Joe Rogan Experience #1345 — Steve Aoki Transcript
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0:00 these are pretty cool and we're live hello Steve yeah that's the Kanye one that's the most recent It goes through a lot of different things. so there's so many different shades emotions feelings that are represented in all these different stories have you always And then I shot a documentary for Netflix, and we dropped it. some new ideas for the next you know conception of what I would put out there in book form because it's a different process for me that's quite exciting, just the challenge to do something like this.
3:33 or anyone else that knows Steve Aoki, kids out there young people out there even older people that are trying to figure that their own and put it all in your head? or writing and scribbling in my in my book or or like writing off the side in a notepad or Yeah. you've written a book on yourself but in that time of writing about yourself and reflecting upon your
6:44 Do you write longhand or do you write on a keyboard? It's like I think the hardest part is like picking the right ones at the end of the day. just for the festival so the crowds go crazy and it's less about the emotional message you know what with this record to make everyone go crazy even though essentially electronic dance music is all about I'm trying to like,
9:43 a little story of this so you know i think as you are on the stage all the time, you want to make your skits, have my own label and we we released this artist where the video was cakes exploding in people's faces, super slow motion, high def, really beautiful. And then I was like, you know what? the guys up front was just like why is he walking around the front like am i supposed to like grab
11:15 It's like, know it's just practice makes perfect you know yeah. Yeah, you've thrown 15,000 cakes. Boom! So it just explodes everywhere. cake me with a bullseye okay this is very normal for me to see you know like in some cases there's I've done this consistently for over 12 years. but that seems insane, particularly with all the travel. i was i wasn't down the same road as ray kurzweil doing 250 vitamins a day, but I was probably experimenting with about 50.
14:58 So I have a whole album series called Neon Future. him i went to i went to raise ray kerswell's apartment in in the bay area me too yeah yeah And four, if I'm going to announce it anywhere. Sapiens is my favorite book. Yeah. and like it's like pint after pint I'm like hey man aren't you That is cool. I'm obsessed with the human brain. I mean, I love that stuff.
19:13 Because you're thinking about your own mind or is this just something you've always been fascinated by? Yeah. to help my father and i still have people in my life that i absolutely love that i want to but it's definitely between linear and exponential could meet you know stan lee rest in peace like i got to meet him hang out with him did an interview
22:18 And I talked to him and he was like, I don't know why I'm here with you, but someone told me I should be. No. But that was 2015, 16, I think. is i've did all these interviews with all these different people didn't didn't actually post them No, we didn't get that far, but I would love for you to tell me more about that. Like have an artificial yeah like a way to communicate with his dad. Like actually have his, with all the memories that he has of his father,
25:45 go without any issues and problems and and backfire and and no like black mirror episode What is his name? When you hear the story, because I know this is like what you do. So once that door is open, then time ceases to become linear. Anything Well, I could be wrong. And they decide to do that, or World War III or World War IV. Right. As long as there's a time machine available.
29:59 Traffic's rough this time of day. the air yeah that's magic yeah and but it's we're accustomed to it we adapt very exactly so the idea well they want to see if they can even make that happen. I used to have a bit that I used to do about the Big Bang because they were – everyone has always tried to figure out like what was the universe like before the Big Bang?
31:50 that one day we're going to create a big bang machine. universe starts all over again and if you had a big bang machine and you knew that if you pressed elon musk of course you'd believe it's a simulation people are letting you drill tunnels under la and Be nice to people, they're nice to you. because God has a lot of beauty in people, too. and it's so fun.
34:55 and spread love, making a brain foundation i mean what a fucking great simulation you're in absolutely i think Have you talked to him? He's like, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. Right. you're like oh okay there's levels to this game yeah no he's he's like the top of my orgs for one finding cures for degenerative brain diseases and two just understanding the brain more working with orgs that that want to understand the brain more so that we can expand what our
38:33 It's like, I mean, it's happened like five years ago, people moving wheelchairs with their- whoever's got these research orgs and labs, Do you think they'd let you? They will not let me in. You're going to lose your memory. a lot of the anti-aging stuff and you know i think the struggle that he's going to have is if he's going to make it one that's gonna really push that envelope hard i think he's if there's anyone out there that's
42:13 it's there's so much there's there's science but then there's so much there's social decisions um so it's not a pure information-based company there's ideology behind it there's motivations behind it that you in Congress. once you call someone a Nazi, most, It's too much power for one, distribution of information across the board They're planning on exterminations.
45:41 Fuck. And I think Elon, you know, in many interviews, he said that he thinks that human beings are it is that we're sort of an electronic cocoon that's about to make the butterfly and that we're That's what it does. better and 6g will be better than 5g yeah and if you want to get that mind reading software you That's getting in the way. with Neon Future
48:12 you know, whatever seemingly obviously uh cryogenically freezing the body do that well i'm already signed up jesus so you Like the after death. No, I can't believe this. I don't believe in God or I do believe in God. is that the most horrific thing Essentially, we all want to live indefinitely, I mean, you don't want that kind of thing to happen. on that for the ones that i love that are alive now you know and doing whatever i can to like
53:06 level of cancer detection uh for at least 16 different cancers you know so like it's like And within eight months, her knee stopped being the wrong thing regenerates tissue right so kids with muscle dystrophy kids with uh like where they The umbilical cord cells, they travel the lungs first from what they're- So this is an IV version. Right. um, for my stamina, my energy.
56:16 And then about a year later, I was with Dr. Grossman. and i came back just you know maybe a year ago to do um his version of stem cells because in america is a different It's not the day zero stem cells, but it's still effectively doing its work. No problems at all. but going to Panama right now is the way to go so that's where you went for no I didn't go to
59:03 They spin it in a centrifuge and heat it the procedure, there's no more bulge. Now, most of the time when you have would it doesn't decrease it okay so when the disc is bulging it actually gets it to go back in He was telling me he had shoulder surgery. I was like, I can't believe this is a real thing. need reconstruction and usually what that reconstruction is is either a cadaver graft
1:02:37 and they've had people tear an ACL and then compete in the Olympics four months later. wave of regenerative medicine yeah i'm i'm obsessed with that world so the more you talk about it it's Yeah. Yeah I mean that's where In these like Hardcore punk bands so that's a but in a different world. Yeah. No talking for a whole month. where they're like, okay, you're mine now.
1:05:55 get better at meditation, get better at, you know, twisting the knobs, engineering, But what was the first sound that you made after a month? If you sneeze and it's all like gunky and, you know, it happens sometimes, right? so if you do that if you do that kind of sneeze was that that's how you do it that's how i sneeze but the first sound, you know,
1:08:14 You think it's like gentler on them, but from what I was told, to not whisper. yeah but if you go back to him yeah uh here is the agenda of her today yes they apparently wanted Did you know that? completely makes sense if you lost control of your body right still were attracted to women Wow. Look at him with all his strippers. Who are we to hate? If I was going to be half cyborg, half man, I'd probably just be like,
1:11:38 chop my leg off and give me one of those. you want to help people that need to walk first, right? age yeah it's about the internet right and when we get to that place it's gonna you know it's gonna I don't think that's too far away. because he's got some fucking iron man hand and he's he shook my hand does was scared because i was like don't crush my hand because he's got some fucking iron man hand and he's does it have like the uh does it look like a hand or is it just a metal
1:14:26 Because it's, I mean, I'm sure he would tell you that he's much better off That's what it looks like. It's interesting because we're in this new frontier tech geek yeah because you kind of have to yeah right if you're you create electronic music yes You know, you have to, first of all, make the music. Everything can be made from a laptop. in so you can make it that streamline if you want it to. Now having like this big studios, it's great.
1:18:10 like, Oh yeah. And I want the feeling to feel futuristic. Is that what that is? What made you move to Vegas? You can have all the connections And then LA is a music hub. So I was like, well, just signed a residency in Las Vegas. bought the dream situation house that's another like there's so many perks for me because la i It took time to get there. I kind of talk about that in the book, like the hardships to get there.
1:21:55 And then like, you know, I guess the traditional thing so during that time in la you know i'm kind of digressing here uh you know i lived in this were the biggest artists LMFAO was there every single week this is and then they kate cuddy there and and Kanye West coming through. So you had to be in that room to experience what was happening. Did you film any of that?
1:25:05 the shows and parties uh because back then i would play like five nights a week in la and um and he that we were like creating there keep going with this and then uh you know then i started bringing the right people and i was like but Steve Aoki is going to be Las Vegas. cause it's a really interesting time period for the creation of electronic music.
1:27:46 the hotel room and you're going over the last nine years Well, that's Marshmallow. Right? it was like, okay, he's like finally saying that this is the end of my run. Barry Matalo, you know, like. And it's like, wow, what is happening? Yes. Yeah, you're seated, you know, like you're seated for a reason unless they're just passed out drunk or something.
1:30:32 You know, my good friend Dana White lives there. Like, my heart and, like, you know, I love Los Angeles. Whoa. And I'm like a kid. And I have a Bruce Lee mirror room. A mirror room? Ooh. How weird is that? um just like he did with uh the um the art sale of of the shredded painting yes how amazing was they don't check the details of the piece i mean what can they do meanwhile by the way i'll take
1:35:25 definitely a unique human yeah so let's get back to vegas so you don't feel weird living there move to vegas will you be in my neighborhood and uh they said yes and that was the best money i you know, before even my mom. No! Most of them are in Los Angeles because that's where we kind of broke ground, Yeah. I will send as many pizzaiochis you guys need like
1:38:36 No. No. And literally, you're 13, so I just stay away from drugs. gonna be forever you're clinging on to anything that can get you out drawing of what hell is like How long did it last? thing i ever did i was like oh my god everything is so funny i'm just laughing i'm like in pain you're okay. you know, Like when I closed my eyes, it was very, very vibrant and vivid.
1:42:13 start exploring more about the world. Where'd you go to school? Yeah. It was just kind of like, I was women's studies and sociology when I was in college. the bottom of this, he's trying to, different directions well and then you've become a purveyor of great fun experience these right thousands and thousands of people that are just roaring along to your music.
1:45:28 It goes back to what we're talking about. there's a lot of people doing Molly, right? i'm just judging right i don't know like what I don't, but you know, it's hard. It's like, I'm just judging, right? when their backs are turned to you. If you said that, everyone on drugs, get the fuck out of here. Weed's more like chill, to know, honestly. At least weed. Weed's different, though. Weed's more like chill.
1:47:39 What's the point of the experience I always say, like, I feel like I'm the chef in the kitchen making the food, That's me. So it's always no matter what, even on one weekend, It's really amazing if you stop and think about what a crazy change that is Yeah, when you say it like that, I'm like... Vegas. Transformed. beat up these places and all the music, and it just wasn't his thing thing but he still was in awe i love that guy
1:51:41 And they have to think differently about how they're going to get them to Right. It's natural. days like vegas when it was run by the mob i would love to see what that was like you know And I don't say, oh, the good old days. it's going to be everywhere people go what are going to be everywhere. People would go, what are you talking about? Get this guy out of here, man. There's one guy that did say that, though.
1:53:54 But he did a prediction where whenever he was alive, Yeah, so I forgot what he said, but he said something to that effect. I guess they call it country music or the kind of West Virginia high and lonesome sound. Yeah, because, I mean, also Jim Morrison, And he was probably like 25 in that video, which is even crazier. I love the cars. fucking classic rock i love it i love listening to it yeah there's something about it that makes me it just makes me realize what a profound change it was between the 1950s and 1960s that the culture
1:57:20 and to free ourselves from the confines of what, like, you know, it's supposed to. That's what acid trip actually goes right, like you're saying. That would have been incredible to be in the presence of something completely unique. And, of course, you know, Stevie Ray Vaughan was amazing. that you're like you know some of the guitarists won't wouldn't do that that's not part of their
1:58:53 It's only 20 years. Like whoever else Drugs To embrace There was these Yeah. Morrison, Janis Joplin, Hendrix, all 27. so they were going after them with these drug laws and then you know they would arrest one person it's like this uncontrolled situation that like okay we're going to jump in this world but there's There's certain people that have schizophrenia in their their their genes
2:03:10 So it can start reading your brain, bad of add where i can't concentrate to get things done because I get things done. But I do have, I do think about a lot more things and I think I should maybe. So anyways, I was, I did this test and it shows like your, your signals coming and, uh, and it has all these different things like anxiety, delusion, schizophrenia, attention, so forth.
2:04:25 I thought you were saying like there's a way for that. Yeah. I think it's something that I think you'd be interested in. fuck what do you do if you find out you're really insane If you're really crazy They're real To know they're dumb the brain scan like no no it's you yeah you're tricking me you're you're doing something to me But yet you never are self-critical.
2:06:45 that is one of the the biggest problems for like why people are not finding their own success yeah or externally critical ideas. almost always fall apart yeah it's just it's unsustainable it's not a way to live your life yeah, Instead of just like going, Look at yourself critically. to be critical of them and find flaws in them look at what they're doing like look at like if
2:09:28 why do you have haters? He's got a real passion for creating things. It's awesome. Yeah. oh that guy's a dick you know and they'll think of you that way for the rest of their life even interrupted the conversation wanted a picture i was like there's a time and a place for it eating that is just one of those things don't interrupt me i'm eating don't interrupt me when
2:12:36 They don't owe you this you know doing his thing and i just see him hovering and i'm not gonna engage with him I was your fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. they just going crazy it's just it's such a wild place it's a hall pass it's like okay we gotta go pool till five o'clock in the morning six o'clock in the morning you know you and there'll be good players in there yeah and you know people really appreciate
2:15:56 What did you used to play? Okay, time up, baby. That's crazy. He's Dana White. No, he's actually gambling, and you're mad at him. Yeah. that guy has no chance like he's gonna get hurt yeah right and i was right like 80 of the time What are you fucking, man? I love that guy. It is amazing. That must be really hard. Crazy. Massive pain. He's in the middle of getting choked.
2:20:50 He didn't, make it larger. Who's that guy's nose? It went up into his forehead. But look how Mara shift. Yeah. Kung Lee. Damn, they did an amazing job. and his nose is still curved to the right, And then that bone that he's going to have is going to break down again. Well, Vanderley Silva got his nose reconstructed. That's the worst nose ever. That's the one that grew on his head.
2:24:04 Yeah, high intensity And I love making prop bets Yeah Oh, yeah. Right there? but I did win the bet, So I deal with him all the time. Huh? I round ball, you know, eyeball kind of my calorie count whenever I eat after after i met ray i was like okay i need to just find out what i'm deficient and i'm going Celogen. Really? Oh, wow. Pop-up window, boink.
2:28:59 biodna, hydro MN peptide. I take that. yeah that's like anything that's about the brain i want to know more about yeah this is one of my Do you drink coffee? Well, Laird Hamilton has this amazing machine out there that he gave us. he'll blow your fucking mind when he's talking about the power of functional mushrooms not just why why is it trainers why well donald cerrone is really into it and uh a few other fighters
2:31:49 He says he almost can read their minds. like a like a stem like a little drop no that's even i mean the best way to find out what it would Yeah. right now sort of nobody gets high off lions man i cut that open for you cool thank you like, Floating in a, have one here yeah i mean like the the two years, like the ice plunges. I've been, He's a character,
2:34:44 He drinks beer and eats spaghetti. Like he's fucking ridiculous. He's like, that's what the Vice documentary. That guy doesn't watch the diet at all. He drinks beer and eats spaghetti. Yeah. sense that he's just talking about breathing he's not talking about doing some sort of incredible One of them is in Mallorca, Spain. huddle we get get in there we come out we do the breath work hold our breath you know and it's it's
2:36:49 It's funny I didn't bring that up earlier because you're so tied in with UFC. At the UFC facility. Yeah, sure, sure. There's all these people running around. Oh, it's Ken Shamrock. Oh, my God. have you believe they'd have you believe that there's only a few different ways to go about He was the legendary fighter. Right. So in the beginning, I started wanting to learn Jeet Kune Do.
2:39:29 very very controversial because he made bruce lee look like a buffoon oh that sucks really arts like all credit has to go to the gracies because they're the ones who you know helson Exactly. The martial arts was one thing that's And he's Asian. Yeah, you definitely got that stance. that Bruce Lee room. Yeah, it was End of the Dragon, right? He wanted to make it exciting and flashy.
2:43:43 like he was quiet and humble. like a dope that sucks i'm was excited to watch that movie because i thought that bruce lee was to i'm not going to give anything away but there there's moments in Hollywood where you go, I can't believe you could still do this in a movie. well this is this mysterious death touch. When the old man goes, It looks like an Aikido guy.
2:46:40 playing like he believes it yeah it's It's so, so fucking corny. They're putting on their fucking outfit. Is available right now, right? me talk about it in my tone in my voice and if people want to