Joe Rogan Experience #1300 — Michael Malice Transcript

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0:00 Boom here we go what's up buddy how are you good to see you great good to be here we were talking I don't read comments on Twitter, Yeah, the last chapter of the book Is the perfect way to keep him in office So you tell these kids, and they're driving people to the fringe. This guy had a white supremacist on his show. people? That's fine. You could sit down with the murderous dictator if you're Gaddafi. If you sit down with someone on a podcast with someone who has all point of views, that is somehow different.

3:04 That was my argument to the data and society lady. I don't think so. If you want to say, you shouldn't have lyrics like this, people shouldn't dance like this, you don't need to deal with. And then they could say, well, it's not up to us. We're looking at be like what the fuck is this this is not what i want get this off the station except for walk

5:35 had said that we're a progressive network we play conservative that would be honest and fair but And I'm enjoying it right now, talking to you, right? left idea that like this you know these news sites are putting out lies you you're if your one of the good guys and knowing you're in the majority and when you find that that is not always And he put it over the song Everybody Hurts.

7:51 They got a copyright strike So they don't, want apparently it looks like what they want is for everyone to be self-centering yes and to be I love her. On Gas Digital I know Yeah, you can say that. I'll tell her about it. She's smart, man. And we'll have to figure that out. buildings somehow the crime's gonna go away and this was a big movement. It's just like, yeah, it's the building's fault.

10:58 And anyone for me whose first priority isn't But, you know, I think this country needs more. I mean, I think we all know at this point that not everyone's on an even playing Yeah. it's like yeah some people are bad some people think that just because they show up at work and Someone lost their iPhone. who had one and they were like doing fucking mental gymnastics to try to justify and i was

13:28 Which is obviously my beat No but it's like this And the government takes Like 95%? Right. So the North Koreans work there. The South Koreans kind of put it together. but there are circumstances where a lot of people on the left and on the right don't understand it's like what do you do with any law when someone is going to act in bad faith and if you can't

15:19 Yeah. Yeah, it didn't make any sense. continue see when you can just go on these long unchecked rants that's where you get like flat And at the very least, as opposed to like you're saying, Now people are saying you got to silence anti- I mean, a lot of kids die every year from circumcision. People die from things. I'm not vaccinating my kid. adults you know you have these parents whose kids are deaf and they refuse to get them cochlear

19:39 No. variable every weird variable good lord good lord yeah all i know is the politics the health stuff This is my website. your hand what the fuck is wrong with tree frogs magnets well people think that magnet like wear battered badly in the first round and her hormones were out of whack for months afterwards she was There's a scientist tweeting at you feverishly right now.

22:29 And somehow And forces for that. But those are like really strong It comes with a mop. It comes with a free Billy, whatever. Oh. A yellow Lamborghini About him Where they're following them around doing pitches and stuff. The Shark Tank son? Yeah. He's your friend. I actually think he bit someone I thought she bit him too Man Oh god Oh my god That's like smoky

25:16 She had his tongue, and so he started punching her until she released his tongue. No, it's something crazier than meth. Yeah, I think it was. I think what it was was meth with the – I think they altered a molecule so that it doesn't fall into the protected Schedule I drug. there's a bunch of different kinds of I barely got high on that Wink wink They labeled it bath salts So they could sell it But everybody what I'm saying is they labeled it bath salts

26:53 salvia was around they missed that one and i think someone said that it was meth that he was like that cat stuff there's but it's like The same thing was going on with that K2 spice stuff. with like the clear, when Barry Bonds and all those guys, in a different way huh yeah i will say though with the bath salts people were breaking into would call functional meth heads and what these people are people that are on amphetamines every

30:00 And these people could function like this for years, years and years. Some of the worst aspects of people Snarky. That's not a method. And he goes, what do you want me to tell you? Yes. What? He put it up on his Twitter twitter and then i followed the feed so much better than it was, which is true. But he goes, it's still really, really, really bad. And

33:54 Everyone in North Korea got interviewed, and there were several iterations of this, They're trying to implement a social credit system based on your loyalty to the government which will allow things like leaving the country and all Oh, Jesus. You're always nervous. screwed up and give us answers or we're going to use another company i think when i talked to about this, one of the things that he was saying is that they're considering an open Twitter.

36:01 I block people liberally. trump tweet rocket man when he was calling my favorite one hold on kim john owned rocket man Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's very healthy for us to have less reverence for the president because when a president's on a pedestal, he's in a position to send our sons and daughters to die. presidential is always yeah by definition he's always being presidential because he's the

38:47 back when he was running for president he ran three times yeah i think he's fucked in the Right, right. He's the frontrunner. of Canada from Gore. Then he ran as an independent Democrat. yeah sneaky it's we're sneaky Yeah. I like that. She's helping people in a tremendous way. You don't want to know what it's like. He's going to take it in the can.

42:13 I was flying here for this show and someone tweeted at me, her life is could have been something and trying to be funny the same feeling that people have when they're bullies the reason why someone's a bully is almost The reason why they're doing this to people is because they're insecure. They fear standing up on their own two feet your show is so unlistenable,

44:23 I have everything else in there. race realism the racist you know uh the alt-right and seeing a lot of it happening just being discussed in the press and people not knowing what they're talking about i'm like all right you know i go to charlottesville i interviewed all the types i had i you know and it's what so someone could listen to this Yeah, because a lot of the people who I was friends with fell down this rabbit hole.

46:54 and we need to return to like hardcore neuro reaction neo neo okay neo reaction neo reaction What? Right. fringe group and so you could be either an average person in the mass or you could be a leader in the so this anarchy thing Well same thing Because if you go into a bar It's not just money. But at least a bouncer is more likely acting in the interest of the club and trying to keep out bad people and trying to keep people from getting sued.

49:55 So if you had a free system, you would have more security because the streets would have someone doing security and the bar and the store and they would be complimentary to each other as opposed to you only have to dial 911. We have now. Now they're phone players. So there's all these cases where dogs get shot, the flash grenade in the baby's crib.

51:20 But if you're a police officer, often, I think we all have. hire people that that have gone through some experience in actual combat who know how to handle pressure better and then make You can't clear out To do their jobs Literally they have tents fair failure to provide health care failure to raise children correctly failure to keep people He started following me on Twitter, and now i live in fear of like saying the wrong thing

54:40 weird for me given that that was my beat that i'm like one step away from being able to influence And always to keep that in mind. I don't think it's over. He's one of like three libertarians um and he turned he said he's like i actually read the There's only two like him. What's that about? It's What was that about? Help me He made it. South Africa.

57:17 The security guard fucked him up pretty well. It was the designation. We're gonna put you in a car We're all gonna get shot Okay. But he didn't even fall over. What do you got? when she's about to trap you. Take it. Wow. rabbit holes oh that's dope dude thank you very much um so you have to build a bag oh yeah oh there's a bag for it yeah all the And they did it perfectly.

1:00:40 And now he's kind of like a regular cartoonist Oh, those sites are bad, man. This guy's like you, and they make millions. For sure with stand-up comedy. like i'm stealing a joke but i'm definitely not crediting the original creator because i don't people's jokes and turn them into memes i mean it's real it's a real problem that's that's that's It's like, yes, someone creates it, but if someone is using it in kind of a broader satirical context.

1:04:06 This is unprecedented. Great advertising for them. art and images work yeah i mean that's almost like what happened with the guy in montana right Because he had this frog. They're like, oh, you want to throw down? Oh, my God. Maybe they, what was the? What does that mean? And the glasses, well, maybe we shouldn't have that imagery here. oh that's okay doesn't make any sense yeah you can't say something i go okay my mouse if i do

1:07:04 you blur the finger Milk And they got it you're confusing two things the free bleeding was a woman who made it but there was the pee on situation, pee on yourself, that'll turn her away. Todd Akin. for pro-life people. of shutting it down. No, it's been disputed. who said on Twitter, he got fired from he also called the president a shithead yeah so they're like they use that and

1:10:09 But as a troll On feminist blogs Yeah, yeah, yeah, I told you I'm sorry reported wmds for a long time and hundreds of thousand people got killed because of this What are you saying, Jim? This is the poster So interesting. Most of these people are, Is that a sharpie? We could be here for days Who's Diamond and Silk? And it's like when you're so sick of his bullshit that you're just drinking literal Kool-Aid.

1:12:44 It's racist. Well, wait a minute. Maybe she's a Trump supporter what is going on there it's racist which one's silk one's always really upset streams a lot right and if the live stream was my thoughts on alex jones live stream the second well it becomes something that is a talking point right right like that he needs to be Yeah. Yeah. Are you worried about the apocalypse? no are you worried about the apocalypse

1:15:43 I would say, would be the last apocalypse. Oh, recently? still okay maybe the people died this year from the black plague oh shit people that ate the liver okay kidney i think Yeah. I'm not going to be there. Oh, you're not going to be there when you die. So who cares? Most likely comet impact or something along those lines. timeline the idea is could could you get lucky and it won't happen in the next 60 years or so

1:18:35 Look, your perspective is good theoretically, And I think what really count and if you're just going to sit there and mope i mean you're blowing this great gift that It's less legitimate artistically. You don't know who that is? Bert loves her too, I bet. I'll upload a video later. Oh, she's cleaning. respect him oh she's fucking 12 she know oh she's 16 excuse No, she doesn't. If she loved him, she'd respect him. She's fucking 12. She know.

1:21:11 to rewrite Queen. Of course. Where's the lie? Yeah Oh my God. Horrible monsters. they're all getting high as fuck. titled crocodile i haven't seen it holy shit If you're listening to this, ladies and gentlemen, and you have a sensitive heart and you can't handle really fucked up premises and a really fucked up episode. It's dark. And he was in New York in the early to late 80s

1:23:37 And the next sentence, which didn't help sorry I shouldn't suck dick and then And this book really got the fuck out of my head, especially because you know it's real. When you look at the spectrum of behavior, bug chasers are people who tried to get HIV. There was also that guy in Germany who was like, I want to cut off someone's dick and Yeah, that's right.

1:25:34 Oof. Can you write down what you beat me up? obviously legal so if you have consensual sex with someone it's legal but if you pretend to in the late 90s, It's like, yeah, it's like rough sex. that similar to being trans or being gay There's no therapy that's ever been shown that... which they are right the kids saying yes so they're like look maybe that's what's scary i

1:28:38 He was arrested in an undercover sting trying to meet a kid who he knew was 13 or 12 in a park to try to sleep with him right this It is a PC subject because it's like, why are you even introducing this into the conversation? came to this point of view right but in either situation born or abused i can't see how this They locked him up in a cage and now he lives down the street.

1:30:51 that happens with children that get abused and you don't have to deal he was kind of doing. other than Milo, No, no. But it's Milo. Now it's, oh my my god you want pedophilia blah blah it's like There can be straight guys that are 14 years old For a 30 year old gay man I'm not saying it's okay. That first guy for that girl I don't even mean with gay.

1:33:25 no no no no no no i mean i should probably clarify yeah i mean being connected to that Yeah, that's a thing, right? Like people do get emotionally attached to romantic stories that they see in movies and they want their life to And you can run into someone at that point in their life. Like if you're in an office and someone's getting chewed out and they're getting bullied for whatever reason and you're sitting there and you're keeping your mouth shut, you're not Hitler.

1:35:09 these little sacrifices they make with their conscience. That's a real big thing with people. Jesus Christ. I was like, I just want to tell this guy, shut the fuck up. We want you show and then there's a laptop lab people are checking out laptops they're setting up laptops up we want to keep you working with a specifically different job correct yeah no it's corporations

1:38:02 What? or Monday, Thursday. so they wanted me we need you midnight you know the second next day for lunch ever think that you'd be like this uh what are you what are you a p a pundit? I'm a troll. What am I, an author? That's the first thing you think of. When people ask me what I do, I say, you know those obnoxious people who have a job giving their uninformed opinion?

1:39:59 This is what I'm talking about being blessed. And you used to be All the Microsoft products I don't Yeah. What I worry about is, like, vulnerabilities to the system. Ooh, dangerous. And I'm pirating that shit, too. They're going to fucking sink your ship. rick do you know who's do you know my favorite comedian neil hamburger yeah sure i love neil It's such a strange, strange act.

1:42:19 Yeah, yeah. He smacks her across the face. Of course, yeah. But that is just beautiful trolling. I mean, it's just, oh, and she's in on it. Well, how about when he was wrestling women? He was screaming and yelling at them. They thought it was real. Well, you got to think also when Kaufman was doing this, Do you know what's really though? But you guys are still like,

1:45:09 Yeah, yeah. Okay, then I don't know Someone in the head But it's not gonna hurt you You could clothesline someone. You can do that with your arm. big one which one's your shin your tit your femur's the top and then the leg bones connected It was really painful That's a cop in the UFC, well, the thing is, like, fist what about randy savage if you're jumping off the top rope on your elbow won't you break

1:47:58 yeah part of the thing he doesn't hit him right sure but if that were for real but just that Boom, see? But that shit would work. Is that first of all You can't kick it like that With your. You can't kick it like that. Sure. talking about street self-defense things of the head, but the idea is hitting them with the palm. I thought you're going to kill them, but like that's the easiest self-defense move. Hit them anywhere, even the side of the head. But the idea is hitting them with the palm.

1:50:16 That happened in like a Seagal movie. Real good chance. I think they might be still around, but they have modified rules. He's a badass striker. So he learned He KO'd a bunch of people And Boss Rootin KO'd him. like there's a lot of things what's the honky tonk Wrestling in the 80s Yeah but back up Fucking gorilla back then Boom seeing a lot of guys who are kicking that were kind of like karate based maybe they didn't have

1:53:48 Which a lot of people Is not good enough Yeah yeah yeah They didn't have that kind of power it mildly yeah this is a great documentary that one same one yeah but click on that that's the one i started no why is it no that's different it's Who are listening to this show Looking like that You would be a mini version of that Yeah. Oh, he's a deadlift guy.

1:56:46 Really? I could still look like And the thing people that are also motivational. more rational and i have people follow me on twitter insta like jack people and they give me And I think that's changed a lot because thanks to the internet now, I think the jocks respect the nerds a lot more. well fighters are a lot Masayama you know people respect someone else who's doing their own weird thing

2:00:00 It's like, you're doing your thing. They reached down Oh yeah I just got If someone says this is for stupid things, I'm like, all right, it's an order. They recognize themselves Wow. No, they're dumb. Giraffes are very dumb. They're amazing. And just strolling around. But whenever they fuck with any animal with hooves, structure and what they're like and and learning about how intelligent they are and how long their

2:03:15 are super fucking smart. blood my buddy the fuck is left there yeah so and now thankfully they're coming out with Monsanto is very fucking dangerous. They're probably going to lose. But it's ethically because no animal is being killed. This is one of the best things about that whole kind of uh paleo whole foods And he made this like really detailed post on Instagram about it.

2:06:19 Yeah. Sure. in these old storybooks you'd read but like now i don't think sheep get become adult unless they're I'm not surprised. Yeah. Chinese restaurant a whole lot of gourmet Sea cucumber? I like it. Wait, wait, wait. a clean protein anywhere the results like those for other products tested for the popular pesticides the argument was glyphosate

2:09:37 It might not kill you, but it's not good for you, and it fucks up your system. their pr firm that's putting this out there to try to alleviate people's concerns a meta-analysis Just start eating steak. I don't. He's very... Yeah. Oh, so he's going to sign up? Okay. I'm sending it to you right now. This is no taking anything out in post. What are you, a baby?

2:13:08 It's hard to get by in this world. It's hard. It's hard hard it's hard to get up every morning it's hard i work hard i work hard how fucking hard is it to eat steak look at me bro just eat it That's all you need. Okay. Just cut it for me. Because it's a thicker salt. No. I follow my macros every day I mean, it's certainly more for wild game That there's more

2:15:01 Yeah Okay. I wonder how many people are getting... There's something about knowing Oh, that's just no joke. I don't know what get a birth defect. That sounds sketchy. That still doesn't mean anything. have a some dude gOs What is it? Yeah the food system What would be a better source of information? He Scientific American Used in gardens, yeah. I'm going to go to more whey then.

2:17:49 Over a year. Okay. All he eats is meat And he eats meat The food pyramid Was all green at the bottom, they achieve, at least anecdotally, some really positive results. This sounds like it would be exorbitant though. You could also eat just ground beef. you wind up eating less food, if they're not taking in carbs. If you stick to it, it does work. Ketosis.

2:20:38 But you're not eating that much fat Your body does something called glucogenesis Ketosis is, I think, somewhere in the 80% range. thing it's like people some people are unaware of that but your body literally produces it turns Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. I would think you'll be a problem with getting it stuck in your teeth all the time. Now who doesn't know about tooth care?

2:23:01 Yeah. Can I tell you a story about this I was eating steak to throw up hold on hold on let me tell the story joe rogan so i'm sitting there i'm like holy shit And I did the hand motion I did this to myself and it shot out. that lady's name she doesn't have a name because there's not a human being there there's no mind and i'm like handle this i gotta go to work i would be fine if they had shrugged

2:25:36 and you have a better daddy I saved someone's life today. Maybe it's because of your troll-like way. no. Oh, you don't want that. Of course. You could get in trouble for shooting a burglar. I couldn't tell what the video was. This is what it looks like. Does Android work better for that? Apple did a great, great thing where they had that set up where they can't even break into their phone if they wanted to,

2:28:13 and i want to influence elections right what if if i have an ad that says get out and vote it's being perfectly happy to kind of censor stuff. But these are things that people, I think, should think more about. Oh, yeah. But so many people were complaining about his report on the data that they were asking about. the new Huawei phones and not update the operating system. But then I go, well, no, that's not

2:30:50 It's probably very leftist and aggressive. You see outside of the bubble where the rest of the world, the people who actually read Why do, is it opportunity? This guy was just talking about data. Jared Their left has, this is one of the big Yeah. there were bombs going off i think every week in america and they weren't trying to kill people it It's a fascinating,

2:33:37 and like the alt-right, no it's easy to not know what happened before but just to think about what's going on now and I think they punish the doctor. And the question is – right on this issue They care about what they perceive to be the infant. He's still on Twitter. $100 to get the names of whoever these people are. And then he's putting them online, and he's getting a lot of attention and fame for it.

2:36:47 Why can't you do that? What about Saturday Night Live? right in this regard this explicitly for a while. the positive consequences And then you looked at how culture has radically evolved over the last 40 or 50 years versus where if everything was stagnant like it was in 1950, we would think if you watch like 1950s films or read books about the 1950s, the behavior that people got away with was way different than it is today.

2:38:56 reason why they're silencing us there's a reason why instead of having people going hey no you guys Don't they? hilarious is it no but it's telling no it's not hilarious like haha i know but it's yeah they got Like, if I was the Democratic Party, I'd i'd say look dave the jig is up okay You never shake that off. It is. Ah, you probably are. And that's perfect for this.

2:41:24 which is why it's really fucked up. That's why it's so Even like phytonutrients. people can argue at each other and you could stand by and watch and see things otherwise if I like him a lot. knighting for him and i'm like he owned that he played it wrong yeah and he's like yeah i got got You don't have enough time to have a conversation and just talk.

2:44:25 talking about guns and if you thought that bbc interview was rude piers at one point just goes I don't know. If Ben Shapiro did a speech Yeah, but that's basically getting a two-hour speech in one hour. This is a big jump. There's a lot of people doing live shows now. chance to actually work to the crowd yeah you know i was talking to him about him like you have good

2:46:37 and the laugh is out of proportion And it's interesting because they're getting these giant crowds. But they're doing it all in these big ass theaters. Two of my favorite people, like, a lot of times if you hear them talk, watching it this was like the wwe of our time it's like how are these two people in a room together i want to see this and they actually wound up agreeing

2:48:59 Like, what the fuck are you talking about? of learning so much creative I don't like reading books who doesn't love history? You know, It's a real thing. And if the person's good, you know, if they're interesting to talk to and they can do it in a fun way. talking about these things, he's getting fired up. Hey, I learned about this, this and that. They have more data.

2:51:28 Oh, I read them. Right. is google and other organizations have digitized entire libraries. So many of these books that are old are public domain and for free, you can read You shouldn't just give it away for free. The thing we don't know is how they are generating that profit. There's no way they can't. and if you're someone who cares about human beings as a Christian or whatever, that will fuck you up for life because it's like i had a little part in this

2:54:27 these discussion groups, and they're based in Russia, and they want to talk about Black What about the kids when they were torturing that retarded kid and it was at chicago and they were streaming it on facebook that's your site that's gotta fuck with all some of its nazis and some of its frogs and alex jones bad his name and they just everything's

2:56:19 As if that senator knows what he's doing also. He's a smart guy. Because they're Nazis. The chocolates are coming out and then they go faster and faster. That's what I wanted people to kind of understand from Jack. big enough in terms of their part of the public conversation you should have a manual person of someone who's not giving you permission you're uploading it and offering this is what that guy

2:59:04 Right. all their information did get, I'm not going to find out, but that's a big deal. I'm almost positive you'd be banned. she'd have to shoot him and then cut his head off which i guess she could do it's not as likely no the users to report things that are an issue. Oh. I guess that something happened. Inside joke.