Joe Rogan Experience #1212 — David Goggins Transcript

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0:00 So you're real, man. The book is great. I've read it, like sat down and read, read. Then you come on and talk about things in between. i'm like man this guy has a great reading voice i love his But it works. Well, I want to say we're good friends. I'm just joking, Adam. I don't know if you for you as much for some strange reason. I know it doesn't make any sense. Well, I want to say we're good friends.

2:04 Well, it comes across across the book is outstanding and you know it's it's it's more than just nuts you think about a person like that you think of them as in this like static fully formed version what's that show called? Just going up going down going up just a real raw version of how my life was in You look so crazy, so evil. tell people man i i go there i go there that's one of the reasons why this book is so good is

5:31 They had to have a lot more than me to get to where they're at Your upbringing, You know, I can't hide. pursuits right because it doesn't matter what your social status is. and that's where i started learning that that life is one big psychological warfare that you a whole nother battle started becoming. He hooked you right up, man, with the perfect place. You were training for the first 18, 19,

8:23 And I became a literally a master of what I was scared of. I was scared of my mind. And I became literally a master of that mind. It's like these things really did sort of set you up to start from scratch again and just go, okay, roger that. point and then from the sidewalk i found a cliff then i found a mountain i got way up high on top I had no self-esteem.

10:32 That's such an important point when you're talking about the working out. Don't look at it like, I didn't care about losing weight. So I watched these movies. I talked about Rocky last time I was on here. I always equated training to mental toughening. It always And that's when I started to develop these things through working out. It was this great,

12:30 And I struggled my whole life, but I ran from it Like an armor for your mind. I just started being very uncomfortable. I mean, I don't know if people believe in God or what. I heard my whole life saying, hey, motherfucker, what are you doing? was pain over there was me looking in the mirror over there was me being accountable for all these I was a character. I was trying to find myself through a character. I was making different

15:52 said but it was i was just a funny dude i you know so that was my thing i was the funny dude that And that is, it's a long road to hoe to get to the guy who says, now, you don't ever smile on any podcast. now so there's a lot of parts in there was a lot of me against a lot of white people Yeah. I'm related to that big time. So it's so many things I had to get over, you know, and I found humor. I found humor in my

18:38 This happened. soul to begin with and my and my brother he has a story that he could write eight books you know So when I was going back through my life trying to fix who I am the fucked up person I was granimal he's a he's a he's a vicious man he was a vicious man i mean medieval motherfucker And I had to make peace with it in myself. Like a lot of people have situations where someone does something and we all attack that person, like on the media.

21:36 I got that he was he grew up rough. He had he was very insecure, had a lot of kids and his insecurities just trickled over onto us. So yeah, he jacked us up real good but he never fixed himself so if you never fix yourself go when you have to lose what was 106 pounds in three months yep to to to qualify for seal training So if I couldn't read and write, I learned to read and write.

23:37 And so that's why I kept on quitting and going back to start or not knowing how to get through hard times. fire and I just beat it harder and I beat it harder. Before I knew it, I started realizing, You must put it in the fucking freezer and freeze the fuck out of it and then you dissect it dissect it when it's miserable dissect the brain when all life but for you it's a system of of failure and reflection and then rebooting.

26:06 I'm taking you there with me. I'm a storyteller. I want to take your ass down paradise. So the What made us who we are? That's how I train my brain. That's right. You've really done so much. But the idea of reaching this golden year, He is a hard man. The two of you guys Good Yeah It's going to be on He's got- So I'm supposed to do it this year, but now we'll see again how the schedule goes.

30:10 After me being all sick and jacked up for so long That little black contraction That hard plastic thing yeah it's phenomenal it's evil man Well, the problem with these races is the problem with people like you. the headphones come off bro it's you and your own mind right i know how to do that that's that's I listened to it on repeat for 17 hours. a place, man, that

32:47 So I broke it out. I'm in the gym right now with all this loud music. People need it to get fired up. They need it to stay And when you're doing this, I'm like, man, once that shit comes off and you get popped in your fucking mouth, and there's going to be I was telling him You listen to music You know what the hell I went through, brother? It's the ignorance of the world.

36:14 what I've done and I was like you know what I struggled so hard in my life I went through so to people like anybody that you know I mean biographies are very always valuable when you about your life I just like, you're bullshitting me. I'm getting itchy listening to you. It's not like someone orchestrates this whole thing. I know this one dude. Look at your body.

39:35 Exactly. Unless I'm authentic. And another thing Eating donuts do all those things and you show how you did it, You don't even understand adversity. They love nonsense. finish line it doesn't exist you know what's funny about that is i have people now so when i was in the So the hardest part, you got to see who you're hanging out with, man. Those are just like,

42:37 Why are you doing this? Exactly. People don't want to go in deep, man. And we start going away from the most powerful thing we have is our fucking brain. That ain't gonna be in there They think of calculating, mathematics You've got a total different approach to it than the average person. this record people are like oh my god i went right to a pen and paper like what are you doing

45:38 soul of anything in front of me. So that's why I came up with a thing called taking souls in my there's there's three shifts there's eight instructors three shifts because you know They have their parkas on, it's usually cold, coffee, drinking their coffee I was better than that guy. boat crew two. Everybody's beat up, man. one motherfucker this is hour one so i was getting my boat crew all jacked up.

48:04 And I looked at my guys my broker So Bo Crew 2 got a lot more sleep. You have nothing left to give and give more. miserable i learned how to really find strength in the misery Roger that. You're going to have to learn that on your own. right now great pleasure in that almost makes you know it has to bring a passion out of you Because sickle cell is not a good thing, obviously.

51:47 Yeah, he was always sick. Then he wound up dying. Were you just not drinking water while you're doing it? but. it was basically I went home that night. So when you did get back on the pull-up bar, how fucked up was your body? Yeah, I had pneumonia, and I had really bad stretch fractures. And what's crazy about that is they healed. So you just pushed through the agony, and eventually your body just said,

54:42 And what was your heart surgery for again? So they went in with a Helix patch. And, you know, I became like a Navy SEAL recruiter when I was, you know, doing this for a while. the hospital like that's just how it was man it was it was barbarian stuff man but you know you it heals, it's not going to heal right. It's going to heal all jacked up and crooked. So I'm a crooked,

57:00 But don't worry, Cameron Haynes. I'll see you soon. that now I'm in this huge stress routine, and my body's getting back into alignment. have these little tweaks here these little tweaks there from the fact that i am now my body was My fattest, hit that scale on me, fuck this. it it wasn't it trust me it was hard it was hardest thing I've ever done in my life but

59:22 Just lay in her pond. My god, you actually lost that much weight that fast We want the six minute abs approach to life. Well, people are terrified of this thing that you're saying, that there's no end, that there's no finish line, that every day is a new thing, And whatever my 100% will be, I don't know what's going to happen to me. the quitting mechanism of your mind.

1:01:43 You can take these lessons of struggle and you can apply them to anything. You get a wide range of life in just 19 hours. Without friction, there's no growth. There's mind without friction there is no growth without friction know him yeah jaco's don't know him great but i know him i i know him pretty well he's awesome It doesn't end. And I don't want to scare people, but the truth answer is I don't take any days off.

1:04:26 Light day. 50 push-ups. So I have all these different things I mess up. Every night. Is this just because you're trying to correct all the years of not doing that? I've done hot yoga several times. I'm trying to get full range of motion. before you know your joints are out of whack you need to get full range of motion before you know It's all these different ranges of motion

1:07:01 Never. when they learn new shit What do you do it for? It's from repetition. But you also want to increase your range of motion. Yeah. Yeah. Back when I was that guy in the back of the skinny guy, that's what I did. very thin right very thin guys like when you were talking about the first time you ran 100 miles He said, hey, Goggins, come here. But I also knew he was coming out there to watch me.

1:10:50 in his life i use that for a lot of fuel so that gym workout mr silverback gorilla there was a lot How did you not get rabid over that day? I wasn't gonna get out of that tub. I knew I I knew I was done And she called my mom up, and her friend there was a doctor friend of hers, Hey, I'm gonna sign up for it. I went on to Iraq did you know did deployment when I come back?

1:13:22 So then, you know, my boys got killed in that incident that happened, Lone Survivor, you know, the whole Operation Red Wings. I took off. I was peeing blood and pissing shit on myself. I'm like, hang on a second. I get to half the mile. and I was off the pace, and I just kicked it. It opened these different doors of possibility. We are leaving so much on the table.

1:16:17 You are you are fucking yourself up by not examining your brain. And it seems like there's no way And then guess what happens the body Yeah, like, Don't run 205 miles at one time i'm not You know you should be doing things, but you just keep doing it. I'm looking at my shoes for 30 minutes sometimes thinking, man, fuck, man. As long as you do it. And sometimes you don't have the time to look at your shoes for 30 minutes.

1:19:09 better get your ass up at four o'clock man you get your shit in brother because i had to get my shit So much not the SEALs. I grinded hard. in i made sure to always do that and i I did it to a point to where I think attitude and i i own it in my book i come back from ranger school a big time leader i was a It is and a lot of people didn't like me. hawk i talked to all the time yeah he's a great friend of mine when the hardest my first before

1:22:52 Because I started realizing at a young age what I was leaving on the table. they didn't want to they didn't want to keep up with? I would say some people. Some people. I didn't want to do this shit either, man. And we would do, like, these. and I got my ball of fuck yeah I was the same guy, man. and I saw them, It ain't. You know, I wasn't you know

1:26:28 but I ain't going to talk bad about them. but a lot of times, a lot of people should have been a little bit harder, too. how i looked at you and you know you can you can kind of say this you know so what happens i started And I just, I was just a different fucking cat. Yeah, I have a lot of guys right now within the community, a lot of guys. about when you ran the marathon you realize how much you were leaving on the table because that is um i mean i think the the unfulfilled potential is the story of most people's lives it is it is

1:29:33 and you're talking to adam brown about his life and you rip it down i'm next in line david goggins I want them to have a board and them up there right now getting their pin out. I've had to grow up a lot except a lot of the fucking things I've done in my life place and what i call it is i'm always paying rent in that seven dollar a month home every day

1:32:26 going back to where I'm at now, and then moving forward. And how are you feeding that beast inside of you? Yeah too much noise in your mind. You're not going to be focused on what the task at hand is you work out five hours. True. They always have that chatter. All day long. her all that that was me man yeah that was a lot of people yeah why don't people like me

1:34:49 Yeah That's like leaking out long workout session then you can just be you it's the great purge man the purge it's the purge I mean, maybe it's available through meditation. i'm a big planner i'm a big planner. I'm a big planner. But I've been doing that for two. Loved everything about it, the discipline of it. and i'm either thinking man this is some of the hardest fucking work i've done in my life

1:37:50 And you get done digging Right there on the floor So I got drawn into it because I was always looking for the next challenge okay hot shots what's the hot shot dude they go out with you know big fires and they dig fire making yourself grow you're looking for those cameron haynes's those joe rogan those people Well, the proof is in the pudding if you're really doing woodland firefighting

1:40:53 just doing it as a challenge that's it does they freak out when you're there you know what i i and I'm going to dig this fucking fire line for three damn miles. That's what i've been doing my whole life is I find these little sparks now, when I leave those young guys, a crazy choice to make though woodland firefighter is a very interesting choice it is it is it's a

1:43:38 What I what I found out is that with no crowds doing every day. And I know that I am grinding like a motherfucker. They see a one minute video giving like these little motivational things. Sometimes it'd be 3 o'clock in the fucking morning. so that's how this happens man message And like If not, Merry Christmas um those people going on troll fuck you ain't trolling my shit i'm gonna block your monkey

1:47:43 Do what you're doing. It's become like a big fucking like, hey, it's a community of people trying to fucking get better. You want to know. I'm out there somewhere. Yeah, well, that's giant for people man that Rest and recovery is the most important thing. There's a lot of people looking for built-in excuses. add to that momentum right once you get going it's's easier to keep going. That's it, man.

1:50:16 There's a lot of other people out there. Nope. And that's what that book says. How the fuck do you? I'm fucked up. I don't care. You don't need any Go You're the one who has to stare at those shoes for 30 minutes you know you started moving to these desk jobs and that was the challenge of it you know i'm like a Little punk ass bitch It's like you're a rookie man

1:53:10 know like right now there's people listening this podcast like oh yeah you're great Goggins no with that shit oh god is that so yeah that's a never-ending pile of fucking tangled bodies and So it'd be nice to do that. beginning 100 there's plenty of guys your size there's plenty of guys that have been doing it for fucking decades That's what I know.

1:55:30 But to have Start at 100% They're at 60 He'll tap you. That's good shit. Get your black belt. the right way to do it really is to drill way more than you spar okay you should be drilling all But a guy like you who's smart and tough and will go crazy, shit. Right, right. He goes, I'm addicted, just like you. It's everything. trigger and then all of a sudden you're throwing that boat in the air. The mind always has the tactical advantage over you.

1:59:17 It's going to get you, man. stroking themselves or bullshitting themselves and the message just won't come through right but this What are you thinking about? Tell me something about you. You are chipping away at your own personal sovereignty. I know something about you. The grind does that And squeezing that fucking soul out every day makes you grow up it's also the being honest about it every step of the way the way you are in this

2:03:11 why people that have accomplished great things and then want to talk about those great things I'm like, fuck, I'm slipping. I get after. And a low heart rate. How so? So if you go at 80% And the higher it goes, the longer it takes for it to come down. day because why as a as my mind and as a human we're supposed to move every day is supposed to And like taking a carbohydrate drink drink it gets all that good carbs

2:06:18 Is it a wrist one or a chest strap? You can have a strap do your finger know what your average heart rate is, you know, your resting heart rate. Is it a smart watch or is it a polar watch? that whoever created this, like the heart rate zone training. Just by opening up my range of motion. You know And my joints Do you run on the street Hell no. You know what I'm saying?

2:09:26 So you like them You like it Fat tires Game over. Got that little click one Adjuster thing A little bit when I run Yeah you're barely feeling shit with those yeah you're running a cloud yeah but i like it Yeah With those fat tires This is so much easier He was running a marathon a day, like pretty much every day. I did it in, I think around 40 hours and I had to walk the last 60 miles.

2:12:18 Same race. Asics I actually Because first of all Yeah so Brooks Hang up. But the only shoe I could wear was that Brooks Addiction because my biomechanics was so messed up. bent in for people just listening you're if your hands are flat on a table you're turning the And my feet were so fucked up. and an insert. I was like, fuck it, man. with this kind of tendonitis

2:15:24 My God, I was in all these different contraptions. Like, no one understands. To unwind this motherfucker, man, was like, it was a hard task. So I was always under this like tight neck tension fucking guy It is I'm sure they will And just thank you Thank you