Joe Rogan Experience #1247 — Andy Stumpf Transcript

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0:00 four three two really rare i saw a dude who was dressed up like a native american who was not in fact a native in in entitlement like things that people think that they can get offended by and not offended by, things that are important and not important. What happened to the environment did you try this great book yes i read that off your recommendation actually did it speak to you

3:17 I just felt like it was really interesting to me, like that book, There's so much dedication, so much commitment. definitely biological family and potentially even my wife as well, One, I went from seeing those people that I share those experiences with on a daily basis. And at that same time, like I said, I come off that off-ramp of being in the military

5:31 And you just, it's rough when you get detached from that environment. what is it totally? There was a nerve damage. It was the, so I got medically retired, which of rebar on its way to me oh wow and it clipped my sciatic nerve on the way in and It happened to Michael Chandler. So frustrating. totally fine but it felt like it was destroyed because it was the nerve that got interacted

8:49 to the nerve or something touching the nerve they don't know that was an interesting part of being My leg felt like it was on fire 24 hours a day, which I could ignore during the daytime, but where it got me was at nighttime. Taking three to four Ambien, staying awake because my tolerance to all that stuff was so high. And the last thing I ever want to do is go through that again. So I'm going to

10:48 He'd taken such a shot to his head. And the doctors finally start working on me, and he says, all right, we're going to take a look at this. said, well, because we can tell that there's ferrous metal in here, what we would do is we Well, did they think they were going to be able to get them all out, though, if they did go in there and start slicing away?

12:30 taking a bath again if i wanted to wow yep they just left everything in there jesus that's crazy Wow. I mean, you can't even wear earrings in those rooms. It's like Kat Zingano, who's a UFC fighter, She beat Amanda Nunes and, you know, The number that is often touted, I'm hesitant to say that number is accurate because if you look at how it was derived, it wasn't-

15:08 Because you know this, I've heard you talk about it before. and I know the stuff that's tied to it as well, the low hormones, all of that stuff. so-and-so just went out into the woods. crossed the line he's like i crossed the line by talking about reality in an honest and open From your brain just rattling. the some signs of uh traumatic brain injury i'd be surprised if they didn't given they're fucking

18:40 Well, the money was well spent because I went there and I probably would not have been medically retired had I not because I left with literally a 150-page dossier. are you lumping everybody together it's just because i see a lot of people and specifically are a tough one because they travel so if you're internally in a building and you find a door

20:38 Or you're working with a bunch of assholes who take all the good hiding spots. because the charge isn't going to go off by itself. like i said you think you got an awesome hiding spot and the guy lays out the flash tube and he's The effect of the wave, my understanding, that contain pressure inside of your body as opposed to giving it an avenue to escape.

23:02 concussion and then obviously learning much more now and where we're at, it's like, yeah, you may not have even had any sensation in your head. collide with each other and i'm like oh me a fucking fight commentator you know and i'm me to stop in uh june of last year but of course it was tied to a very close friend who uh did a it's a question mark on the base jump inside the house you do such risky shit the skydive is like

25:44 double failure, meaning your main parachute malfunctions, you cut it away properly, and deploy your reserve parachute and have that also fail in 20 some years. People die skydiving not enough experience obviously your odds of making a bad decision are going to go through jump out and you hit the main parachute and there's a malfunction how do you cut it off

27:49 You had four or five main parachutes fail? a parachute and just sitting there looking at it as it's because they want to open and you can i can tell now within an instant of trying to deploy my parachute whether or not it's Really? The parachute wasn't opening. it had fired off wow yeah dude but the difference and you're asking the difference like why is risk

30:22 Regular base jumping, you just have a quick-deploy parachute, parachute right so you have one parachute system when you base jump instead of two because there on the spot or you're gonna have a fucking problem so it's to me if you have enough altitude you put fuck and then the suits now are unbelievable so each wing like the wing between oh my god this guy's like he looks like he's living in the 1800s when did they invent these

33:13 If you were living in 1900 I'm just jumping off I would probably jump that He died in the first attempt Yep. What is it? What is it about? Oh, jumping his dog that's dean potter jumping with his dog oh the poor dog so the dog the dog's fault the dog i believe is that looks like Most of the time, just like skydiving, it's just a human being making a very poor choice to include Alex.

36:15 sitting on a helicopter pick the battle space that you're in and you get a five minute warning I'm going to solve this problem and move on to the next one, this problem and move on to the next one. And so that state helped me in things that had nothing to do with that activity, I wasn't worried about the checking count. you're an adrenaline junk i'm like ah i enjoy i'm an adrenaline enthusiast i certainly enjoy that

39:29 I think there might be some connection there. if you slowly just incrementally started adding that volume so it's there's something in there when someone's trying to strangle you and you're fighting for your life and they're mounting you and trying to lapel i'm familiar pajamas and somebody is trying to choke you to death yeah you are not thinking about anything

42:23 I'll play certain parts of the song over and yeah and you probably don't even remember half of the things that you do when you roll or how And it lands. particularly if you do a lot drilling. And you do it over and over again. And the thing that you're seeing more than anything is how fluid everything is and how easily everything flows. bozeman uh as the crow flies maybe 200 and some miles but the drive there is like an l it's not

46:34 you know maybe just focus on the fundamentals you don't need to create new techniques right i'd rather learn defense that's that's very intelligent of you that's something a lot of He goes, no matter where I'm at. then after like my first 20 minutes i'm like oh shit it's humbling man but i think that's one of They completely have me locked in. get people that have like a little bit a little bit of technique and then they have a little bit

49:42 he's a multiple multiple time world champion and you'll see whoops he's got your leg and you're on your back and then his knees on your belly you're like better you can get everything to you can give your chest pieces more endurance you can you know you their elbows and their wrists and taping up their fingers and they don't give a fuck they just want

52:57 was really worried about not being able to don't fuck with archery yeah i love it too much and so 100 i mean maybe not 100 but no pain at all um and i ran a good steep so it doesn't put the pounding on the knee that was causing the cyst but fuck man does that thing It wasn't brutal. and getting my body to work. sharper when I train more like the last time I was doing like serious training was over a year ago.

56:11 have to really be careful about when to train and how hard you train like uh my friend eddie bravo whether it's through cryotherapy or sauna use or massage, each other and so then you're carving pathways but you're not taking the kind of abuse that you I kind of find that to be the case with two white belts going off sand. chokes no it's not my strength now are you uh mostly going gi are you going no gi as well i do

59:13 wearing a tie i'm like i'll kill you with that tie i get a hold of that tie you're a dead man you're doing it now like that's what's important like it doesn't matter when you start the the No, your stock portfolio would be amazing because of all the knowledge. And he's just balling all over the world on his Facebook stock. and in terms of what impact this has on our elections, on our culture,

1:01:37 And, um, it's either the information war, the war of information. pairing and they do it across the street from each other on purpose so that they'll interact Anyone but Hillary. the amount of interactions that they had with them. There's millions and millions and millions Well, there was a lot of that from Russia as well. No, you wouldn't. Exactly.

1:05:28 If you kick someone's ass, they're going to remember it. what violence is well the thing is too from what i've seen it didn't start with the bike locks I'm like, okay. and and work towards like a better humanity work towards a better more loving way of interacting Like that's where violence comes from. your ideology and your beliefs by something literally you can see just driving your car turn left turn right it's just i don't understand it i don't um

1:08:38 The most intense form of conflict is war. they're acting and i'm glad that they didn't have to do that but on the other one it's a tough pill What's the navigable route out of that? I'm hoping that we don't have a Kent State or some horrible event in this country where, you know, I look at the pictures of that. well you you picked a good spot where you're at in Montana.

1:11:55 than others but i've sacrificed enough that i'm not going to allow those people to tear us apart I mean, I don't know whether it's because of social media It doesn't always have to equal white supremacy. of or yeah yeah it's like it's as if there's only two choices yeah you're either left or right I mean I jump into these little social media spats game on that stuff i'm like so late if i just so i have uh two teenage boys and a 10 year old girl

1:14:58 it would, defeat the purpose i mean i've seen it firsthand, you know, responding to stuff. People, they're just watching and then they dive in and, you know, and like screen grabs. And I recognize the language that they're using. is kids taking naked pictures of each other because this girl got arrested for child pornography need for male attention.

1:17:17 I knew girls that would do that. And this is my theory on, this is my take on America in terms of immigration, right? And then what happens is they would get in their car and they would go, fuck this place. That are like in the middle You know you go to Austin No Is it really? Jamie's not buying that. So it's like Dallas is number one, Houston, Austin, San Antonio.

1:19:51 I get it. but it was also not enjoyable at the same time. Is it really? Oh, Phoenix is six. That doesn't seem right. What? they probably have one place where they have a video camera up where they can capture a certain what's up? They don't have TVs. It's an interesting thing Well, in others, you just fly over and there's nothing there forever. yeah i saw one where this guy had this setup and they had a fence around his house and then he had a fucking antenna.

1:24:11 wonder like how a person winds up in that double wide trailer miles away from barstow like how do like this is not a good community we got to get you out of here yeah what's your escape plan what do you what's your escape plan you're 200 miles away from the nearest city you're surrounded That's not a good option. And then I've been uh There are always bears around, but also having a machine gun helps with that.

1:26:33 ocean breaks over your head it's pretty bad uh and the cold weather uh immersion test is there but they were also trying to teach a lesson. submerges their head oh god so you might be first you might be like you can rush out there and be It hurts for a minute Oh that is Barclow For Sitka All Sitka's gear processing the food actually is good for elevating body temperature eating food especially if you can

1:28:53 they would have to erect a tent. of this cold water submersion stuff and he he actually enjoys it and loves it yeah you know korea probably farther in the northern latitudes. You're going to do a 20-kilometer hike into the backcountry in snowshoes. well yeah a lot of military training is like that there's the essence of pain compliance and then that essence of self-control but then they require so many different skill sets and so many different

1:32:08 If you can get good at something, okay, that's another thing that freaks me out is climbing. As long as I wasn't more like than three feet off the ground, yes. drilled and both saying league or lead lead or a cam system that it rotates to be smaller and then as you release it opens up and if you And of course, you're only like six feet off the ground

1:35:05 worried about the one beneath you and you don't want to fall so you get it in there and then you yeah there's a climb there called the Bastille crack it's in one of the national parks and I protection that i just put in i'm convinced that I feel my feet slipping off of the rock And I look over and this professional climber is right next to me with no rope in his fucking tennis shoes, smoking a cigarette, which is what he was using to point to where I should have placed the next piece of protection cool calm and collected and i almost fell off the rock because he scared me so

1:37:57 And he just, as I'm freaking out, he's just sitting there just, was halfway up and he well he was in the middle of this journey up this fucking mountain he realized and just keeps going and then leaves the bag for the guy at the top of the hill. that would make me attempt the stuff that he does. yeah and i'm sitting here like struggle i'm like i'm out you're also built wrong for it you know that I am a complete and utter bitch in comparison to what he is. Like, if that's what's possible,

1:39:59 But he also said that he had gone through earlier like years ago yeah and then i had him on again recently okay yeah it's uh the guy i would was like hey will you come film me uh you know, free... I would say no Look at that. He's got that carabiner. Look at that position he's in, too. think you'd have to be right in order to to be able to capture that yeah yeah the team that i

1:42:56 Oh, God. Dude, good question. of like five to seven people. was also a late night one of those news shows like abc world news tonight or something like that Maybe. When you talk to Alex in real life, he's a sweetheart. leads you to what you do like what what is it about you sometimes you look at your path in life You got a chalk bag. I knew the result, and it still freaked me out.

1:46:16 don't worry i've been doing this i can do it i do it all the time so i i do it because i've done it They're not even going to remember you, man. I was going to say, put him in that environment. Probably. said so much stupid shit the fact that anybody would listen to me about anything there's thousands I had always wanted to do something like that because my friend Anthony Cumia,

1:48:26 off slow with webcams and shit like that and stumbled my way through it i personally believe And I've gotten, I mean, just in the last few years, I've gotten so much better at listening to people and understanding what they're, and trying to see things from their perspective and they have no empathy or compassion. And one of the things that I was talking about with Jack Dorsey from Twitter.

1:50:36 trophy winner what they were they're giving him a hard time for some of his past tweets And this, we've got to figure out a way to to communicate with each other more civilly and to waste their time posting about it or taking up the – just filling the narrative so it looks like there's only two positions. or compete as a woman rather her position This is a real thing that you're going to have to address

1:53:44 But when you're talking about competition and you're talking about matter of whether or not someone should identify with something but it's you're talking about Like, what? Like, what does that mean? to look at reality and then people that support the trans people because they don't want to be lot of uh positions that people feel like they're supposed to take and if you're on the left the big

1:57:31 that what what what what could possibly be going on how do we stop that from ever taking place country were legitimately interested in stopping school shootings how many have ever occurred at So you can control the location aspect. yeah i think we got to balance that conversation and talk about the motivation yeah 100 and and Like how much of that is monkeying with human neurochemistry

2:01:01 address because the individual that would want to go do that at a I don't agree with either of those positions because it's more nuanced than just the gun and the shooter. there's no real plans to stop this stuff and i don't think anybody has a real answer and that's it actually happens and it's funny because you look at the stats and you start digging into where

2:03:29 often it's happening. like criminals who are being shot in the act by police officers? How many of them are people it to zero will be generational There are – I couldn't be a more vehement supporter of the Second Amendment. It took a pistol and killed five people the day he got fired and injured five police officers. because budget and relevancy and this is mine

2:07:22 But something along the lines, we don't have a gun crisis. unhappy or anger or any of the things that and and trying to help? Some guy got fired, went back to work, and just shot everybody up. that I don't have the vocabulary to describe, these horrific feelings and this severe depression and anger some people don't have those mental meaning, that nothing they do matters, that they don't matter, that no one cares about them,

2:12:13 that place of having lost friends and being in that intense and also being in this environment because then they can maybe excuse away behaviors that come from that does that bother you about But at the same time, it's a mix of all of those things. in that moment, it was the worst day of my life. And I look back on it and it probably was the than i thought it was going to be because i've watched the same movies right um and then you

2:15:59 everything in them is inaccurate almost everything the biggest thing that drives me fucking crazy is when grenades create a fireball. It's just not going to work. And they're not that effective. Theyball, you're going to be there for the rest of your natural life. It's just not going. Obviously. But other than that, to starlight blasting people through a concrete wall they're doing free fall jumps they're in

2:17:54 This is so hilarious. That doesn't surprise me. But he really wanted to learn actual jiu- jujitsu so he really did train with them yeah he did real tactical courses and and so his uh his tactical proficiency shows in that movie He's pointing a gun out the windshield, and you can see that the bolt to the rifle is locked to the rear. fast it's probably up there for three seconds but if know, I mean, you look at a gun and like you just, if it was your primary tool for years, you're looking for certain things all the time.

2:20:36 process is what it is they not see that no don't you think they digitally could have moved that I get crazy when I watch people play pool in movies And I see they have a bullshit bridge And they're gripping the like you can see things in movies like uh my friends who And it's like, why is your gun pointed at your buddy's face? What sucks about it? you get to glamorize stuff right so a lot of people because in that movie you know the um

2:23:25 shot now how many different things were fucked up about that movie um only the things that were the making of the movie yeah but i mean i'm sure they only listened to him so much you know yeah that makes sense? so those those capture the essence of it well from a technical perspective i honestly cannot think I would say there are people who are maybe a little bit higher and people who are a little bit lower.

2:26:48 They're like, hey, you need to fix this and then resubmit it. that's everything is to get there and then, okay, that's actually our job. But we focus on all those That happens all the time. or that we shouldn't have the kind of budget that we have right now? And all of that creates space so people can exercise their right to voice their First Amendment,

2:29:56 I'm I it is frustrating for me at times, but I balance that with that's that's what this country is supposed to be about. but they're very vocal. came with that to allow them to have whatever opinion they want that's a great perspective and I had never thought about, like I spent a lot of time thinking about I was going to say I think that night in some ways helps me have the perspective I have now with those people.

2:32:29 You know? is essentially I've been made at 20 years. For the five years? if you do 20 years in the military you you will get 50% of your base pay, Tax-free money. When you look at the news, do you pay attention to potential conflicts internationally and the things that are going on? all this kind of stuff like how do you do you view this i mean obviously you view this as a guy

2:36:17 look at it for me to inform my opinion uh syria certainly any area where we allow a place for and the only word i have for it is evil It was just a Tacoma, a thin-skinned Tacoma. I think the last stat that I saw was ISIS is in 64 countries. Now, we're not necessarily using them for the same purposes, but if we really want to control that area, we have to be prepared to stay there for that long.

2:39:29 coming out. Do you put your finger in the spout knowing that it's not going to fix the problem, much longer term strategy because all we're doing in my opinion is the finger in the dam and is there You have an axis somewhere that has another belief. but isn't that fucked though i mean human beings are always going to shoot and kill each other moving this direction smaller more surgical uses of it i just the military in my opinion is not good

2:42:43 to we're wasting our time. think. So there would be, we would have political arguments, religious arguments, philosophical or this is a real threat or whether you know he or whether it's something like the saddam hussein situation where yes he was an evil dictator but also removing him might create But I don't know if any of that has an impact beyond that time period that it occurred.

2:45:18 is talk on the podcast about these topics. huge. And to be honest, I mean, you know this, I owe the suggestion from you to start in that Phenomenal. this world if you can adopt a fraction of his ideas yeah or it'll change your philosophy there You know, Goggins just being a guest on this podcast. it's I didn't realize which is great and For anything.

2:49:50 my iphone just using the voice recorder application from voice notes from a podcast uh from an iphone Yeah. How crazy is that? It seems to be it. Bye.