Joe Rogan Experience #1353 — Rob Zombie Transcript

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0:00 Here we go. Rob Zombie, ladies and gentlemen. How are you, sir? the music fans i can pretty much spot them you know but like when some guy comes up to me an that was rock and roll synonymous yeah it's like not not anymore what made you make that leap in most exhausting like 30 seconds like that was the worst 30 seconds of my life um what was i saying

2:28 I'm like, fuck it. Oh, yeah. That one day I realized, I just, this is how I realized it one day. friends and now the day we graduate you're like hey you guys were so that's what I do everyone's Yeah, it's true. no it's yeah it's super true it is super true and it's also it's interesting that you said that you but the line of like i'd have to deposit my check and i'd be in the line i'm like four more people

5:36 I'll be upstairs. It's 100,000 people. in the morning and there's like five people that's brutal it's just so weird it's like 500 people no Well, when I started, I was living in New York City. He was the cartoon king at that point. The only interaction it's right there. It's crazy that White Zombie Yeah. sort of inventing this thing they were doing. And that's how I felt with us

8:33 Like I was, what I'm talking about. I'm not going to school. So you never went to school for classical musical instruments or anything like that? You're giving so many kids out there hope right now listening to this. I was probably 19, maybe 20 20 and i was just sitting there because it never seemed like it was going to. happened there's always this weird thing and maybe you could relate we got it offered a record deal

11:15 How did you have those kind of balls? hire so-and-so to direct the video like Like naming, you know, he just did the naming some big, But it all worked. I didn't think they were good enough. hollywood and movies i mean it just it feels so far far removed i mean living on the lower east side are great so many friends to tell jokes that people aren't laughing but i also can't imagine staying there playing songs

14:10 where everybody's hair is down to here and they're going crazy Then we're going to come back because Good and the Bad and the Ugly is on tonight because it's Clint Eastwood week. We would look forward to what was going to be on TV. Remember as a kid, you knew Planet of what's what's going to be on the greatest thing ever we would look forward to what was going to be on tv remember as a kid like you knew planet of the

15:31 Whereas now everything's so compartmentalized that people just like, if you hear a band, where it's weird like you just it but if you're taking influences from stealing things from yeah i mean i just want to because you want you want that moment like oh what's this yeah yeah have been actually it might have been coz it might not have been bcn anyway whoever the dj was it was

17:50 I thought it was like this black reggae band until I saw a picture of them. The Cars is one of those bands where whenever you don't know what to listen to, you can You know, tall and lanky with the sunglasses on. And he was cool, too, because I remember when he he um produced the bad brains record rock for light and i was Like, that's just what we'd call it.

19:12 yeah so big time that ruled our world so watching them back then that's when you got the idea about it for a long time but you know that is kind of crazy it's weird yeah it's weird shit I was like, oh shit, it was 2000. i don't remember word for word but that was the conversation in a nutshell fired from wow which is so. What was the conversation like

22:00 to understand what was happening. man. I had, his office pitching him a movie i didn't have a pitch for. I had a title, but nothing else. It was weird. And act like you don't care. Were you like, what the fuck just happened? It was after that that you know the problem and like oh yeah i want to be weird and hide away because i'm weird no it's like i don't understand

25:48 fuck you, fuck everything that's normal. the conceived notions of what everybody thought was gonna happen and then round People are so fucking pumped. When our first Geffen, I still remember this. Ignore this band. I felt like maybe Yeah. you think that the guy's writing it writing all badass you'll think oh this dude must look like the same way it's going to be with other people

29:07 Everyone's like, but what about? I'll watch every everything i mean i whenever there's something that's more like um As soon as that movie started and the credits were food, I was like, this is like the greatest thing i've seen in a theater in like 20 years what is going on here well it's i just don't They did it way, way, way too late. Right, right, right.

31:17 so often they're not yes you know that's what i liked about the hangover if you turn the sound produced film with kids? piss your pants laughing. That's a good way to describe it. He's hilarious. where the first time I saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre, on about a thousand screens so it's not like everywhere like you can't walk two feet and it's Canada, they drive everywhere.

33:44 I didn't care. Yeah, it's an adventure. So the concert's your day. You're driving somewhere. And when I was younger, that was like part of the fun. I didn't care. that has It's just a room that I built that just is nothing So when you say a vault, like an actual vault? Like a bank vault? No, no. I just call it a vault. I want to see aren't there. know they or it's made to order cds i mean dvds on amazon and stuff so when i was a kid i was

35:53 I've still to this day, I've never seen one of those films, but the magazines were covered with like people with axes and blood. I would just see the poster. Like we'd be like waiting in line and like, oh, let's go get some french fries before the movie. Like, literally, I never went there once. if it's goal was to be boring was dead there was nothing there it was just a ghost town

38:25 It's mental. Right. Sworn. I've never seen I was like, what is happening? Right. Yeah. Well, wait, I want to back it up. Of course, there's no air conditioning. thing with like my deal at universal i was like too naive and weird to really comprehend what exactly the life as a kid that i remember when i saw the movie i was like this is this is what And me and my brother had to work and sell food and stuff.

42:18 coming out and you start hearing guns popping up and then the tents just went like nothing was the last time we ever did it um wow what a great way to go out though but the best was going to I mean, everything's rigged. But it was probably roulette wheels, I'm guessing. this was like uh when i was in high school i was in the backyard flavored the music a little bit yeah i don't know just like i should be i should be really

45:42 I mean, imagine the guys that have to come scrape up all the stuff off the road and put it in the bag. I was showing them some of the—Lon Chaney Jr. was something. The Frederick March one is great. After they watch porn. On iTunes, you can watch a preview, but it's not really a preview in its old films because But Lone Chaney was like, it was Phantom of the Opera, which is a really interesting one,

47:56 for a long time i don't do it anymore but i used to collect vintage movie posters and that's what my wife was out of town i was like let me tell you something kid in 1933 this was scary for people who they don't understand the makeup incredible that I was like must have been like running for the door pull up a But that must have just been like. Like they updated.

51:21 because everyone else is talking like, yeah, well, Yeah, even in the film, there's a scene where the woman had been bit. and they were trying to like play with the woman. where like the same guy was in the dracula's and he's so like swishing over the top and and he looked creepy and the way he would rise remember when they had him on a board it just

54:09 and like star wars and shit like which by the way i went to the star wars uh attraction yesterday Next to each other. But just the ride that are in the process same that's another movie that's so hard to put Somebody went to all the trouble of getting a Japanese laser and they cut together a Blu-ray of exactly the movie as it was in 1977. But the stuff from 77 still.

57:25 And it's amazing the amount of time. which still look amazing. Like most movies, they're like, you watch it and it's doing what the movie thinks will make you happy. They're all rolled up. You know? whereas with now the problem with cgi is they use it my movie was in all the spy kids movies and he said it was so hard because it's a you know it's all they're gonna say forest gumps oh no but like they're like removing major

1:01:16 one with like when they cut in raymond burr there's something so dark and fucked up about even see the damn thing because it's you couldn't show it that much like the you know like the shark and jaws but when you see it it's like it's actually there yeah you can feel that its jaws are right enough because she became tough and it made her but like like the whole i remember when alien came And she wasn't supposed to be super hot and sexy and young. But she was hot enough.

1:03:07 Yafit Kodo, They're just like so crazy. and it took up three-dimensional space in real life. And you could feel it. You could feel it. Yes. And, you know, yeah. Same thing. stars to the the horror nerds well the rick baker scene um when he transforms into the werewolf in film i don't remember that film that much i remember i don't i hate saying things because

1:05:49 Is that something that's a difficult thing to manage, or do you not have to deal with that anymore? it's just weird thoughts all the time. I go, I guarantee you when I walk into the office, they're going to say, can we get Howard Stern in this movie? The uncreative executive that wants to be creative, that is a classic story in Hollywood. the first thing he would say was spot on.

1:07:34 it's kind of like someone going like that joke's not funny here's how it would be funny you're Or they're not laughing. Right. bickle can't kill anyone he just has to save jodie foster because he's a nice person right you know like it ruins everything i mean but the rules of real life are different but for for fiction i mean Jaws today apparently would be PG.

1:09:54 Oh, my God. But the special effects as well, man. It's amazing. which is kind of like slap shots almost like the same won the stanley cup twice based on just being so scared We're going to go. trying to make it go and go and just could just never you could just never and i was in went to that like had really long hair and big beards i mean it's not like hockey you know everybody

1:13:37 year after year and we'd always hang out with the team and they'd come to our house and then party advertise the la kings as like it's like this family thing like oh come on down and cheer for the kings and it'd be like a girl in a hockey But what's not a hard sell is MMA, which is weird, right? like that's what i'm saying it's weird like a fight in a basketball game is a giant deal

1:15:59 It's weird. This is crazy. And the vibe was so heavy in the arena because we're like, is he dead? Dave Schultz it's like happen again and they rebuilt the team with basically like thug type guys i'm always amazed And man, which the amount of shock on your body. It's amazing. am i my life am i going to dictate you know right into this and you don't know and someone said to

1:18:58 And he was a 19-year-old college kid who started this petition drive. He started this petition drive to get Animal Crackers released from the vault Turns into Sunset Boulevard also. one of those books you're reading like five seconds and i just happened to find it by accident was very outspoken he was like on nixon's shit list and stuff and he didn't give a crap inside

1:21:21 because he was pretty sharp and good, even when he was older. I should be able to remember. Yes. Yeah, that is sad shit. What happened with that? Yeah, that's the thing. man. uh, Bob Weinstein, he's in L.A., yada, yada, yada. And that was, I don't know, it came out in 2007. and there was the same executive still there. Now, do you have long-term plans

1:24:56 He said, by the time the TV people watered it down and changed it, it gets on the air. other than like well your films are probably the most prominent currently well i mean if Oh, yeah. He was a nice guy. I don't know. Oh, God. like bouncy shocks or anything it's just hitting like boom ka-dunk and just oh my god yeah it's the Snake River Canyon thing

1:29:03 just what was going on around the the event that's one of Right, right. I don't know bullet man. Oh, the free solo guy, yeah. to get injured now too oh and you know he's for the first It's crazy to be known as the guy who's doing something that scares the fuck out of everybody. the fat ass fingers and he just can shove them into these cracks and hang on in place he was

1:31:40 So the guy gives him his chalk bag. I can't even watch his stuff. Yeah. But I get it. Yeah, that's kind of And I watched that series. but so you invested too much yeah but you kind of had to because it's like i figured with a topic And the footage of that, if you can find it while you're over there, such a short period of time that was maybe like seven years from go fuck yourself to like you

1:35:56 Look at all those people. And that was the entire parade I was just into martial arts, and I didn't even like sports. He was kicking this bag. I was balls into martial arts. Bobby Orr's here. Oh, yeah. bend in his knees that's it yeah he would play racquetball and he would just fall over so he golden boy and I don't keep making you pull up hockey clips but like you see some clips and it's

1:39:36 like a forward but he would be a defenseman so he's supposed to be the tough guy defending the Yeah, I know you're right. I was mean. I'm such a loser. after he smashes your head into the sink that were like a Bobby Orr out skating people. I mean, there were just some kids. And we're just like dopey kids. Well, that's where it goes back to the thing we said like an hour ago.

1:42:25 But then there's people like that sometimes that they just self-destruct because they don't care that they're good. It doesn't mean anything. this indomitable spirit because you've managed to make your way through the hardest levels of But maybe it's not because I think it bothers everybody who wants to do well. please say something nice about this.

1:44:16 That's such a request. time suck if i can just get this rob zombie if i could just get this rob zombie he can make it Yeah. because you never think it's good enough, like I was saying about Richard Jenny would say And they walk up to a girl and the girl's like, He wasn't funny. Very few. No, he's just dating paraplegics. No, he became an alcoholic.

1:46:44 But then when you when But I have this theory that nobody can learn from other people's mistakes. I mean, I never know anyone that learns from anyone's mistakes because you can – even if you're in the business and you go, look, here's my piece. Right. Yeah. like bombing like bombing on stage is like sucking a thousand dicks in front of your mother How long do you feel it takes?

1:49:17 that he's never going to be able to do there's people that just they're never going to be able Yeah. painting or writing making comic books they don't want to ever look at it the way other people look But they think it's great. the sting of criticism and you get it from way more people than you ever have before. You can tell, but some people surprise you.

1:52:15 and that's for them that's what they like and there's people that find that and they think Like what you're telling me is good? Then it's fucking with me. And that someone like Tim Burton're still talking about it and that someone like tim burton makes at it now i mean people will gather around and watch it especially after the johnny depp movie yeah because when johnny depp was such a weird ed

1:55:04 and he seemed so shocked that A lot of just weird character actors from the 70s that you'd see in like clint eastwood movies and stuff but like jeffrey lewis you know who's in like you know his sidekick in every which way but loose and but he was like, He was boxing in his 70s? He was a hilarious guy. I know. And I don't know if any of it's true, so I don't want to repeat it.

1:57:57 thing i saw him in so i was he just seems so authentically sleazy i used to have a bad lieutenant But probably fairly realistic. And Michael Dowd, who was one of the guys who was one of those corrupt cops, like he was showing up at the precinct with a fucking corvette like what is going on here man i mean it's like it was corrupt long before he got there yeah he just

2:00:13 That was the big word. band reagan youth and i saw this cop just jump on him and start pounding on him so bad he had all this shit that shit was wild And he said that he saw far worse beatings by the Chicago police than he ever saw for the Hells Angels. Most of them, I think, have PTSD. Oh, I just can't find my keys. Yes. But like their interactions with humans in real life like

2:03:37 And I was like, wow, this is weird. i don't think it's a stringent enough screening process i think there's a lot of people that are but how many of those interactions are positive the vast majority of So, and then when will it be available? ladies and gentlemen that was fun man