Joe Rogan Experience #1260 — Lennox Lewis & Russell Peters Transcript

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0:00 Just don't crash as much. Don't mess with the best. Feel good about it too How did you do that? And what you don't know about me, It was hard for me when I retired. an interesting thing with In shape again That's what made me whole cast you do look like you're losing weight though you look pretty slim i think i lost 21 How does he fare up against a kickboxer?

3:09 I kind of carry myself like that. Silent, but violent oh i like that silent silent but violent it is an interesting thing though about about fighters is that you're when you think of exercise you think of exercises You had a reason Without maintaining that lifestyle Thanks 15. Wow. You know what I mean? He's like, I'll give you 20 bucks. He had the new shit going on.

5:25 When you see him wrestling with people on TMZ, you see that shit? And then the other guy in front of him pulled him down and I couldn't get the neck. Okay, so here's what happened. This is where he makes his little move. He's a big, strong fucking guy, too. Just let me get the arm. you'll see i lock the wrist here as soon as i lock the arm he says he says okay he stops moving

7:09 I want to know He whacked his head Cops came Wow, you're a hero For six months Scoping the place out. Do you worry about that? Yeah, as ridiculous as it sounds. said all right as soon as i locked him up he goes okay and i go okay good and then he had one knee Just put him to sleep. No, I started thinking after if he had a gun or if he had a knife but i'm like if he had a gun he

9:41 boxer after a while like what other shit can i learn? I kept arm locking them when we were in England. Like what? Do you watch MMA today today yeah do you would It's for some people like Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey. That's the problem. I stick that leg out there I don't think fighting for your legs and if it's a guy like your size like a rico verhoeven like who's a glory world heavyweight kickboxing champion

12:36 No. play it off champ he got hit with one leg kick then he got a hit with another one but he he See, he got hit again. Because like I said, I got hit there and I was like, my leg couldn't move. He got clipped. Yes. just crack him with a punch and knock him out, which he did. Yeah, under 100. You know, which I respect so much. I'm going to go do some movies

15:12 for his boxing though it's like have to reach you reach that height where you say okay that's enough and sometimes you know people So I actually stuck around for a couple more years for that fight to happen because I didn't want, throughout history, people would be saying, I'm like, yeah, that sounds good. Took the fight 17 days notice. I've been training for two years

17:57 Yeah, right hand that caught him just at the end of my punch when he leaned back and he couldn't lean Yeah. So I held on. After the first three rounds. I'm coming forward. Yeah. I was going to say the rematch. is that what bothered you so much? Box the best guy out there. You know, I say, I'm a world champion, so I need to fight all around the world.

21:09 for two minutes and then go back and sit there for another two hours while they change the lights so It was Cape Town, right? dealing with although he was there a lot earlier but you know i had a couple things going wrong but you know that under the right circumstances, this guy is not at your level? he wouldn't throw a lucky punch like that. He called it a little early, I would say.

23:18 Like, you know, if that was the ref, he would have counted him out straight away. know to me he's being put on the shelf now he has to box somebody that nobody really wants him to He's a big baby. He's going to move. It's a mental thing. I was at that fight. And you see a guy just eating him And some guys are just made out of rocks. They're just built better.

26:17 It hit you on the chin. And when I look at tape of it, it's like, wow, I did get hit. hits for that like two years now this man hit you with two years uh um and you're getting used to it So the Haseem Rahman fight, after it was over over were you worried that you were going to get a He just wanted to get out of there. Well, you got to give him the rematch.

28:30 Wow. Steve Harvey suit. yeah just waited if you're going to get the fight or not Rockman went to sleep, sleep. Now, he got kind of a little frustrated because he couldn't catch me. Yeah. Yeah, well, what are you going to do now? And then once I got to Emmanuel, we just like, yo, he said, hey, you're a great fighter. relationship right he was really one of the

32:41 then emmanuel started working for me and he's like oh he's doing the jab he's doing well but if you're not and they let you know Like mixed martial arts commentary. because you're fighting with all the fighters yeah it's hard when you watch a friend of yours Mostly So I try and bring it across But if there's something that someone needs to work on or do, I'll try to pull them aside.

34:34 they're some of the greatest because the way they matched up, it bernard hopkins when he fought antoine eccles he uh i might i might be wrong you mean like a he's like no no no and then he came back with his left hand only. This is Bernard Hopkins. That's how they do it in Japan. get back in on your own people know about that hey yeah you're good that's interesting

37:45 yeah he doesn't spend one day out of shape yeah and he eats clean and doesn't party yeah he's still Yeah. Oh, man. They chased him out of the stadium. And then He was too good Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. If he turned and went like, You know, beaten Tyson you'd beat Tyson that was kind of at the end of his stage too, right? what's going to make him some money that's going to put um food on this table so it's like i look

41:20 That's why they were called prize fighters because they wouldn't make Ray Arcel did that fight, I think. Gene, yes. Fully built Like more whipped it's nothing else. how many dudes before it's enough? So he's probably, get to go put handcuffs on him or something like that um anyway situation that yeah i hope a lot But then you were chasing the bow fight.

43:56 Tried to pick a fight with me the other day. He wanted to stand beside me and take a picture. He's had a rough time. he paid that price man he he paid that price and you can hear it when he's talking now it's rough You listen to Meldrick Taylor. pernell once well there's a lot of one of the things that they say with older fighters is uh He's punchy.

46:22 It's both things. So far. How often do you play chess? Whoever jumps in the battle. He is, no. And he'd be like When you play often what he is the joe rogan of pool to Lennox of chess. Yeah, it was good. because that table has four-inch pockets. they'll give you a five inch pocket or a five and a half inch pocket. What type of cloth is that? Some guy had it in his basement forever.

49:26 It's annoying, but you probably have like a decorative pool table. He never come to my house as a, as a solo man. why you stay so sharp yeah i would imagine yeah there's a time restriction 10 minutes so you played that that where you hit the slap the clock yeah well on 10 minutes for a move They talk a lot of shit, huh? Oh, no. that are they explain to you like it becomes your whole life like you start thinking like as you're

51:34 Do you use an online name? Look at you. There I am, Washington Square Park. Look at that. Playing some master. uh-oh let the shalom because i made this name uh a long time ago and see you there i am washington playing this interval i think this is the government I'm playing. Champ's retired right now. what where you can just this game right now Let me tell you, my wife gives me problems on this.

54:09 we need to do this. are you playing chess? Ah, I can't either. Well, you know what? How do you play this game again? I play billiards. And then you have to get in the hole of the. Russian. It's a different game. Well, if you know how to play it, it's good to watch. to it it feels good but with that it just clicks it's like just ding ding ding click but the people

56:29 No, you'd fuck me up. What's Quake? What is this quake? So it's just like, That's different. Do you cut it up same spot? Like what leftover? Oh, okay. Yeah, everything. all the time do you cook yeah all the time that was bear taste here's a question for you good The real issue is when you have an animal that has parasites. jerk chicken all day i love jerk chicken jerk chicken it's hard to find a mox tail out it's

59:52 Is it Beverly or 3rd? I might be off though. I bet I'd love it. and when i left london to go to jamaica i was like wow all these different vibrant colors even And that there was a stigma with English boxers for a long time. They would stand straight up and they would have like that European style. there was guys that were pretty good, like Frank Bruno, pretty

1:01:37 Was there ever a man more jacked as a heavyweight boxer than Frank Bruno? He's so big. Even at the age of like 65. That was like his big fight to prove himself as a professional. It might have been Eddie Davis. One leg kick. He was gigantic man And he was super wide. You know, all the champions right now, they didn't get to be champions for no reason.

1:04:10 great fights now it's to guess which style is going to beat which style you never know because And he does it with both legs in the air. but Ortiz is much older than he says he is. though yeah because they say that same shit about yoel romero he says he's 39 yeah he just fought So as much as possible, it's usually four fights a year. match move there is first he comes over from england He takes the challenge with Deontay.

1:07:01 and they want to see Tyson Fury again That's about it. So the fact that he rose like Lazarus. Yeah. I mean, it was insane. Oh, my God. The first knockdown was great. The second knockdown was preposterous. an exciting fight that the rematch obviously everybody wants to see the rematch again Deontay keeps the title, Yeah, I mean, And now none of them can fight each other because if Joshua fights Fury and loses to Fury, Joshua's star goes down.

1:09:18 That's a weird thing, too. Yeah. Ortiz is past his prime. But right now, he's obviously older, and he's an old fighter. Yeah. Right. Doesn't matter. You don't want to say. Have you ever asked him if he's been on steroids? evander used and they were doing it was really interesting because at the time the the He was built. You definitely can get that big without it.

1:12:42 Yeah, but this is in the 80s and 90s. Look how thin he was Yeah, I mean look Supposedly undetectable steroids This is the top 100 meter times And they took his title away. It was a dirty sport. It's what you put into your system. They work instantly, but, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah. You overtrain, which is a big issue with fighters Hard work almost immediately i think they have to do uh you pretty much your body goes septic on you yeah it's

1:17:25 What Yeah woke up I ran You're a comedian. I'd be at his house and I was like, I'm in his basement. And I'm like, dude, it's raining and my sunroof is open. And I'm pulling his leg. Really? But somebody told me, or just doing something wrong just doing something wrong especially if you do it too hard too quick Your body gets Where they're trying to find out

1:19:56 get you get in there your body's like what the fuck is this and so it produces these cytokines It smells good. You ever do a float tank? Total silence, total darkness. Dude I got one right here I'm the only one I can just drop in through this commercial filtration system it's heavy duty stuff man it's pretty intense because they've started these going wrong and you're getting maimed. So do you enjoy doing commentary too?

1:22:49 So, you know, Oh, Miguel, yeah. fighting like he like he thinks of what he would have done to his own sons like oh don't do that like he has in at least that problem there's a problem in front of you the problem is another man who's the same weight as you best. I'm like, didn't fight the best. I thought Americans said the best team. Yeah, but one guy,

1:25:24 He took me in his room, showed me some old flicks that I've never seen before of old-time fighters. and then the second day was a little hectic, lennox has the footage of it footage of the training sessions sparring how old was tyson He was about 17. You went up there before you went to the 84 Olympics. And some people, you have to shout at them. Perfect time for us

1:27:59 like maybe his time had already been gone. And Mike lost in January of 89. He had a big neck. They would tell you the kid was 16 and really he was 20. That was part of the problem. to just get out there and fuck people up because that's where he got the love that's where he got And, you know, he wound up marrying Robin Givens. had lasted another five years.

1:30:38 And then Teddy Atlas that were with him. They got there When he was up with Cuss, he was, he was in listening to anybody. He's Mike Tyson. They also weren't boxing people as far as I was concerned. When he was up with Cuss, he was in a good situation. You know, how do you deal with this situation? I always take that opportunity. they go, oh, okay. Yeah, it's for young kids that,

1:32:43 You know, it's like this is know i was going through that and i liked how he dealt with it you know it's like it yes this is what we're what's missing nowadays yes the relationship Like you accomplished it. them that if you keep working at something you'll accomplish it you know don't give up don't all of His father used to box, so why not try something his father did?

1:34:25 to be successful you know they've they're they're basically i'm trying to help them to become the tone apparently which one it is so strange inflection on the i'm watching her fight and i'm She's going to get hurt, so you might as well. martial arts for a while my middle daughter was doing jiu-jitsu and my youngest daughter was doing lennox's bones i mean you know you know god damn i got a decent fist but a heavyweight it's like a

1:37:14 Listen, he's six foot, and he wears size 15 shoes. Like a great date How much protein children have now Cause nobody had good food. Tougher than we could ever be. but now today kids are are getting massive amounts of protein and they get vitamins and vegetables and drinking all this milk. Like, a lot of Japanese folks used to be much smaller. Conspiracy theories.

1:38:48 Oh my God, I saw an amazing NASA shirt I was going to buy for Eddie the other day. than i ever used to population control do you believe that no i don't believe that i don't Imagine if you were the all-powerful, Even in this country, people are fucking like wild animals and just shooting out kids. No, I think they lifted that. Yeah, daughter was like the lose for you.

1:40:30 a little joseph lennox lewis peters coming next month joseph lennox rogan peters he's gonna be Beautiful. It's beautiful. I think the Russians absolutely wanted Donald Trump to win. Next week. and all sorts of unrest online. They did a lot of shit like that, real sneaky, sneaky stuff were these bitches this whole time where was she in the propaganda that's so true you never saw the

1:43:12 They were hiding. I'm not American, there's also some big ass gaps and the idea that they're going to stop drugs from coming over from Everybody People that were ever did anything to me and i'm not going over there and fighting anybody and they took away because of what he stands for. Max even said he wasn't part of it. fee he gave the guy 100 he goes what's this for he goes i'm gonna come back later that night

1:46:33 And the guy's like This video of Jack Johnson wrestling Well, you know, of the 20th century oh right get it oh yeah in 2000 they did Not yet. Yeah. Yeah. He had a fascinating style. You break your fucking hands real easy, too. You cannot do that if you're fighting bare knuckle. Yeah, they're definitely tough. Yeah, no matter how. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. Quite a few MMA fighters.? Yeah, he did one. Yeah. Yeah.

1:49:20 What about 1FC? Yeah. My assistant? They got me busy. We're talking about chess and get the fuck out of here. I don't have to be somewhere until 4.30. Sean Porter is fighting this weekend. Oh, nice. It should be a very good fight. This guy reminds me of the old time fighters taking the shot Yeah, it makes me nervous I like them both I would have preferred Mikey had one more

1:52:36 damn yeah teddy's up there right now working with that uh light heavyweight russian character did you really? Your hands itself? Fucking, you got soft hands. So he was like, I wanted to look good. Toughen you up with sand. That apparently is very good for your hands. yeah I know it doesn't hurt as much have you seen them? I have no idea what that is I wear the three finger it. They make a two-finger and a three-finger.

1:54:35 Not necessarily, but it keeps your fingers together. Wow. Why is it weird? We're rolling tomorrow, right? Depending upon whether or not you use the gi, I have a black belt in no-gi jujitsu I just don't use it. In particular Well it's Oh yeah I want to earn the stripe. dumbbells but uh dumbbells but my elbow freaking hurts lately so like this is the thing i was

1:57:59 Let's see. Yeah. Len. I remember those. Yeah, like a stick with a roller. Those are great, yeah. I have one of those out there, too. It's just, that's one of the day. Those are great. People just used to fabricate them in the gym. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember those. Yeah, like a stick exercises. You would be awesome it's, It's where, you know, a person manipulates your bone and then drops their whole weight on it.

1:59:56 if you want yeah there's some nasty shit the thing is like there's no end to jiu-jitsu there's no end what that is it's where you put somebody in between your legs when you describe it sounds He just put it into a more, Well, All jujitsu essentially. That's Eddie right there.ie move. It is. Well, it's a jiu-jitsu move. It's a Bravo move. All jiu-jitsu, essentially.

2:01:47 You don't have the collars to grab the he wraps you up with his legs like that it's very it's very demoralizing yeah you get so Yeah. I was telling him earlier. Scratch was playing? Scratch. Let me tell you, they're building like mad over there. But now it's like you'd go to the stores. We saw some I did that place He came. Come on back. like i'll ask you this why are people so nice they're so much nicer than americans it's uh i don't know it's different there's nice americans

2:04:59 And, you know, it's an outgoing thing. where there's a lot of up-and-coming people or is it there's a lot of comics in canada a lot of Yeah, that's the problem is that the club, I liken it to the UFC almost to a certain degree. You know, the pay scale at these clubs is the same as it was in the 80s, people think that boxers make millions of dollars because floyd mayweather make 100 million dollars

2:07:37 opposed to boxing is the uh win lose bonus i don't like that i think a fighter i think a And they might Every time I listen to the – that's when you're a fan of the sport, Like, say this. and then fight of the night yeah i don't like when people fight any different than the way Cerrone's got a ton of those. grew up with money didn't he like a decent he grew up with a decent lifestyle terribly poor

2:09:51 BJ grew up with a wealthy family. I thought he retired. Are you talking about? portuguese word i think that's what they call it i mean it gets your it's from your leg it's a yeah You know what's funny is when I'm a big fan of the in-arm choke, someone do it techniques that you ever since then The first thing is you're trying to create some space here so that you don't go to sleep.

2:12:35 And then you're trying to get in here and create a little bit of space. and flatten you out and squeeze down, it's horrible. Then he'd get into the big ones yeah those make me laugh they're so sad oh yeah that's what you put you put seems legit yeah well oh what is this guy doing i haven't seen this one is this a new one i just picked one that I bet that guy could get them to suck his dick the same way.

2:15:32 But, yeah, what you're saying is perfect. And Lopez isn't a banger that one little concussion, because he got over the hump. Was he injured? That was a bad one. Yeah. Monkey juice. I had Alex Ariza train me before. Yeah. I mean, look, the fucking, the fact that he talked everybody into that Conor McGregor Another boxer? Yeah. like the way one fc is doing their weight thing yes that's pretty cool a lot yeah for people don't

2:19:29 Yes. What was it, about 240? No, just Jamaican food. If it ain't broke Against Thomas Hearns There was a lot of good trainers back then. I think part of the problem with a lot of the young kids right now, they need to get good trainers. trainer really helps your your game were you were you with manny when you fought mercer so I kept my hands I hate getting fat lips

2:21:55 fat lip it's right after one of your fights from like 97 and then then man he said you know what After that fight, no more fat lips. Is so important Are just former fighters A trainer Just knew how to raise fighters. Freddie Roach is recognized And he got knocked up a lot of alcohol Yeah, I've trained with Buddy before. Yo, you haven't trained with me yet.

2:24:16 gentlemen thank you everybody that was great