Joe Rogan Experience #1193 — Shane Dorian Transcript

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0:00 Yeah, he's uh, I think he's too smart. He's too smart to talk to regular people. So what it is is a giant screen that's made out of Kevlar. the more it becomes ingrained in your nervous system, ingrained in your muscles, ingrained in your memory. competitive surfers and in high school, we all sort of met each other through competitions, competing. How old were you when you first started surfing?

2:28 Yeah. Wow. sort of like our own family on the road. So we were competing for a world title. It got too serious. when people ask me what i do for a living you know like i'll like i'll be in like a normal How do you get paid? That's my focus. just meeting you for the first time and doesn't understand surfing and it's Basically, I, you know, I, you know, I have a large surfing profile.

6:09 in our forties now. We all got kids and for most of us, except for Kelly, Kelly's still going. We all grew up in different places. Yeah. Whenever there's competition, there's got to be massive amounts of pressure. Whenever there's someone trying to achieve something or someone trying to rise to the top of a profession and you're surrounded by a bunch.

7:59 For sure they were competitive to see who could bring home meat for the tribe. were you really oh yeah I I remember I was surfing against this guy Damien I was like this raw kid from Hawaii. Did it work? like trying to like insult me he's like that's my goal when i'm in heat with people is to get them There's something about that that's so intensely emotional.

11:24 We're talking about this guy Stylebbender, who fought this weekend. How's that mindset? him in the first round but the emotional aspect aspect of the shit talking and the tension that it brings, because it tightens guys up. And if you could alleviate that must be inflection points where you instantly know that one guy is going to lose like something

13:15 Even when you think a guy's going to lose, The big black dude. That was so exciting. And he didn't know his mouthpiece was gone. Surfing. you're really riding the wave and you're being judged. That's just the way it is. and have peace in your life and going to the beach and and traveling to get epic waves it's not about like pressure and points Because, like, one of the things that happens to some, well, it definitely happens to fighters.

17:06 I don't know how you can fall out of love with surfing. Yeah. like she's got incredible balance, right? Like having balance would probably really help your ability to pick that up. What is it? surfing, you know, five years and they're pretty good. And there's people who surf 50 years and they've never been good. But what is it? Is it the basketball's in your hands.

19:36 you got the ball, that are changing in real time, But you're not reacting to something that's happening now. Surfing is awesome. That's really what a kook is. Yeah, that's just being yeah, that's how people get in fights surfing. Oh, yeah, which is common. Yeah He is. Incredible surfer. I've talked to people that have trained with him. changing i mean it's always movement it's always that's exactly right to adapt to that weirdness

22:42 How do I fix this? Is that what you mean? That's the biggest thing in the world to improve. But I bet he wishes he could surf as good as you. better at it like when you surf at a high level which is important to you now it gives you more Right. That just gives me such anxiety watching this. I get air on the way down. my life where I was in the right square foot of the ocean, when that wave came in, that was the

26:08 And I was in a perfect spot when that wave came in. Yeah. And so I think as an adult, you very rarely have those moments left. often man no they don't that is what what a lot of people like yourself or myself are chasing you're always have to let down let down wow they don't even take a bad shot they'd let down and just like i can't I believe it's healthier.

29:46 You can get meat at the store. way like really really good at it yeah yeah I'm getting good at it well the it afterwards. Right. And you just Or cook it on high heat, too. I've brought it down to 225 now. And so it just fills that, the inside of the smoker. And these pellet grills, like this table's made out of oak, right? It's so good, but it's just so pure.

32:47 My mom's has sold like a million of them already. It doesn't cook out the moisture and the flavor. I'm getting gems here. There's no like a little like ice pack or anything like that to cool it down? But if you wrap it in aluminum foil and then let it sit inside a cooler, the cooler actually allows it to continue cooking just a little bit. put it in a Yeti, it'll keep it warm.

34:22 game. Essentially, that's all he does. He's a good cook. He shot a deer in Kansas, drove from—or not Kansas, Oklahoma. I mean, he's constantly eating deer and cooking deer. Such a good crew. Yeah, that was ridiculous. Yeah, he was already hammered. Lanai, too, people there. That's a great thing is it's so easy to screw up hunting those axis deer, especially with a bow that it's crazy around every bush it seems like sometimes yeah that's a great thing is

36:59 Like when you're there, it's really obvious. The deer is so delicious. See, you're from Hawaii. You can spit Yeah. have a meat company for that, but he's able to harvest the animals in a really good way. And It's such an unusual flavor. I'm like, it's axis deer. If you can cook it right, especially axis deer. We generally go on this axis deer hunt a couple of months before elk season, so you get all the jitters out of the way.

39:42 Yeah. same way. I mean, in, in Hawaii, Hawaiians, in Hawaii, there's no season. Yeah, they're living in paradise. They had no idea. To see animals in the rut that normally would be super spooky, afraid of everything, He just taps it on the antlers. They're just wandering around. There was like 20 other cows right there that he had to service. He gets on top.

42:50 Yeah. Yeah. And there was like three satellite bulls, but there was one bull and he had 45 cows with him that he was herding that were his girlfriends. is that his name yeah he's like a human bull yeah bull elk very similar you know isn't that I think it's a goat. Mouflon's a sheep, but yeah, that's a goat. It's Mouflon, right? That's what it looks like. Mouflon's a sheep.

44:40 I talked to someone that I respect recently, and they said that the Elon Musk one was the Best podcast that's ever been made. we heard about? It's like all of a sudden it was just You're under someone's house. digging holes under the earth. planet earth i mean he's got so many different things going on simultaneously i just don't Incredible. watching the weather channel, it just does it automatically because it knows it might need to

47:41 And the power companies weren't down with solar really. so i live on the west side in kona the volcano is on the east side so is the east side is that near They call that vog, right? She came with me. oh, it's probably the vog. It was horrible. But it was basically like that whole, the volcano essentially had a crazy eruption for about three and a half months.

49:59 So what did geologists say? But it was just kind of small, but it was continuously going. It was lining us up for a while in a big old bang. Wow. So of like that elk. Yeah. Bang. It was lining us up by a giant chunk of lava. Like a tourist boat. These tour boat companies, it's pretty opportunistic you Yeah, especially when it's spitting things out into the air.

51:54 The time to think about what you would do is before you get on the boat. They're like jockeying for a position to get the closest unobstructed view yeah it's been erupting almost every day since i was born true right yeah yeah most of your life Camp? joint right there. Well, that's a weird picture, right? That looks very psychedelic. Is that big island yeah there's something about the big island where we live that is just it's alive

55:25 in like you know austin and san francisco and all over the world really and then he would fly back I don't think I could live here. Yeah. Well, Tokyo. Yeah, I love Tokyo. And how the hell did they get there? hyper-futuristic civilization there now. Kind of cool. You have a towel? What did you look up? Yeah. They don't brake. Yeah, they don't brake. It's a freaking state car. It's the move, right? They don't brake.

58:59 In Hawaii, And it'll go for 200,000 miles. Is that you? It's a good truck. straight up a mountain. Oh, I bet it will. I might need to get that for all the PETA that get upset. I always get these guys, let them live. But there's an actual name for it. Right. So cool. So it's just, I mean, the thing is his road with a winch. So cool. I was texting him going, dude, get the hell out of that tree.

1:02:12 bullets are whizzing by his head Where is he? Have you ever been to the Midwest during opening day? Yeah, they give in. They designed it and constructed it. That used to be an issue in Detroit. Line-X is crazy. That black coating, that plastic coating that they put on those trucks, you can take Line-X is that the coating? Yes, Line-X. Thank you. That shit, you could take a, Line-X is crazy.

1:03:42 That is Line-X. They make like a, do you look like Watch this. Look at this. It hits the ground. You don't have to worry about anything. Yeah. That stuff just doesn't scratch too. How funny is it when you see trucks like mine here in L.A.? You can't go underneath any underground parking. I got my lifted monster truck. And you go from there to here, where there's 100,000 people.

1:06:11 It's crazy. It's just a shock. Yeah. you know i mean that everyone who moves there is that's fine i don't think anyone gets mad at that People forget that, though. Owning a chunk of beach. the ocean. Like, my friend You're not supposed to be here. and walk on that beach. They've finally gotten the super ultra-rich category that the rules don't apply anymore.

1:09:13 Imagine being that person who's like yelling at kids cause they're in front on the beach. i mean you have this dope view you get to look at the ocean but enjoy that what's yeah but what's in these, So they're fucking freaking out. So We see is there any articles about yeah? If they touched you, it would be assault. You can't tell me I can't do anything. Like if they touched you, like it would be assault.

1:11:28 I mean, the whole thing is just crazy. You can't just decide. I just want to get far, far away from them and live in the mountains in Hawaii where I do. At that point, I pulled out the maps that I had and said, you know, this is a public area, Schwartz recalled. I think it was David Geffen's. Really? of the really you can't do that yeah mark zuckerberg did that um on kawaii really yeah he bought up

1:14:11 You can't just like storm in there, buy all the property up and block everyone out. Yeah. It's not a good move. He's like 34 or some shit. That's cool, though. Wow. There's a big difference between him and Elon Musk, though. Yeah, they made him look like a dick in that movie, though. who's still alive right now and put He got off light. you're like, hey, I didn't say those words.

1:17:19 He did those things. Everyone maybe believed Jamie, You would, though, wouldn't you? that's the thing maybe one thing if you were convicted in a court of law right So you have a famous actor the famous actor plays you in a movie and makes you out to be a cunt. I'll try a little more removed in this next take. He stole my ideas. Like someone was saying, how the fuck did they do a movie, Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Killer?

1:19:45 It was really stupid. But I was vampires, I think with an axe. I think he killed him with an axe. It was really stupid. where he's just hanging out You don't... That's when you know you got way too much money The guy that wrote the book throughout it biography Dude, my time is precious. You watch this movie? Is he watching him? Abraham Lincoln. That didn't make it in there. I watched

1:22:49 So they might have rushed it out to have it come out at the same time. Yeah. in some strange way where they're virtue signaling and behaving exactly the way Hollywood wants them to behave, to get themselves into perceive it, and your guard's never down. Yeah. serious? Yeah. He's a cobbler. He makes shoes by hand. That's what he does. Wow. And he's like does he have a company

1:24:58 like levels to making shoes that's it's crazy usually people go up not not you know up in intensity not Well, maybe even it's more pure because of the fact that it doesn't have any adulation. So, man, you got another dope movie coming out. I would talk to that guy for three hours just about shoes. designer and then he learned to uh in order to do that he reverse engineered a balenciaga dress

1:26:57 Just so he could understand the process of doing it. He did for a while. amazing in the movie The Boxer, too. Ward, it was like Mark Wahlberg knows how to punch. He knows how to throw punches, but there's a difference The movie with Marky Mark where he played Mickey Ward. It's a very good movie. and he goes, yeah, man. And you can tell it reeks. You know what I'm saying?

1:29:37 But, I mean, I would expect nothing else from this guy. You know? Let's try to plan something. It's infested. It's like a tank. March? You ever been to Oklahoma? of ohio rather I think the southern Cleveland too, but goddamn Columbus is It's flatter than most areas for sure, but especially down from Columbus down to the south area where the rivers go,

1:31:56 People don't think about it. You know? It's a mind fuck. I want to be the hunter. I'm going to hit up Dudley then. In like one of the best places in the world for deer. Prepare for it. Have you seen the heated sleeping bags? They have those things. If I can, I'm like stalking around, I can walk around. and move as little as possible. You know, is one of the things that's really interesting to me about, uh, hunting in cold weather is the

1:35:03 your body heat even if it's wet. Yeah. That guy to me is like one of the, I mean, because he owns the company. Great guy. Where were you guys? year and if they're not So they just have people hunt constantly? Yeah. all running but the pigs don't do that. They just go right in the thick. But with pigs, it's really difficult. sheep? I did. goats are an invasive species.

1:39:18 Really, if you talk to some wildlife biologists, they should be eradicated. came back. They're invasive. It's a wild animal living on an island. But that's the problem with someone like Ricky Gervais or Glenn Greenwald, someone like that and then they fly over with helicopters and gun these goats down. I have a friend who lives in Topanga, and they bought goats to clean their property.

1:42:04 They'll devastate all these local plants. mountains, but people don't want immediately have these knee-jerk reactions where they want to complain about it and do so publicly in a way that gets They don't see the parallel there. in this weird, I'm never going to stop. We skinned it. Because I've seen people, maybe they don't know it's a meat animal, but I've seen people get attacked for, obviously, for anything like that.

1:44:07 Like everybody thinks that lions are endangered or elephants are endangered. Millions. like 850,000 deer Imagine if no one hunted for like three years. How many deer. All that big bad wolf shit from when we were little kids, like little pig, little pig, Yeah. they like to live. They're never going to reproduce into like thousands. Yeah. They're, I mean,

1:46:48 Yeah. Yeah. They weren't there in 1994. I mean, I can only imagine. Right. these populations in check in order to keep the deer populations healthy and the moose populations I agree too, but the balance can be really difficult to maintain. hunting. Same with deer. You can pull that Finding a wolf is freaking hard, dude. They trap them, they fly around in planes

1:49:49 for a couple reasons. So it's all – there's a real problem when you get emotions and you have those emotions tied in to this idea of wildlife biology and what an animal is and keeping healthy numbers of these animals in a certain area. They're not selective eaters. for sure. native species too. All the ground nesting You know? I really do. I did it on the Opie and Anthony show.

1:52:43 The fact that people think that they are morally disconnected from the act of killing an animal just because they use a credit card to buy meat is so hilarious. I cook enough so that me and my family eat it and whatever's left over, I know I'll eat in the I mean, you and I have developed this perspective from years of hunting and being around people who hunt, and we understand it.

1:54:16 Yeah. Dad brings a pig home on the front of the quad with his bow, with a bloody arrow. Which a lot of people just don't have. Guess the population of the US that hunts. What population of the United States of America hunts? Oh, wildlife watching. No. What's the difference between that and a deer? Fuck Nemo. You go to a place, whatever it is, like a ranch where they process meat,

1:57:26 Imagine how many people wouldn't be able to do that. I don't think you should have to go to the garbage dump. I like the fact that I can buy a steak. I agree everyone should probably know what it's like. There's a problem if your meat just comes from a store. That's the case with farming You eat it. Like the Amazon is just getting whacked that I think a lot of the vegetables and stuff that we're going to be eating

2:01:01 I mean, there's probably some real benefits to that, but I wonder if they could do that with grain. or whatever on my Instagram. Oh, yeah. They always do that. They don't think cancer comes from meat. Imagine if all meat gave you cancer. You're going to get cancer, man. They always do that. But these people that have eaten meat, they don't just eat meat.

2:02:47 But when I eat meat, I normally eat meat that's like the size of my palm or smaller. they always say that like it's going to stay. That's not true too. That's all nonsense too. I definitely would want, like the, you know, like when you're having a baby and they put up like a curtain sometimes, you don't have to see anything like that. I travel like half the time.

2:04:25 That's cool. She loves it. They fucked up when they- I mean, she had a severe brain injury. It's basically like taking a person who's got a broken leg and getting mad that they She didn't know that lady was black. She literally said that. The new one sucks and it's going down the toilet. as incredible documentary. how she thought like black people would do their nails like it was super weird and then she ran

2:07:12 it was saying that she got all this stuff done That is a fucking slur. It's messed up. They're pretty good. Pretty strong. I have far more. I think some insane number, factor of more African in me than she has Native American. The world's gone wild these days, dude. Something like that. That sucks, dude. I'm being honest about that? You have a much higher percentage.

2:10:34 Tending to be a Native American. Yeah, he was joking about her in her, was I think she actually got a job at Harvard The idea that that is because of the fact that you're Native American. And where does it stop? It's not cool. Move on. Yeah. person somewhere, somewhere 1.6%. At Harvard. Yeah. That's a big if. Really? You got me, whoever you are. Sweet.