Joe Rogan Experience #1252 — Dave Foley & Paul Greenberg Transcript

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0:00 four three two one and we're live so what am i not supposed to say huh oh well yeah cunt oh yeah Some Americans. I think it was. Dave's having a stroke. You're okay That's a weird feeling No thanks Goddamn gremlins So why did you guys choose that As your podcast title? We're Canadians Dave Foley. One, one, one, one. I hear you, Dave. There we go. There we go. That's good. So. I always hear Dave.

1:56 Yeah. Well, he's not like much anymore. anymore that's right but my dad was a real really fond of that word and was he english Still? Canada is great on paper. Yeah, or even just back to Henry VIII. Yes, he did. It's ahead of his time. And then someone said, well, what if we just make Housewives in Orange County royalty? Like Atlanta is its own thing.

4:57 CSI Jersey was terrible, by the way. of all that attention They only take. She seemed like a very nice lady. I have a tattoo. She bailed out of it. And then she just kind of vanished afterwards. insane yeah i think fame fame as a as an emergent property of doing something right is bearable And that's it. And that fame only exists so long as somebody in the room knows who you are.

8:43 Should I know you? Yeah. Oh yeah, you could be in the middle of an intense conversation with your favorite person on the planet So I said, oh I'm good, how you doing man? Really? Just watch this. That's like, He's the one. Yeah. To be fair, you kept doing the show after it was canceled, right? I can't remember. Your show, that had a crazy title or something, wasn't it?

10:51 He is a nice man. that's that was the take i had on it with you back in 94 Yeah, occasionally someone will send me a clip online. Wow I don't even remember that episode at all And I loved the show sort of now that's the other thing that we never anticipated, that it would be floating around the internet. But you still get drawn in sometimes. And it's like

13:13 Yeah, why is everyone laughing so hard? Has anything funny ever happened on it? Yeah. Well, I think the term good enough is perfect for comedy. Yes, the familiarity. him to the edge i thought i think he was always crazy yeah but i think when you do a show that I mean, he was in some really talented actor. those they don't make those kind of movies anymore like nobody does jokes anymore it doesn't seem

16:03 seen it at the end of it i'm like whoa if I've ever seen it Dude at the end of it Or that she's a boy rather It's like Which is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Yeah. I remember watching-talking scene would be totally different. Yeah, I thought, I remember watching the crying game going, and I heard this big twist, big surprise twist. Just before Christmas?

17:18 What motivated it? Yeah, but Chrissy and I, we separated for 10 years. I remember running into her at a Satan thing. Why are you here? I'm Satan adjacent. Yeah. I think that's what they say now. Yeah. You know? an associate. Yeah. You are a Satan associate. I'm Satan adjacent. There's the picture. Hank Williams III's shirt that I'm wearing there. Well, they're going to have to get new earphones. I could hear cunt for 30 times.

19:54 stand on guns i probably know where you stand on climate change it's like it's it's a weird little Yeah. We don't have to talk about it. You know, believing in God I think there's some really powerful When you pick up that brush with a big smile on your face and decide to sweep ice. Don't make fun of curling, man. Yeah. because you're already to lean against.

22:40 catches himself. And catch yourself These are the best skaters in the world With a Volkswagen I couldn't knock him over. Yeah. He's a wonderful curler. It's strange. I went to school with a guy named Gregor Okay For me And we invited He was in town. Well, thanks for ruining the story, Dave. I don't you And that's what made him gay Well that was Thanks for ruining the story Dave

24:54 He looked like he was Yeah Thank God you watched that fight that time Oh God So we separated. No. Yeah. I'm not good with organizing. She was telling you something, She was telling you something Dave Divorced Well the first two years The dark years It was just like, you know, this is going to make everyone else's life easier. That's so Canadian of you.

26:58 And that's the only time you've ever been married, right? 50 likely you would die in a crash? Right. Yeah. into getting divorced. Yeah. the set and just be just in hell oh yeah well what yeah and he wouldn't well it'd be this he'd just and it'd be this isn't yeah like everyone was going through one good marriage on the show. Yeah. But, yeah. Right.

29:29 They say it takes work, but it actually takes work. Yeah. Like, it's not just I love you, you love me. and yeah that might have been where humanity went wrong was when the first guys said i'm gonna be a Oh, okay. I think those things started out as not respectable and people did them because they didn't have any other like choice. Oh, so what did they bill by?

32:24 So everybody was on a different time zone until then? That's the time. And that drove – kind of drove a lot of the beginnings of technology. The time is exactly 4 o'clock. You can't have a schedule without everybody on the same time. Yep. Hawaii doesn't. Hawaii? That island is theirs. No, because that came, that was late They're a completely different culture.

35:23 Yes. Oh, Guam and minor outlying islands. And then the people are saying, well, hold on, because we kind of came after a lot of these wild pigs. It just destroyed a lot of islands. And then the mongoose probably started eating everything else. Because I didn't think Beavers everywhere If you go there in the summer You would think tropical weather So Greg and Jeff

38:12 Yeah Drew Carey He's fucking so nice. Remember we did a whole year after that. Yeah, they found it. Yeah He's like yeah With this fucking number Was the year we got cancelled Like we never really hit 100 episodes They do that on purpose Cause they But now syndication Everything was dog shit Yeah They haven't solved. We'll find out where they are. that you know when you go through uh if you have like um global entry they got the face recognition

41:47 The nice people walk you The nice people walk you Of actually pissing on the people I gotta get that Yeah Yeah Is most of the border with Canada It's just People would talk about The border The border is a hundred A hundred yard clear cut Is most of the border It's like a hundred yards To cross the border Maintain that cut And Canada Yeah That's the line.

43:23 That's fucking crazy. Relax yourself. British folks, too. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I've done that. Yeah, it's a giant part of it, right? I mean, we all overstay our welcome. British folks, too. No one knows. You're just going, well, look at average. they can't really look yeah so if they look and they go oh no there's just like a big space and Yeah.

46:07 And he's dreamy I've never met him That's coming here The CGI is actually accurate according to his type of equations. Wow. Yeah. I think... Yeah. He's a handsome fellow. Well, that position of science communicator Yes i've read the stephen hawking books and i would zone out yeah so much while i was trying to really have to, it's one of those things you, it's like

48:56 As soon as you say infinity, that's only a mathematical idea. Well, why is that difficult to grasp, though? True. I guess people are obsessed with that. And there's a little bit of people find mushrooms and they need an explanation of what the fuck they're feeling. which is that of meaninglessness That's why a cat will just get up and walk around on it.

51:16 all agreed not to cross that line that's what i'm saying we ascribe meaning to objects and that gave Well, no, I don't think it's impossible to conceive. that the the problem that people have is like what's the point that's the problem that what's It's definitely silly. of the human mind. face everyone sees a face the only people who don't see a face are people who've been brain

53:55 Oh my God. In his 80s now. as anybody got. And also, there's a guy named Dr. Robert Shock window of time almost instantaneously in north america the the the end of the ice age, like 10,000 plus years ago, one point got wiped out except for like one village. I want to say, where's that one is that like i want to say it's where's that That way yeah Yeah

57:20 Yeah I remember as a kid going, my problem was that they kept showing these massive paintings But now I'm more, the thing I've become obsessed with lately is skepticism about UFOs. And he told her, he said, yeah, every air traffic controller has seen something. happen when you're sleeping almost all these experience when these people are abducted they're

59:23 I don't know Barney and Betty Hill With conspiracies to be telling the truth but i think she saw a bear yeah bears walk on two feet all the time What is that? it was hard to tell well expectation and perception are very linked The UFO thing is very Other than us in the universe that unless they can go faster than the speed of light, which he said was impossible at the time, this is the 70s, there's no way we've seen them.

1:02:27 is like that it, germs did exist And even since Sagan's day, and a leap, a technological leap that opens the doors to massive innovation. insane sorts of energy that we have never even experienced Yeah You know With a grain of sand That space time itself Quantum holographic theory of the universe. Right, and it folds into itself, so you could travel through.

1:04:55 It just seems like they're at opposite ends of the universe. what we're saying. Yeah. extraterrestrial is an assumption. was uh Michael Schermer I can't remember it but it was was pretty – it really went to great lengths that entailed having to basically diminish any respect you had for any of the people who reported on the events. Well, the problem is they're believing in skepticism. The problem is being a skeptic itself.

1:07:11 But I know for sure that that's not true. trying to pick it apart and that's fine if you can pick it apart, but if you cannot, you have to be objective about the fact that, oh, well, the first thing i asked him i said what is the pause yeah desperately have to go go go go the Some, Jamie see if you can find that thing because also it could just be art.

1:09:40 point oh i don't know well i don't know if the mayans did wow but but that was his number one No. actually right yeah it does it could be arms but that's point, is it's so open to interpretation. I don't think anybody knows what the fuck that is. I had a great tour um in chichen itza There's a bunch of different plants like morning glory seeds. what is the active compound?

1:12:30 Less surgic acid, right? Oh, isn't that funny? That's so funny Yeah Smoking banana peels But see, all of them don't have that. But yeah, apparently that's how a lot of the Mayans, a lot of the Mayans used to take LSA. There's another theory that's a little more slippery, and this one is very woo-woo. images that were very similar to like these ancient civilizations and the thought is that

1:15:44 Ayahuasca ayahuasca yeah when you take that That you would take it and it's like you were in an empty office building. But when you do something that's as potent as psilocybin, And that's, yeah, I don't know what you guys talk about And then for like six months It was a government. that they couldn't get over. the Ted Kaczynski story, Oh, this was kind of

1:18:19 And there was a psychologist that was working at Harvard at the time that he has been photographed with and was friends with. And I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It was like Ken Kesey and Leary Rowell. I was like, what? No humans involved anymore That we're currently experiencing And we're just living in it You know the We have a HTC Vive in the back

1:20:05 It's no different. Well, they're using it to treat PTSD and arachnophobia. that you can't tell whether or not those experiences are real or not then the aliens It's just choices. What's the voice like? Because that'd be really cool. He's a cam, chonk, and pick a... I was like, come on. What's right in front of you. Oh, if it was on Netflix or something.

1:22:15 What is that? He used his magic to solve crimes You don't Sell it They gave me a pitch once. And the curse was that you would live forever. Great as a one-hour drama. I was like, do you solve Well, do you You know Oh we got the wrong guy With the teams Oh my god I had so many of them Yeah, right. even like is pretty compelling I never met him. And he's a loon.

1:26:00 Video from 2004 was released by the U.S. Department of Defense. go, well, they have to make arguments occam's razor says if the jet pilot says he saw this he saw it i think he had an interesting take He had an explanation, though, that was kind of interesting. You need this when you're shooting at things in the sky. What is he saying? It's an unknown date and location from unknown pilots.

1:29:09 It's explained here. Well, even if it is a jet a jet's not I don't know. When you look at it... I forgot. You're right. And I said well why would No Right parable i love parables a little bit right stories. Because it's a Christ parable. I love Christ parables. Don't they shoot that object out of his hand the first second he pulls it out? Yeah. Yeah.

1:31:41 All metal and shit. Yeah, there was dozens. And then I was doing a show with her years ago and she's telling us the story. No scar tissue, man. And of course, I went to the alien section and just looked all this crap up immediately, And the power of ridicule to silence debate is unbelievably potent. I think there's documentation to make the ufo phenomenon ridiculous

1:34:45 If there's anybody that would fucking tell us it's Trump. Yeah. had a ufo experience yeah he saw something right yeah he saw he said he saw something but see that And they wrote down notes, saw like different sort of hieroglyphs on the ship itself, But have you taken a photograph of the moon on your phone? But they, you know, for a UFO? Rendlesham?

1:38:13 And it's, you know, and it said, obviously, the obvious explanation is, well, not the explanation, but the only thing you can accept is that these observers saw something. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Apparently they thought out of nowhere How they would fall Look this is it But again, I won't, like, I'll be skeptical about stuff that just seems crazy. have you looked outside

1:40:28 There's people that are so dumb No space Human Explorer Ocean. Suddenly they can discover a thousand miles out of space. God if I was Yeah if you believe I had the worst Uber ride with a guy. A computer programmer slash flat earther? So how did he start off? And he goes, well, not really the curvature of the earth. what we think the origins of it it was a troll from 4chan 4chan was fucking around they started

1:43:36 menstrual blood. them not so smart but some of them really smart Which was also started by 4chan It caught on. What's the onion? And I think that's the school he's in Portland like different This is all a joke. Yeah. It's very unsettling. We're going to have it. or something symbolism symbols yeah something that we agree to and we're we're probably not

1:47:54 monitoring your heart rate yeah you know and then we've been sitting here and uh when we don't know information. Someone's gonna figure out a way to share information. remember your name i'll remember any other fact that is on record will be the matrix and we'll Yeah. That's how we got on. Yeah, 95. Yeah, right. Yes, as a screensaver. I don't even think it was Wi-Fi.

1:51:01 Yeah. I think CDs, those are gone now forever But that's what probably Sure. how many of these people that are coming up without any education from a formal university They wait until we can't take pictures anymore and then they come back and re-engineer. Right, right right right yeah and that's the other thing too is about that archetypal image of the uh alien with the big head with the big black eyes is that if you go you go down from australia pithicus to home modern homo sapien if you make this connect

1:53:57 thing with a giant You don't have that anymore. Using that giant head to move shit around. And he's not the lunatic that other people want him to be. But he didn't tell the truth about his education, right? doing the research so why did they let me do this research for all these years if I didn't have the education to do it? Wasn't there a guy who went to college with Bob Lazar?

1:56:28 Even this one That's the title Except it all Come over here with your fucking UFO. I really wish they were real. Oh, yeah. Interesting. We came out and we lied. And I didn't know how to calm people down. I mean the people that are believers that are really into it. at each other Let's not. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of the, yeahfo sightings yeah and a lot of the

2:00:31 You don't seem like you're buying this. But you feel it's not. When John Landis came out as Bigfoot, Oh, That suit? No, no, no. Patterson looking to film Bigfoot So that's the Bigfoot movie And Bigfoot on the other side There's not a fucking animal on the planet that looks like a person in an animal suit. That's the same with this fucking stupid footage.

2:02:40 I mean, there's a video on YouTube where they show How can it survive? I mean, is there more than one Bigfoot? Well, it's not a single thing. There's three of them. There has to be a community. human. There's a single thing out there. How can it survive? and they found teeth in the 1920s he told the story they said all right ready go start walking exactly so put that guy in a big

2:04:40 like if a gorilla what is gorillas like 500 pounds. I mean, a fucking gorilla's... Gorillas were considered mythical creatures with the fake Bigfoot wrapped around his... Hairy ape creature Right. Yeah. But there's sightings all over the country now. Ironically That most of us have Neanderthal DNA in us. A lot of Europeans They were around for 500,000 years unchanged

2:07:46 Yeah. Right. That's another one Person like thing No just cannibal not cannibalism but they preyed upon our children and stuff like that they ate us Enveal. That's hilarious. horrified yeah they were like so that's immoral you waste all that all the people that you kill Yeah, if you killed someone in a battle who you thought was truly a great warrior.

2:10:53 leave them alone yeah yeah and they are so close to us i mean they're human beings they're homo I'd be down for a hoofoo burger Is this really good for you? Like what the fuck is this? Why do I have to have It's a weird choice burn a hole before they launched CERN, devour the fabric What? Maybe it did. of multiple universes that we pop in and out And they say most people

2:13:20 What's that? It's like but that's an accidental arrow no you think so they designed it in there they did where's the That's ridiculous. Fjord. See, it's stuff that's right used to do that interesting see it's mustang let's see that let's's see if they have the squiggle. Look at it. Yeah. Totally Thank you Mandela effect It's like let's just Change it up Remember when they Came out with a new Coke people fucking with something that's not broken. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

2:15:57 Yeah. No, they used coca leaves. They use that coca leaf To also make medical grade cocaine All of them And then the company that does that makes Remember I was in school when the new Coke thing happened and then they had an advertising? Those guys, they get a little bit here and there. Yeah, I mean that's why people living in those forests have been chewing them

2:18:15 Mark Trudeau And they weasel out of taxes Well, you know I don't know. All their money's in Ireland. Aliens got a bank somewhere. As they're doing And pass medical This month? I had a, well, I don't know if you remember this. and i fell down on the patio just fell over like that i would call it a cartoon i would call it a Like cartoon I would call it a Deadfall backwards And land on the back of my head

2:20:33 My head You had this red eye Oh, Jesus. And I thought, it'll be hard, but I'll do it. No pot? For real, that's what I like about it. Yeah, it makes me very withdrawn. And so, I've been like gradually weaned off. Congratulations. Oh, that means he's a real doctor. And so now I'm about a month I definitely feel more emotional You could have had Kevin Hardhost.

2:23:47 You do hug me too long now. I don't know yet. Yeah, yeah. They got on the right ones, and they had to experiment. it felt to be on them everyone everyone loved him loves you but you don't feel connected He was on malaria medication and drinking, which apparently you're not supposed to do. And I think I also threw a glass at – oh, fuck. I'm blanking, too.

2:27:16 But I was, like, out of my skull, and I just – yeah. I was like I have to stop this then you add to that jet lag and the trauma of being separated from my kids yeah yeah the malaria He does. It's like people think like suicide, things like if you're close to suicide, it's the most rational choice you'll ever make when you're that close. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

2:29:51 But so even though I'm happy that my brain injury seems to have cured my depression. and her outbursts and all the crazy stuff she says on twitter yeah it's because i know her She was 15 years old She couldn't count anymore. jesus christ this is like taking a person with a broken leg and saying you know i'm mad at you yeah like just wild and that is like kinnison and it came out of head injuries yeah you know really

2:32:08 Well, the Texas School Book Depository shooter. Yeah. Yes Who have never had It's amazing, though. It does happen, for real. spectrum issues, where they're far better at mathematics far worse at social interactions how much time was it before you felt like did you just stop drinking on the spot yeah i it was Wow. I gotta stop drinking I hated You just hung in there

2:35:13 Yeah. But that's only positive for you, Paul. Now it's deliberate. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Come on. But human lifespan hasn't changed at all since since Yeah, thousands of years ago, people did live to be over 100. You know, you don't have to do anything crazy. We are old people now. weird i'm really almost 60 yeah you know 56 that's almost 60 it is you know it's closing in on it

2:39:10 It's great man And it's so good You'll feel amazing Great They're there at 10am Yells at you. I have to go pee again. Oh, okay. I don't see him enough. i was completely insane what what where was the switch for you well i got older and wiser and Would you like come into work with a, you're always did you always keep it up i work work out for sanity. I've always worked out for sanity.

2:41:47 and probably wind up calling somebody and apologizing or something. like I did martial arts in order to have clarity. That's good. Like three hours a day The highest score won The more peaceful I felt Weed, too. Take a yoga class. I found out it's hilarious. All my life. Oh, my God. years or something did it work uh sure i guess i don't i mean she didn't stay in touch no what do

2:45:30 I'm like. I would get like a pain in an area. And it was in a certain spot What's going on with his dick It's hilarious I gotta do that okay that's It is a little bit of torture, but it's really good for you because your body produces heat shock proteins that are similar to when you go into a sauna. I have her on all the time and she's a genius. Stroke

2:47:57 What they're essentially Heat Heat Sauna Just sauna Just sauna heat Sitting in a sauna Going in a sauna Your body producing those heat shock proteins And those cytokines 20 minutes of yoga? No, no, no Heat Because almost all ailments and issues Like on the couch for like two months It may have been it was going to explode it felt like there was this pressure building up in it and it was literally

2:49:16 Yeah. Yeah. Take it with No just Yeah I do Inflammation. Mm-hmm. That's one effect. Because I've quit drinking I wanted more sugar Oh yeah That was one effect I do, I had dessert Saturday night So good. That's what I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah Two days a week Yeah I'd love to Tell people the name of your podcast again. Give away your Instagram handle and Twitter handle.

2:52:56 And if we've got this wrong, you can just do some sort of web search on your own. It was fun