Joe Rogan Experience #1327 — Mike Baker Transcript

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0:00 Boom, boom, boom. It's like a little, it's a bit of an amusement park almost now. I'm not going to watch. Everything's good. But we just finished And it's going to be a great show is a good thing a lot of money Filming it around the country That are typically in the shadows I forget what the case was about, but it was something about how the files won't be released

2:31 Other times they don't. The shit that they do, even after being around a while, as I have, it just amazes me. How are we going to do this particular thing? real yeah um it's it's pretty real have you seen some stuff that made you go holy shit yeah they Well, sometimes you know – okay, actually, I was going to say sometimes you want to actually capture them and get their intelligence.

5:25 grab the target and get their intel. They've made great strides on it to the point now where in no light conditions, right, with particular individual because their heart rate yeah this is there was an article that was written Yeah, there it is. Pentagon has a laser that can identify people from a distance by their heartbeat. That's right. useful though, really.

8:24 It's all the data that you can acquire for that warfighter. But anyway, I don't know. It sounded like you understood it. You could give them navigation in their head. bit right and and so you've got to start pushing some of that away. And now what you end up doing is you get the off-site command center relaying some of that information as needed. I don't have a release date.

11:43 Well, I think there's an element of some of it's not what you would refer to as classified. well, they shouldn't be working with the military. And maybe some of that military money is not being used for the best good of the human The drone capability is an example. Like what? you know, and, you know, so what are you doing? used to hover a drone over my house and film.

14:46 Yeah. have a range finder, Yeah. Right. Eugene or something Then that's it Is It's like the old days That's how they do it. If not, to know that? I'm going to find something real quick. You got to go. Jamie, order me one of those immediately on Amazon, please. It's not a smooth segue Fantastic stuff Do you know who Kyle Dunnigan is? Yeah, one of those guys.

19:36 Play this. So pretty soon you will become a baby again The guy's hilarious, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Go to that Caitlyn Jenner one on the far right. and I'm sorry to say it's back. They just say, yum, yum. You don't have time for Kyle Duncan. on tesla you know talked about as if he'd just come out of a shareholder call and now he was They released one.

23:14 up lady yeah you're worth a hundred million dollars and no one knows why you should be But the effort to try to identify doctored videos, particularly when you're talking about elections, campaigns, it's going to be an increasing problem that we're not really discussing that much. a pace that they're getting ahead of that. Going into 2020, starting now, pay attention.

25:29 What I'm saying is you're setting us up. Maybe that's a better way of putting all of this because you're right. Part of the problem and one of the things that Russia does and others who are involved in this whole propaganda effort, one of the things they do want to do is undermine our confidence, obviously, in media. I mean, three or four years ago, this technology was not available for the consumer, but now it is.

27:06 All these things make it easier for whoever's got a smartphone to try to do this. And what are they doing? Right. They're not going to stop doing what they did. that is sort of shading well i don't know about shady but yeah yeah justifiably shady how about just for the sake of being a righteous individual, we're not going to do any of this shit. which is, yeah, you better hope we do it,

30:08 How much money should you spend on counterintelligence? the right way, supposedly. for the right reason. And people I do have a flip phone. Do they give you phones that are, like, hack-proof? some places where you go where they will not let you I would still argue there's Walking into, like a- Oh, okay. But she's an unusual person. I didn't quite understand how you get around that, right?

33:30 I think she saw some shit and they pulled her aside and they said, listen, Omarosa, Yeah, that's a tough one. Trump is an unusual character. and he accepted and so you know he's he's an interesting character he went to eaton he went A buddy of mine sent me this one. Bam. Next thing you know, look at the two of them together. Get the fuck out of here.

35:30 They're done. right? If you're in the Northeast Corridor, Washington, New York, whatever, Boston, you know, we're not leaving. run by a bunch of faceless technocrats living in Brussels who have really zero interest in your oh my God, the UK is going down the toilet fast. That won't happen, but there'll be an upheaval What's the staying in the European Union argument?

38:19 They don't like to talk about that anymore. Yeah, yeah. So it'll be interesting to see what happens. Right I haven't been watching And it's been a while That's a great show. Yeah. Again, not to go back into sort of this whole thing with deep fakes, but it is when people talk about Russia collusion and they talk about we kind of lost our way, right?

42:03 the FSU and the intel services in Russia, they're happy that we didn't do that, right? see like what happens when we spin up this story how How outraged do they get at that story? I care about the fact that their policies, from my perspective, Everybody wants to think, sure, if I care about the environment, yeah, let's get rid of emissions. Let's actually do what your job is.

44:50 It's called the Meat Eater Podcast. They're buying this pot from these illegal places. He's had where it's such a massive piece of property that a small element from a cartel And then eventually, you've got to go in there and bust it up. like the way you do business right give him a job on the ranch you know give him a job found this And it's not a stretch.

48:14 who's trying to come over to America to get a better job But that's not what they're addressing, right? to wait for him to go and then we'll get back to business as usual. And why should we be able to have this opportunity when they can't? when you're talking about The key here is, You know, And it does. border security, right? And enhance your ability to understand who's coming across the border.

52:14 you're always going to have people that are committing crime because they want to try to get by, I mean it's not just based around immigration, but it's more control of your own nation's security and destiny, et cetera. Well, in part, you're right. There's no metrics to say whether it's spent wisely at the end of the day. pushing a rock up a hill. We were all focused on wherever, improving relations in Southeast Asia or elsewhere.

54:41 It is. You wouldn't have to be able to... where it's illegal they do and also it's you know you could basically grow year-round here i was Yeah, I agree. These pharmaceutical companies that are fighting against it as well as these prison guard unions, But the prison guard unions, when you find out that they lobby against the legalization of marijuana, is so insane.

57:06 again, with this current administration, you know, there's been some prison reform issues Yeah. I'm like a crazy grandpa that clips newspaper articles out. Look at this. For podcasting? That's the two that this article talks about why is he smoking pot? What is he doing? Is they're saying Joe and I I think they just want to No they're people in the pot business

59:14 Using that word though That ran for 8 or 9 seasons And it was called In the UK It was called Spage drama show. They ran for eight or nine seasons. They changed it to MI5, which is the name for the domestic security service. Go ahead. Yeah. IFA, I don't believe anything that comes out of their mouths. So I don't know. That would be my take on it. They at one point wrapped up pretty much everybody we had on island and elsewhere.

1:02:35 it was a pretty impressive effort. from what I understand it's a good show You don't have an aunt and uncle named Joe and Mary. Right. The hot bra. Well, I mean, we could- I think she's- I'm forgetting what her name was. Wearing nothing, but that's her. No And she's not even wearing any makeup I like how she walks across when you're mowing the lawn.

1:04:57 So that's their job. It could be anything. So maybe say the guy works at a tech company in it or they're not doing the research or whatever. Will they actually come back and go, yeah, well, you know what? we have a guy who works at Lithium. They hang out with other stay-at-home spouses and create friendships because of kids. I watched about half an hour of the first episode.

1:07:35 From what I understand, it was a good show. I'm in there. I've got some defect that allows me to sit and watch a billiard match. a snooker. That'd be something for looking up. they get really mad when i say that i get all these texts you fucking ignorant no i'm not you're And they put up the little bumper thing so it doesn't go in the gutter, so you're cheating.

1:09:25 If it's up for them Do you let your kids Because I didn't let my kid Push through And he's a bit like Bill Russell's career What are you, like 6'1"? Hang him up by his ankles. But his handles Are extremely good Beat me Right shit that's how i look at it my kids talk shit if they beat me i just go okay go ahead talk your So I let them just fucking slam shins into my thighs.

1:12:16 And, you know, until you actually do, well, you know, they've gotten into some, I was What happened, Jamie? So Muggsy got his nose broke in a contest with the oldest one, Scooter. almost always can fuck up the older brothers. All right? Yeah, as they are. Okay You know why? should pay attention i should i should prepare a prepare a little bit because there's a lot of interest, right, in some of these things that we talk about.

1:14:45 don't do that uh i know you wanted to talk about huawei huawei huawei which i think is a really fascinating subject to me um and a lot of people that are tech inclined because they are at the tip and think about them saying, trying to say with a straight face, or there would be a change in the senior management of the business. conversation and the risk is worth the reward. Right, right. And so, you know, that's their calculation from a U.S. perspective because we are, you know, look, there's two, essentially

1:17:04 And I think because Huawei is such a huge issue for the Chinese, And so far, they've actually said to Google that Google is going to stop using the Android operating system for the Chinese phones, for Huawei's phones at least. You know, they'll be fine infrastructure with Huawei's gear. The way to put this would be imagine a communications network that spans the globe.

1:19:50 our business communications, our military communications, eu military and and and we've got nato concerns and everything so if if there's an element in And so that's why it's a problem for us is because, you know, if we convince Australia Well, it's a concern because it used to be in the old days it was us and the Russians, Soviet Union. And so it goes back to that one of those early questions you asked is how much do we spend on defense?

1:22:49 Even if it's a small amount, you've got to stay ahead. Maybe that is – I don't know if that's the word or not. Now it's the number two cell phone provider in the world past Apple, which is incredible when you consider the fact that they barely have a foothold in the American market. You know, yeah, it's a good question. So it's like a chain and a weak link.

1:25:02 Goodbye. they can use that to bang on him you know and so it's all it all comes down to politics but And a lot of that ability to create in record time comes from theft of intellectual property. and because of the resources that the government's been willing to provide to them, And it's not – look, to be fair, I spent some time on China because it's just – they're the number one state-sponsored perpetrator of theft of intellectual property.

1:27:36 And I've been over there in times, and I've just marveled at how interesting the people It's very, very, very, very, very old, which is something that we don't totally understand. We come across a house that's a hundred years old and someone slaps a historic thing on there and you can't, suddenly you look at this country, it's a couple of hundred years, and that's it. Oh, I know. We come across a house that's 100 years old,

1:28:40 Yeah, probably. And China's not going to blink on this, right? They figured out, you know, Samsung made a huge disastrous mistake with their Galaxy that's a problem right when you get you've got a phone that explodes, Well, what's wrong with it? That's to find out where you live. But then they just changed it. They did use the Leica name, too. I think they use Leica lenses, right?

1:31:36 There's a photographer I follow But that's all I couldn't tell at all. They have some pretty spectacular cameras, though, Jamie. It's like there's no way that that's real. One thing has been proven that Huawei has taken been proven, that Huawei has taken some photographs And it may not be something that they worry about now in terms of access. I mean, again, to your point that, you know, hopefully we're doing the same stuff.

1:34:18 And it's an interesting dynamic. And it's an interesting dynamic that we need to be watching. and then the other side you have the Republicans that say the Mueller report essentially exonerated And so there must be some grander reason why, because clearly we couldn't lose to this guy. divisiveness and discontent. That thing was just, there was nothing.

1:37:58 uh hired consultant used to be with british intelligence not you know not a james bond type And how did it eventually, you know, make its way to this report? And those are the sort of are going to buy it right so russian collusion russian collusion you just keep repeating that and that's going to happen at some point it'll happen but um anyway so but it

1:40:12 Well, maybe they do, right? So it's as simple as that in a way. because we all, You like this? That's a fun narrative. Right. And this is just our neighbor. And that's what you have to worry about. Yeah. And so you work through them to some degree. It doesn't mean you shouldn't still do it. look what happened in previous administration when they they seriously went after cartel members.

1:45:21 So these, you know, these various members were, you know, they were combating each other, and they were going after the public. They just went back to the old ways of doing things. But the violence was just so intense. The public eventually just said, we can't, no. But that seems like a great way to cover the fact that you were selling guns. I mean, if you're really cynical, which a lot of people are.

1:47:28 for a complete goat rope, and unfortunately, How are they even tracking these goddamn guns? Yeah. Fuck, they're coming up on another election, presidential election in mid, I think mid-September. I could, me and Boris Johnson johnson and trump would get together And so they're back again. But, you know, then you're conflicted because you think of all those people that fought and died over there

1:49:47 And it's not going to happen. and establish democracy and suddenly everyone will have more of a respect for individual liberties syria right nobody wants to talk about syria and then and and you know asad you know his butcher And we've got we've got attention deficit disorder. Nobody talks about North Korea anymore. We're all good. and part of that is because our abilities to understand the movement of money, tracking transactions, is better than it used to be.

1:52:50 They actually seized a couple, but they're holding on to one in response to – to withstand and their control over the population is so strong. But it's an example, I think, that deal would include us being able to access their military facilities and for inspections. That's what you want And that Trump had broke it It wasn't wise to keep it. They wanted this.

1:56:14 then with the economy and the condition that it's in currently, Can they close the Strait of Hormuz, you know, where, you know, depending on who you're So do you think this criticism of backing out of the deal that you're hearing from Democrats is basically just a criticism of Trump, just an opportunity to – you tend to think that that's the case And she's done a number of internships.

1:59:29 Because she did an internship in the current administration. And the response was, well, we don't like him either, We should be able to make decisions. The right and the left are all guilty of creating this divisiveness. never going to get to the top of? Yeah. The press has always been biased in one way or another. We've had presidents that owned slaves, bro.

2:03:02 see any solution that anybody has that makes any sense. Alberta. I love Edmonton. Yeah. But, I mean, it's like – What are we doing in Edmonton? UFC. Oh,. Great people. Oh, yeah. I love Edmonton. River Creek Casino. and I have a left wing person on it comes down to Or when people say, well, if you like Trump, you're a racist, right? it's like the arguments just get so confused yeah i, and I don't know where it's – I mean, if you think about who might win,

2:05:47 I like her. And I think the people that are in the primary right now, all those people are going to be there. first Native American, you know, professor. I didn't know that. 23 and me. You get Dutch genes. Yeah, there you go. That's right. I don't like her, but I think the base looks at her and thinks, yeah, she could be a firebrand. You can't look past that the same way you couldn't look past Hillary being a liar.

2:09:33 Yeah. I don't think, you know. They fucking hate him in his own city. Could that person make it? Yes. That's crazy. Like Foreman won the heavyweight title at 46, which was crazy. He's been doing this forever. Yeah. Yeah. Mayweather was in the audience. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that would be fantastic. I mean, now's the. I love it. Mayweather was in the audience.

2:11:57 There was actually even talk of a class action lawsuit against Pacquiao after the fight because people had bet on him. playing hurt right um do you have any obligation no i mean i mean it's interesting well ufc fighters injured as well i mean it's just the nature of the beast if your job is to hurt people and break Come to an event. Nate Diaz is fighting

2:13:55 I'm just praying Come on down, man. from talking about it, but when they give me the go-ahead, you won't be able to get Thank you, man. All right.