Joe Rogan Experience #1356 — Sturgill Simpson & His Band Transcript

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0:00 We willed it into existence. We have Chuck. we weren't sure about this place because it's so intimate man. Yeah, it was interesting for us. She came with me too It was amazing Like everybody was like There's no connection because everybody that is close to you is sitting down, I thought you were trying something new out. yeah the amphitheaters are weird i mean uh

2:48 He had a bunch of sneakers there. Then we're sitting there hanging out, and then fucking Everlast shows up. with like my generation so to be hanging out with him was super surreal i'm sure he's had a very That was a pretty, that album, I think I was in like seventh grade, sixth grade. It's what it is, y'all. Especially if someone says it with his voice.

4:53 You know? Like rapping? Yeah. But you could do it. Yeah. to like talk like they were black i never could understand what was going on it's a weird one There's like, you know, Eric from Everlast from House of Pain. Eminem, of course. but like white guys is stupendous yes Sorry. What the fuck? That's Canada. Good call. toronto oh yeah born in toronto yeah born in toronto 49 wow there you go yeah he went jamaican

8:52 like if you're a comic and you have a shitty special you can get your shit together and come or getting the word out on things versus now? But to make it happen like we did, you have to go out and do the laps. It spreads easier and faster now. similar story when he was talking about his uh beginnings as a comedian that he would get these They all have it. Whether they're comics or whether they're musicians, there's that fucking grind in the beginning where it could go left or right.

11:55 You know what I mean? Because nobody else, well, I wrote a song about turtles and drugs one year, It's just music man And you switch shit up And then listen to this album together these albums you know each one of them is they're uniquely you but they're all different is the only reason it got finished as fast as it did. why why can't we just go do that for two hours and make music that people can dance and have a great

14:32 it's great that you sort of going there anyway And you do isolate some fans, but at the same time, like if we're not inspired, Like, you could literally see the changes from 2016 to now. ideas that you just don't have in that moment and you get a year and a half later on a tour It should be. You guys don't ever get together? You're hiring someone as a tool.

17:46 I mean, how much of influence do record companies have on new bands? written into my contract that nobody could tell me what to do so it's common that you you think that excellence would bring money especially Especially today, in this day and age with the internet. you know anything turns into a product some gospel singers in the background what if we did this what if we you know yeah but you've

20:20 I got to really want to do something. Running a rail yard, just overseeing the switching crews that when the trains would pull in from the east and west side of the yard, So if we fucked up and tied up the main lines, You got to struggle in like difficult jobs till you're That makes sense. And horoscopes and shit What do you think about just making stuff up if you're if you're reading a horoscope or someone's trying to plant like

23:18 Numerology is the only You know, Nancy Reagan was all deep into that. It's not the same, right? After the assassination. What do you got? the takeoffs, and the landings of Air Force One. maybe there's a thing you know maybe maybe there's a reason why we like to believe in patterns but We really have to work it out. Oh, my God, he knew everything about my brother.

26:32 I think some people are way more perceptive. That is weird. that should creep you out that should creep you out i had a meeting with netflix about this anime Just do it. I just don't think it's consistent enough for anybody to pay money for it. senses that we can develop like our ability to perceive good and bad people our ability to Spidey sense. were talking about but they got to this thing where it was deception with primates that they'll

29:52 I do the same thing. goddamn song this is uh oh do we even did we introduce you properly no okay that's justin teammates saved me and uh we had blood on the ground like i got blood on on target and then which when you're an enlisted dude, you don't make generals wait. And so that money is going to them, and that's what I care about. taken care of from the foundation.

32:59 that's fucking awesome man that's really really really cool that's really cool that you're doing this I think that's just a fucking incredible thing but it's also so valuable, so valuable for everybody that hasn't served I'm a medic, excruciating pain that's the life of an amputee or they're guys that are worse than me so I'm like a whirlwind when if i was getting a push of it but things it's like, it always felt like a whirlwind when the,

35:36 Cause unconscious would mean that you're like, He stepped on ID. to treat me i cut my own shirt off and then i get the ketamine and i'm like in and out and i see human which general mattis has told us a group of us on the way back from my first trip it's like this inevitable the inevitable consequences of war that that started scraping me off the bottom to focus on that after that trip yeah that ketamine shit is a weird one because um a lot

39:11 yeah i think the ketamine was just something he was treated for i think he was doing a bunch of He would allegedly give dolphins acid. that's a double whammy sweet yeah a double whammy so is that stuff um difficult to get off of or do to the hospital and duff was like methadone is worse than heroin like because g and r guys were rocking it in the 80s but that was

42:02 because they would come in they all had had this sort of dull shuffle to them. so we're accepting that they have to get methadone every day, that would probably be your best but for a quick solution if that's what you mean like Yeah. and then I weaned another drug, Lyrica. taken I mean you describe just man just like how can anybody you know and then

45:07 And it was like just in a matter of short time. if I'm going to have a bunch of attention on me, i want to i want to help so uh help with the podcast help with some comedy shows maybe I think it's probably that sort of changes I'm just a dude. to accept that war is inevitable it's a hard thought and it doesn't seem like it's inevitable hasn't been going to war with each other it's a horrible truth of being a person

48:52 But overall, the world is continuing to improve Yeah, extremely. and try to do everything in political power and state strategy and we were worried about russia do you remember that shit yeah i'm older i'm older you guys and How does any country, but the Vikings took mushrooms. It's always been a part of us. before i forget the thought it was everything else associated

52:32 is in your house and for whatever reason So I knew that was somebody leaving. neighbors got it on like a ring cam in the back alley the guy leaving and going down the street So I'm looking the next morning. I was almost impressed. and the back door and then I saw the adrenaline spike, so he hit that back gate on a dead run go through your head in like four seconds

56:50 And I was like, you know, literally by the time we engaged, man, two seconds later, he's running out the door. Oh, yeah, yeah. Was he a junkie? I'm just hard times desperate and so I got subpoenaed because I was the only So we had 13 or 14 aggravated burglary charges, which is pretty fucking heavy, you know. doing the same thing. on who he is cause he was just some

59:28 But there's so many people in this country that are set up to fail. becoming losers but you help them when you're their kids during their developmental period you mean spend more You've been assigned your lot. You got fucked fucked you got a bad roll of the dice and that's a lot of countries man this is one of the few countries where like anybody can just put the fucking boots

1:01:31 everybody wants to hear that story that's the fucking story rocky heart bro yeah bro over here were you yeah miles and i both fucked around the room when that got made it's great like we even know what the fuck's happening so you guys don't get together before no chuck and Yeah, I've been in the area for like 25 years. Because I just love the idea of you going out and, hey, we need a badass bass player.

1:04:18 better than others too i mean yes there's levels to it man yeah i mean there's there's uh suzanne in the room tiny ass little crowded like midnight on a tuesday night and i mean maybe i'm exaggerating kind of music i never i've never met him we played a festival once he was at and i just saw him Really? But everybody loves it. You're a musician. But I don't know if that's true or if he's just working on a bit.

1:07:01 No, because if I'm saying it, I probably really do mean it. My loyalties go back. It's a dangerous time. Delicious-ass food. We do truck stops in the south sometimes, two, three in the morning. Was Dalton, yeah, was he born before or after Roadhouse? Looking back now. right amount of muscular red dawn brother that too Oh, fuck. at somebody else's woman.

1:10:41 for Dwight Yoakam, And we were down in Pharr, Texas. of white cowboy hats. not really, but the younger guys times you know and finally we're just kind of sitting in the corner not speaking in mind our He took his cowboy hat off, and he went at him and beat the fuck out of both of them. You could definitely kill somebody with a bottle, though. just want you know he's fucking Bob Bob was so high last night he could say

1:14:30 It was all exposed wiring? since like 2011 there's a picture yeah man stuff. Why not? It's only going up from there, really. Boom. You know what I mean? it is kind of a i mean that's what you did. Yeah. I mean, that's what it's about. from the people that lived there, And they're trying to explain. They're guarding heroin? the internet well they know dude it's a trip yeah it's geraldo rivera interviewing this guy

1:18:48 Was the Taliban, would they burn it down, Politically, I guess you're asking a very important question. Well, from that time period of that video, yeah. in heroin trade i've met at least two elder gentlemen in my life randomly in bars who in Mexico to refuel You look at this plane accurate but it's just all memes that can't be right 400 tons straight into that bag did you

1:21:02 He was awesome. Oh, man. Gucci loafers. How much coke does it take mounted him? Wow. and he's got a fucking sign around his neck he's a rapper Look he's got his hat sideways And he's got a fucking sign I definitely had heard Found the coke drop dollar fucking north face parkas and shit he's like what are you doing man you're gonna die right and then you lose your footing and you fall down the tracks between the cars.

1:24:32 Unless you hit a fucking cow or something standing in the middle of the track and you're going 70 miles an hour. Whoa. I didn't really hit anything. Nothing? No. Oh. I mean, imagine, though, being in a train. But what was the biggest thing you hit? I didn't really hit anything. Like I said, it's a mile and a half long train with four or five locomotives on the front of it all

1:26:03 the way and destroy it. and everything behind it is still going 70 miles an hour stacking up behind it and uh i mean you Kill a whole city. You derail Dude, you freak me out. But, like, you know, two or three times where you'd be sitting out there push it it'll be okay until the when they designed the system 100 plus years ago, nothing has changed since then.

1:28:39 and it's all just piling on top of itself and like like, it wasn't like two seconds. I watched this train go from being on the track good thinking. Freaking out Aren't they trying to do some bullet train Just go write a song, brother. Yeah. Right on. Oof. I don't know. Really? and then when i was in dc i can't what stays that what station is a big one in dc

1:31:04 like when we're out in the bubble on a long tour where everybody's just sort of not talking at the airport or whatever it is. And people were trying to get up on the train. that you feel somewhat less crowded somehow. and there's millions of them on this one island, but they're super considerate. country when you think about the history and their contributions to the martial arts in particular.

1:34:13 yeah um just that whole the the culture like what their contributions to martial arts like Yeah. I have a very good friend He's just a good dude. and anime films and the textures and the color and everything. and like all his buddies are the man too and those guys are also used to working under what the record was about So he just sort of reacted passionately to the music,

1:37:50 into chapters so even though there's somewhat of a linear a linear narrative told out of because those guys don't do half-ass you know what i you know well yeah I didn't want to which is also frustrating they'd be like what is going on here yeah yeah we basically made a you know heavy metal or the wall and then a couple other famous samurai films is also a fistful of dollars where you got one town of people being oppressed by a couple rival factions or gang leaders and sort of using them for their own billing.

1:41:18 So feel free to add or take things in any direction you want at any time. with this traditional dance, and they're doing this dance, thing 40 same length the audio is the album it's 42 minutes wow yeah yeah do you think you're going to do this in the future again like It looks awesome. she rides off with the two robots and there's like an ai monster on left dealt with or you

1:45:04 to be in front of people all the fucking time, I don't want to play music with anybody else. Because all these guys have extremely broad and diverse influences and ability. well yeah you got a certain point you just realize you're not in charge amps and blowing it out and getting it really dirty like a big cracked out laser beam and I out and craft the meter and phrase to those words musically in the

1:48:19 for a matter of days and you just keep going until it's done and you have ideas in the moment but now i don't even pick a guitar up to write i just write what i want to say what i'm feeling and then these guys and we would record riffs in a certain key The improvisational part of it sounds terrifying. So with these sessions, that was the only rule.

1:49:54 How do you guys do it? He just kills it. So from that point on, every time he played, he had a joint in his mouth. Who? The problem is listen to recordings and go what yeah what what was that the fuck were we doing i mean we had to until I sent them the record three weeks We know each other. Just jump back on it yeah i'm still catching things in the recordings

1:53:12 Yeah, I mean, you said it, but you have an idea of what you want, doing something i know i hadn't really heard before or maybe i was hearing like 15 of my was much more of like i came in you're the songwriter and like it's session musicians Right. met miles bobby played organ on my very first record uh i'd never met him he got called down and going to the only place that was still open

1:56:13 records man you know and I blew it off whatever I'm a grown-ass man and I kept walking and I got And about the time I get to the group of dudes oh Bobby Bradley Coopers. We weren't bothering nobody. It was disgusting. over to a rest stop yeah you find a nice nice pilot somewhere in Omaha and shit on the toilet the same 38 truckers have today. Movies.

1:58:53 Put his face on it and shit. That nightly adrenaline blast is the hardest thing on me. But the bus, It's your home. And if you get off, it's just like fucking Joseph Conrad, man. 300 nights a year? and it was like because it's making so much money me pretty pretty hard around the second kid um and i just realized like there's a smarter way to do Yeah.

2:01:50 you know and most of the shit i do is around la it's like the practice stuff just to stay sharp Yeah. is gonna be accused of that at some I definitely push things too hard I sing You're changing, like, there was a few songs you did last night that I recognized the song, but it was like a totally different beat. hate live albums because i felt like they went too fast very few of them actually were alive

2:04:25 The Kiss thing is like They were Yeah that's exactly They would sound different. songs they're harry nilsson and neil diamond wrote 90 of that shit really that's why they're But they were singing it. I don't know. That's right. Mike made the best solo records, I think. Have you seen Head? It's like psychedelic. Really? I didn't know this existed. Sonny Liston's in it?

2:07:25 Science fiction Fight companion Good to know Wow. Whoa, it made $16,000. I don't know. Yes. How do you guys rock it? No. Everybody was into Ginger. Yeah, probably. No. I know I'm still on the show, but I'm on vacation. It was like contract negotiation. Yeah, it went from Mr. Roper to Mr. Furley. That was the best part. That was Don Knotts, right? Yeah, Don Knotts.

2:11:34 Oh, yeah. Everybody loved him. Yeah, you're falling down and taking the impact on your fucking back. Who told us about this? And then later, when he was older, the doctor was examining him. They made people different. Because people always say that Chevy Chase is was a I gotta think That was a contributor To him being cranky Cause always In fucking pain all the time

2:13:39 Up in the air That's right. That's right. I've ventured into this a little bit myself. I fell on my back in some rehearsals for a movie last year. And then I had to piss every three minutes for the next week. And you have to do it again. man. I was like, all right, I won't be a pussy. Dudes are jacked up all the time. squatting 8 000 pounds all through your 20s though but like i would say that was a preventative measure really like you're maintaining like

2:17:08 they're mostly doing it, if they're doing it as a competitive wrestler, doing it on mats. a part where i definitely had to like judo flip his ass onto frozen like That's where I can't wait for robots to get really good at body slams. to make avatar did the video for the number four song on this film michael arias still a great pretty uh guy was so fucking genius he

2:19:30 That was 10 years ago They got a thing They wished they were If they only knew they are. At people Where the movie was taking place How have you never seen The Goonies? Dude, you've got to watch Avatar, man. If he can't do it, he just invents some shit so he can go do it. doesn't mean it's not an awesome movie, you fucking pain in the ass. It's a lot like Roadhouse.

2:21:48 Well, there's a lot of colors to be like the... Yeah. some sort of a psychotic seizure she's fl, like flopping back and forth and flailing. Oh. I've seen it. But it's one of those movies where you watch Yeah, you see her ta-tas It's awful. Have you seen that? You got to look it up. So this is a nature documentary Is a weird mushroom Bear's tripping balls.

2:25:38 Well, you ever see the jaguar tripping out on ayahuasca? No. It's about the life of a bear. The thing about the people who take that ayahuasca, too, is they see jaguars. Nope. He's the only one who kept the family name, right? He'd been compromised by the man. Everybody He had a shitty agent Who's the guy We've gone to every one. john he's a doctor that did a bunch of like unlicensed sex change surgeries in like garages

2:29:14 Everything's... I think it was almost I was thinking about it. He injects silicone wherever you want it for like $200. Like, look at that. Great job. It came out came out great once and he's like i'm just chasing that Look at the frown on his face God damn it They should make a movie Self-appointed sex change specialist Oh, boy. apparently in the most unlikely and inappropriate locations.

2:32:46 oh no oh my god uh read this next what is yeah despite the concerns of his peers many of brown's for post-operative care he was totally focused on the technical procedure itself and he didn't do Do you want to play a game, Joe? What was that one with the dude that made The Room? Where he played the... bad like you think you're gonna get schizophrenia from watching it like it's distorting reality in

2:35:14 I don't know. It's just a trailer and then this guy's packing up his gear, and he's getting in his car. So I'm going to have to do this offline. I think I've got to go with Head next. Yeah that's a good description right there The album, it's out. Or you can steal it on Spotify and just come to the show your call um open invitation special forces foundation.org