Joe Rogan Experience #1209 — Anthony Cumia Transcript
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0:00 I don't think that would pan out. Which is insane. He already has Opie and Anthony's show. don't have kids, with a machine gun And I sit there and just play video games. So the table itself is a gaming monitor? Yeah, to the table. I have a gaming computer that's just unbelievable. And I sit there and just play video games. Oh, on the table. Guys will spend their money on having fun if allowed to.
2:05 That's all I have. She relegated you to one room. So I dedicated myself. was miserable at home right he would talk about it he would hide in his basement i love those Like, when I started doing really well, we moved back to New York from Boston after we got fired, Opie and myself. they crashed because he was getting a blow job or something like it was going to get really
5:21 What year did you get on? them that night on a website that I figured out. I used to code the HTML myself and make a website out to thousands of people uncompressed and uh apparently um they had that happen a couple of Oh, God. or got bought out by somebody up yeah yeah yeah that happens to everything but honestly if it was Oh, look at that. Ew. Right?
8:37 Get pissed off because you like the thumbnail. Yeah, yeah. You can watch a porn video? But just for hours, just one more, one more, one more. Yeah, yeah. And just crazy. yeah yeah yeah with a floppy disc yeah make those sounds and hopefully it would work and Maybe for used games. Yeah, Xbox like the vast majority of it is now digital. some form of electricity to to get to all this information you're really dependent on that
12:48 ones and zeros and has to be decoded and and put back together again and some important stuff if Well, you engage too much. I go, I don't even know what you are, first of all. I have a Twitter account now, Louis Farrakhan's Yeah. kind of independent She chained herself to Twitter yesterday. You know, it's funny. stuff like that. and that's all she posted and she got kicked off for hate speech against islam and and then her
17:18 kind of pulling a girl off there wearing a star david thing it just a picture looks bad Yeah, yeah. It's not just a private company anymore that can do what they want. right we've also established that with trump sam harris has been on a he was at least i think he's of her White House correspondence, doing a thing, calling people losers, making fun of
19:53 He really is. very revealing yeah it is a weird thing this is i think this will be looked back on as a very And he says he looked like Elvis. I think he's pulled the cover off a lot of stuff. being Saudi Arabia's bitch They would never do it the way he's doing it. Who got all his money from his dad. You know? was that lady with the sock hat on her knees with the glasses screaming screaming like that to me
24:52 had some kind of control like they were they were adults doing the job that needed to be and then all these prostitutes. You know, no big deal. Politicians kill people. There's plenty of things on YouTube and even industrial films, just this thing of how a family, how to raise your family, how to be a good wife, all that stuff. like all these things keep happening and and even because of that like i remember justin martindale
27:47 I hope you and your son get a cell next to each other. The resistance. a throwback to And they're always kind of big girls. not as good as your compound media in your basement. I think Charlie's got a camera yeah he could bring for me to go on. Trump is finished. So that's the most obvious of the seven ways for Trump to go now. Mueller really Still going.
31:31 You see him drive by your house and wave. Yeah. I mean, he's a cold-blooded intelligence agent. I mean, there was a video the other day of Donald that they just played on CNN of Donald talking about how many times he's actually been to Russia. All this shit happened when he was just a citizen doing business. Now, whether it was ethical or not, at any point in there
33:44 because there's plenty of businessmen that deal with Russia and China. I think the question is just donald fucking trump yeah so it's hard to call him out on even dealing with russia because have to have some ducks in in a row to continue his business so you know and his son took over And the fact that, you know, There's no right-wing newspaper that's treated with the same amount of respect as the New York Times.
35:44 They'll fuck you. like that patrice that fucking comedy a lot of it came out of that part of the world because that out into the woods. Yeah, there is a, Yeah, yeah. Like, you don't grow that out here it's too sunny and people would stop and ask if he was okay. laying on the side Hey, buddy, you alright? of his dick. It's the worst. And it's gotten
39:16 also a little I think he's got some dementia going on like he just doesn't seem right uh it is Yeah. out yankee games and ovations and people he's standing with the uh he looks like a crazy person Yeah, look at that. That is... It's hilarious. He kept going after them All your mystique is gone guards off yeah a sweet setup The internet ruined all that too.
43:20 Murdered people. Yeah. like goddy was the first one that was like real flashy in public about yeah yeah they didn't like So they could record him. Like you didn't cross. I wasn't going to ride 15 blocks in a tricycle with Yuri pedaling in front of me. And you could yell at a cab driver in New York. You have a fucking problem? hard people yeah yeah you know what you you see that in the ufc there's a lot of badass Russians fighting in the UFC now. We saw that recently.
46:34 Come on. like a hundred stories Because they get themselves There are some things that are online. Oh. Oleg. Oh my god. On what is that a three inch ledge How do you do that? That is so high up. Right? A couple of feet wide. We have that HTC Vibe in the back room here. Oh, yeah. And there's one game. the height and you know you'd be you'd be fucked up you'd be like this i'm gonna fall off we have
50:25 Oh, yeah. You are in a space. And the PlayStation Out there though And to have the goggles on that long and trying to play a shooter like that, I think VR right now is more conducive to experiences than it is like that that's pretty Where the system maps your house, like the room you're in, off of your headset. So it won't be a couch. this cartoon character.
53:34 Yeah, yeah. and it's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's both. that little tchotchke on a ship. It starts with the doors open up and that little thing drinking the water, that little When people talk about pushing diversity in movies, this movie had a female lead who's a female superstar who, spoiler alert, winds up winning in the end and killing the alien.
55:46 You're like, what is this? oh you have to go to free roaming vr experience new yeah this just came out earlier this year I can't believe it's in the 70s. And that's what happens The first movie where Oh, cool. Oh, yeah, Penn. Yeah, Robin Wright. and that kind of uh atmosphere that it was like to It's never terrifying. experience down to a more palatable
59:48 I remember the trailer playing on TV, and I was like, all right, that seems kind of cool. They took models. You'd get the model glue and everything. Because although Star Wars was a great movie, honestly, Star Wars doesn't really hold up. Like, the monster face is like. like you think you can handle it and they're like yeah i can handle it okay let's see what's gonna
1:01:56 My mom and my dad took me, my brother, and my sister, when I was seven years old, to know them as a person. the car is just full yeah there it is it's it's so brutal it's crazy too seeing the girl get it show me a cartoon first or something because i don't know i don't know if it affected me it's And now you have a different view of the world. that the bullets are real this is there's a real thing that happens like with my kids um uh ever
1:06:02 we drove it somewhere and now we're here now we're eating it oh it's from a cow but that's like to them that's like Oh, it's fucking horrific. Fuck. And then my little girl comes over. I slam i slam the and she's like what are you watching and i'm watching the hyena rip apart and that was it people uh i don't know people don't seem to be shocked that much anymore i know
1:08:44 It's crazy It was a thing. I mean, that's the argument about video games as well, right? And he got in trouble because he posted it and it was like a violent thing against women. It's unbelievable. There are different animations for the same thing. Right. It really is amazing. Yeah. there's like a morality the course of the game You'd be riding somewhere
1:12:58 where he's done different things. Oh, jeez, he fell. That's really mean. Yeah, absolutely not. What are you talking about? beer. It was great. I know Laszlo Yeah, there's a part of the game where you have to infiltrate. They didn't react any differently. But the job, I think the mission here is to just kill. The Klan? Nothing? No. They don't freak out? Not in particular. They didn't react any differently.
1:14:42 There are some weird parts in it where they're very misogynistic, because it's supposed to be like 1899 or something. It's always some scumbag character. I get alpha testing, beta testing. It's a pay thing, obviously. Or you can email them and say, They have a day where you can bring your dogs in, A game like a Rockstar game, GTA or that, for them, but they're so
1:17:34 that. Call of Duty and fish. And you catch fish? I love open-ended games. like there was all these things that you used the keyboard for and i thought that was amazing Have a little snack? A little snack. look back and go how you doing back there oh you gotta see this great kill there's a video a funny is in the room, she takes her clothes off get close to showing what it's like on a regular flat screen but uh when you put that in it's a
1:21:08 And it was very strange. It was just a years later and there had been a gigantic leap in improvement and now the leap is sort of balanced Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I always say, But there's something called So much more accuracy. Yeah. Well, they weren't good back back and you get dizzy like you get so fucking dizzy and crashes are startling like like if you
1:23:59 Recently. And he was doing like loop-de-loops in the sky and shit. We all think everything's so secure. By a plane. Yeah. He might have abandoned it. I think... Well, they are. That is like the dumbest version of I know you are, but what am I for yeah you can't what am i doing why am i engaging that that is like Maybe that might have a, just like everything else. But it started off on 4chan did it yeah like free bleeding yes exactly
1:26:56 And no, not just believed it, started incorporating it. then they well listen we were talking It's amazing when you think about it because it makes you question everything. Yes, he's very much a provocateur. So we had this employee, Ben Ratner. And we always questioned his sexuality and whatnot. Is this what you like? Oh, it is. into this gang this club was that you had to recite five breakfast cereals while the other
1:30:56 A specific black shirt with gold piping on the collar and the sleeves. compound media show through the compound media show and his own twitter account and on facebook And Antifa would show up to protest him and try to shut down the event. group of people that are there to to hit people they don't agree with and silence people that want to speak. Wow, that's... there was tears. Wow.
1:33:55 I've had Gavin on the podcast. and they shoot you when you get out of your car right like this is this escalates people don't Yeah. that they're going to go places they're going to shut everybody down and because they're in a group And now they're all on Adderall, and they're hitting people with bike locks. But those were constantly being disavowed by Gavin.
1:37:08 It's not that there's anything wrong with being a vegan. So they can say, oh, Proud Boys, Yeah, that's what it comes down Even though he wanted to hang out in a bar with a few people, do his public speaking without being hassled, and that's it. the short on the side, that come over my house And what you see them do in the media is just crazy, It came out of that.
1:40:35 through history i don't need any more uh piled on me well what was that thing that i'd sent you That is so crazy. the face of the new Nazi It's very punk rock. Yeah, like falling down. All of that wardrobe that guys are wearing, they look like they're wearing old-timey suits with the skinny ties, that's Gavin McGinnis. Well, he also did some really good interviews online.
1:43:15 And they realized some of the line of questioning they weren't really meshing anymore over their advice so they Interspersed with, again, parody and sarcasm. these are people that are mentally ill and there's and uh there's a website that he was pointing to bodybuilders get it they they they never think they're big enough right yeah people have like
1:45:45 wider your shoulders get bigger like the whole deal your hands yeah your clit grows the size of like in his on stage really good friends and I love the guy. you just bought a new place, he became the go-to guy over at Sirius, A Chip Chipperson? and and it's so much fun to do i love playing the the straight guy co-host to his What are you guys reading?
1:48:38 I knew from the first. We did a whole bit on like Lacey Peterson and Scott Peterson, the murder. just kind of sitting there like not really able to jump in or not kind of getting why we're laughing at this sick shit. I worked for fucking living. four hours a day he was more like he had to express himself a little more 20 hours of the day that didn't involve Greg Opie Hughes. So I could deal with it.
1:51:26 And I go, all right, get everyone from the show in here. Yeah. come to your house yeah like is there like you asking me every day and i'm saying no and i'm It could be an hour and a half based on if someone's pulled over on the side of the road, Right. He wanted something to talk about. And there were instances like that all the time. if you talk to Jimmy about it
1:54:43 fucking with him he really gets pissed. I mean, how many times did I do this show? Dozens, right? dozens right yeah yeah i don't know how many times i did absolutely but i always felt like what he did really well was like sort of guide things score the points though are the ones who everybody wants to talk to you yeah you ever see uh i i think of opie like
1:56:57 The contract negotiations were a nightmare every time. new years and the you know all that crazy fucking radio we were damaged goods after the sex in saint And Opie had put church on the list. and he's doing the two-point conversion. guy fuck his girl in the ass yeah yeah there was a lot of theater of the mind going on too Well, we both had our finger on it going like, shit, do we punch out of this?
1:59:42 You move your finger one inch down and that never happens And CBS was like, we can't let them go to mornings. So it was the most lucrative contract we ever signed. you work you'll still get paid and dude i'm talking millions of dollars this was millions I wrote a big piece on my website about how ridiculous it was. and I go to my chick, I what do we where why are we going
2:03:28 And we were like, let's see how many satellite radio antennas we see. to people you know you want you want to entertain people you want people to say wow that was good fucking clinging by a thread so many other um that's why they bought pandora i i guess I remember when they started playing commercials. that you can't get it in hawaii i think i told you guys when i when i went to hawaii on vacation
2:06:17 What are you going to do? And then it's transmitted from the people on the ground up into the sky to the people it's very weird buy Pandora You know what's really weird, though, can't let it go regular radio especially am man i remember as a kid my dad having the am like music Yeah, it was some weird, one of the local talk shows, a weird local talk show in LA
2:08:47 six o'clock news that i don't already know in depth it's also the lowest rung of show business Yes, I remember hearing that. Because you put your camera and your microphone in my face. Get the fuck out of here. It's definitely not fun. Terrible. what's his name from from uh and was it nbc brian williams uh well brian williams they kind of got They were?
2:12:03 Oh, yeah, yeah. It's so crazy because he's got some access issues. They all had that button. and just start fucking yeah gave him a bag It would wind up getting tossed. That's abusive. one yeah yeah there was a woman who said this on i believe it was cnn or one of those talk shows Have you ever seen that photo of Howard Cosell standing next to Bruce Jenner and O.J. Simpson?
2:15:16 When he was Bill Cosby, the stand-up comedian raping women. Come on over. He's almost blind, apparently. How about that? And that was the thing, that Whitey Bulger, all throughout his time of running the Irish mob, was ratting people out. Yeah. He was in the mob ratting out other people in the mob while he was Well, someone else would win the lottery.
2:17:48 They were giving up competitors. And, you know, you're driving the guy to his death. And then they started, I mean, he wasn't even like hiding in Montana or anything. I watched some of those shows He got what he had coming to him. he definitely got what he had coming to him i don't see how anybody could argue that apparently he was beaten to death before possibly having his eyes partially gouged out with shanks.
2:20:00 You don't think it will, but then it does. I love it. a different set for every show it's a green screen and then we just pop it in uh pop in a background I'm the guy. I have video games to play. I can't be bothered all that shit that i can't fucking be bothered i have video games to play i can't be Are they comics? morning show that's uh yeah that's aaron and gino uh kevin brennan who is just a mental patient.
2:23:24 How many is that? just a little danger there might make you a little lazy as you're doing it. It fucked up and we couldn't stream. all the shows available can they download audio as well as video yeah yeah audio only um uh audio people that you have you gotta keep them happy and they would do things to engage with them and had the greatest line once he was being interviewed and someone said uh how do you how do you make a
2:26:32 We'd set up the camera out by the pool. it was hilarious it was fucking awesome trends and whatnot and uh maybe more of a hybrid thing because it's a balancing act of bringing new how long is the show gonna be six two hours four to six i could i could go out at six and base than we would if it was free with spots. But do you want to cut down on the paid subscribers and boost it up and then how far
2:29:34 And I do, they're all live reads. as harsh as they were i was really fucking angry angry like five years ago when I started this whole thing. off as very angry some reason i had to do almost like a political show um because of the fact that you had gone I mean, you know, the preface everyone gives is, fucking love Artie. a co-host or something and he
2:32:22 every so often because world of the 3 a.m phone calls and not being able to find him like oh fuck what did we get and you need some predictability what was what was bad about it well it was the the attendance issue He filled in a couple of times when we had him as a guest on the show. He crashed every car he had. he he gets it he uh we don't step on each other he he knows exactly what to throw in and when so
2:35:51 love that it's cool you're doing something different here and you you you basically you And regardless of how many subs I get, the overhead is going to be barely anything. But for a while, they were doing their show from my house, which was so weird. who are these people? This is a little weird And it was the weirdest. And then Gavin was doing the show.
2:38:17 I'm just, I want to watch TV. which works great. So it works out. Yeah. out and show them anything because it's it's insane it's a fucking airplane hangar this is giant and uh everything in every corner is cool one horizontal, one vertical. it's also really good for real-life situations. It's not a still picture. Because you're pulling back 70 pounds all day long.
2:41:51 man you really did this is amazing just an amazing uh accomplishment like you're no you're the guy have it work. We were watching the news. yeah yeah all the news feed and you got video to go with it and you do a a stoned out or drunk new show yeah with comics we we have a guy michael malice that does No, I thought it was. And Gavin was on that one.
2:44:52 We were all drinking and laughing. he's been really reborn a couple of times like he was supposed to be done after that trans thing goofy yeah aspect of it then they'll have you know the regular straight lace guy why don't you have He is a non-person. with that yeah are you okay with a faceless corporation uh deciding what you can watch and see and hear and who can speak
2:48:01 yeah yeah this is nazi germany type yeah exactly like how is that okay that's It's based on which way the culture is swinging. ridiculous left-wing woke being prejudiced but you're being prejudiced with a stamp well you've got a stamp of approval yeah I can't call on any of these rules. Of course. Yeah, yeah. If you thought that you were going to get pure drinking water
2:51:02 that happened during the Kavanaugh hearings and whatnot. Once you're equal, you can be called a shithead. Right, why it's not valid, and you can still say that you're you're being a minute the fact that it happened so fast is like if that would have been hilarious if it And the fact that it came out, and that it came out that Bourdain had paid this kid off.
2:53:51 it instills this lack of appreciation for reality yeah that it seemed it all seems so bizarre and A lot of that stuff, it seems like um it everything works out too much like i still every time i see him walking down the stairs at air force one i'm just like You look even a little bit like Elvis. Fat Elvis is my favorite it's like a creation you see the whole back
2:56:42 that weird That was, That's what it was. World War II. why are you fat why are you fat get it i don't think he thinks he's fat i think he's like I this, I that. He's taking some form of amphetamines. all sorts of different... and what you're getting when you get Adderall And then the dosage that you get is obviously regulated if you get Adderall. Oh, awesome.
3:00:16 And I said, I can go much longer than this if you want me to. We'll see who's amazed. said that is so hilarious would you imagine wrestling him how weak he must feel like just a I was like, what? He's a bully. Meanwhile, I don't believe that. and Biden would be holding his teeth and blood coming out of his mouth isn't giving her an accounting of where all the money that she raised uh online was going to and he apparently filed
3:03:00 So this everybody just wants attention What? It's a disaster. trump has nothing to lose is is what it is right like trump could say anything and he does because like all these different things is donald fucking trump donald hate him all day one of my favorite hillary quotes is really I would like to be the queen. Like, you could tell when he's squinting
3:05:39 about ICE and he's like the men and women It's so He's not even unraveling. It's just Right. yeah that's what's the weird thing things these people that want to be in power She's a great actress. Shut the fuck up. no no they have to push every correct button and say all the right notes and make all the right It's just, again. Leslie Jones. And the girl that plays a and darrow uh
3:10:13 That's so weird. story you can i can understand you can cast a black actress and a white actress as part is that his fucking mind yeah I have a whole bit about I heard it the other night it's fucking brilliant Do you know the movie Frozen, the little kids movie? Like, what are you doing? of everyone everyone's super concerned about diversity like i have a friend crazy pitched a
3:13:18 Yeah, yeah. distracted and you can't really enjoy the thing like that king kong thing like like how do you Oh, old white dude doesn't like when a black woman gets a role that's designed for all It's most of the story. gonna have yeah yeah woman of color that's that's one of my favorite criticisms is how dare two From who that can go fuck themselves.
3:15:24 We shouldn't be discussing these issues. That is true. Like, you can't even communicate about something. No, no. A person of color. Otherwise, we are two privileged people. We shouldn't be discussing these issues. It's just the way it is. You're taking these people that are, they are a minority, they're a small percentage For now. and it's out of place.
3:17:25 least diverse room i've ever seen in my life a bunch of white nerds that's all it was there And I assume it's based on qualifications. things that drives me crazy it's like you know address your white privilege recognize your white privilege no you So the discourse is not, Yeah, do white people have it easier than people who get racially discriminated against?
3:19:36 So you're finding someone you want to make them a bad person just by being the thing that you've decided is the oppressor. When it's ridiculous. He goes, I never met a racist in my life. He's been to the wrong places. And he goes, hey, look at that. When you allow discrimination against men who aren't rapists you go oh okay so you think everybody's a rapist well you're fucking crazy
3:22:27 that upset 20 years ago that that now it's an issue or were they giggling were they like i That's an odd thing to do. that he's this abusive person who's abusing his power. ck like the superstar filling out madison square garden louis ck yeah it wasn't the same guy you It's not even close. distinction they went oh yeah get off the movie you can't be an ocean saint No No You become a rape apologist
3:25:20 Did it sound evil? all the time if you read expected you think there aren't on unperson you don't think there's an un Alex Jones unperson government they fucking like like oh boy you're gonna the government's It's like, oh, EasyPass using a divorce case to see what the husband was going here or there. Alexa isn't this magic thing that everything happens internally.
3:28:18 be like i don't have an answer for that like yeah i don't need that shit i don't know what it's Because then you can go to the app on your phone now it's a fucking crime right uh You'll be exiled from society. And we bring it in our house no fuck you you can't even move to uh montana anymore in a cabin and be off the grid it just doesn't imagery things for
3:31:16 right there it's crazy yeah and i think we have the dumbed down version like the military has that What like a disc or something? How come the satellites driving of course when it's off when it's i i don't trust any of these electrons i use them took out the power grid, Society just, the first couple of days, now could you imagine if that was you trying to get your kids medication or something or food
3:34:19 You just sit there. Depending on how much you use to natural gas but i like the fact that if the gas breaks too i can still at least jack a an lp the power is just gonna be on yeah that the water is going to run, What a bunch of fucking just weak, soft, know-nothing, and we trust that it's always going to be there because it has been. Joe, It's fucking nuts.
3:37:04 Yeah, he's got a book out. Permanently suspended. I love it. Always good seeing you, man. Thank you, my friend. Thank you very much. Cool. Oh, the book, yeah. Anthony Cumia, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, he's got a book out.