Joe Rogan Experience #1243 — Rafinha Bastos Transcript

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0:00 I'm gonna wait for the green sign before I point. Thanks for coming here. Ah, I know those guys. I have a degree in journalism. You have so much that's so similar. And those jokes didn't actually connect that much with us. And I would do a character. Stand-up, I'm not saying that it's for everyone. So how did you start out? and try to show them our opinions and our jokes

3:57 So that's why I had, and I still have a lot of problems with the law that's how the controversy was starting over that i don't know if it's the same thing here But then people, oh, this guy's talented. Let me give of the language you're allowed to use It was like three or four guys, yeah. That was a small group of guys that we started doing. like the word shit yeah like shit could be like you could look at something go shit like that's

7:36 But porra is the same thing. But then you're getting a choke porra. It was bad. Exactly. Yeah, I got it. I got it. It's like a big butt. But then you're getting a choke. Language is difficult, man. I mean, it's obviously in America, there's this sort of acknowledgement that black people were slaves for so long, they are allowed to do more things. So you cannot say in any situation

9:46 of the greatest comedy routines in the history of stand-up that's crazy yeah but a white person You know, racism is crazy. the white voted and how the black voted yeah that's kind of weird because for me that's racism you know, it's a very different thing. They're using it as a tool to divide people or to force their agenda through. People are tribal.

12:39 There's different food and different music and different culture and literature. there's real racism and a black man with a white woman is in danger you know they have to be Because you don't understand the language. did you guys get together and say, hey, let's try to do this over here? I still remember that the first video they were like talking about what we were doing.

15:14 And it was difficult at first Oh, that's funny. So when I say a joke, people think that I was doing from those books. it's interesting because there's so many of them and no one knows anyone who wrote them there's And when it's dubbed, is it dubbed well? No. Like my Netflix special has subtitles here in America. for eight months, like all the Wow. And some of those jokes don't work when I translate.

18:01 If it has a timing, if I, now I'm able to do at the same pace that i do in the first time in English? stand up in English. Where is it? Huge, huge city. None. there's enough people. Jade opened for me It was difficult. of doing it like interacting and she's like and if you mess up a word in portuguese it's uh in It sounds bad, you know? And you don't.

22:01 Well, that helped Fabricio Verdum in Mexico because he's so fluent in Spanish that, you know, when he was over there fighting, you know, they were like, holy shit, this guy speaks perfect Spanish. a lot of trouble how much trouble yeah a lot of money i spent a lot of money really yeah i lost When I make fun of a celebrity. So who sued you? and kind of

23:19 I got in a huge lawsuit Law school discussions. Right, right, right. You know, this is the same thing with me. And, And do you think she's still hot? But next week it was this huge thing because she was like her husband was very influential and uh her husband was managing ronaldo which was one of the biggest soccer players ever did they rule in the lawsuit like what was the ruling i offended her honor or yeah it was something

26:14 and you get $10,000 a month It was bad. The discussion about freedom of speech, that was huge. They don't even have that in Canada. his money back because they donated money. There's another case in Vancouver They won what? $42,000. Canada does not have freedom of speech Yes. Like, I have this joke that when I arrived here so for the past can I fuck your ass and I was like maybe avoiding all wars with the leather ranger. And the other day, a gay guy came up to me and said,

29:24 because I'm a foreigner yes and now i'm free They think they're signaling their virtue and making the world a better place at the same time. It says, okay, look, I was right about you fucking snowflakes and gay and there's no way he would choose both of those things and it was just it was just him And, you know, and sometimes people say on this podcast that we talk about it too much.

32:22 That's when born those little movements, neo-Nazi movements, little groups and little groups on the web in the deep web when discussion people and then just ban people for life. they say something that makes people uncomfortable if they say an opinion you don't how things are difficult and how much time I spend explaining evolved. Now there's people trying to hold you back.

34:46 it actually makes their standup better because people are so tired of all this there's a lot of weird shit going on right now. It's happened so many times. Look, everybody has their own sensibilities. You know what you're going to see in state until 2 o'clock in the morning, you're going to see 10, 15 different fucking comedians. They're everyone's crowd.

36:44 They're still your crowd. They still went there them are. At the Comedy Store. They're still your crowd. You'd be surprised. You lived in Nebraska? And that was, it was, it was crazy because I had a chance to meet the American people. around with black guys because there was my people that was i was a foreigner we were minorities and Oh. a lot. I had to go back to Brazil and had to do the surgery again.

39:06 a second chance in America. Was it all the lawsuits? uh stand-ups is here man that's the place that you gotta be and we never had a brazilian stand-up Now, are you working over here? I kept some, Joe. Last year, I did JFL. I did a talk show. I did everything that I wanted to do in Brazil. I did a talk show. That's a crazy situation you have. And for my career, it was important because I lost a lot in my country as well.

41:59 So if I say exactly who it was, I'll be sued again. Do you have like, how do you do it? I memorize everything that I'm going to say. It looks natural, It's very frustrating. I just mess up words, and that always happens. It's difficult to do it in another language. look at it on the screen and then I'll write I know I have a framework and I know i i'll go you know i i drink too much fucking coffee i got a real problem and here's how i

45:44 do you keep the funny ones? Like you gotta laugh, but it's not good. How would you know that? you've said and you you have a hard time explaining that's my joke and to them it's just an anecdote there's a huge road that you guys already followed. Well, you could ask people. like, the other day, They all have it, man. just have good ideas yeah chris talia actually has a bit about that i don't want to do his bit

49:14 You don't have to be a drug addict. Did you eat it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. he had crippling anxiety for some time for some time for weeks and he's a confident guy Jesus Christ. He gave me some pills and I was like, oh, if you stay high until tomorrow, you'll take these pills. now I'm going to record everything that I'm thinking. I was like wow Oh, you're too tall.

52:20 Yeah. I don't feel anything. There's so many people selling weeds and stuff. It's just like going to the DMV. It's pretty easy. Okay. It chills me out. It doesn't affect me that way. For me, I've been smoking for a long time. It's pretty easy. I'm not going to perform well in this meeting or something, It's not good for me for stress. No. maximize their marketing perfect their marketability and just like tell the world how they feel like that's a

55:15 to understand even shogun they have this what they call the juanace which is the way of speaking and got some scars on his head. one of the best he was good yeah he was an animal he was really young too and at the end he was like in like fucking two minutes. and even Anderson, yeah his last fight I mean he got knocked out by a few couldn't do it right he didn't look the same you know he just didn't look like he was physically

58:15 He wasn't good. career because stylebender is just fantastic super technical but Terry Crews did an American. He's a great guy. It was like two fights after he actually retired. i want to take the risk yeah because i was fighting in japan getting i don't know five thousand The Bob Sapp one is fucking crazy. His neck was fucked up permanently from that.

1:02:00 he caught fedor when he had him in his triangle and he had him locked up like that you don't get Thanks, Fabricio. And when you go over there to talk with one, you can say a wrong thing at the wrong time. Yeah. That's very good. Yeah. did you get a lot of Brazilians there's like so that happened yeah definitely Pioneer on podcasts. Really? active in social media in brazil it's good it's something that is from our nature to connect with

1:05:18 What were you doing that was influencing people? on Twitter So they did like Twitter for jokes. That's what I did for You have everything. So it lost a lot of power in Brazil. During the process of the election. Yeah. people interacted in the real world the way they do on twitter you would think that everywhere is Oh, the world is boring. And it's also, it's not a healthy way to communicate

1:08:30 And then you look at people's pages. I have this series that i do They just talk shit in the comments. I think that being anonymous on the web is a good thing because it allows you to be free it's like we were talking about earlier with social media being so recent in human history was being funny and then wakes up 16 hours later in africa and her life is over that's crazy

1:11:09 I'm the baby fucker. Do you foresee a time ever The challenges here yeah yeah from what you're explaining to me but look at lou louie or louie's a different case No, he was like improvising with the audience or something. They'll be happy to see you. talking about? What's funny about rape? would have been just one of those moments in a context anymore exactly and we are very uh we are available we we as comedians

1:14:10 a long history of stand-up. You know what? Yeah. Yeah. He was kicked out of the country because of some jokes he did. Wow. other countries that say jokes and they get in trouble uh like there was something in thailand It's just like, if you want to be an asshole, just deal with the consequences. That's all. Yes, yes. That it is that's exactly what i feel it's just like if you want to be an asshole just deal with the consequences that's all yes that's all i'm that's what i feel i'm an

1:17:50 actually expanded people's ideas of what these social issues are and and how critical they are Like you have a point. reached a point when it's about money and if the and if someone is not willing to put money in your It's connected to YouTube. It's 5,000 seat theaters. and then you go to a this discussion every time they go on stage and that's serious

1:20:46 I'm trying to think. They used to say. is from russia but uh he definitely plays it up, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. not breaking any new ground all i'm trying to do is write good stuff write good material do good He goes, you're so right. into it no one will see it like maybe it'll be opposite some fucking big avengers movie and Like, if you just want to be entertained,

1:23:46 Yeah. They want fucking huge stuff. Yeah. That's what they want. They want fucking huge stuff. is that people need a break from the grind of life. And your neighbor's a cunt. Sure. For some people that are introverts or that they don't like attention or there's some sort of pain involved. loyal audience and i'm i love they love me and i love them we still have that connection

1:26:35 If you take this joke out of context and put it in a newspaper, showing her face it was just showing her mouth and she has a huge mustache like a huge mustache So you're just fucking around. And then the cover, it wasn't in the cover, but the picture on the Rolling Stone was me dressed as Jesus, like bleeding with a crown on my head. that was taken out of context

1:28:15 the people couldn't see and you're testing, and even you disagree with them as you're saying them. a discussion with two great big comedians about the louis set that he did like recently yeah and When he has his special, that's when he framed the thing. about improvisation and then boiling it down to what's good and then figuring out what's the best

1:30:46 There was something. I knew there was something there. it's one of the most difficult things in the world they just have the patience you're dealing I think you're amazing. Where I gave them enough honest, legitimate credit and said funny things about them that are positive first. We're not talking about us. Got it. It was not that one, the N-word.

1:33:36 It's like this literal. But people felt very uncomfortable. Because all of those people, they didn't feel that they were entitled to laugh around you. It's not racist. of differences fucking kardashians i don't know how you guys squash that shit it's just like we like parents millions of dollars playing YouTube than it does in Brazil. with we are getting

1:36:05 to do because advertisers are very wary about certain content and so they have these deals But basically, I mean, Jamie, we kind of take this attitude, I think about it like, well, what's important? i think 50 of our revenue comes from YouTube Red. But I understand the process as well. There's brands. brands yeah and they're paying the bills you know what google is not a it's not

1:38:51 So right-wing people feel like they get censored off of all these platforms before other ones. You don't make money off of Facebook, right? they wouldn't pay for that specifically right but that's where like there's a lot of uh a lot of Okay, perfect. sam harris just sent me something about it today um her name is uh uh megan murphy so she's a feminist and she's just like look you

1:41:40 is offensive and she was apparently saying it to the person who was a trans person. For me, it didn't look like he cared about much You've got to bring more people to the platform, make the platform more popular, make more money. so it becomes a threat as well well when you stop and think about the sheer impact like what what Wow, fuck, man. It's just, it doesn't make any sense.

1:44:54 I saw you talking about that you thought that you weren't that informed to do the Twitter guy. So I knew he was the perfect guy. But we got something cooking All this happens while they're in school I get up with them Or whatever in the morning I don't do a set until 10. That's the life that I wanted. Oh, really? But it's like one of those self-help cults, right?

1:46:59 You have to leave your family. Sometimes it's just like, okay, what was difficult is that her cult was teaching her that you Or maybe that would be that. happy but don't listen to me like i know everything i think it's awesome that you do that but you producers millionaires people that look like on paper they have their life in order and they want The danger of any platform.

1:50:24 I've seen it with people that just teach martial arts but before that i mean i grew up in a taekwondo school which was very disciplined and everything your instructors no karate schools okay kung fu schools that's crazy we all knew about that and one of the beautiful things about jiu-jitsu is its informality. and the brothership and camaraderie and the family environment that is fostered by brazilian

1:53:10 so and they were doing that for a long time in brazil like in beaches and going to houses and There was always catch wrestling, which had had a lot of great submissions that are still to this day. But at the same time, Then he went to some sort of conference on concussions and CTE, and he had 13 of the 15 symptoms. and then the very next thing he decided not to go

1:55:11 He went to be elected, but nobody voted on him. Of course. That's the worst way to become a celebrity. She was like, because I was asking her questions. I think that was it. Oh, what year was that? But she told me I was drunk i was like what she wasn't microphone on and this is absolute proven technology and they're using that to listen And for her to be recording, recording everything.

1:58:50 And you're just recording things. oh listening yeah Maybe he does. He's probably like, I'm the fucking president. Yeah. he i think he he was a movie star he was a a bang, bang, right? Yeah, he was the first guy. He's like that joke in Back to the Future. Yeah, so what is going on with Brazil now with your president? Yeah I don't know that is running over my soul

2:02:07 And they have like, I don't know, 40% of the people is evangelical in Brazil. Just if you're raped or if your kid has like a deformity, then you can have an abortion. like, Yeah. It's just a test. Are you against abortion or a poll a poll poll okay like an opinion poll yes So we are not having that discussion because now the president is connected to the church.

2:04:15 He was involved. So it's kind of you hide that So he's in jail now, huh? He is. The things that he said, he was kind of crazy, but people loved him. But the thing is, at the same time, he's more liberal. a show together my friend anytime listen i'm doing a lot of shows at the improv in the comedy store And thanks for doing this, my brother.