have you tried Bixby? That's the other you tried bixby that's yes bixby is even and turn my Wi-Fi off and it'll I genuinely use it all the time. yeah it's pretty bad yeah the iphone siri button gets pressed a lot but what i really like about But they genuinely, like, usually work with each other. And when you go into certain rooms, if you had a pin on, it would recognize, oh, it's Bill.
1:46:12 And then you walk back in and it changes back and you leave again. It's mostly packages get delivered to work instead of home. And then people are like, wait a minute. you don't want anybody to get away with it, do you? so I might as well get something back for it, which is convenience. How do you know when I'm home? Or like what sort of topics do you enjoy?
1:48:28 is it's going to tell me when it's time to leave based on traffic, They either own Waze or bought – yeah, I think they bought Waze. People have these sleepy little communities, and now it's like streams of cars going through No, it's excellent. And I never, I never would have imagined 20 years ago that we would be all addicted to our phones. And we're going to become more and more symbiotic with all this electronics.
1:50:44 Yeah. They both introduced that within like six months of each other, which is kind of fascinating. That's a lot of activity. Yes. That's amazing you're not wearing your watch. Yeah, yeah, I know I have a couple of friends that play ultimate with that on like under their jersey. What do you mean it syncs to a compression Yeah, I'm gonna get one of those.
1:53:18 just right but the sensors are making some sort of a contact with these Ah. It's not too late. from that to make that work just because you need like a contact lens you think of is just like this And when they do, they're like, look how amazing this is we've given blind so he had this carbon fiber hand that totally your hand and he seemed so normal and i'm like what if it gets like many many generations better
1:56:19 So together, they make an AR situation. Look at that creepy dude. He's wearing someone's skin. I don't need the information that fast that bad. Like that's pretty quick. I think smartphones are at like pretty much their final form. What are your thoughts on Samsung's foldable screens? But they had a a it was a phone Seven-inch screen, tablet. What's that? It was 6.3.
2:00:01 Not that bad, really, in comparison to That was like... No, don't tell me. phone accessory to your normal phone so it does almost everything your normal phone does but it's someone would want to get that so how close does it have to be to your regular phone uh i think it I think the Apple Watch sort of has it nailed, right? You never do. Yeah, Galaxy Watch.
2:03:04 but then had a mechanical hand so that it looked like a normal watch when the screen is not on. to you and say hey man you're you're really good at reviewing these things um are we fucking up here But for the most part, I think what a lot of people don't understand Yeah. And it's probably gonna be like a couple more months. So like when the whole like the whole notch thing was, you know, people were like, oh,
2:05:31 long is that thing gonna work that's the question it's gonna get some phones potato chips in there And that's another thing. But that's an interesting. Pretty much. you need an OLED display and you need the camera to be behind the OLED display. because it was stupid expensive, but it had a gigantic battery it had an incredible want that porsche design thing just to go look at me i'm a baller i'm a private jet bitch they did
2:09:00 I messed with the Mate 20, but not the Porsche design one. to differentiate yourself at this point. are you going to go pay $2,000 for that? and it's made it so easy to just bump up the price of your phone and not have anyone blink an eye. Like that's pretty reasonable, right? And I think that's what's convinced companies like Huawei. But OnePlus is interesting because they're really reasonable, but their specs are very high.
2:11:38 All glass, but no wireless charging, but it's glass. Trust us, it's the same, but for way less money. So far. I'm like, that's a beautiful device. It's just it's gotten slow for me quickly a lot of times, like I've been using Note 9. a Google launcher and you can use an icon pack to use Google icons, but still you're going to have I don't know what that is.
2:14:22 It's a lot. have you ever tried to leave an iphone i did like that's i did with a whole thing yeah okay it was I go, because I went with a Pixel phone. So then I call my friend. Nothing. with a new number you have to start from scratch and people get that green i think that's a big Not being able to leave? Clarify. iPhone after iPhone after iPhone.
2:17:06 And that was one of the things that at CES specifically that we kind of had a laugh with at our studio Have you heard this story? It's very funny. Like, you can see the data. Ah. She has a team. I get it. by people going, Well, I really love her as Wonder Woman. You got busted. underwater with it but you can splash it but 68 is pretty pretty damn good yeah 68 is the damn good. Yeah. 68 is the new iPhone, and 68 is also the Note.
2:20:44 You submit the phone for a certain test, and if it passes, then you get to say it's certified. But it's basically just water pressure. I'm a giant fan of your videos. Give people the address of your YouTube channel, your Twitter, Instagram, all that jazz. There you go.