Joe Rogan Experience #1254 — Dr. Phil Transcript

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0:00 Here we go in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. How did this happen? And we work with her, and we send her to this ranch for like four months, right? gets the daughter involved. One night, crashes. So they come back for a follow-up, like, I don't And off they go. I wish everybody well. It makes no sense. no sense. Seriously? of dollars seriously yeah she got like a close to a million dollars from a makeup company

4:48 she's surrounded by mature people with business heads on their shoulders and development people And, you know, and I was actually Very impressed with her that she actually went to the Nice girl very smart and standout phrase in the interview or anything it just passed by somebody just grabbed it and They're pretty layered. You go to the doctor and you say, this hurts

7:44 problems are very complex. Nobody does anything in pattern if they don't get a payoff. for themselves or their kids or whatever, if you control the currency, then you can that it's a positive payoff. It's a pathological thing. So then you'll start showing up for your kid heard them say things I've said and they left and didn't get it I got it I'll never do that again

11:38 And you could clearly see how they're ruining their lives by not being honest. I mean, last year, we have a channel where we put up different clips from divorce shows So I think they're hungry for it and they look for it. You know, I think that's true is you compare your personal truth, what you know about yourself and how you really live and what's really going on,

14:21 life we think we deserve. And so I think a lot of people are struggling, looking for a way to kind of get out of feeling you can get them thinking about it. Yeah, and the important thing to realize as well is the next year is going to go by whether you're doing something about your life or not. And if you don't, by the end of the year, you're just in deeper.

16:52 Trying to get done Be accountable Or somebody that's going to say change this well someday ain't a day of the week you know there's monday tuesday wednesday thursday and all the people that have taken that advice and made those little incremental changes in their lives If you've got anxiety, you've got PTSD, whatever, it's okay. Everybody has a philosophy about it, and I'm not saying that mine's any better than anybody else's,

20:03 I see a lot of depressed people that, in a sense, it makes sense. I mean, put somebody in a chemical straitjacket because their life's falling apart? A lot of people that are depressed are just realistically reacting to a crummy circumstance I mean, if you've gotten a divorce, lost your job, your health's in bad shape, your kids are alienated from you, and you're saying, I'm fine, then you're not in touch with reality.

22:05 It's a U, not an O. M-U-N. It's a U, not an O. That's what I'm talking about. And get in the grass If you're in pain like the the term depression or what it doesn't i mean i don't really remember it being a thing And there is now. And some people think that's a good thing. So I think the more people you can get into the profession, so long as there's a degree of competency, is better.

25:53 how many people are on medication. But in my personal experience, ask why. And they just give it to them because medicine has become a high volume business So why mask that? Yeah. There's a lessening in activity level. You're less likely to get strokes. You're less likely to get rewarded. And that's where you lose me. a normally active brain that you're now making hyperactive. So you're creating a problem that

31:11 impossible to manage. I mean, there's definitely a lot of great pharmaceutical drugs that help a lot of people. And these things are getting written with way too high a pill count. And No, this is obviously a very disturbing pattern, but where do you see this going? and I think it is at an epidemic level. And I've testified before Congress about this,

35:08 I mean, the numbers are just going through the roof. opioid, one pill they gave me in the hospital. And after that, you can manage it with like Tylenol or something Yeah, there's no sense in being like macho. needs to happen is just be a lot more conservative about what you're giving is the problem is these And that doctor might be a foreign doctor that flew in from offshore, wrote all the prescriptions during the day, flew off again at night.

38:16 by getting clips of the show and that sort of thing. And there's a whole population that's watching broadcast television during the day that maybe isn't in the digital space. I don't have somebody there that has a problem for me to solve. I'm just talking to people that because I have to give all my attention to the story in front of me. So I got, what, nine students or something. He's a little bit of university.

41:37 what do you say i mean i like having those kind of conversations did the same thing with shack He said it's his drive to win. That's all they want to do, and if they lose, it's almost insufferable. They feel it more. If you go through life in a success-only journey, God, how boring would that be? Yeah. how can we reinvent ourselves for next season?

45:48 and so we work real hard to figure out how can we have a bigger impact? But that's pretty cool that out of all these years of doing that and giving out advice, And I did Oprah for five years before cool and uh so that's that's 22 years and then I don't want to get bored. the headline and talk about, here's what really happened. As Paul Harvey said, here's the rest

48:03 You don't have to have anybody telling you what to do. Lie Spotting? Yeah. Yeah, Jamie and I, we shut the, once the cameras were off, And two people are lying in wait And he's going to get it Yeah and he's going to get it. Rather than just telling you what they did or didn't do, You know, they're just convincing you that there's this nice guy. I think they should be held fully accountable to the extent of the law.

51:44 some things that you can tell people to watch for, This is some Perry Mason type shit. Okay, now, people talk at 125 words a minute. What could it have been? You need to get a baseline on what they normally look like, talk like, feel like. I mean, you ought to really objectively figure it out before you rely on these things. People that are wrongly accused are generally irate from the beginning till the end.

55:58 Or if they invoke the deity. Well, my favorite one was he was on stage and called himself the gay Tupac. A lot of fake crime. like it's emblematic of how the system treats them overall. I'm just role-playing how I'm overall treated. Wow. Well, somebody said that the really talented singers and actors were the weird kids from high school that were in drama and all of that.

59:52 He goes, you could just cry there's something about that old boy I can't stand about me. I'm so terrified of seeing weakness and just being pathetic. Why are you doing a podcast? I mean, I couldn't wait to talk to that guy. Yeah, and he was telling me about friends that have been killed, you're naturally very curious you don't struggle for the next question because you really want to

1:02:32 And if you're curious about human functioning at all, human nature at all, there's an endless menu of things you can talk about. and they're not. Yes. You know, and it's a lot of times it's people that are entirely confident that they've done the work. and then getting your body in shape, getting your body conditioned, too much this is really strange dance you know and this uh this this weekend is a giant ufc

1:05:45 going to apply their trade and one of the most complicated things it's a battle of physical maybe it's 80 20 maybe and then the the stare down you look at the guy and you look at him like god It can change a little bit, They've done what they're doing. See you tomorrow. a fight that he was destroying the guy and he was hitting the guy with it's a really dumb rule but

1:08:25 And Jon Jones hit this guy with a couple 12 to 6 elbows and he was disqualified in a fight he was There's these LeBron Jameses, these Larry Birds. fight businesslike he would have a look he was the highest level There was no sign. I think if you go in with doubt, man, I just think that's terrible. They're staring across the ring at him like, oh jesus what did i sign up for yeah they're thinking

1:11:05 That was him back then. You know, he lost that connection with Customato. Yeah, there was a lot of factors. The task exists. Yeah, and that's sad. But people evolve and they grow, and he's a great example of that. Just to get a little exercise in Huh Yeah. Which is crazy because that guy is who made him rich and famous and everybody loves him things and and weakness like real weakness like weakness weakness can get exposed in a variety

1:14:58 He would run them through his head. What ward was it? And he didn't make it out, but he got seven or eight people out of there. And you go back and you check his history, and he was a military hero. show you that they've got the focus to hang, or they may show you that they're a hero, but life circumstances are going to come along and they're going to show you who somebody is.

1:17:17 Come on. learn that this guy's buttoned up, ready to go, dependable, never misses. known to parenting. baseball team and actually get a hit when we needed to, or we watch ourselves get onto the Look back and say, okay, how did I get to be Joe Rogan as I sit in that chair? Giving them this opportunity to realize that there's a line between success and failure,

1:21:16 For kids, where nobody wins the game It's also psychologically, it's coddling. So, okay, look, go do something else. You know that's like I mean, I'm just not good at that. And you have to be able Not for you either You know It would say, like, the War of 1812 happened in 1812. you had it 100%. And they said, wow, this is great. you can't do this because that's not the way life is. And if, I mean, you're not teaching

1:25:26 Darrell Bock Yeah, and that worries me. Wow, that's crazy because you may have to, as a lawyer, you may have to represent someone at things for how they are. society, in an open society in an open And the joke was that people think that a woman can do everything a man can do. I'm getting in. Yeah. Including people that have no idea about physics I can comprehend well.

1:30:05 Well, once you do something and you're good at it, you can accept not being good at other things. But I found a currency because at that time in my life, I was a pretty decent athlete passionate about and that you could also excel at and if you can work it out where it's your about, I mean, and I don't mean that in a cliche way. Yeah, expose yourself to different things with that very purpose of finding something that you love.

1:32:56 when you're a parent is to try to expose your kid to as many different things as possible He never took me to the lake. You can't sleep. Yeah. Where can they get it? Well, it's fill in the blanks, tell people how they get a hold of your podcast. Where can they get it? I mean, how about that? And I've been bald since I was like 12, so My teammates would say, what the hell is in your helmet?

1:35:42 I'd look a little creepy with one. Oprah went hard on you. You've got to come do mine.