Joe Rogan Experience #1297 — Phil Demers Transcript

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0:00 Oh! with an irregular amount of stress. With the walrus right there. Dude, you don't mind my putting it there? This is my safe place. she's still there i was told that she is still there and she's in good shape and i'm hanging account of the fact that the animals were It's important to stress that, that she thinks I'm her mom. So she comes in traumatic at the age of, we estimate about 18 months of age, which is pretty old. In fact, uh, for our, in our experience at Marine lands experience of, of acquiring these wild caught baby walruses.

3:14 Well, this happened to her. I'd been gone for a month. I leave. I'd been trying to wean my presence off of her She was super skinny. my relationship with Smushi sort of took off. my having left started, people started to And also, look, I've got this relationship It should be stressed. It's like a, it's almost like a scorched earth. So they sued me.

6:26 it's never going to happen. Yeah. Well, no. I wrote a piece a long time ago on my blog. There's almost a language at this point. Yeah. they're bitch-ass world they don't have any houses they can't write a letter they're fucking stupid for, and for it, and it, it enhances their The only time that male will go on is when it's matured and it will go to procreate

10:27 It makes sense now. The males die younger. if someone stole your son and put him in an air box at the bottom of the ocean I'm sure you've heard of it. It's an animal. personal heroes he's the creator of the flotation tank this is all john lilly stuff he was a pioneer so that's a program. The deep self is really interesting. uh not the last time two times ago you actually uh sent me to crash yeah my man crash shout out

14:11 Oh, yeah. I first got a tank in like 2002, somewhere around then, 2002, 2003. So some mad scientist down there in Venice was just making these super over-engineered It's just that it just, it wasn't as well constructed it also wasn't nearly a local place uh from where uh where I'm from, was hands down a different I was all back there checking shit out.

16:11 Dude, there was no one making anything like that. It's going to be thought of the same way we think about slavery today. I mean, arguably responsible for the numbers, they skew it, they have free beer But as we speak, while we're amidst sort of a And I'm sure you're familiar with the whale This got worldwide attention, uh, a lot of Those are essentially sold and ready to go to

18:52 The governor in the area It's a couple of issues. not exactly a democratic uh environment What we know about what Marineland is doing currently We know that five other permits have been requested Suddenly what we're concerned is going to happen is those animals, So there's that concern. saying, see you later. Rather than move them to where they were at

22:10 um, It's like making someone a slave for how many years? are tolerating is just not the same as it was 10 years ago catch them and sell them as fast as you I can't even imagine. one of those things that i really think as people we're going to look back on and we're going to go, man, how did we in 2019 not know that that was insane? Plett a big ol', I win you piece of shit.

24:54 We've had to, as activists and the community at large, and again, I have to stress how much you've had a hand in this, you know doing his his uh so he was to kill it do you think that what do you think like why was he He went to Marine land as an invited guest. And by virtue alone of activists pressuring and I had a tweet storm set up. I promised them if this bill dies on account of

26:58 This was going to be his to kill. And I looked them all in the eyes. Commons that special interests pressured them at the last second. in a in a last is that legal can you say that No, you know what it's from? Sorry. I don't know. So you show up. which outweigh the, noted on the record sits down okay we'll go to number two i'd like to withdraw my amendment

29:34 And the fourth member of parliament stands up, that I don't know that the liberal party really is i think they're understanding that now and i think it's just one of those things that Yeah, But because we have them already. They know now that, uh, they're the new orcas. If you go to their Twitter, it's, you know, is passing. They got to get them out of here because at

32:23 associations. No, no, no, no, no. So what's happened is now through the but what's happened is because Vancouver Um, it's all just right now. orca out Yes. animals are born, you're just about losing wants that bloodline. So actually the public might actually be It is a race right now to, to get rid of Marineland's animals. I've never seen them work harder to suppress me

35:40 to come join me. C, certainly not promoting this event. The problem is they're never going to silence me. I'm not going to delete any of my tweets that have the word Marineland in them. Marineland. but as these lawsuits and as, So after six and a half years, uh, believed there could be some good faith that Now bear in mind, this is a court ordered Like let's get someone to manage it.

38:40 bill, which is really on this particular So we went, they didn't show up to the examinations knowing full well that I'd have I mean, resolutions of that sort. Well, of course they are. And so we did. to, basically they want to take away my right disclosure, I'm out of money. Do you have a GoFundMe? fact that legislation, nothing's really moved some back backstage stuff stuff some you know it

42:12 And you are part of the system. This is crazy. I mean, ideally what I would like is, I just want her transferred at this point to another facility. horse, it's Phil, I got this. Yeah, I'll move. I mean, really, it all sounds so crazy, Joe, Yes. time dealing with is look, we're in litigation and you know, in, The owner, the villain of the story is gone.

45:14 pieced off and, I have no hostilities. Well, I don't know. every, at every corner of this thing. I mean, they were sending people at 6am guy, dude. But, um, you know, this population of like 50,000, I'm a Wellander. things. I shouldn't say that. And they're keeping this constant pressure on you. I want a trial. 90% of the population that don't know.

48:45 Yeah. I don't understand. Like what, doesn't end with negotiations. I want the trial. Yeah. They fucked with the wrong guy. It's a dirty secret about the legal business, right? people what their business is what they're actually doing it's game over it's game over For what they tried to do to you, for what the which I sat on because I didn't know precisely what it is I was going to do with it.

50:51 So I'm in for a good chunk of change here. Well, I want to be, I want to be the 10% or less. you get a $50,000 of your, here's a hundred thousand dollars. You can just be free. I mean, I'm just still, I'm trying not to be they do try to call me hippie a lot too that's interesting i mean I mean, that's disgusting. Look, last time I was here, it was not

53:38 Well, people, you know, they just, you know, Thanks, Joe. You know, you said to me when we were in Toronto at dinner, you said, you should be a comedian. categories of course and for someone new i guess you'd probably be in is conservation a category abc news nightline but something like that could if someone wanted to follow this and and document it

55:48 So each time has been like three hours. It's like finding aliens and just keeping them in a cage somewhere. I really want, you know, it's the same premise Once they're dissolved, oh, you bet your ass I got lots to talk about. I do look forward to that day where I'm sort of free and unencumbered They sold the campground. Yeah. She's never really had a heavy hand in it.

58:17 but it wasn't like a management position, what we've been told is that, health, importing, exporting, things like this. Like it's just beyond her. So what, what, what we've been told is that something about me in there. I know. He stared at the camera. Oh, he's watching. How the fuck do you know it's not going to happen? I mean anyone who understands my language, that's hearing my words, you should stop.

1:00:36 that rather than signing any type of non-disparagement because i don't want my Yeah. Marineland guy. they've blacked out the fence, they're doing It was a thing of beauty. And I think, you know, they're trying to fast and let's just use the number 100,000, The narrative, And one of the things about lawsuits, this is a lot of what this is all. This lawsuit is going to end.

1:03:45 one anymore that's not how i saw it it's weird i'm oddly connected strangely addicted and married He hooked me up. Shout out that company. So get in there. it, she tried to like help this pig out that she found she fed the pig and then drove all the Is he coming here in May? I thought that he was coming on soon. A polar bear at a party? At his house?

1:06:21 Oh, my God, I'm getting anxiety. and this guy, the video was awful Easily could happen. What are you, a soothsayer? That's the bear right there. Look at that. Oh my god throat apart so so horrific so back to the the whitney thing so whitney's just just harping on dan bill's energy Anyways, they put the comment up. Oh, when has a bear ever walked out and said,

1:08:41 Right. And I guarantee you they don't all do that. there are people that have bears that raise them i'm not in any way shape or form endorsing keeping bears in captivity. Well, he's feeding it. But it's not likely that that thing starved. that's an electric face i that's again an assumption i'll say but again i don't see how You can find a healthy balance, right?

1:11:14 It's a really, it's a disgusting display. like waving. animal sort of confined to a bunch of them of the things that happened and bear in mind, and it's jaw dropping. It's weird. A lot of people, we're not, see, because the veil is only now sort of coming off and people are sort of now getting the truth on the matters, you start to see things for what they are.

1:14:07 size of this room kind of thing. And yet here, these people having, knowing legacy business. with dogs and cats which are these domesticated weird weird little fluffy friends. They are not animals. in the actual wild, Because that, that that from our last show, you know, Washington state and see orcas in the wild. Wow. and they're starving? can't get through the flow is gone so they put the system in a long time a long time ago so it's

1:17:56 the Southern resident killer whales is really, I mean, you can't look at an animal capable of Yeah. of, uh, of bond because. I mean, they've got a wide array of sounds. of the pool before pumping her tail and launch. Again, I was there 12 years. I mean, this is a national stage. I've had my name mentioned in the house of commons. I mean, this is a national stage.

1:20:22 MP, the local MP, He bashes Marineland. Those usually are okay Yeah okay We've had a shit load of problems saying like this place is a hole i mean wow what what how far we've come in the last six and a half And here I am again on the fucking JRE. virtual definition of insanity it's not a good move jamie who was it that was on the podcast Was it you?

1:23:12 but no, that is the basis of this project. though they're settled on maybe Nova Scotia. is to save whales. There was no foundation. because they only eat chinook salmon but then there isn't there a another pod that comes through They eat nice seals and stuff. Next thing we know, we saw the activity, you they congregate and it's a big social event. I get to another place for me to speak and, and,

1:26:17 It's like, wait a sec, there's three families But I mean, for the most part, it's verbal. You're going to listen. Why, why don't they start eating mammals? I mean, she is a top, really the global spectrum of wild orcas, uh, very, very good work with her. If you were to invite her on the podcast, she would get on the next flight from New Zealand and come here.

1:28:04 They're amazing animals. we'd be like, wow, that's cool. Like it has no business being in the ocean with it. I mean, you're literally up against an army It could be a brutal thing. And it was actually on the land just with a little bit of water. It's so big. Dude, this is a crazy story. They're trying to figure this thing out. of the orca. Never again.

1:31:06 Like you can't imagine he's, no, Kanye West of animal training. Oh, there you go? The Kanye West of what? Kanye West of animal training. Wow, bro. Yeah. it. changed the landscape of this you're damn right. Senator, who's really taken this thing, it's her baby, relationships and your work and it comes to this you're right when it comes to these marine animals that are super intelligent

1:34:17 Walrus Whisperer on Twitter. but I'm you're a bad