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0:00 Mr. Tsoukalos is ready to throw the fuck down! fun, man. Giorgio's a cool cat. you talking to you in Vegas. I was like, man, even preposterous ideas. When you hear stuff like that, now, you're in the business I wonder if this motherfucker works for the government? Plus, there's a base on the moon, and we've been going there telepathically for years,

2:39 You go with your gut feeling, because there are people out there that say some really crazy stuff, but at the same time, some of the stuff they do say also carries some merit. Like, what field has been completely reworked over the last 200 years? Oh, that's right. Alex Jones used to hate David Icke because you're a big Alex Jones fan. I love Alex. Listen, brother, I love Alex, Alex. I wanted you to hang out with Alex at one weekend in Vegas because you're a big

4:50 And then you get from getting a cigarette avoids me, avoids eye contact. I've been told by the management to keep me from having a beer and you have to be crazy to dig for the truth that much. number it is, that he is right. It's worth talking about? He gets crazy. He doesn't go fucking all the population except 500,000. They're constantly finding planets that could possibly support life,

7:40 astrophysicist that will tell you that they think we're alone in the universe. another society that, like you mentioned or you said or inferred, that they're a billion years Look what Nikola Tesla was doing in the early 20th century, and look at what's going on today. They thought you were going to be able to beam people onto a planet, The idea that you can just talk into it.

10:08 Any alien species that's a thousand years from us, One sugar cube is 40, or 440 billion tons. I forget which one, either one, it's fucking crazy, it's a goddamn sugar cube is 440 billion tons. this Higgs-Boson particle. um you know some patio lighting out on your patio and you have a cat and that cat likes to go on the and not just into people, but into objects or something,

12:36 different things that are around us all the time that we just can't tune into? And all some alien you see moving things, you smell food. I don't want you to get everybody else sick. They're trying to take over and kill him. Well, for that I really have to sites and things like that So for me, these types of topics have been, I've been exposed to those at a fairly young age.

15:32 But today I know exactly and I finally understand what she meant that, you know, this is just a repetition of history. I am here because of my parents and my grandparents. and within eight months or so, We'll do it remotely or something. Well, I would say it was weird the first time we actually hung out but we're talking 5, 6, 7, 8,000 years ago from today.

18:31 Personally? even when that puzzle is not yet completed, and we've all done puzzles as kids, it gets easier as you move along. is that we have been visited by flesh and blood extraterrestrials in the past. However, sometimes when you look at that research and some of the ideas that they present, there Right. Right. Well we can do today. Right. That's in Chariots of the Gods, the movie.

21:28 You can't move this. there's two, in my opinion. There's his and they regrouped and rebuilt and rethought things out and that's one of It's one of the biggest monoliths that has ever been Where still today, we use diamond-tipped saws in order to cut any of these blocks that chamber of the the great pyramid of Giza that they believe were attributed Now, in Abu Zir, we find multiple stones where we can see a signature of these types of machining that took place there.

25:41 he's an engineer and he knows this stuff like the back of his hand. So there and they look at it, they take pictures and then they leave as clueless as they arrive. but I'd rather listen to someone who cuts stone for a living than someone who stands before a blackboard. You know, you're saying if it would be really, really difficult for people to do it today.

29:14 That is the main reason why, for example, we have religions today and things like this. At what age do you think people had technology Yeah, something like that. Okay. If this has been achieved over 10,000 years, all that information was lost. the Sumerians were very I mean, that is not, for example, a Sikarai. Now, what's the great dark void? out there i mean i think the possibility is you know there's the numbers you know and i think it's

33:28 disasters. And the a monkey form when Pangea was around, right? Yes, no, absolutely. Pangea. We know that there was intelligent life probably in some sort of a monkey form when Pangea was around, right? and we have said already that if we existed 100 years more, and killed almost everybody. And how many different No, but these are structures that actually you can see, and there are scientists baffled by them.

35:32 this story of the plume snake? it's a possibility i'm not ruling out that possibility oh no of course not but you know bullshit artists that's what those little gray dudes are they're just like you, but we're from the future. Maybe it's just future bullshit artists. And you give him that banana, and he's like, what the fuck? How the hell did an archaeologist know some astrophysics in the 70s?

37:55 we are now. So that would mean and they figured it out then. See, I don't know enough Yes. I mean, how on earth would they know something like this? No, no, no. you can teach that person how to drive a car. so they had to liken a rocket to a blazing oven or something like this like the Vimanas or the Marata? where cocaine was only you know available in one country and so so it was just definitely i mean something definitely

42:26 Well... basically blew it up to about three to four feet long. able to do rolls and and looping loops and stuff like that i mean they were 100 percent uh you know And then you have the stabilizers in the back, and you've got an upright rudder, And how old is that artifact? that the history is so sketchy when you get just a few thousand years ago it's like oh fuck knows

45:55 poo-poo it. Like, oh, What do you think is going to be there after 11,000 years? When geologists look at the Sphinx enclosure and they show photographs of the water, the water erosion, the fissures, When my colleague Robert Boval came out with the Orion Mystery in fact built to the exact ratio still holds, even though the upside-down theory these days, it would be in 12,500 years ago, which Boval labeled or is known in Egyptology

49:17 it has to exist because of the thousands of years of rainfall. There is a king's list out there, and everybody can go Google this tonight. all that all break the great type shit they were working that back then man aging slower than the rest of us. So the more you are in motion, the slower you age. And so That is an interesting way to stay valid and just say, listen, bitch, I am coming back.

52:43 And those visitors knew exactly that And so one day, Get up close to the mic. And so here's the thing that... You think so? That's what nobody talks about, that our calendar is wrong. So right there we've got another five years, or was it at the time when he was nailed to the cross? Who knows these things? I mean, And God bless him, and Quetzalcoatl will not come.

58:05 Oh, no, absolutely. You're right. But if our calendar from the very beginning is wrong, Yes, in their counting... Yes, exactly. That must signify the end of the 13th Bakhtun. one period of time ends and that perhaps what the Mayans were predicting So that is definitely... Mushrooms, mushrooms, and a lot of free time. Isn't there like DVDs and stuff?

1:01:01 No. because we are all the sons and daughters of God. We have texts that have been written down at the time, that means a mushroom covered in God's semen. quote-unquote, saviors in human history. that at one point in time there was a super alpha that they need to... And this God had all the answers. whatever or whoever was described in the Old Testament,

1:04:11 was misinterpreted or thought as God, No, no. See, it was not God. we must be right with our ideas. Well, that is only half of the story, because when Albert Einstein was asked as a journalist, when a journalist asked Albert Einstein, do you believe in God? What Einstein said, and anyone can go and look this up, is the fact that he replied by saying, well, dear journalist, before I can answer your question, we have to define

1:06:23 It's not where, you know, You do, but I think the reason why Yeah. because the moment that you correlate It's like, you know, why? And people who have been successful at making things happen have, like, stepped back and said, look, you know, we made this happen by prayer. Poor little sickie, Brian. and that was, if you remember, in 2008, It can't get any worse.

1:09:00 this and that. skull. I mean, some of them have been disproved, right? their conclusion was very simple. And they said, and I quote, this skull should not exist. you know, though, And so this is how you got hooked up And I said, of course. They had this, it was Fox. And he said, why? I go, all right, well, how is it debunked? and I'm like, wow, dude, you're

1:14:21 into such nonsense. Going deep into the crazy hole. It even had a freaking question mark in the fucking title. So be it. When Chariots of the Gods came out as the 35-year anniversary edition, And guess what? because you eliminate false stuff. I'm very excited about that. There is definitely stuff in there that has not been explored in the previous season.

1:17:48 Ancient Aliens special. you're in TV, you have on that show, I mean, that speaks on about? What is their and curators of museums where they corroborate the stories about the star people. And then when, you know. believe in the spiritual realm, there's no question, but they're also very adamant to say I mean, it's just a complete, it's who we are as a people. There is no question about that. But at the same time, there were always these different levels that, yes, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the spiritual realm does exist. But we also have a physical realm in which our ancestors said that somebody came in a physical form so you think

1:22:48 That's who we are as an essence. It makes no sense. What do you think of Kurzweil I think it's fascinating. because that because of energy not being able to die and i think our soul our essence is energy it's part of this all-encompassing force that to me is the universe or or god and so you know if because there is something that's out there called the eternal spirit.

1:25:32 mind-boggling. Yeah, it's pretty crazy that it's no matter what it passes through, if it's a stone or some type of a being or something, it records everything. Yes. and you put it underneath the electron microscope at the very, very core, it's the exact same thing. most of the universe nothing? Absolutely. It's magnetism. And a lot of the stuff you're saying,

1:28:22 And he said that all this information which holds the answers to everything. I've heard that's been debunked. And I think the more they understand about the brain, seizures and stuff like that. I think that's all horseshit. And that is true because every single thing that we see each day, every single thing that we hear, everything that we say, our brains

1:30:36 I mean, you know, it's amazing how, you know, some people have the, quote-unquote, gift They have it mapped out. What do you think about all this Nazi shit? But if they were just some fucking kooks, you know, which they clearly were in one way, What was the whole Nazi-UFO connection? And you see, my ancient aliens, you know, some people consider 70-year-old people ancient, but, you know, I don't.

1:33:59 Isn't there a bunch of vases and paintings that have like old uh drawings of aliens on them and stuff like If they were us in a hundred years, we would need suits. And I think that a bit too much for me. we think that we have depictions that show potential extraterrestrial visitors in the past. I don't say you use it for evil. But you mentioned shapeshifting earlier.

1:38:21 presence on planet Earth, not only today, but for thousands of years, completely it's complete buffoonery to suggest you know what planet they're from uh what what Yeah, John Lear is out of his fucking mind. He's got the craziest theories ever. Robert Lazar is not so kooky. know if he's telling the truth but from what i understand he lied about uh his education he lied

1:40:34 the mainstream audience you can't listen to that guy he's john lear's i think if anybody's a You did the cowboy thing. Now, that's what got Graham Hancock into his whole journey that he went on. and it's obviously a replica. How many? Do you get that? Possibly, possibly. I liked it. How did you come to that conclusion? mana Because that's what they believe manna is.

1:44:41 And the ancient of days has been interpreted as the Old Testament God. of the Ancient of Days wasn't, in fact, the Ancient of Days, but the transportable one a huge light source and it was just this magnificent thing that they determined dispensed the mana And it was an extremely meticulous They would have balls on their skin. I don't know what you're saying anymore.

1:47:25 they had awesome food dude if you took an? Maybe. Not in the desert. Some awesome food. if you had an ice cream machine back then. And I agree with that. and his people, with That's heavy. So Ze Zachariah Sitchin with the notion that and really, I mean, it says exactly when it was built, what have they used to date that? able to do that because you can't really date stone because stone is an inorganic material.

1:51:13 and then they say, well, okay, that means that the site itself also dates from 500 BC. So, which means that the stones themselves could date back even further. the oldest, and they're saying that this was all right next to sicily because what happens is if you polish or cut a stone, The third way is where each time that you have an ancient stone, It's called a patina.

1:54:34 If you had the opportunity right now, all your ancient alien stuff. Would you be down? Of course. Would you just sit around waiting for the aliens tell them no actually i haven't and they're like well then how do you subscribe to these ideas why It's not that I quote-unquote believe in it. Type 1, Type 2, Type 3. So, Sagan, Carl Sagan actually suggested that we're maybe a.7 or possibly now a.8. many of these astronomers and astrophysicists are suggesting that this transitionary period

1:58:30 You know, one thing I was going to ask you about, just easily like a statue of a bird is that it actually Let me see some more of those pictures you brought in, man, because you brought in some badass structures. so there's absolutely no question about that. like that and they're like, this can't be done. So if you look for example at this structure

2:01:35 to the back because if you look closely Yes. And the only way that somebody, you know, gave an idea how this could have been possible is if you have a piece of this is i really wish we had photos of It's fucking incredible. Is it all the same era? Is it all combined? and some have suggested 10,000, 15,000 years ago who had been to Machu Picchu several times,

2:05:21 But it's miles away from water right now, right? And that is even something lines and the top of And the other ones are completely like they're like tabletops. NASCA pool right now. images of the spider and the monkey. Earth is dick. Those long, straight lines, they look like, you know, it looks like an airport. And so imagine if you had a bunch of natives there,

2:09:46 doesn't it make more sense that they had planes? I don't care. fields there where you can put down your compass and it keeps on spinning and things like that What is the explanation for that? They made their heads look like alien heads. Yeah. And that is exactly where I say, no, this is not where, the mystery is not solved, because It happened in Germany. It happened in Russia.

2:12:41 What do you think about that? No, what is that? It could easily just be some horrible birth defect. Yeah, you know, I mean, see, that's the one thing. I've only been to Chichen Itza. that you never see in the pyramids you're in garbage Ain't enough. you could always say, I do want to go to Easter Island. There's a swastika in Puma Puku. Sign of bad fortune.

2:16:05 Yes, yes, absolutely. Apparently just absorbing the language, and that is a completely different experience than reading our language. The Spanish came over and go, That is another fascinating thing. Well, there's actually a little bit more to that story, and that is that... And it just so happened that both Cortes and Pizarro happened to arrive on those shores in the same year.

2:18:07 I mean, that's... Is that right? worshipped. I mean, I don't think that people or plumed or winged serpent. Yes. Yes, no, I mean, the thing is that, you know, today, it all goes back to aliens. And they absolutely did. that we are engineered from lower primates by some aliens to mine for gold? But haven't they already mapped out the human genome? Absolutely.

2:21:42 Quickly, though. and created... Well, you know, but seriously, that, you know, But I also think that that is why, Donkeys. Chicken. Chicken. Monkey will bite you. It took us 20 fucking seconds. Yeah, for chimps, right? He's kind of crazy. dressed up like a tiger. the streets and the people in the hotel set me hip to furries because they go to pittsburgh every year

2:25:06 One litter box for everyone. they want all their food in bowls, crazy people. There's no one left but the premiere of season three. I'm going to say it again. Go to 10planetjj.com. 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu. Two minutes later, I thought, I will be in Milwaukee with Denver, showing mad love. strange. Brian fell asleep chomping at the bit we got into dirty shit

2:28:02 beautiful. And next week, probably Joe Diaz and Duncan Trussell. and you will feel so good and it is a discount all right see you freaks real soon bye-bye big kisses Thank you.