Joe Rogan Experience #1301 — Laird Hamilton Transcript

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0:00 And we're live. It's a root, right? Yeah, it's in the ginger family. And is it, why do they call it Olena? Yeah, and gut health, too. But when you're craving something like that, I mean, there's, you know, a bunch of minerals and a bunch of good fats. disguising a bunch of garbage with sugar and then people think oh that's great to eat that makes you know you'd be lucky to get 10 or 10 or 15 minutes out if you come out of a ice tub or you've

3:13 If you go in cold, then you can go for a longer period of time. If hot yoga mimics Than 104 degrees Rough survivable pace you know yeah survival that's a rough machine rough machine i Yeah. So by breathing through your nose, plus you reduce the amount of intake that you have, and that gets you CO2 tolerant. really stem from mouth breathing chronic uh mouth breathing which is scrubbing our co2 and keeping our co2 levels

6:32 more tolerant of higher levels of CO2. And when I got it fixed, it was like the world changed. please if you have a broken nose please get that deviated septum fixed well you know it's surprising Wow. and like i said it's all about the tolerance for co2 it's how much co2 you can handle in your system There within lies the struggle. And he's thinking it's like a luxury.

9:26 I have a theory that the reason why people are hooked to cardio activity is let's go. And I know like, ah, you know, I'm consistent. can't make it the third pretty soon the fourth day the body's like oh this is the new house we're Yeah The first few were really hard But then your body's like well this is what we do we run marathons and then like day three day

11:29 And then fought that day Yeah That's this in our new world that we live in that seems so crazy but probably in the past we were like are breathing for a rep every rep is a breath so every step is and we can do multiple steps in one interesting well i'm always very appreciative of guys like you that are in my age range you're 55 yeah i'm 51 yeah yeah it's like limit you're but you're also

14:30 because I think so many people That's what I'm thinking. And he was – I mean, he did the Ironman 10 times. An animal until the day he died. it has to do with the fact that that uh you know that they've have some examples but they're also He had a broken leg and he'd be on a stationary bike with a crutch on one of the pedals. And he looked at me and he's like, yeah, no, I mean, but how old is he?

17:26 i think you know that i've been exposed to in my life where there's guys that just those are the They're never going, oh, 35, you feel like this. And they just use the age as a disclaimer, like, hey, I'm good. to struggle then they can't be on earth yeah you can't be suffer it's impossible you just you gotta suffer i also think you don't appreciate

20:11 But a lot of people don't recognize that. Yeah, just move. did not have the need for ambient i guarantee it guarantee it. There was no melatonin. and then you just did that, Yeah, well, because he's just ripping up the floor. But no warm-up. I think warm-up is being alive. I think that you've already, the adrenaline's already going and you've got a lot of stuff. to warm up and if you're psyching up and getting your brain ready to do something aggressive i

23:24 dog down dog and that's only after he's laying down and then he just i'm like i mean my dog does down dog you know up dog down dog and that's only after Yeah. But I think because we're not moving as much, because if you're moving all the time, you'd already be warmed up. They just kind of like tied it up or something. really think about how we're slowly deteriorating becoming these gelatinous balls of meat and one

25:47 You don't even like, you seem like a happy guy. They get mad. That's a way out to not have to be accountable. I think that Could cure and to have a doctor try to figure out what that is it's pretty elaborate it's pretty tricky well A feeling of unwellness Or just drink some That's me. That's a little bit. might as well just try to turn it up. know use your your your own feeling uh as as your guide and and you know i know that i if i if

29:16 Yeah. basketball any any sport when you start to overheat you're that's usually when you're dr ronda patrick's uh show and she and it was uh holding uh a one hour uh a one hour straight at somewhere between 170 to 180 whoa so that's another and you if you do that I had my – I have a whole thing about pain, a relationship with pain, and I was doing a thing with – I had a hip replacement.

32:25 and all of a sudden, it's going to slow your healing down. This is just stuff that I hear that I'm feeling. And so, again, from my understanding, and I'm not a doctor, so when I hear that, I go, well, then heat should be the thing you do. Well, the more pain, the more, you know, the old saying, no pain, no gain, right? So if we go with the old, that old, no pain no gain i believe that the pain is associated

34:52 and somebody to tell me that really has a study that's that they know that they've really looked More comfortable that's interesting Comfort. compression and elevation. he should feel really bad. i but i i i'd be interested i've been trying to learn about it like hey can you really tell me The heat expand That tires you down Ice bath heat You know,

36:57 right? so if you could get it down to 15 minutes And I just try, I tried it. suffer with me oh yeah just get some try to try to suck hard try to get somebody else and maybe It's so easy. And we're just, we're. I'm, I mean, I have friends that surf that come and do it. And we've definitely, there's been What's Laird Hamilton doing? I can go to Taco Bell and Burger King and stay up all night and still, you know, rip, you know, or do my thing.

40:21 You're like the winner. stuff a lot online yeah and and uh him and i had a a an instant connection and and but you know Homogenized, pasteurized, yeah. Yeah. Those are good pieces of advice, though. I think that the stress around that stuff is, is crazy. that there's a bump in the wheel and then you're just not gonna i don't truly believe that that

43:15 And I know I've dealt with not having all the spokes good, one time and i pulled him aside he was standing i'd go hey you know you got to take care of this Imagine what they could do And working 17 hours a day Everything's – it's beneficial, this drive that he has. It's a hard fucking business. Fuck, man. But I drove that thing. I mean, we were, because my buddy Wildman and I were into electric stuff.

46:15 All the good stuff. When you drive it You're over there it's like ac versus dc you know normal cars are like ac a little gap between the power Well, like I said, I think you need a person who's as obsessed as Elon Musk is to make something like that. Optimizing him for – because of his – he's so amazing that, okay, let's optimize your amazingness by making you be healthier,

48:27 And it's very difficult to like take that pause and go, okay, am I doing this the right way? How long have you been living in Hawaii? They're like, oh, you're not born here. yeah six months where were you yeah you weren't you didn't come out of your mother here in this And we have a couple terms. And the ocean is the most conductive substance on Earth.

51:04 Yeah. Is that because of It's called The Blue Mind Why do we, you know, and it has an effect on our system. around dolphins and when you're around whales um how, and like, you know, it's interesting today I was in the ocean you just feel some kind of, there's just some – and they've done some studies with dolphins, how they affect kids that have different disabilities and stuff and how it totally helps them.

53:47 Yeah, there's something that attracts you to it. It talks about that and the science behind that Do you think you could ever live in a city? And, you know, it was dangerous for me to be there. And swing off trees and stuff Yeah sitting in the back of the class right i i go to a restaurant i find a chair against the wall you know, I'll take my chances in the ocean.

56:33 He always talks about the energy. Yeah, they own a shop. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of But in our essence, do we belong in these metropolises? Yeah. We all go where everybody wants to go Yeah And he went to a table in Manhattan He goes I was choking to death Yes. Let me help him. the people will tourniquet the guy's leg right right right like if you met if you saw someone

1:00:15 Diffusion. No one does. the camera live with himself how did you just film exactly this guy punched two women exactly We're on our device looking down, and they're right next to us. Accountability. Accountability. Well, I love that about small towns, too. Kauai is my, you know, that's got my heart. They have real city problems. Honolulu is connected to the military because it's got Pearl Harbor and all of that stuff.

1:03:21 do with if you look at most places that cities have been created, it's usually some geographical design, some shape, like a good harbor. and you pulled up onto that island, you'd be like, wow, this place is amazing. think you'd live i'd be another planet you think you'd live in the mountains well i love alaska being in one location all year round and it feels more natural to move according to the seasons

1:06:18 me to just be you know to be back and forth but so you do like six months in each place is that And open your mind. is has has a you know malibu means gateway to the sea and chugash that's a that's an indian word dangerous so many fucking drunk driving accidents and it's windy yeah and you have the ocean so good Well, there's detached people. in town that work in the industry highly successful that want nature they want nature

1:08:49 Like if you're for the good group, you got guys, you know, you go to the store and you got guys that are, you know, that lived in Malibu for their whole life since they were kids. And it was crazy. want to own one of those houses but they're nice to stay in well if you own it you really don't I'll be at the beach all day. Yeah. But I'm up a hill, so I overlook the ocean and I can see.

1:11:15 To be up and let everything fall below, good for the brain. what do you mean well i'll invite you know i would invite you to come and speak for an hour or i'd that's overplayed i think the the ways we can train and how we're And then I have a pool training system i developed which is yeah gabby No, but I'm saying, but if you said, hey, we're going to take these masks and these fins and we're going to swim this coastline where the waves are breaking on the rocks and we're going to go for five miles, I'm in like I but if you said hey go down there and and and and wear some swim goggles where you

1:14:42 but i do with some dumbbells oh okay So carrying a dumbbell and jumping with dumbbells. And then we were, XPT, Dumbbells in the pool. Kyle Kingsbury. Oh, yeah yeah i love that guy yeah the uh well i have some beautiful guys come like i'll give you And then, and then, and then like, for example, and Grant Hill at one point in his career, but I have a friend, Joakim Noah, who's a basketball player.

1:17:01 through thousands of jumps, thousands, which at the end Whoa. So if you're doing a drill where you're jumping, and most of the things we do are leg-driven, swimming is mostly arms. going to come to your house and you're going to have Phelps for three months. A whole nother game now did you invent You run along the bottom. But I wanted to expand that because that's kind of limiting.

1:20:32 to, You know, it's like, okay, the coffee, it has to be able to do it an old person to be able to really be valid to really have legitimacy you know it's like okay the coffee it has to be there has to be things that the kids can can have that creamer old people can have it it's got to be good it can't just be specialized i think the that you know that that's something that's that's i just think that that's the you know what what

1:21:51 Well I Can't get the jacket off 20 exercises that we have how much weight are you using it depends sometimes we're doing we have a when you come out of the water you just let the weights drop and then the water catches them you And then I have a slope so you can choose every depth all the way. then we're going to shift back two feet and have a 10 foot and then another flat area of eight foot

1:24:30 way down into a deep lunge on one leg and press out with dumbbells in your hand on land, but in when you get hurt right start doing that and get strong that way so then you maybe you won't get during my thing so we have a bunch of we have a pretty cool breathing app uh that that But we've had him at a couple of experiences, and I've done some stuff with Wim.

1:26:55 yeah yeah well he's he is his art actually uh is uh tumo is is a is a derivative of tumo, and I'm not sure if you know what tumo is, it's snow, But nose breathing, it's all about nose breathing. And so they have a whole, you know, there's ways to try to increase your movement of your rib cage. You're not using your diaphragm when you have that. But guys are going to hear this and go, good, I'm stay fat i don't need a six-pack well but but no yeah

1:30:29 fact is is that that you see some of the best athletes when you look at certain athletes Because at the end of the day, a lot of it's about oxygen. But when you look at real breath work and how the So by opening the rib cage and creating more room, you know the simplest way and that's why whim says, I don't give a shit how you breathe. Just breathe, motherfucker.

1:32:39 And they'll go, I go, that's a slow run, buddy. and that system is going to develop and get better. Then when you do your assault bike, That's one pattern another stay conscious yeah and that's a big one with martial arts you see in jujitsu with beginners Well, the system, Like, hey, your body intuitively knows this is a dangerous environment. And then pretty soon you don't get that

1:36:13 is when you extend your breath for seven seconds So there's a bunch of stuff to learn about the breath, which is amazing. He's a friend. So critical to get oxygen in these long training sessions. Yeah. anytime you hold the breath, then you get that CO2 level. that's some that's a challenge so you keep an assault bike right next to the pool yeah So, soft sand because of the foot and the articulation of the feet and not shooting,

1:39:32 but I love barefoot and deep stuff. whatever, But, yeah, you go run. get pounded I mean you're and your feet and you want to grind on a hill i mean you don't need running and then you have zero impact it's a but there's a taro a taro patch is a is a rice patty pretty much mud right and so you we grew up Do jump rope. balls of his feet like like and i would i wouldn't, I would call it more like a, I don't even know how

1:43:02 You'd have to ask Mr. Tom Jones. I do. They have a new one that's just a pedal. Like I said, that's why I like the pool. Well, it's been broke six or seven times. Because each time I broke it, I had five or six different breaks. No, I just wore it out. The thing's not even in my brain, And, you know, I mean, I've had ACL. Don't do anything you should do with your real one.

1:46:19 the thing that i would consider if i ever had to do it again is that the atrophy from the initial problem some they had some material that that wore out after like because there's some kind of polyurethane, some kind of- It could be 30. Yeah. To get that stuff out of your organs, you got to do like a full detox cleanse. They can't dose you out and knock you out like that without that stuff lingering.

1:48:31 Yeah. Three knee surgeries, I had ACL on the right leg Not even a thought the breaks in the other in the left ankle and left foot and how many i had and that i was always on out and rebroke it the first time and then uh and then i had broke it other ways it got a little Well, his was just recently. Are below your ankles Half the bones of your entire body

1:51:26 Little ones and little nubs and weird little ankle. It's a little embarrassing if it's a wall, though. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, you don't learn a lot from winning and succeeding. there's salt in there, by the way. If you're – anytime – Oh, you play music? So you're doing single arm jumping. It's called an ammo box. Yeah. where we drop down. grab the other one,

1:55:05 You'd run down, you'd jump up twice, run back, jump up twice. stuff did you write all this down from your own practice from all trial and error like how did you develop this well some of them came from failure so you know you try to do one move and versus your left arm and how strong it is versus the other one how strong one leg is next to the it harder?

1:57:25 stuff down are you doing these workouts yourself and saying okay i really started to fatigue after really not in shape because you can't you can't have a regimented workout routine if you're beautiful let's go to the thing we're going to go down the coast because it's a nice day it's a then i got some uh other friends that are a little bit more professional we have a my friend of mine

2:00:18 there's none left you just blew all 50 gallons right you do extended breath holds with super max lifts do you have in a certain day and how many per week do you have it's real tangible in why is it nighty night you know i don't know i think it has a lot to do with the oxygen at 75 that's 20 degree differentiation you got to keep the If I train that hard in the gym, I'll feel hurt after.

2:03:22 So it actually helps support your, but no, I mean, we're not doing, we're doing other land training so it actually helps support your but just being creative making it fun making it interesting that's the part that really is So 125 miles. And we did that in five days. All of a sudden, the body's like, oh, is this our new house? america it's a bicycle race across america you start in oceanside and in delaware and so you bike across and each guy just goes like 45 45 45 45 and then

2:06:43 thing goes away i'm ready to go i feel good Yeah. It's usually about the person. you go you you know you can you can get 10 massages right and and and and they're all can art it is it's just massage and she just she just is able to understand the tissue, know how, and she's relentless and won't leave it until everything releases. because it works and somebody's threatened by it really i mean isn't that usually the case

2:10:14 you know, but dry needling is, And so when I run into things that are effective, I cherish them because I know that, you know, and the problem is you have a high bar. And no fault to the people. like connecting and where to dig in and and how to release it yeah that's an art that's why i said The girl that helps me is in Hawaii, And they injected them with like a placebo and like saline and Novocaine and all kinds of different things.

2:12:56 This is in the soft tissue. There's always that. It's just the tissue. The combination of those two are i mean that's that's more effective yeah more effective well it's more intense yeah more torture yeah more torture more results but i'm a little bit Yeah. and you should never look at it oh as well jesus like it's harmful harmful to the eyes. Yeah. Yeah.

2:15:55 Yeah. It's kind of like ice. do cryo and then work out yeah well you can do ice and work out too can you and you know yeah i do that all And we'd stand in that position for 10 or 15 minutes The arms are straight out Go on the ice 3 minutes because people go warm up how about do three to five minutes of ice and then go start all your cardio and start to train right now?

2:17:58 Heat up. being an artist and playing with all that stuff i that brings makes that keeps me interested Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well,'re having An open invitation This weekend You know Bye, everybody.