Joe Rogan Experience #1337 — Dan Crenshaw Transcript

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0:00 Try it in there. He's really trying to outdo everybody else's coin. Test different ingredients. Well, thanks for being here, man. Yeah. this righteous indignation kind of reaction. We watched it. were we were right statement which was listen like it's offensive doesn't mean I'm offended. that part was funny now it drew a lot of questions he called And, you know, after having gone on the show and seeing how they do things and how carefully scripted it actually is, it's unclear to me, and it always will be, and nobody will ever come out with the actual truth on this, on how that mistake got made. I think probably, Pete, Dave, if I'm just giving him total benefit of the doubt, and also after having met him and just having a general rule that we should try to give some people some space and assume that they're not the evil people that we might assume they are.

4:28 And just to appear somewhat fair, we'll make fun of one Democrat. Yeah. is because they think it's going to work. the writers go try it out they they see how it goes they change some things they'll do it in front of an audience seems it's so toxic right now that when you can find people that are reasonable and intelligent a lot. Why are podcasts so popular? They're popular because people want to hear a little

7:44 very quick sound bites on television it's always in these very quick We make small talk in the elevator. What do you guys disagree on? Why don't we bring the boys back home? And the answer is this is not a conventional war. So, you know, that's a fair disagreement. araba from invasion from saddam hussein that's his homeland and yet he hated us and when we left

10:41 And it's the prime example of why this is a long-term fight. and it's because we actually took the fight to them. exactly why, right? our actions. I'm not so sure that we should always assume that it's our fault. I think that's a world. Well, opinions in these countries are not, are not homogenous, right? They're, they're, particularly pull out of the middle east afghanistan and all the bases that we have over

14:15 So I don't think it's quite right to paint it as some kind of imperialistic occupation. Let's stop spending this money. enhancing their capabilities. So that's part of what we're doing. And the other part is just It's a reaction to the Iraq War and some of the mistakes we made there. when they sign up You just have to go searching for it or you have to

17:36 You don't have the experiences yet. to remove yourself from that. Maybe I'll look into it before I start posting on social media They won. know something when you don't it's a terrible way to go about your life yeah i mean that's a very good point cheering like what are we doing we don't we're not keeping score yeah this is bananas you're gonna Yeah, we need to hear those things over and over again. Sometimes you forget them,

21:39 a bunch you get your ass kicked all the time and it teaches you humility it teaches you humility safe space well we're just gonna make a whole island full of pussies and we're in danger deep trauma um uh end up better for it as long as they're telling themselves the right stories. But that's the point, right? that we go to become a SEAL. Yeah. what i'm talking about but uh is g.i.j is not a realistic movie it's one of the least realistic

25:10 and you're still going to go through procedures in a very specific way. What is a traumatic experience? They're basically the kind of boats you use in river rafting. uh your bone structure can still handle the just immense amount of punishment that it's taking sure i i frankly the command was getting impatient they're like we're not gonna let you heal anymore

27:42 There was something bad, badly wrong there. If you're just hurt, That's such an alien thought. no don't drive me crazy i i don't mind that somebody's trying to do that i i say that we You're not going to make it. after the primary on march 6th they just didn't now you could argue that that was probably yourself and that's, and, and and nobody nobody can really judge that for you

30:35 you take 30 of it and you put it towards this and another 20 and you put it towards that well guess because there's a fucking animal out there. Yeah. It's fucking very annoying when you wake up at 8. And that guy's fuel for fucking millions of people in when I was on his podcast a while back it's fine. in the teams. you know, He broke a bone in his neck.

33:41 things off yeah that's what he's built for it's exactly right but people and you're putting them together but they're not really coming from a real place. I think it's so critical when you're talking about sending people overseas And I do – I think there's a common misunderstanding that our troops don't want to be there, that our troops are being victimized by our bad political decisions.

36:02 It'd be interesting to have you guys sit down and talk about it. Somewhere around 2016 when Trump won, everybody went haywire. people do talk to each other quite a bit. not everybody. I mean, And stick to your talking points because there's just just, there was, for a long time, And this is why – now, again, is it worth it for me? Yes, I think it is because I'd still rather have that open conversation.

38:26 There's a lot of people like that. that was good. People get fucking bored. into this a little bit more of an open and honest these decisions like what what's the what's the thought process behind these decisions right you On every big bill that we're voting on. And it didn't exist before. and the only reason why they're going to talk to those people is because they think those people would be viable

41:01 It is. Yeah. Why encourage that? It's not through cuteness and adorable memes. And so there's an incentive there. You know, do you really want to be that person? practices and david uh packman came on here and argued that and actually makes a lot of sense that One of the best examples is a woman named Morgan Murphy, Megan Murphy. Trans exclusionary.

45:51 she says. So Twitter asked her OJ Simpson murdered two people. Megan Murphy, she says a man is not a woman. accept this person we've got some chromosomes here But she's saying you're not a woman and you're banning her for life. And it's an example of this intersectional coalition that they've created coming to terms with itself. And, you know, a lot of the feminist groups aligned with us against the Equality Act, because the Equality Act would have put into real practice this, into concrete terms, biological men getting into women's sports.

48:25 supremacist nazis nazis and so you're all and they say you're all connected with that somehow What's going to work is people are going to just – they're going to go to the other side. be able to start our own country i mean that's what it was it yeah exactly and it gets to a Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance, the flag,

50:43 That's why I have something bad happen to me. both I think it's historically inaccurate, are getting involved in politics and comedians and late night shows and it's like okay well now I mean, that's what America really is. you cannot constrain mankind's nature to the extent that progressives would like to. They studied it relentlessly. He gets these ideas from guys like John Locke, who said life, liberty, and property, or those

54:17 51% of the population shouldn't be able to tell the other 49% what to do. work today yeah i mean there's a lot of people that disagree with a lot of the aspects of it Yeah. Because you really are, and when people congregate in population centers, You're saying 51% of the population can tell the other 49% what to do. They wouldn't bother going to the rural areas because you're going to get the most bang for your buck going to just the populated areas.

57:18 You're not going to care if you're accountable to the rural areas like you should be and to the middle of the country like you should be because if you only care about 51% of the vote, you're just going to go to those main population centers and you're only going to talk to them and you're only going to care what they think. And I don't know. Do you think that in any way doing something online and having your ability to register

58:51 for the most part anyway, don't you think? Not saying everybody, I mean, they've clearly tried to influence the way people interact with each other. But that also makes it highly resilient because it's so compartmentalized. I mean, What were those – what was it called? Do you remember that? It might be. And then you should just show your ID when you vote.

1:01:27 just to make it easier for them to do Yeah, I mean, I can make a million things easier, california let's check on that but um it's definitely not the law of the land everywhere And you just show your id positions on things explaining where they stand and why this makes sense and show that you and of what is constitutionally a state's right It doesn't mean we don't have those discussions.

1:04:55 it's it's it's not self it's not self-evident that that's a problem that government's up to opposed to making it as easy as buying something at the grocery store civic education in what form you know, just as an example. and take away all the guns, and they think the guns are the problem. point in our history i mean look at the early 90s it was vastly more murders by gun uh than we have

1:07:33 Tackling all of these things some kind of psychotropic drugs over time and they've gotten to this point and they'll attach What can be done? And two, is it going to actually about 2.66% of all gun deaths okay hammers and knives i think are Yeah, but you're a pretty good fighter. You can't do a goddamn thing about an AR. so easy whoever controls the barrel of any gun controls the gun right people don't quite realize

1:11:21 and they said hey dan cranshaw what can you do to solve this mass gun violence? There's a lot of statistics out there. Yeah, it might be more. And it's become this sort of copycat crime that has occurred over time. and behavioral threat assessment training and data analytical tools to identify these threats threatening behavior and then arrest that person uh but it depends on criminal law within that

1:14:22 think the conversation has to happen at the state level because every state that seems incredibly disturbing to me. And we're not doing anything to prevent these things from happening. If I'm going to commit a terrible act, of course you're going to go to the place where you know nobody is carrying. i just don't like people who like guns that's we have to admit that's true well they

1:16:39 and defending the lives of their loved ones. far more likely than in the United States, That would be intellectually dishonest. I know, but I'm stunned. Almost no crime. concentrated you can you can so as we look to solve this problem like we do have to really all started with that and that's interesting we should look at that and like what is driving

1:19:54 Blame somebody else. or whether it's whatever they're on I mean, I think it's in the high- You didn't know about that? engineering fixes all that in the future but you know this is what you're dealing with a lot of And then, again, going back to the victim of the conversation, maybe they were dealt a bad hand, but they also tell themselves the wrong story about why that is and who's to blame.

1:22:28 say, no, no, no. Why are you talking about psychotropic probably should have some understanding of who you are before we give you a gun. You know, if you're on psychotropic drugs, should you be barred from having weapons? I think dishonorable discharge from the military, things like that. a weapon? That's what I've read. from, is there something, Jamie?

1:24:46 So if you're imprisoned, not just dishonorable discharge. I mean, with all the brightest minds We should try. Like, this is how we're going to reduce gun violence. you're trying to enjoy yourself when you're on vacation you're checking all these ancient Again, it won't solve everything, but it mitigates something. Oil, he was a petroleum engineer. It's not bad.

1:28:24 Right, right, right. that's i i have not that has not been my experience that what hasn't it has not been That's just not true. I'll ask you, what industry are you in? same as a pack it's basically the same it's only five thousand dollars ish yep that's the maximum that can't be bought off like that. And then they'll ask for more regulation. Now, you know, that excessive influence, though, again, it's not something I've seen because there's a lot of competition for influence.

1:32:20 and public support for bills representatives, those representatives don't do you justice and pass bills and enact policies that would help your community and help you, there the but i i think that's too cynical of a way to look at politicians. One, they generally meet with a lobbyist that they already agree with you and they're generally bringing up very minute things that are that you just would never know

1:34:37 Well, how did it happen? makes sense? And then we have to make those decisions based on the overall good, but you're really well, and economists who, and it's very far from self-evident that this would work, So our pharmaceutical companies um they immediately i would argue it's not sustainable though might make you feel good but it's not going to do good

1:37:28 You have to align incentives when you're talking about any policy. They own you. It's meant to animate people. whatever the fuck it is, uh, but it's an obsession with wind and solar, which I have zero emissions in the next 10 years. But it's an It includes free college. safe amount of nuclear energy that's been used in this country versus the amount of times we've had

1:40:25 Maybe we can get you one. So the new green deal is just wind and solar. The theoretical – But not at night. There's an energy density problem with wind and solar. needed for solar panels like there's there's other consequences to this um and it's it's it's not But, hey, we'll make it work. and then they recapture that carbon and they power the facility with it zero emissions

1:43:52 it is why don't they just make Apparently China is in the process of building things like that. of these by a lot of these folks so your take is that what the green new deal is i mean if i can That's what I was getting at, too. Carbon emissions there increased rapidly because of that, you know, all because of our good intentions. The carbon capture technology, I think, is the most promising

1:46:43 on the places that emit the most carbon. That's why it's generally focused on the plants themselves, I think. So something like net power just makes the most sense. done a study on this. If you replaced coal burning plants or the boilers, coal burning boilers in China and India People are lighting their water on fire. How do they make sure they don't drill underground?

1:48:25 but it wasn't related to the fracking, So was the problem the initial implementation of it So, I mean, just people should know. If we're looking to decrease emissions, But what can you do to help them get energy They're not based on emotional reasoning, but they are based on realistic reasoning and connected to the communist government. And that this is, they work hand in hand,

1:51:40 like tiger war that's going on right now that we're seeing play out publicly? he's doing it so like that he's been talking about this for a very long time yes yeah this right there has to be a reason for that okay and the reason is the chinese are bad actors this economic, you know, Cold War with them. And that's nothing new, but it is coming to the

1:54:19 Texas is a good competitive market. throughout the world. That's so crazy. And I think we could do a better job of having that. conservative voices from being silenced on social media and what could be done do you think that Whatever you post on Facebook is not Facebook's fault. I remember that. People are constantly posting nutty things. sue the new york times right if they if they publish something that you don't like okay so

1:57:40 much stronger standards in the sense of clearer standards. Maybe it's a word that you don't allow. Jenner his son called him he hilarious in that uh whoops one of the what was it the uh the hills We want to hear your picks. we were gonna have oj simpson wrap up every episode like mickey rooney you know mickey This was way after the murderer thing. right what's again free speech is a very specifically protected thing.

2:00:22 They've created their own rules as to what is and what is not acceptable. Yeah. And that's the heart of the question. to actually infringe on your free speech. I mean, I'm definitely very vocal about encouraging it. Right. Yeah. i mean it's you take away that name you take away the word nazi and there's far less targets Ben Shapiro's one of them. their perspective becomes intolerable,

2:04:09 And when you're calling the president that, I think you're also there for – and they often call his supporters that too. out without any real comprehension or any real responsibility for the actual definition of it right an actual strategy of suppression because the goal was to take the previously oppressed And I don't know. Fundamentally. And this is under President Obama's presidency.

2:07:47 crenshaw and i think she came at it from a much more academic standpoint i think it's i think orthodox jewish guy wears a yarmulke you're calling him a nazi right the fucking bananas it just We've had scotch this whole time. Well, it's got turmeric. And then there's the argument of, well, the states are having trouble with some things, the banking laws, et cetera, because the federal government still makes it illegal.

2:10:09 young people because there's there's there's very good science that says if you use marijuana a lot Well, not necessarily. normalized it for teenagers because you said well yeah it's 21 but it's legal so there's nothing Let me help you out. You can drink scotch recreationally. You can have a couple of glasses with some friends and to get you and they're going to close down Congress and oh my God, the Chinese are listening to my phone.

2:12:33 And yeah, it makes you paranoid. From a policy level, though, I just look at things differently. Like when I extract myself from the personal situations I've had with pot and I look at it from a policy perspective. What happened? Sorry? states and they're making billions and billions of dollars selling illegal drugs and what's the Yeah, but those are the real dangerous ones.

2:14:49 I think it accentuates many aspects of people that are already lazy. Why not? But, I mean, as far as getting along with people and going out and interacting with human beings. problem yeah because like how do you test for it you know we have a very kind of clear standards into a fucking tree and i go well hey man i just had a couple beers with my friends we had a great

2:17:10 drugs you prop up illegal enterprises it's a guy coming in next next month or next week rather john And I've personally seen people that have struggled that do have an adverse reaction to marijuana and they go off the fucking rails. So, you know, let's start. right away like there's a reason for that things must happen so so i think i think the medical

2:19:44 And I tell people, look, there's a reason, one of the reasons why I enjoy it is I didn't start smoking really until I was 30. It's a good discussion to have. We should. Kids have exorbitant amounts of energy. with boring subjects. I mean, you know, the opioid epidemic is an issue too. Did you ever have a problem getting off of them once you? Oh,. It's devastating. It's absolutely devastating. And I didn't,

2:22:19 where it was coming from. And then you tell your doctor, and they're like, oh yeah, you've got to when that one dealer gets into the system Like, do you just not do it because we're losing all the time? that what could be done to mitigate that other than sawing Florida off and selling it to the Russians? was next door to Then I'd go over to Jamie. documentary and that stuff's been slammed down pretty hard yes ever since and so and the pendulum

2:25:22 oxycontin they're overdosing from illegal forms of it or heroin that is laced with fentanyl uh so like how do you tackle that that. Fentanyl is so small, they can just bring it through trucks, through ports of entry. It's so interesting when you play people clips of obama talking about the importance of securing the your show or on any show um they contributed to it sure but again as a pretty unemotional person

2:27:34 And it's interesting to watch And then they slowly over time move to the sides. So both sides are responsible for that, the word, but when you're saying decriminalize it, when you're saying no infrastructure at all on work good people that just want to do better for their life the real issue is drugs and crime and it's kind of a shocking statistic,

2:30:20 about how many work visas we have a system for that. But what we should be totally opposed to is this idea that just because you made it to walk across the border, that all of a sudden you get to cut to the front of the line. So if a family comes across, or it's usually just a part of a family because what they actually do is they split up. And they just don't.

2:32:16 So it's just utterly unsustainable. There's a giant disparity between North America in terms of like United States of America and Mexico, the economic possibilities, the drug violence. Mexico becomes like Canada. our laws work where we can actually and what will happen is then they'll recycle that kid so border patrol often sees the same kid want to develop the countries closest to us. I'm a co-sponsor on a bill that does just that. It's

2:35:29 And we can feel good about ourselves and pat ourselves on the back and think like we're doing I really appreciate it, and thank you very much for your time, man.