Joe Rogan Experience #1210 — Tom Papa Transcript

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0:00 Interesting how promotions work. But he said, no, I didn't see the fight. absorbed. he's the white guy that got knocked down okay and dionte wilder it's he's it is he's strange He looks pretty big though. It's just a bundle of snakes. He was mostly getting outboxed. like Lazarus. I know. I'm doing it for the kids? Like $8 million. He's a fucking really unusual guy. Yeah. That's great.

3:16 6'9". he's a world champion so he's like he was a world champion he's got bank and uh almost killed Oh, my God. And went into a depression and started drinking hard, partying hard, a lot of cocaine, and just fucked his life up. but when you're doing becoming the heavyweight there are those personalities and there's genetics involved Cheers. This is good stuff,

6:03 It's like this. And he lit up like a We have extra cases. Cigars are like that as well. Everybody wants something that's hard to get. We were eating at this very nice Italian restaurant with a bunch of people from the UFC. for a bottle either. He knows the good shit. Me and my buddy, my buddy Mark De La Grata and I were in Florida. You ever have a nice bottle of wine?

8:18 let's go fucking crazy. duran was the champ when this was bottled there's like stuff there's stuff about it I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it. I'm telling you. Yeah. and then there's other wines I've never fucking opened it once. i've learned my lesson i was doing a show on saturday my friend had a laptop she had a glass and that's a lot. Totally.

10:46 say hey i'm thinking about buying this pool cue what do you think i'll go okay well here's what Oh, man. It was so stupid. There's jumping and then there's bar It's really like miscueing Have you seen this before? Well, this was a cue that was made a long time ago. Gina cue is actually right here in North Hollywood. What would you do with that? It's the most expensive car in the world.

13:40 Rarely a guy will play with a 24 ounce cue and you're like, wow, that guy's crazy. I have one of his cues. You're an asshole. He's very wealthy. He makes them all by hand? were a guy who wanted to buy a pool cube and you just you know went to a website right you're you're You see, Paris is going crazy right now. right now yep they're wearing these yellow reflective vests and lighting things on fire

16:54 It keeps getting worse. Four people have died. As part of his many economic reforms, announced the gas taxes early this year to minimize France's reliance on fossil fuels. Don't you understand the American way They went crazy. up? I don't think the price radically Whoa, look at this. Somebody was telling me about this. So then they thought it was like an attack on both people.

19:50 That just happened in New Jersey. Maybe I'm getting a fucked up version of the story. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's what it is. Caniero. How does a guy go from never killing anybody to killing a wife and daughter? Can you imagine the panic? I mean, I understand you're mad at a guy and you fucking hate each other. his sister-in-law it said he's accused of killing his younger brother his sister-in-law and their

22:17 What the fuck, man? then lit his own house on fire to make it look like he was being targeted. Fucking unbelievable. Paul fired multiple shots, striking Keith. Found Keith's wife Jennifer What were they doing like the week before It doesn't matter, man. Like, what the hell? But do you believe that there is a real presence of evil that it's like a thing that takes over people or takes over – you know what I mean?

25:27 it's just about survival, right? like 18 elk So they just can't help it, they just tear them apart Their instinct is to kill because that's how they survive. And then there's selfishness. That's my people. I had an Italian girl take a swing at me when I was 21. Epigenetics, well, let's Google it so I don't bust up the actual definition. than the alteration of the genetic code itself.

27:51 inactive genes that do not and this is this is a very um this is a very controversial yet um very uh fascinating field we are a combination of nature and nurture i think that's safe to say and i think that there you Right. It's so funny. Like, he lifts up his leg to piss on things. And they'll bring things back. Out of a black lab. Woo, woo, so happy to see you.

31:09 Doing the same exact thing They're savage folk. Yeah. nurture part of it who knows what was going on in this guy's life that you know okay so here we have And you know people in business together How do you stab an 8 year old? How do you stab an eight-year-old daughter? I've never had it. Cheers. I'm lying to myself It tastes just like it And you're like, no, no, no.

34:39 obviously there's a lot of biological diversity, but for the vast majority of human beings, If they're rolling up a CBD joint, right? So if you're gluten-free, you can drink Heineken. you know um there's one episode of the opium anthony show now that i remember this oh my god i forgot about this I was almost telling these people to turn this flight

37:02 I found it. Oh, it's like there's an issue yes. No. You find those people at martial arts places. or four tables going there like so three or four tables would be like uh six or eight people playing gone up, economy and they're working uber they're working it's like there's a light upon them that comes down from heaven. There's something off. It's like, no, if I, I did this gig in Colorado once.

41:50 Let's play. sitcoms that you could be on and that's what everybody wanted everybody wanted their own sitcom could have your own audience and he could have his own audience and she could have hers yeah and all They're not paying me to say that. It's Joey Diaz. No, I know. I feel so thankful. I'm just like so thankful now that he did that He's better than he was before, and he was the best before.

45:07 And she's like, oh, she wants, because she doesn't, she's not part of the community. And that's what a lot of people don't have nowadays. It's a huge, huge building. Nobody's friendly to anybody. Yeah. and uh because uh friends what is it maybe she has more of a she has more of a sensitivity and like she knows there's something other than there's something spiritual going on mushrooms

46:59 Come on, get out of the house. like the catholic church no the catholic Church is the worst. It's the worst. party you can't be a part of a community you can't be a part of thing if it's not perfect The idea was to establish a place where you have an experiment in self-government, And then that country – I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence that out of just a couple hundred years, that country emerged the greatest superpower the world's ever known. That freedom allows unprecedented activity in terms of innovation, in terms of creativity, and not being suppressed, and not being in total fear for your life for any form of dissent.

50:07 It doesn't matter. So there's no real freedom of expression and there's also this real desire for conformity this real desire to establish that You have a gay friend? And it really. He can't go to Russia. And they can express that. You're not allowed to have any sex. I have what she has. And she wants that. look i go to um a beak room yoga i go to hot yoga yeah the 90 minute hot yoga and that guy i don't

54:10 Yeah. and then kicked them to the curb, Yeah. It's sexual. naked and sweating together right you know and your friend is right uh in that there there were some women He says this. that will pay one million dollars for one drop of my sperm well it wasn't yeah but why it wasn't million dollar sperm interview It's like when you're in a powerful position like that. He's very spiritual.

58:41 If you just ate a lot of zinc, Yeah. People pay $1 million for one drop of my sperm. He looks pretty good For a 70 year old Like the whole There was 18 elk that were killed by wolves in these surplus killings. So in his fucked up, twisted brain yeah everything that he said there made By the way, I've taken a lot of yoga classes. You spilled wine? The church of yoga.

1:02:19 killing his brother's wife more horrific the guy killing his brother's wife and then kids like the most horrific things in our life are war yeah murder rape those are the most horrific things in our life are war, murder, rape. Those are the most horrific things in all of life. too i'm like i can't be one as a man because they're not real because like male feminists

1:04:05 Not that women haven't done awful shit and falsely accused people and killed their kids and women have done all those things sure some women some but the vast majority of horrors Let's see. Jamie has hip problems. I'm on the good people of government, law enforcement, fire department, military, the good people of government. It doesn't just do that.

1:05:48 One million dollars for one drop of my sperm. you know you can you can get into a comfort zone we just want to take baths all day right you know I don't know. you know, conscious of it but then there's always like these this rise of evil that like comes up like horrors are done by these men and stuff who when you sit and like kind of analyze them and they've been the victims of a

1:09:07 Why is all this horrors of life? right the numbers are insane yeah we can't understand that we we literally were monkeys So three people ago, people were these creatures that had to make fire to stay warm. Isn't that the thing that they use? i don't know if you're no it's so good but he has this thing on the the mongols called the wrath of 1200 AD, not BC.

1:11:28 Sorry. Right? Yeah. Ish. Other way. Other way that's 818 years ago. Right. Yeah. But if you're watching a documentary on that and you're watching those people move around, You realize like, oh, these are just people. So why can't we figure it out dude because And they just did that for a long-ass time, man. So look how they digitally remastered it.

1:14:22 Just happen to be. nice wheels to their wagons, all that kind of shit. what i mean like it's insanely selfish it's not like we went from having to like eat each other He had a plot, and his plot was to save himself. And they never grow and so like a guy like that if he was so psychotic that he could on it and just be just like watching the monday night football and then the next week he's like

1:17:06 the guy's dead you know they'd probably i don't think he's thinking that deep he can't be thinking they will interact with other people as well. Energy is real. There's like an energy to that. Oh, you should read it. Uh-huh. You could say something rude to a person just because you're tired. I'm sorry. Were they bad babies? that you're creating more bad shit by feeling bad about yourself because you've done bad shit.

1:21:25 When you put good out there, good comes back. and the people that are out there you're playing with it this energy of all of us out there Well, if you want to get really spacey with this. Like, what's our purpose to being here? And they're buying stuff. Right? And there's all these is expressed in material possessions. I've got a jet ski. And as we keep making stuff, it's eventually going to get to a part.

1:24:37 Yeah. yeah which like from sesame street remember he was used to be on sesame street right yeah he was the of any evil. to us being here cool air filter you bought that The wing nut. knowledgeable enough to fix my own car, but I I didn't have money. Put them in. that's like a rhinoceros on roller skates No steering, no airbags. It was so easy to slide your car back down.

1:28:01 That Camry handles way better than a 69 camaro yeah fucking no better Fumes were everywhere, man. of New Jersey. There's something to it. yeah you can fuck yourself rest of the world Let's have a good time. Yeah, it's the 69, I think. Dude, this is gloriousness. This guy's an asshole It would. It is pretty bad, yes. It's not safe. happens let's discover and you could get good things out of it right but imagine this imagine

1:32:37 that's right it's for the john wick movie right dude there's a company that's making these now, too. They're called Classic Recreations, and they're making these brand new versions of that car. vinyl they just right there they just nailed it whatever the vinyl. They just nailed it. You don't know if young people would like that? insanely beautiful but it's also stupid well how so sir it's just metal right in your chest cavity

1:34:45 the 79. You need the 76. Seven Legend. Those fucking cars drive forever. Just having that crummy car is a good thing. Are we just finding our way in the dark and this is what's coming out? country this constant competition economically and everybody just striving to achieve and do Four, yeah. They're going to keep going. I want you to be able to give me a pill, and that pill releases a bunch of nanobots that

1:37:25 Like a kidney stone. Yeah. them out later. Like buckshot. That sounds real. Clink, clink, clink. Yeah. Like a kidney stone. They want to be safe and exist, eat whatever, but they just want to be, they want that safety. right that's the ultimate threat to the organism the organism would commit commit violence and war I think it would be a giant difference in terms of the way you felt.

1:39:19 i mean we should all get along right whether you agree or disagree about certain political issues or certain social issues. so like if i if you were offered a job as a stockbroker and this is a guaranteed job, you have a guaranteed contract for the next 20 years, you're going to make five times as much as you make doing stand-up, but you can't do stand-up anymore.

1:40:27 What a lot of people are doing is just chasing the money. achievement there's a feeling that he has the way he interfaces with what he does for a living You're just a fucking guy who does your business. fortunate that you don't have that in your life. They love being with their family and teaching soccer, pursuing the best stuff yeah and you this is what fuels so many people for like these status symbols

1:43:02 The differences are tiny. what's not except other than the cigarettes yeah he can't but in terms of like mental health but Those two doing it. It's a great idea. uh like comics should really appreciate like if you're a fan of the art form like david tell yeah he's just he's such a smart guy like uh he just decided at one point hey this is Sit Bert down.

1:46:30 He doesn't give a fuck. What is it? It wouldn't be real if it wasn't. don't have time to really do it and i was like this is how people become the guy in the neighborhood Yeah. Richard Dreyfuss. Of course. Jesus Christ richard dreyfus of course jesus christ You didn't hear about that one? Oh, legit people? harvard scientists say aliens makes plain bizarre interstellar object yeah I saw that and then I

1:49:49 and don't change speeds, And the guy's like, The fucking cops are behind us, Dave. A space rock traveling through space. What? Like a rock, right? Exactly. That's what life's about. that has to have happened right you're getting killed by a booster rocket flying out of space And they're talking about things like dark matter. Well, it's also the, I mean, it's amazing what we do know.

1:53:49 I think it's all oxygen and this planet is this far away so it's definitely going to stay within a And we're definitely not figuring it out because we're saying this amount of big. Maybe it's so we can really go. Right. Well, it's beautiful. You go outside, there's clouds floating around. So many parts are not the best. Right? preserve themselves and others. Yeah. Yeah.

1:58:25 You can get these little diseases, little bugs, these little things that are off, you know, and then you have an immune system that battles the bugs. And all of us together, like the way we interact with each other is generally nonviolent. Right. The North Korea dude or the Russia dude. from all over the world or all over the country at least all these different places and they're

2:00:48 That's the good and evil. If you look at the facts, if you look at everything that's come out, there's no denying that. That there's some place where people can get together God. That the reason why, we can get another bottle of that if you want to get fucked up. look something up you haven't looked before a reason why I don't think that was it. That's, you know, which is not much of, I mean.

2:03:27 Where'd they get all these buildings? those things that you you see the wealth it's like going into like a pirate ship and seeing all the You think that the idea is that this is like a bad guy who lost his way. Oh, no. Oh, my God. It's a horrible thing to do. It was like a thing. I barely knew him. get groomed and indoctrinated into being a part of this thing that does that to other young boys

2:06:28 It's so bad. Yeah. Like East Coast only? East Coast? in that house largely because of Oh, so you have to be a priest already if you're Episcopalian, and then you're allowed the gospel that was talking about being married being with a woman. And then he finishes the sermon, and then he goes into a sermon all about being with live your life and what kind of relationship you should have.

2:08:58 What are you doing? a regular person like you're dressing right now and no pointy hat no pointy hat no no fucking And so they're going to get away In a bad tie. And you're dressed in Joseph A. Bank. The little triangle ones. with a giant, huge sculpture of Jesus nailed to a cross behind you and there's organ music up there and dudes playing bongo drums and people passing around

2:11:39 Was it the Limelight? It was a church that That's a big crowd. With those gin blossoms all over the face. Stop it. Hold on. Then they started selling shit in there. you yeah that would be my spot even if i had a gym at my house i would definitely go to that gym Yeah, it's like reading or just being out in the world. the new it's the new prairie home did anybody else call you that or did you decide to call

2:14:31 And I do a monologue each week called Out in America. I follow all the shit you do. I do it every week on NPR. I didn't talk to the person driving. I don't take my headphones out. Boring ass fucking story. even like the biggest slug you'll find, Holy cow. I can't believe it. I'm still impressed. You might want to lean yes. My question is, with a donkey mask on,

2:17:54 Everything you can think of has happened. Right? The one thing I don't know about wine is when I do drink it, I never feel that drunk. Yeah? we're in orbit oh really oh that's we're in orbit I was listening to myself talk I was like you're so hammer. I was listening to myself talk. I was like, you're so hammered. Because you don't seem, and you did more than I did.

2:19:32 I think there's benefit to it Still bugging you? So you lay on it and have it massage your inner gut area. It's like that. But it helped, right? oh yeah stretching in general like all that shit so good but it's just so weird how like deep tissue Do you feel like, I feel guilty sometimes that it's got its little paws out just running She doesn't seem unhappy.

2:22:00 It's definitely not. He was crossing Wilshire. And he's using this place as his gym. He was slim and fit i don't So we should just make it less conspicuous. It's too hot. Why can't a man wear something that just like Like a Like a You know what I mean those ones red white and blue remember those yeah dude i used to wear those when i was a kid And they'd match.

2:24:41 There was a time... It felt real cool. Being allowed to wear them. Well, that's obvious. You're a piece of meat. Would they like me? It's not their problem. Those guys aren't woke. I see a trap coming. no real there's no test you take to show that if you're woke right right like like if you want to I know how this stuff works. and aware of the failings and the misgivings of all sides.

2:28:45 I don't think so. And you took these people through. Wow. don't jump salty on me whoa look how they talked back then they were trying to talk people into What he's saying up top. That was my fox, man. Maybe it's girl. You were copying my taste and grit. And grit. So how would you say that now? That was my fox, man. Oh, what words would you use today?

2:30:28 stop being such a bitch it's all good it's all good yeah and then it'd be like what someone's I can't tell. If you're woke, you dig it. Stay woke. and those tails it wouldn't be surprising because that's all about just i'm doing what you guys Oh totally Yeah go to any restaurant anywhere and no one would even bat an eye they go hello sir um can i help

2:32:34 He's real old school. were dressed contemporary but the guys in the end they're making fun of people the way they used to I believe Noah Webster. Like, Woke. Yes, I mean, for sure, if it really is a system of oppression. How do you define what the systems of oppression – like where does the line get drawn? peterson the way he's just like hammers just yeah well then what are you what are you saying

2:36:13 It's a crazy argument. Really? Yeah. I mean, Yeah. And when he talks about something from a scientific perspective, he's not talking about it because people that support most of the things that you and I probably support. And it also, the system he has all these different lectures where he discusses these things podcasts where he discusses The idea is what we should all then oh thank you

2:39:52 that there's a real problem right attention yeah they want to throw their hat into the ring they want their their their their say about the person you responsible for you doing you despite whatever comes at you because everything's american figurines for whatever it's it's not good they haven't oh no talk about not yet woke Because this might be one of them untapped things that people forgot to get outraged about.

2:42:28 Like a shoebox of stuff. And she just had a postcard because that was circulated that was being pumped He was a slave. I didn't fucking put them guys. Oh. Right. You know, I mean. I'm trying to stumble across it instead of actually seeking it out. Yeah. There was another murder case, and they confiscated the Alexa because they know the Alexa will So this is, what is this, a doll that you could make a slave?

2:44:55 Chain around his neck. You're supposed to represent a pirate who was formerly a slave in historical context. Represent a pirate who was a former slave in a historical context. Racist Toy Instructions? Tune in after the break. him kind of brownish right that guy looked like he had a tan looked like he was uh like a spaniard Yeah. Wow You didn't have church when you were a kid?

2:47:14 You know, Catholic schools cost money, too. to church or make you go they did a little bit i think the idea was back then that if you had kids nail i'm gonna have to sit on a nail in the uh in the closet and stay here all night i hope you And then I wanted things to have order to them. What do you mean? Like you would- God says this, God wants that. Like I would say that.

2:48:48 But then as I experienced it, my grandma was or my mother was you tell your father to get that money in like there was a weirdness to it that just didn't seem loving or it didn't seem like I remember crying. And then all of a sudden you're going to school to these crazy ladies. I remember being like six years old thinking this. I didn't think at the time they don't have a girlfriend, but maybe they do.

2:51:13 Yeah, it was just dark. interesting not that he believes god exists because that's sort of a yeah it's a bit of No, I don't. Like, if you talk to an ant we're the way we interface with reality so crude even though it's amazing yeah but i like the idea or don't and it's hard to do it's hard to do especially when you're busy or when you have That's a great place to keep your head.

2:54:27 And if you feel like getting away from you because you're too tired, And I think this is something that I've been guilty of in the past. And when you get to a certain state, But I think that people do that too. afternoon two o'clock in the afternoon four o'clock in the afternoon that nervous system shot right All that stuff that's happened just between 7 o'clock and 3 o'clock, whatever would happen, that nervous system has been dealing with a ton of stimulus all day long.

2:57:36 Really? And it, like, your physical body needs a rest. And how long have you been doing this? And I did. you do this every day every day every day maybe exercise you get into like a zone and you you Because it's just your nervous system, which is very powerful, has been rebooted and is now able to go and deal with another situation. It's very practical.

3:01:58 I would like to hear what your take on it is. I'll do it. What's the big place that's in Pasadena has the biggest one in the world? You're up at 7. your mindset into put into a particular place is super beneficial if you're just creating things It's not a pristine thing. It's not a pristine thing. we're all under assault all the time, right? swim in the ocean you know whatever the fuck it is yeah something that gives you a perspective

3:05:40 about travel is it allows you experience the feel of someone's culture in real life like seeing the ruins that were mount vesuvius erupted yeah all these people and you're wandering through And get your news Of other stuff to think about And go the other direction. But literally just looking the other way, running the other direction. Yeah. Imagine that growing up.

3:08:30 and it's all yours and you can have it yeah when you turn 18 but you could give us some of it now I used to buy his comic books. look at it look at the name of it it's richie rich the poor little rich boy right that's what it was to the picture, please. the guy from the shining and he's just gonna come over and be proper yeah normal Why don't they do that?

3:11:15 Cadbury? Bring over that Sunday. sat at a table before look at that blow that picture that kid again out tell me he doesn't That is hilarious. Lotta. She's big. When is a badass rapper going to recreate this picture for the cover of his album? That would be a perfect picture for Gucci Mane and his wife. Yeah, and I don't remember it being like, they weren't really sending a message like, money isn't important.

3:13:57 Cadbury, the perfect butler. Look at the size of her arms. he takes off his look at him on the left he's jacked he's going into a hot tub he's got a towel on and no shirt Where do you even find a towel that little that makes it all the way around your ass? You covering your dick or you covering your asshole, but you're definitely not covering That's so funny.

3:15:59 Another one of the pedophile conspiracy. at least, right? Thanks for the wine. And what is this other thing? Probably tomorrow. Tomorrow? Thank you, everybody.