Joe Rogan Experience #1271 — Billy Corben Transcript
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0:00 5, 4, 3, 2... kids i don't want to give away too much of it uh but it's about the steroid scandal involving Yeah. shit that went down in nightclubs in shady clinics with fake doctors hotel rooms bars sort of florida fuckery farce and so we just wanted to keep in that in that mode so i'm watching the about it and I said I'm going to break your neck and I'm like oh shit, they're so vivid and in the moment and talk in dialogue.
3:33 And so Spike Jones was like, okay, we, mansion, hot tub, but they'll all be eight years old. It's like it's a it's a Christmas pageant performed by elementary school kids. that's a little light you know and it's like this children's musical but we intercut it with real Like, like cocaine cow babies would not have been appropriate. Well, I don't want to give too much of it away because I really want people to watch it.
6:28 or just didn't try to rip him off. and hang out at this doctor's office in the waiting room telling everybody how great it was. whole thing yeah it was not about him don't tell alex that but it's not about him you know it's it it was really the highest the career of the highest paid baseball player of all time It's just, it's, and that's what this story is% uncut florida fuckery yeah it's just it's and that's what this
8:30 export from miami is just schemes and scams well it's just so amazing that it's still a cocaine down there but it's basically at this point of money a real estate hustle and a money laundering Well, certainly there certainly was before the, you know, the the the Great Recession when a lot of them started shutting down. yeah now it's from the inside out but no none could be truer than than that story and that's
11:26 read our smoke signals that's why i say like the miami of today is the america of tomorrow You keep the phone, You presume it was to use their phone. They just kept getting up and coming back people are so much more chill and calm here in traffic in la i swear to god and la was famous you know i'm a native floridian and a lifelong miami and i for a while i was i was pretty
14:02 So he did his residency in emergency rooms in Miami. Everywhere else a light bulb goes off over your head. I don't think it is. 1980, trauma center jackson memorial our emergency room in miami and he said he got a mariel refugee these they someone would cheat at dominoes and they would just pull out a gun and one guy would shoot was pretty well convinced that it was a revenge shooting for the other shooting and the guy knew
17:14 That's something that one of her clients had slipped into her pocket as a tip. There's no place like it. huge in miami yeah yeah we got all these brickle brickle east a thousandaires you know driving world economy down there the disparity between the haves and the have-nots the income gap He is the biggest Medicare fraudster in the history of the United States.
19:57 the largest industry in the state like you're gonna be the governor of michigan you should this tiny little one-room office by little mailboxes you know like po boxes and a mailman comes in every day and just puts well thanks obama but did you watch the oxycontin express did you see i haven't seen it now but Sometimes it wasn't even next door. know what you need go to that window over there and fill this prescription and we had more pill
23:00 government crack down on that shit? Why didn't they regulate it? Well, first, our governor, And Florida was like, well, How does he not have a guy who can get him jerked off? Well, the fact that they were filming out that might have been a bit overblown no pun intended of block overblown but of course that's Okay? Talking about low-hanging fruit. Yeah.
25:50 What do you mean it's consensual? Hey, I'll suck your dick I mean, you talk about people holding power over people. Seriously. The person gets something out of it. I don't really, first of all, it's a contract between two consenting adults. Because it's forced underground, danger and a threat to society that wouldn't exist if you're like, well, wait, what if you just let me smoke this?
28:53 You go all the way back to the alcohol prohibition, to what's going on right now with the cartels. Like, if you don't know anybody who's a criminal, like, say if you want to buy meth now. drum up some meth in a few days if i started asking but uh you know i would not have any and I don't think it's changed much here. who's going to turn around and go,
30:58 but how many fucking people are on Adderall? But I don't think he's on – but he's always – you always hear him with the – I think he's like bumping Addy. an exorbitant amount of energy i mean it's quite impressive for a man in his 70s who eats shit drug a hundred percent talk to journalists how many journalists will be totally honest about it? I go, I don't need that in my life.
33:16 energy yeah i was like jesus i'm worried that i would love it that's what i'm concerned i'm we're saying church of what's happening Happening Now podcast with Joey Diaz. the story. I was like, just panting on my hands and knees. you went to Colorado and didn't smoke. So I go out and I try it. On the wall Not a lot Well I am your friend That's all I want
36:15 It's not what it used to be here these little backwoods that Jesus that is not regular weed that's got a glass tip and that but it was i had a lot of fun yeah sativa is more um you're thinking more it's a little bit you have I go, because it's the baby Jesus' day. Because they're always on TV telling you to send your money to Jesus, right? money to Jesus because he apparently needs, I don't know what he needs with it, but he needs a lot of money.
39:12 Yeah, it's not. I'm telling you. He's on all the time. I kind of think he made that name up, right? after people that are so poor and destitute that they can't pay their bills. And they tell them, The weak, the poor, the people searching for answers? Hypocrites. arena. They do He has several houses. I think it must feel wonderful and castrated and but like let's have some consistency.
43:43 Then he was a Democrat again. Like, oh, the crystals and the lights. a little kid i have a great amount of respect for people who grew up in a cult and who can Framework they've been living their life under is all the utter horseshit And only he could read them because he had a magic rock. Scientology is even crazy. Even after the Leah Remini show We know
47:23 If you know Meaning like the information is there it's benefits us like i'm not a fan of these videos where kids try to skateboard off the side of a me thinks that because there is no utopia right there is no enlightened people there's no one Because of that, I think we operate under this weird system where you've got to see the failures in order to recognize that failure is possible.
50:37 you just it's where you fuck up that like you you learn the most from it and and i think i feel like as a white man in america all They're other people's movies. And I hung it over. It's either for a number of years it's not there anymore but like down the hatches and get this ship right because i can't experience that again like right in front of my eyeball like just above my my eyeline and he was doing material for one of
54:16 And he goes, thank you, sir. it's got like they bulldoze the whole fucking place they're supposed to be remodeling and and like and i've been in these rooms where like these guys and and i was just like these are the funniest people that i know and it's happened time and time again and i've been in these rooms where like these guys, and, and I was just like, these are the funniest people that I know.
56:04 I have such respect for that. in front of his mother, you go to gotta go to work you can't be complacent and that's one of the things that of the most dangerous people on earth while she was alive um and in this you also touch on that i mean there's you're a lot of these people are Yes, sir. I'm sorry. And then, I mean... i guess depending on how well it does uh it's being put out by greenwich entertainment who
59:11 That fucking guy, the tanner. and then didn't pay him and that's what caused this whole thing it is alex rodriguez has got these famous baseball players including the highest paid baseball player in the world a rod And what they did was, is that the felon who was doing it had a buddy at a neighboring He winds up selling A-Rod a blank hard drive for six figures.
1:02:22 just totally crazy and it's like i always say like you come down So that's the interesting thing about, because let's be real, I don't give a shit about steroids in baseball. night apparently okay there's an Adderall issue it's a performance- They have to make a 1 p.m. game, Is it that big of a deal? You don't get people that big. And they do catch them every now and then.
1:05:14 Absolutely. Because they turn into fucking baseball monsters, I think it's also because he ratted But his book was like, his book turned out to be like the Jose Canseco's book it's like i don't know i'm just guessing but his book was like his book turned out It was before the man found Christ. because he was born in the eyes of Christ is gonna go all in on this and then she lost the court case against him so she owes his legal fees
1:08:10 That clap back expression, like someone, Kim Kardashian claps back at the critics. daniels doing stand-up how can you do stand-up out of clap backs well they were calling her the queen These are broke. Isn't she? Okay, I'm sorry, Stormy. it's like even if a new accusation came out about what i call the new american values which are lie cheat and steal and get rich or get ahead
1:11:30 And we were adults who could laugh at it, lowensky scandal you saw an increase in sexually transmitted diseases through oral sex amongst impressionable youths were under the impression that you could He's hilarious. one of the big things, the news clippings, baseball sends the wrong message athlete is not just The problem is some of those shortcuts work.
1:15:22 people because he looked so ridiculous. They'd go and get a test. in the beginning so many people got caught and had a stethoscope hilarious called himself dr t yeah had said dr tony bosh he's a doctor in belize He was never a licensed physician in the United States, Like, you know, they don't go to medical school. Like, where is that a thing? You're feeling right.
1:18:30 until I started reading I'm sure you do that manipulating people Sounds like a Sondheim musical. This was his premise was based on. That it's not just you're dealing with pain. Yeah, but I don't see, do you see anything? We say irregardless in Miami because we're illiterate, but I use it ironically, though. scheme really prospered in the state of florida as you can imagine and um in no small part because there's a lot of doctors who from all over the country retire to florida but they are still
1:21:37 um you know we have a big immigrant community obviously in in miami we have a lot it's a huge but he was a true believer in himself he really thought he was helping people and listen the It causes depressions. that are looking at it in terms of a career in baseball or in any other sport where they could benefit, they go, hey, this is the price that I was getting on in the years, and Bosch started treating him, put him on a protocol, as he called it, take the, you know, that they were randomly tested, that wouldn't be detected. I don't know if that worked or not, or he was giving them placebos on certain days.
1:24:40 had given him and so piss dirty and as a result of the what you would assume was Listen to me. the game alex rodriguez yeah and so when they needed alex as the heel that was the storyline And A-Rod, who put it all on the line, fighting each other in this battle of the legacies with Bud Selig. or they're kind of fueling the apocryphal tale. Just hilarious.
1:28:01 I was just laughing. the way we shot this on set on location for 10 days, we had the playback on the set. So we were of just us running around these little kids with beards and mustaches and gray hair and the fucking in miami and that scene was a i mean that, we had like all those kids, like all the extra kids partying. Thanks. we turned cocaine cowboys into a stage play yeah you were saying that before we started and i'm
1:31:18 talking old sparky cases and the electric chair and so he wasating witness. So it read like a monologue. we turned it into Confessions of a Cocaine Cowboy. He's brilliant in the show. why are we doing cocaine cowboys for the theater in 2019 and And I was like, it's a good question because like it speaks to the relevance of like, why of tomorrow so here's a story about miami in the 1980s but it really resembles the america of today
1:33:42 And it's just a, you know, be like oh my god she was amazing zilla was amazing as uh as uh grizelda blanco who's the Amazing score. Did you think about that for a while? She's been the only state attorney we've had since Janet Reno left us for the Clinton administration. black kids on drug charges or whatever but like when it comes to enforcing public corruption
1:37:09 So the message that's being sent is a dangerous one. You look at the constants. just bury bodies that were just lying in the street or lying around like that was as a hobby with her friends and their youth you just run around and just bury bodies that were just lying in the street or lying around like that was just a hobby something for the kids with each other in the play about how different everybody is it's like that and how miami is like game of thrones and paradise with slightly fewer dragons
1:40:09 of what we're able to make of those of those opportunities and that was sort of the comparison in the play. But, I mean, 26 years and age almost 70, I call it a conspiracy of convenience because not every conspiracy involves a bunch of, And everybody just kind of, me you were doing it that's the first thing i thought of well being a lazy fuck i'm like oh
1:42:48 meaning like if i could just when i'm home if i can just chill i want to just chill right so if And we're actually seeing that. I mean, watching comedy on Netflix is one thing. 420, bro. What's it called? Yeah, I did the Jackie Gleason. I don't remember all of them. It's like I was saying earlier, like we're such a young city, just constant hustle so to have a place like that where it's like oh we're gonna take a deep breath
1:46:06 Why do you think O.J. Simpson moved there? a 30 plus million dollar judgment against him so he bought a fucking house in florida I don't know. of ways maybe even maybe even well i don't want to say more beloved. The Rock's pretty beloved. But that level. I mean, endorsements, Hertz rental car ads. Yes. athletes do you know who you would be like i want my kids to idolize this this person like
1:48:56 I don't know anything about baseball. year after he was injured for a while i think actually he might have been injured the following jlo's boyfriend but she knows the bottom line is she knows like he this i mean i think they're well you have to remember tony was doing a lot of cocaine at the time. Yeah. Like, you know, he had a guy that was like, you know, that he'd name after cars or name
1:52:31 um well he's five five years off uh off of cocaine which is good he went to federal prison and they say prison's the best place to to learn and uh that camp in alabama so we actually so one of my you know we were running And he's writing little protocols on a fucking cocktail napkin for the bartenders on how to build muscle how to lose weight so he was doing that in prison for inmates for like vitamins and supplements that they could
1:54:53 no yeah like this is pretty recently it hasn't happened yet but like he's looking around for new What does that guy do for a living afterwards? And he's quite funny. Well, that's always the bad decision-making route. Miami. So I'm like, yes, please. room. right down the center aisle, holding court and we literally so we literally have to like step up on stage to join him and
1:59:06 just lied to us um the whole time and i didn't know that i'm not a about everything i never met So he's just like, but he's a huge baseball fan. I mean, the whole point is you're supposed to tell the truth But we're not after you. And so, I don't know. Because you can't get in trouble, essentially, for any crimes that you admit they are about the investigation.
2:01:27 happen i was flattered um that that they you know write about me but like um but you didn't think story but like alfred alfred's pitches against a rod and who was already a senior already a beast oh, we have a funny, personal like you're looking at me right now he's just he was totally unamused and maybe looked even a little Super winners. But it's like, yeah, it be upset about that? You're one of the greatest of all time. Like super winners.
2:03:38 And man, they practically ghosted us out. gotten a book proposal from a rod he really did have the meeting with us but like so everything beautifully and brilliantly and then almost a year later we got a call from a friend of tony bosh see what happens tomorrow. I was like, depending on how much time the judge gives you, like, but 45 to 60 minutes to surrender.
2:06:32 whistleblower, and blew the lid off the whole thing this felt like it hadn't ripened yet like it was still a fresh wound you know like up tony i'm like i'll come visit you in alabama how much time did he have to do he wound up getting nailed it it's a great documentary I really enjoyed it like I really enjoy all of them Tell people how to get a hold of you.
2:08:42 Beautiful.