Joe Rogan Experience #1240 — Forrest Galante Transcript
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0:00 all right here we go five four three two one yes how are you man what's going on joe i'm stoked I mean, I'm kind of a combo. I mean, it's got to be, like, kind of cool to live like that for a little bit. and every, Joe, I'm not kidding, every single cast was a fish. And it was amazing. i know like you think this should be like teeming with life you're over these reefs and you see like
3:04 been this kind of ongoing going conflict in columbia for many many years so we were in colombia and amazon and like talk about untouched by people there's been this kind of ongoing going conflict in colombia for many many years so we were the Like, there wasn't a lot of smiling or crying. Yeah. What? Exactly. Yeah, the whole world. Oh, absolutely. It's amazing.
5:22 They don't even know that they're in Colombia. Yeah. they've they've been doing that their whole life their whole lives yeah now when like when i say uh how do you say that horana horani horani horani sounds right horani you think horani The guy's got like- notice like i say the feet just like that specifically but the way could like, everything's covered in mud down there, right?
8:00 We must have looked like infants today. missionary was killed by the people in north sentinel island absolutely which is one of the And that's it. It's totally unrelated. different infections do they treat it do they have like some naturopathic cure or some shit I couldn't tell you. The weird thing about that is like, Do we help? You're there and you're like, I want to help.
11:35 ringworm like are these guys covered in it they have big patches of it like what's it like feet With me you always have to check People really fuck up where Like there was an infant, maybe not infant, maybe three years old, to be honest what it was that he left with him and what about like injuries what if they break I mean, it's nuts. the real deal i can show you
15:00 hours by speedboat to a village that had a or to a hospital really and so he got there and his life was saved but i asked we asked the the people in the village what I have no idea, because his leg was shattered the bottom of the kayak yeah i'm like fuck that's awful imagine being the guy behind him and My family did safaris. peligroso you know very dangerous don't do it um but preter grosso means very dangerous peligroso like danger
17:12 Maybe driving home, you see one skittering into the bush. there like what what would you have done if someone got bit by a venomous snake or a spider antihistamines and i i'm not actually sure if the medic administered the EpiPen or not, but he was like, we're in the middle of the jungle, we're six hours from a village that's then a full day's travel by a charter plane from a hospital.
19:05 i've been doing it like my whole life i grew up in zimbabwe my mom was a bush pilot so when we we've had some pretty close calls. They're, they can move i mean this is that this is uncommon to have one chase the boat Scare them away? How fast is that big bastard run? Exactly. A rhino runs 31. Jesus miles an hour. Yeah. What does a person run? A rhino. A rhino runs 31.
21:12 Yeah. Top speed for a sprinter is aroundinters around 21 22 maybe but that's not Oh, of course, right? He's gotten malaria three times. Ugh. times yeah and one time he got it like he didn't even get bit again the malaria Damn. Damn. Yeah, malaria is terrifying. I mean, people are worried about so many different things. kill it says like five and a half million people on average per year, every year for all of human history, and that's not possible.
24:37 But what else is new? Really? did you notice my hand was sweaty when i show they're different but it's different it's similar vaccine huh like he didn't have it got vaccinated and wound up catching it from the vaccine and i And they did a little bit of tourist walking safaris. That sounds amazing, but fucking terrifying. apple 15 minutes later i'm in handcuffs and i'm like what did i do what did i do i literally had
27:47 I was chained up and I was like, my whole life. i mean i mean it's stupid but there's no way you could live like that over here i mean there's no way you the world so we do these walking safaris and then we did canoe safaris as well, which is why I have so many hippo and croc stories because we'd be canoeing down the Zambezi River and then taking photographs and seeing wildlife that way.
29:30 intimate understanding of animals because i grew up completely surrounded by them now what other to do with looking for the Tasmanian tiger? Yeah. Yeah, I did. What do you think? I think of all the extinct animals that have gone extinct at the hand of man, given the range, I don't know if you know hiding out in an isolated pocket of habitat? I totally think it's possible.
31:16 Wow. i would say the thylacine is like the icon of animals coming back from extinction for australia right it's kind but you've got to think they have some intel that says look we're not wasting our money to look for Yep. blah so it's just this small group of kind of like people in the middle of nowhere and almost minutes and he's like i'm trying to get a picture and you know that's it's like 300 yards away it's
34:16 Wow. It's a gut feeling that it's there. Yeah. Bastard. It was a weird movie. It was a Willem Dafoe movie. Yeah. The Hunter. The Hunter, that's right. And he goes and shoots the last one. Yeah. It was weird. But that's how they died off, right? And what year was this? It doesn't even look real. What's this marsupial thing, and why didn't that catch on anywhere else?
35:58 Well, coyotes are kind of like that too. How does that work? So you do like a grid pattern, right? So you know how a trail camera works, that university is going to be the most comprehensive trail camera survey ever conducted. if you're at a university, That's not a thylacine. Could be wrong. like a tiger. Very similar to a coyote in size. so yeah i think i think you know if the university had something they're trying to get enough data to
39:09 Have you seen that photo or the footage, rather, of the jaguar that they found in Arizona? mile stretch of desert and into southern arizona probably bored it could be looking for cool cool During the Pleistocene? There would have been a lot of prey for them. have been large primates that we attribute to bigfoot sure whether they're still here or not
41:59 and hair samples and photographs and video and for people don't know what we're talking about huge you don't know how big the the men are right they might be small and it's in front of them there was a really terrible movie i know the size of that fucker yeah that's insane yeah that's one That's the camera trap. one walk by a truck like walk across a road they said it was the same height as the truck that's
44:25 Yeah. That live on the ground. Yeah. isolated a population of them there really my mom just got back from the congo and she still does you have crazy sweats like especially if you're in hot sun so i i would rather be more focused stuff's got to be bad for you too though no it melts you like if you get it on like say these When they're out, they're out
47:14 Crazy, right? And we got out of the car mosquitoes do not like it really so that's that's one of my cover-ups. Explain what a hex suit is for people that don't know what we're talking about. Yeah, there you go. Sea turtles use magnetic poles to migrate. okay and he he swears by it yeah yeah he wears them constantly goes and it keeps that in capacity so i think we sense that i think certain creatures sense that
50:31 is people that are interacting with predators, that helps them migrate around the world. at all times a snake hook yeah it's a snake hook uh so it's just this like it's like a golf club interesting animal in the wild canids man wild dogs of all kind are unbelievable they're so and then coming together and making a kill i mean it's mind-blowing stuff you know you talk about
53:09 You're dominant, I'm passive. You know what I mean? black spots and the yellow and all the stunning they just they they look angry they look freaky looking It's escaping me right now. It's great. or proof that they're still out there is, like, drives me right find this pocket find this animal that's been hiding out undetected for thousands What's different about it?
57:06 I'm scared. I don't want to give away too much info before I get to do a chance a chance at looking for it but after all the research i've Wow. Isn't that crazy though? Because you like to fuck with white people. This is the last spot for you. Why would someone lie? Yeah. alive for a bunch of weird reasons people do it people are crazy they make shit up true yeah yeah
1:00:00 Oh, for sure. they jump around with black panthers oh they're just fucking with you and Well, do you know David Cho, the artist? facebook what does that mean like the wall yeah the inside they hired him to paint like do these Yeah. I mean, how big of an area would there have to be called the saula it's an animal that i'm actually working on later this year and it is a an antelope
1:03:10 documented it because it's just this incredibly elusive animal like whether it has super sensory sure, buddy, whatever you say. also have a even more compelling need to search for things that are not quite sure they're not quite sure if they exist or and find you know like find out new discoveries and invent new things and explore new worlds. that's that's kind of that deep-rooted desire is like we need to know about this thing in order to
1:05:48 Little person. Like four feet. all over the world that other people used to hunt that drove to extinction Yeah. Have you ever seen The Gods Must Be Crazy? It was like the old English explorer would go and conquer africa and and hunt these people Yeah. Central Africa for sure. goes there. Very impenetrable. that perhaps flies sure it's possible is there a pterodactyl as we know it i highly highly doubt
1:09:44 Yeah. Nobody goes up into the highlands there. They just found a dog there, as you saw. I mean coast there's nothing right you know there's all these huge chunks papua new guinea same thing nobody goes up into the highlands there they just found a dog there as you saw i mean Yes. passenger pigeon isn't like 90 of everything that ever existed extinct sure absolutely so does the
1:12:11 died out died out over 300 generations during that time something would evolve within the environment When you put something back that's missing from the ecosystem, They flew across the ocean? Anyway, they were like okay helicopters there was a lot of pigs that were causing damage all that kind of stuff we removed whole ecosystem is back in balance. Had it been left the way it was, what you would have found
1:15:05 Offland, it had big trees, tons of food, blah, blah, blah, blah. tree to build build a boat or make firewood and everybody there died oh shit. So that's what happens when you use up every last resource. And did they get this from fossils? How long did it go for? it quickly became overpopulated and its resources were rapidly depleted. See the next one there?
1:17:41 And I think there are some things there now, but it it's barren there are no trees there's no you know it's all been depleted it's so crazy when Sure And they gun down those goats Stop eating seeds so you don't shit it out. I mean, it's the dawn of evolution. volcano it erupts every year it's this crazy harsh environment we have to have a new pair of boots
1:19:54 so that's well over 100. Right, totally. there's all kinds of things that have been brought in there. have you ever been to lanai i have yeah i yeah. It's crazy, right? I was diving there. I was spearfishing there. Like hunting is a tool for conservation. long time ago so back then they i mean i don't even know if they had guns i mean how were they
1:22:11 They're all brought in for sport. No, it is. to me it's 100 of moose and so they're in theory somewhere down the south island there's one or like a big old shaggy weird looking thing this is the area where they think they are That's the last one that was last picture taken. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, that's 100% a moose. That's a pretty clear picture. Yeah.
1:25:10 You're giving me that new word. to basically make this Frankenstein animal, because it's like part like a mammoth for instance they would have to take some dna from a mammoth right pull out a bar from an elephant and they put in a bar from um a mammoth and then eventually you get this mammoth and so this would be with like gene I'm not a geneticist.
1:27:45 well the valid reason is to conserve the ecosystem right like we talked about but Sure. But does that mean it's actually good for the world? Maybe it's just some scientist's clever way of sneaking it in because he wants to play god like yeah we're gonna fix everything yeah you right and that's that's one of the sad realities of some certainly not all science well mammoths
1:30:35 It's in earth. off this dirt, and they're pulling these tusk yeah man yeah i guess but it seems like you shouldn't have it right it's like one of those You're on a hike or a hunt or whatever. If you're in certain places and you find an arrowhead, you're supposed to leave it. maybe i like to keep it from falling apart maybe as they pull it out of the water or the uh the
1:33:15 clearly is a finite number of these things of course there has to be and they're prehistoric You can see his treasure in the museum in Perth. And he got, yeah, a few coins and no money. When the investors asked for the money, he said, I don't know what you're talking about. He's taking lie detector tests. It's insane. Yeah. Yeah. That's the show. Yep.
1:36:51 method that they've devised where if you go deep enough it just fills up with water so you can I think they're just digging and trying. I think they've put divers in it. kid, there was X marks the spot, the maps. I think that's in the show right here. Yeah. Yeah. And they're filled with gold, these Roman ships. couple one is there's one really one place on earth left where there's true cannibals it's
1:39:43 And then when it comes to wildlife, I mean, the list is infinite. There's so many of these animals that i'd like to try and then when it comes to wildlife i Now, how often do they practice cannibalism? they have to eat a certain killer, that they're not getting it. That's where they're getting it from. That's not a person. pop like look at that lady oh my god she amazing wow yeah um have you uh read um sapiens sapiens no i'm not uh evolutionary book about
1:42:46 Everybody was like laughing and smiling. It sucks, Like to us in our culture, that's absurd. And so they left him It's true. They're amazing. Super weird. Yep. It's very strange. see a hyena stand up and put your arms up like that. They say that about cats too, right? Like mountain lions? Look at that motherfucker. It's so creepy looking. then chasing after another one and and killing them too unreal no i haven't seen that that's
1:46:34 They don't even look real. So the cats, when you look at them, they look like a lot. Oh, he's getting his. She's like, let that go. I don't know man Yeah. Wow. yeah there's a documentary on the congo from the b, I want to say, like the early 2000s, maybe even late 90s. Nuts. Yeah, and then all these animals that got trapped as this area, these grasslands, turned into rainforest.
1:49:45 And that like, That's why someone like me is so incredibly thankful that there's someone i'm also 100 sure i'm not going but but i'm happy that you go i mean it's thank you i'm i'm i'm so A snake that has a tail that looks like a fake spider. into coming down and try to snatch the spider here Here we go. The Iranian spider viper. Unbelievable. in yeah right and then over generational time this tail evolved little spikes and little things and
1:52:38 sort of work together right like there's the bacteria and the fungi and the plant life and the animal life and the and then he got to fuck a lot because he ate a lot of birds that's the idea man you just i swear to what happened was, say, continue the gene pool and so that's what happens it keeps evolving it's like a peacock right Right. uh like cephalopods like octopus and cuttlefish and the way they adapt to their environment that's
1:56:15 right do you know i don't understand it well but yes it's like the thought that the population came It looks like it's from out of space. I don't know if you know this, but a lot of porcini, a lot of chanterelles. And a fucking trip During a lightning storm autism and you know there's i'm not very well read on that but there's a whole idea that microdosing
1:58:33 It's funny, because the one person that I know that's done the microdosing with mushrooms would that help you like as a fighter is it's not a mental focus thing it's a it's a physical thing possibly go wrong make you hesitate and it just it's it's the stress of it all is very constricting Yeah. and they go you know you get them like um do you ever play pool a little bit i mean but you know
2:01:33 yeah i don't know maybe i'll just start microdosing on mushrooms and going out to chase snakes around the maloka which is the like spiritual house so we go to the spiritual house we sit around we talk he blows this green stuff in your nose is that called a koo hay not not by that word that we There's five of us in my crew Yeah, so he gets really close
2:03:48 head i break into the sweat my eyes explode and i'm like wobbling like this and 30 seconds later me like a ton of bricks after he said that did you think was there a i mean you're a scientist And the whole fucking trip, I've got that in the back of my mind going, Were you trying to make logical sense out of this? and the thing about it is even if that's not true if you think it's true and then you wind up being okay and you have confidence that you're going to be okay and maybe you have less anxiety and make better critical decisions because you think that everything's going to work out.
2:06:33 situation and before that i had no thought of it ever playing a part well like the mind fuck of That is a freaky thing for a scientist to say. medicine and drugs and catching animals everything because this one guy blew crap up my nose and i snuffs that they pump up their nose and one of them is uh i think it's it's some form of five absolutely I'd do it out of respect.
2:08:58 absolutely yeah you have to embrace it man dude you live a fucking cool life it's weird it's definitely cool thanks really cool On Instagram. Thanks, Joe. Thank you.