Joe Rogan Experience #1341 — Steven Rinella Transcript

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0:00 What's going on with all the cigars? That's what the youngins call it. Even though that's not, it's not an illicit now. And then it's the thing that I became, I started to proselytize, you know. have one for a mule deer heart have i explained this to you before no well they're interchangeable people might not know what you're talking about well it could be like lamb shank but it's just a

2:38 on it when my kids were born. Right? Whatever Giannis. I think his wife was explaining to me. People don't think about that. you know yeah i have a wine fridge yeah but in the old days you couldn't because you just drank Yeah. Or do you like to keep it big secret? I want to engage you about a subject that we were texting about. I know that you will have, knowing it. I know that you will have,

5:01 What's funny, by my fish shack, And my shack is East Sentinel. So you're not interested in bringing your family? Oh, yeah. Perfect. but uh no i want to get like i just can't i can't i've i i've thought about and thought about it and I'll explain off air. You know the guy, Commander Maurice Vice vidal portman you know who that And so when this man, this missionary showed up on that island and got murdered, like he knew all about the history of this island.

8:15 and measure them yeah so this is a guy he was into that's why i make sure i remember this right can't decide which to go with my new uh my new laird hamilton turmeric coffee or the whiskey Well, you've done it in, what part of South America were you at? Guyana and Bolivia. another village who's jealous of their village for being so prosperous and has locked their

12:05 never laid eyes on a white lip peccary there's a third peccary a chacoan or chacoan uh peccary So they look similar to javelina. no people like people like to think they are but they're not wow oh there When you and Remy went bow hunting them, they run at you. They've got to be tough, right? you know in sonora and elsewhere um people aren't likely to like turn their nose up at

15:30 a snapping turtle doesn't care about anything until it's within six inches of its face and Yeah. It happens. You're like, wow, that's part of the game. Because you kind of view, you sort of, I have this view that, Yeah, did you see that? yellowstone national park uh habituating wildlife since 1877 they do it is weird uh i've only been you know and again man i know like like my brother has this little dog that he just loves, and they're inseparable. If that dog got carried off by a great horned owl,

19:15 some people would look and be like, Joe Farinato, call him. So then we take like a 100-year break and the animals become very accustomed to people. if they wind you they'll bolt oh yeah it's it's it's shocking how it's shocking the degree to his idea is that like people have gotten to where they confuse national parks with amusement parks and they feel that the animals are like on rails you know they're on tracks yeah they just and it's

22:47 and what anything like that and zoos is the worst example right but when we think of animals like An animal is a wolf. It almost has less to do with how they're raised and more to do with their ancestors. Everybody who meets him, he drops to his back and he wants you to rub his belly. when they say they love animals they don't even fucking know any they don't even know what they

24:51 you're in bozeman you can drive an hour from your house and then you're around bears and deer and It's like 150 pounds. I'll send it to you but this uh you know that's that's super rare i mean that's a real wild animal it's super super rare that that anybody would have any kind of experience with I just sent it to you and it was comparing rural people's attitude and knowledge of wildlife kids

27:41 points and also there's a slight tendency i got to look at this more Well, animals would be like a giraffe and hippopotamus and the things that Disney tells me about. see that better there's a lot of them out here that have collars we got a photo that we just had that's wearing a collar and i'm with you i'm with you 100 i don't want to shoot a deer that's

29:51 But there's a really funny thing. social science because long ago like we used to not understand the you had no way to put all the pieces together. or the upper Midwest, anywhere, tend to end up here at this date and they're down in you know whatever they're down in texas all of dakota who have a lot of bands on their lanyards from banded birds they've shot and you'd be like

33:18 and we would call one of these dudes and have him explain in greater detail. I could take it where I was standing. where i put important stuff to me but imagine if you had a box of deer collars dude there's no way animal and once it has a collar it's like someone it's it's all sloppy seconds man yeah well isn't But their assumption is that like, oh, I better go check it out.

36:16 it makes you feel a little bit bad for them right they're they're not tuned in like a mule deer is Yeah. Zero. And so like. the arrow coming 15 yards away from him and he's like he's out of there it's crazy it's like they They had been hunted very heavily. Maui has a real eradication sort of program underway. the big island somebody had put them on the big island somebody had taken them from one of the

40:03 I mean, they have like surprising shit. a source of food they were just hungry you know poor um but uh anyways in hawaii right right yeah and he was like and he was kind of pissed about this this attitude towards because native and it causes like a ton of tension where it creates a weird situation for people in in Well, you know they did that off the coast. I don't mean like that.

43:32 Just helicopters and just eradicated all of them. And just keep wandering off. dude i was just i was there not long ago it used to be filled with elk and deer and people had sort of set it up santa rosa island elk Which is a here's a weird one together like you what are you doing with a shark you used to be able to buy mako shark in a I just flew into wherever the hell I flew into and got a car and stupidly took a cab to –

46:04 People were like, hold on, what? And traditionally, it had been like a contest to get the biggest shark, and they would bet money on it. perception standpoint would be that there was a category for just biggest shark and there's a I don't want to come back empty. a guy there's a writer i love and he does all these fisheries guidebooks named vick donnelly

49:09 like salmon shark have a very good reputation and makos have a good reputation and threshers right well sort of the shark fisherman character and jaws is based on this like very real dude holy shit, I want to go kill a big monster. where you'd want to go out and catch a big shark and hang it up and then throw it in a dumpster Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a great movie.

52:36 he done besides that fucking uh world tenenbaums oh okay yeah i like that yeah yeah i think his And we were fishing for leopard sharks Getting out leopard shark fins And heads and stuff in the dumpster and i remember there's a gentleman digging through the dumpster and dumping the sharks in the water and kicking the sharks off the deck into the water

54:47 kicking them off, it speaks to something My understanding about one of the things that slowed in U and my understanding about like one of the things that shark parts could be shark fins and you had to keep the rest it wasn't worth it to fill your Yeah, I don't think I'd ever traveled overseas in the 1990s. go if they flew dead nuts over central america did you go overseas it seems like it's kind of

57:14 Oh, really? I'm not traveling for fun. It took a while for me to sort of adjust my view on that. having this conversation about that we were saying that um he feels like he's just working too much narrative over and over and over again whereas if you can figure out a way to go to Thailand or something like that, house to take my heart rate and do a bunch of I don't know health tests anyways I'm laying on my

59:40 He goes, oh, I can see that. but those extra hours aren't as productive anyways. your, Yeah. I get good sleep. said it's like god damn i want meat like all the time she's doing squats and shit she's got this hard that fucking versa climbers but that's a bitch man you ever do that thing no i haven't in letting people know what i thought about stuff even shit that had no business talking about

1:04:25 and and has a humorous take on it that's a good description yeah you paint a flattering portrait And I'm sitting there and this old man walks past me on his way out of the restaurant and he's got a do not resuscitate bracelet. and it's just killing me to know what that's all about so i grabbed my older boy and we walk out And he goes, because I was having a heart attack.

1:06:36 That he couldn't even see. than have broken ribs. Such an unfortunate perspective It was important to him to expose his kids to weirdos. you're fine yeah you might be like dude you're at a brew pub with your girlfriend and she's going to And what's crazy, you'll have something to say about this because this is kind of in your world a little bit. No, after this.

1:09:03 it's probably this or that. and yana said there is no membrane that separates your brain from your body and i i don't i can't rule out now that um i can't rule out now that i'm like mentally pretty weak because the minute um, Yeah. My eyesight's going bad. that that's not a problem no you had a thing i'm gonna be honest with you you tipped your head up

1:11:35 I mean, I could do it, but I got to do this. janice is into strange stuff like he thinks you can kind of like you you can kind of like uh you'll, He doesn't like to entertain the negativity. He doesn't like to entertain the negativity because he feels that but i'm like but what does it matter if we still hunt you're like, well, look at that. some terrible third world country with you know awful drug cartel violence all around you.

1:14:21 I'm inclined to it. I don't think people Yes You just got to deal with extreme weather. Yes, exactly. I looked at it this morning. And I think that people try there's wind up there man yeah well muskox we were talking about that yesterday musk ox jamie pulled up a thing a before. Yeah. Apparently, they're delicious. Any American, speaking of America, land of of opportunity any american can apply for a permit

1:17:36 you can't say Eskimo, But I think it's created a lot of confusion. to be tough you know that tendon that like if you look at the spine of an animal the the the they would take the tough parts of the muskox and almost like purposefully make it more tough deal where i gave her a bunch i said you can keep half of what i give you like make tamales and give

1:20:59 She thinks it's hilarious that she's eating bear. They've eaten ducks. neutered you know like so many guys are their wives are yelling at them and i'm off doing That's an interesting point. She will not talk to someone or hang out with someone But they all have questions. It's one of my favorite all-time quotes. and then I'm hunting, and then occasionally I go off and I do cage fighting commentary.

1:24:26 surprised me about you but it's something that sounds like asshole ish is how serious you take And as a kid who grew up with sort of a deficit of it, But, but kids, you know, it's like you get one shot at that. and interacting with them. You're setting, you're like creating a string of decades. who grew up with the son oh yeah i got it sometimes i get confused when people talk about

1:27:33 But what he didn't do was take care of his own backyard. joe rogan experience because i stole it from h Hendrix oh really yeah that's funny I was just thinking about that from falling over you know so he stood there on the stage and hendrix was right there playing ACDC logos. then he saw jamie hendrix he was like what the fuck i realized he didn't like what am i doing

1:31:06 remember no yeah i believe your rifle it's out there man the deer's here yeah yeah where did it Yeah. If a guy getting, I don't know what kind of shark it is. That was almost dinner, he says. and puts not only thinks to put its spear It's funny, man. They've almost gotten like they've climbed. Because right now people don't consider possums. I was talking to my kids last night about racism in the insect world.

1:34:43 Same size. Same prospect of danger. Yeah. yeah we uh the racism the species or whatever is uh you know we used to have a rat Jamie's one of the better internet thing finders That's a muscular cat. Yeah, he's rippled. Corey Jacobson? I love that guy. Never met him. But kind of his business, it's kind of – He makes elk calls. Yeah yeah he makes a wide variety

1:37:34 Not that we have a monopoly on it, but we have a lot of it. Like, I don't know. and what was sacrificed is community. but they're not nice it's like i get it you had to figure out how to be good at what you did and you can't you can't you have to see the the trees you got to see everything you got to see the whole this is like a tribe of you like yeah a community and it's very important. I respect that. I think that's huge.

1:40:19 they were bad but you just referred to like times you've had to like just sort of protect They keep that influence around because of maybe misplaced loyalties. and they burn everything around them because they're only thinking about themselves. Those people that are just like wholly focused on the self especially They got too much abuse and hate and bullying

1:42:43 think you have to be a piece of shit to be successful. That price being other people. I mean, there's many people that pawn off their problems on other folks, They're supposed to be helping this person because this person has deemed them the person who's most important to them. People would love a story, okay? Like they want to know. Why? You know what I mean

1:46:03 I passed by the house like that has a house in montecito i passed by the house like Yeah. My friend Jay Is a good buddy of mine Yeah. turns out he wasn't really married. But marriage, for marriages no that's it well because you i know why because you grew up in a fucked up sort And it was in our family history for sure. listeners like have this like amazing capacity for retention do but so mo fallon's been on the

1:49:32 He's like, you know, I loved you in nerds. cool guy right because he doesn't take himself too seriously yeah because he could roll with it yeah there he is nerds was did you do pro wrestling or something maybe what's going on there Really? Yeah, you can watch it. Maybe it's not it, but if anybody wanted to poke fun at me, that's always there. Yeah.

1:52:07 people saw that goddamn thing i need to tell you too that was the first conversation when i ever Yeah. and we went hunting in 2012 yeah yeah so it was probably two years old the podcast was two years all these people have been doing it forever and ever and ever. Five? Yes so easy and Has it? about you is like this idea like no shooting collared deer speaks to it it's like there's

1:56:01 over again and they also get because you always do these big groups of people they get a sense of camaraderie too and where people are talking and there's also which is super important to me, Yeah. they feel like um they feel like it's that like people sitting around shooting the shit. but sort of like gently guiding it you know opie and was happy to see you and it was a hang And it was a really loosely structured hang that they put together.

1:59:08 If you imagine that someone, Like, You ever say to yourself, we're talking about doing a podcast soon if i if i have him on i will devour his material for like a week or two beforehand some things that I will, but I won't force those things in. It happens. And there's an art to expressing genuine open-mindedness and genuine curiosity and like just a purity of thought

2:02:45 You know, what is John saying about this and about that? Like Bernie Sanders. That's the caricature. that's encouraging yeah it's very encouraging and are you a bernie sanders man he's a nice guy I don't like people that are so lazy that they just want to take everybody's money know if you're a fucking logger you're gonna give it away certain percentage of your money and you're tired all

2:05:51 I'm instinctively, People might look at where I'm at and think that I'm socially liberal, When I say back my direction because historically That you're kind of without a party the biggest most important it's a yeah deeply on yeah i don't want to get in too hard but yeah you can get into that we don't really like you don't like oh dude we don't really like to hunt I love it

2:08:17 You don't really like hunting Yeah. Yeah. but they never would use it. but at the same time, No, I had this conversation with Dan Crenshaw. come on and this is this idea that like if you're a marijuana smoker that somehow or another you're I don't want people to ever think that I'm slacking. It's all of it. That is the worst feeling in the history of the world.

2:12:08 it doesn't work out well for them well occasionally people are rooting for the heckler if the heckler And sometimes people have good points. Anything can happen. Dude, when I saw saw you last i saw you in seattle and uh My stomach muscles hurt. it was just for you know for this like glorious whatever i don't know 60 minutes 45 minutes But it is funny.

2:15:05 is fucked up he figures out a way I like Kennison But your comedy comes from a position. I can't get it up. And I feel like I brought this up to you before and you seem to not dig it. time was it turkey hunting or was it alaska turkey but i if you remember i proposed you not long ago Our kids like kids. Meat eater. Meat eater. Bourbon coming soon. Elk shank in the house. fishing we'll have a great time it'll be good steve renell ladies and gentlemen meat eater