Joe Rogan Experience #1323 — Andy Ngo Transcript

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0:00 Okay. Hello, Andy. From getting hit in the head, you got a brain hemorrhage? let me know that they, that I needed to walk in that direction. and don't understand what happened. did it have a name uh it was something like protect portland so it was organized by that day that they were counter demonstrating against there was a on one side in part one part of downtown the proud boys were holding a flag waving event that was completely uh peaceful

2:59 A men's rights And within this sort of echo chamber of just leftist politics, it's become also a hotbed for far-left militancy. and do it frequently with impunity. in downtown. And both of these were reported. And the answer that i heard that day as i've heard I mean, who's the one who's giving the orders to the police reelection, i do podcasts so my written work has been published in the Wall Street Journal, the National Review, Spectator, New York Post.

7:51 particularly after 2016. We had very violent rioting in downtown. And that was the first time I really became familiar with Antifa, So it starts with the name Antifa, a set of readers who were interested in in what the hell is going on in portland why are there hoaxes and portland earlier this year had this huge panic over serious allegations of There were 15 of them

11:42 were really involved in peddling this hate crime fear in Portland. book and all that so over and over like antifa is very transparent about their calls for people to come to their stuff and to engage in this physical confrontation that they call self-defense and the you know whether their ideology makes sense or not when you put people in masks and then you

14:05 I think a lot of the people that are involved in that really think they are fighting fascism. because that is one of the things that helps these people it's the same thing there's this mob mentality that takes place that's well documented with humans where when you get a and he accused the mayor politicizing Absolutely not true. So this is such an outrageous defamatory claim.

17:28 And people had claimed that he was an awful sexist. and citing all these different studies on why women gravitate towards particular fields encourage women to get into technology. And he devised these strategies to do so, but was wildly was involved in invited him to come. But Anthony found that allies just could not take that. They I said, this is the name of the woman who was knocked out.

19:43 I named her, yes. saying that this is what happens when you support fascism and i was so baffled by this like i read i've been avoiding labels for a while i think um it's interesting that a lot of the coverage on what happened to me always qualified this person deserved it and of course these are the same people who always talk about believe the to let this play itself out this is how people get shot this is how people die when you allow

23:31 But the first, there were more hits to my face and my head. That would be 10, 11 days ago from now. Decided I don't want anybody there to get the impression that I came. use these accusations of not just racist or being Nazi or far right. releasing your address has happened to me your family's address out it it puts this constant at my head and in my face and that blinded me.

27:03 The crowd was chanting that. As soon as I caught my footing, So this happens out of nowhere. up, that it's the extreme of the extremists, right? hitting them it's really disgusting and it's just i mean there was this thing with Vox where Carlos Meza was minimizing the impact of Antifa and kind of joking around about it and making it seem like it's just no big deal.

30:06 Like that old man that was just driving and they're directing traffic and forcing him to obey them. You didn't do anything. And there's this diffusion of responsibility thing that happens when one person hits you and everybody feels like it's okay to hit you. animal instinct aspect to it that is very unique to humans and when you see something like this

32:54 You ain't changing shit with that. All you're going to do is call for more people with masks from the other side. But this is, it's twisted. And I wonder if that played a role in why they were the only center-left broadcast news network i don't think ch or Don actually understand. I'm hoping that like, to to to move to change like this is not just a movement of people masking up and starting

36:00 It's not a bug. militancy is in a in opposition to what they oppose so they they feel like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That's exactly what it is, I think. the idea of the proud boys it was it was literally a joke and it became an actual organization at who are not disavowed who are not there's no one speaking out against them from the left there's no

38:28 This is like role play. people showing up ready for actual combat. but when you have people wearing masks hitting and macing people you've you've you've crossed there's people right now i guarantee you who saw that video who are thinking what i would do if i This is a fucking terrible. It's shocking that in Portland... Correct. those in the upper echelons of governance

42:56 It's great. It's about a dozen It's the people that think you should be able to throw milkshakes at people. That's the real world we live in. them with the chemical spray and then they take turns beating so there's even no opportunity to that and it hasn't yet but this is 10 days ago who knows what's going to happen if there's another in this so who was the men's rights guy it was actually a woman a woman who's a men's rights

47:10 justice for victims of domestic terrorism, But at the same time, I want to make sure I state that what is it, thousands, thousands of people? literal human shields they dress the same so they make it easy for the few violent militants to melt back Actually, in their press releases, you can call them, They are... that are semi-autonomous, other anarchist groups.

50:46 the movement so um i've been asked like do you think the federal authorities should step in my I think it's gotten to that point. However, that's not just what Antifa does. and in his writings he makes it very clear that the quote-unquote self-defense The Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, was photographed a year ago holding up that book, the Antifa book.

54:20 Like we have this word fascism. regimentation of society, and of the economy which came to Let's stop fascism. than just being authoritarian there's all those other components and i need it needs it's important to state that antifa is not At some point, it's going to come back against the moderate left. They don't want police. the world of what it looks like for them to um do state building right so we don't know what it looks like for them to do state building, right? So we don't know what it would actually look like.

59:13 political persuasion or her i don't even know these are all the people who become elected problem blaming proud boys or patriot prayer the right for issues patriot prayer what's that It's interesting to see a city that's gone so far off the rails, Cause it seems like you're obviously a target now. last week, but I'm dealing with some cognitive and neurological issues.

1:02:05 I've continued to receive threats, violent threats, and they've been reported to police They haven't been keeping me informed. Yeah, so moving forward, once I feel well enough and once I'm cleared by the doctors, I don't know. and it seems like they don't have any problem justifying attacking you and assaulting you uh if i was gonna go immigrants and all those things that i support 100 i'm left wing i mean i would be on their side

1:05:04 no no i'm not or the breakdown of democracy no yeah so these are the That's what's important about these discussions. i think they're too busy i don't think they're really investigating this i don't think they're so a lot of people listening and are frustrated and have expressed support are asking well what if you go to Publiuslex, P-U-B-L-I-U-S-L-E-X.com,

1:08:07 What do you think is going on with media that is supporting this attack on you? out about me you know i'm not i'm not they say for example we're not, you know, this is notistan or iraq where the state is weak Yeah. Get a big old fish tank. You know, like, I feel unsafe and all that. Yeah. and maybe you do because you're covering it with boots on the ground?

1:12:19 do you think really understand oppose fascists, come protect Portland. Where are the businesses that are helping them fund some of their causes? like these portland events when you see this kind of chaos do you think that that's a valid concern? left but a lot of people who are normally very pro-police are finding like, what is wrong with the Portland police?

1:15:19 trump supporters when they were leaving a Trump rally were brutally assaulted by mobs of people and then there was a lawsuit that was launched against the city for basically putting citizens in the way of danger the way they were funneled outside of this event led them directly in front of these violent protesters who attacked them you know in those footage that went viral that year.

1:16:35 Well, immediately right now, point but right now i'm very focused on seeing that and putting pressure on the city to arrest And I'm hoping that from that, it goes beyond just being a headline, you what do you think you would say? Well, it seems like more violence has to happen. My pleasure. Smile, too.