Joe Rogan Experience #1330 — Bernie Sanders Transcript

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0:00 And we're live. Hello, Bernie. You shouldn't even call them a debate. You know, I think the DNC is in a difficult position. Kamala Harris, and then Kamala Harris had about 12 seconds to reply to it. It was so ridiculous But it takes us to another issue, and that as a nation, we do a pretty bad job in analyzing and discussing the serious issues facing our country.

2:24 And people used to laugh at Ross Perot because he used to get up there with a chart and all this stuff. What the obligation is, if you are a network, you're going to make that time free and available to candidates. I mean, the internet has revolutionized politics, and in many ways, good ways. I mean, if you had- and you do with it And they don't interrupt

4:20 of the country. Yes, it is. For example, companies and the insurance companies. That's the function. If you go to Canada, and I live 50 miles away is to expand it. Today, eligibility at age 65, I want to take it down to 55, 45, 35, Half per capita. The hurdle is exactly the same thing as in every other aspect of our lives. It's the power of Back in 2016, I got involved here in a little way with an effort on the part of the nurses to control the cost of prescription drugs in California.

8:08 number of Americans who are dealing with diabetes. We bought insulin in Windsor, Ontario for one Medicare is not negotiating, et cetera. Is this something that can really be implemented Harry Truman was talking about it. So if you could start a brand new program and have 19 million people sign up with a technology that is way, way behind where we are today, why can't we over a four-year period simply expand that program?

10:23 This is a reasonable price. We think, wow, there's someone with enormous amounts of money using that money to gain influence on politicians, Now you're taking us into a whole new area. the American society. Over the last 30 years, the top 1% has seen a $21 trillion increase in their wealth. What strategy do we have? It's not any different with the fossil fuel industry or the prison industrial complex.

13:31 Not that they're not providing medication that people need to save their lives. We're tackling cancer. We're tackling diabetes, Alzheimer's. and we don't get the benefit of it in terms of lower prices. and you think about the real changes We deserve dignity. gay rights movement. Think about the environmental. The only way that change takes place is when

16:08 Let's say you become president. What do you do? Every psychologist will tell you that. wanted to go to college. And here's something that is just unbelievable. Kids who have gone to college leaving school with $50,000, $100,000 in debt. Unbelievable. These are issues that we So those are some of the major issues, criminal justice, immigration reform.

18:44 But if he is, we'll put enormous pressure on him to gain control over the Senate. But if he is, if businesses have to pay $15 an hour to people like that, to entry-level people, who have children themselves. oh, they're all kids is not really quite accurate. The cost of housing, California, all over this country, is rising fairly rapidly. So what is the goal of major corporations in America? It's to be deregulated as much as

22:38 So what you have right now, that's what greed is about. Yeah. All right? I want to be able to do more pollution because I don't like all of this money I have to spend I mean, the idea that you get out of college and you're in debt in an insane amount that you might have 10, 20 years where you have to pay it back. I mean, how would you – You graduated high school.

26:27 make it into the middle class are going to need a higher education. That's college or maybe it's So expand that concept through college. It is high. It's it now? I don't know, but it's pretty high. It is high. I'll never forget this. I couldn't believe it. a lot of money, over a 10-year period. We do this through a tax on Wall Street speculation, Correct.

30:14 being done in countries all over the world what about the here here's one of the darkest things bills that they can't pay. But you're right, with student, I talked to this guy in Nevada, They can't buy a car. and you talk to these kids how much debt do you owe um what kind of interest rates you're paying And this is such a horrific situation. It happens again and again. And who can imagine some lunatic walking into a school or a mall or just on a nightclub area and taking out an assault

33:43 But let me tell you what I think. some of what we have to do. First of all, if you want to own a gun in America, we have got to know Number two, right now, there is a background check if you walk into a gun show, rapidly as we saw. And thank God, by the way, when we talk about both Dayton and El Paso, weapons, which is more than the U.S. military has, we have to think about a strong licensing procedure in terms of who owns these assault weapons.

37:06 It's written into our Bill of Rights. And the state of Vermont is one of the most rural states in America. But in the moment that we are living in, So, you know, I wish I can say in the best of all We banned assault weapons, I believe it was for 10 years. think is a real disservice to the American. And for them and for kids all over this country, Now, would that mean forcibly removing these guns from people's homes?

41:20 So that means that manufacturers would not be able to produce or sell those weapons. is this gun store buying so many guns doesn't reflect the population in the area you got to What could be done and what would you have done to analyze this, to find out what the If you were in a place where people were shut down and I'm trying to get counseling, I can't

44:23 That's a medical issue. I worry very much that we are over-medicating kids in schools. Now, on the subject of drugs, marijuana is obviously a big issue in this country, companies doing an ethical job of growing something that any responsible, law-abiding Here is marijuana. to legalize and decriminalize marijuana, a very radical idea. Four years ago, it is spreading all over the country.

47:42 And now you have corporations selling the damn product that people went to jail for. that is being expunged have um the other problem is of course with illegal drugs comes you get this horrible cycle Latino, and Native American. And here's what I think. I think in the wealthiest country We're spending $80 billion is significantly reduced. inside this country i mean there's there's a lot of that how do you how do you curb that

51:35 But the heroin is illegal. last three years, something that is ahistorical, never happened before in modern history, and that is our life expectancy is actually going down. Maybe you can't afford health care. to pay them a living wage. That means we have to rebuild rural America. in the history of the world we can afford So what you're saying essentially is that if we can do something to mitigate despair,

54:32 Now, when we're talking about impoverished communities and chronically, when you're talking about cities like Baltimore or parts of Chicago and Detroit that have just been in a terrible state of despair for long periods of time. you're right. When we talk about what it means to live in a great society, a great nation, a great nation when we have massive levels of income and wealth inequality, when 87 million people can't afford to go to a doctor today. So to answer your question,

57:09 that has been the loss of millions of good paying jobs and the complete destruction of communities I think it will. We're talking about so many deeply important issues and all of them that And you certainly don't do it by tweeting every other day. transforming our energy system and creating the kind of jobs that we need? How do we revitalize My administration, unlike Trump's, is not going to be filled with billionaires who's basically very often greedy

1:00:19 Well, first of all, we have to have a president who, unlike Trump, believes in science, and I do. and around the world. The guy out on the oil rig today simply wants to feed his family, and the coal which is now carbon emissions, is destroying the planet. And we can create just an incredible number of jobs just retrofitting The world right now is spending a trillion and a half dollars on weapons of destruction designed to kill each other. And maybe, just maybe, if we had a kind of leader,

1:03:54 Well, and the answer is, Joe, This is a planet under siege. You know, I don't want to become a science fiction. a war in the west in Europe with Hitler. You know what it is? It is climate change. You know, Joe, when I'm thinking back, and I don't know if all of you listeners can remember this because I'm older than most, I am not the scientist. This is not my idea. I listen to the scientists. The debate is long

1:06:59 One last question. Thank you, sir.