Joe Rogan Experience #1363 — Dakota Meyer Transcript

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0:00 what's up dakota what's going on we finally did this i know finally we've been talking about it I was like, this is so intense. podcast that was by far the most i mean he like jaco just pulled it out of me like right like Well, you could tell because for Jocko, I mean, I listened to a lot of Jocko's podcasts, Like you said, I think we both, I think Jocko was getting as much out of it as I was, right?

2:58 guys. It is, you know, and I think that's what like, you know, that's what I'm so fortunate And sometimes it's hard to understand whether or not they grasp exactly what they're saying, but that people make sacrifices so that you could be free. this is why America's not like it is in other places because of this strong military. you know, from Rob O'Neill to Marks Luttrell, like I think every warrior out there has to tell

5:30 And that was because there's only two types of people in this world. this, for, for the belief to be free. This, this, this belief of democracy, this belief of, of what forget that really hit home to me is I had an Afghan, we were sitting up on the mountain, You know, we're all just alike. fighting alongside both of those countries and trying to rebuild it up and trying to get rid of

8:00 Yeah. war right they just don't want war but it's like you know i mean there's no way you mean you can go in your house and and lock your doors and and sit there and try to pretend that the evil that we I mean, literally, you can start here and come from nothing police officers you know we're the only country on the face of the planet that doesn't swear

10:39 Well, people love to point out the horrible aspects and they love to ignore the good aspects. They love to dwell on the bad parts. And I think ultimately that's going to prove to be good for and come to an understanding Steven Pinker talks about this And, I mean, you know, people don't get the same share or the same stake in life. country. It's possible. It's 100%. 100%. Nobody's holding you down. You have the choice to be able

12:32 like suffering has became normal for people right like like it's became entertainment like look at And it's like, you know, at what point do we start humanizing these things? And the more, you know, the more graphic it gets, like the less desensitized that we have to another human being suffering. the old art that I was always told to live by is treat someone as you would want to be treated yourself.

15:18 And it's also the same thing that I think when you're filming something that's happening in real life is the same thing that you've seen in these video games and on television shows i mean we we have never Bang, bang, bang. there's nothing in the glass you just keep doing it over and over again and then you get some real It's kind of like imagine the way I look at it is, you know, you look at all these simulators, like flight simulators.

17:01 Yeah. It's murder porn. The one thing that doesn't hurt anybody that everybody wants, that would be horrific to you see her feet up in the air you'd be like what are we watching oh yeah this is crazy but yet you And you're like, whoa. You should go to jail But Fucking we're weird bro we're scene where she gives him a real blow job yeah and everybody who saw it in the theater was angry

20:20 And he's like, he's shooting people in the neck and the asshole and the face and the eyeballs in the mouth. It's super weird. Like a self-produced sex tape. For real. killed the water buffalo with a machete. We should shoot you with a bow and arrow. I posted the first elk I ever shot with a bow. This is my nutrition. Everybody's got their own. most people it's not the healthiest move but you know you mean you gotta give respect i mean a

23:50 And part of his discipline applies to his diet. sores. It doesn't? and in other countries they're just trying to get enough protein to feed their family they're just gosh, you know, we, we, you know, we're over here complaining about stuff that, but I would just love some perspective from people. And if that's all you do is constantly put out fires, like, at what point do you become grateful?

26:29 every little thing. And a guy finally sat me down and he looked at me and he goes, look, Dakota, And you know what? And the thing is, I think I'm so fortunate to have gone through the experiences push where it's at. And I feel like all these problems that we have are just made to, hey, we need to tighten our lens back up to focus on what really, really, really matters.

28:17 It changed how I was going to look at my day. And experiencing what you experienced in that insane firefight being locked down. I could have never. and it's possible you know it's just it's just one of those deals of you know that that day was just all my teammates died, so they'll never have kids. That's reality. cause there was a point, there was a point that I feel like that anybody that when they, whether

32:49 This guy, he believes in his cause as much as I do. He doesn't believe he's wrong. and um and eventually let up a little bit and I ended up getting around him and I just got we were fighting And I remember just, like, finally, like, after hitting him, you know, I don't know, Like I don't feel bad about that part of it. you know, he obviously ended up dying. And, and, and it, what it showed me was,

36:28 The way they look at it in Afghanistan, Yeah. the support but because i think that it's not necessarily support it's the power that they have Yeah, I mean – So they would all start fighting. I would give anything for a 9-12. Like, it was crazy. I remember, I mean, everybody was proud to be Americans. Like all these differences go away. the movie the tribe yeah have you read it i I haven't read it. It's very good.

41:00 me and my buddy were, were laughing about the other day, a base that he had been on, Like if they hadn't sacrificed that day, would your life be changed? better place. That's all we were trying to do. We're trying to leave it better than we found it that moment. And if we take that same concept and we apply it here, You can't. But on the backside of it, you know, we're not necessarily going in and fighting for other countries,

44:27 You don't want the evil to progress. you know when you're in calabasas you know going to the mall you know getting yourself a fucking I can tell you this. And for us to go over there and do that and keep it off the country, to keep it out of our country, to keep it to where, you know, our kids and our families and our mothers and fathers and don't have to worry about this.

46:48 That's a good question. I mean, you look at some of this ISIS stuff of what they're doing. Who's going to do it? if you look at any of the books never be resolved is because the military industrial complex wants to keep us at war and this is just a big money grab and that's what we're just so lucky that we have an all-volunteer military with some of the greatest

49:58 Go over, they put their whole life on hold. Like somebody pulled a gun out. You know you're going to die. What would you give your life for? Had my 18th birthday in boot camp no shit yeah Like, oh, I woke up and knew I was going to be a Marine. Yeah, that was it. where we're where we deserve to be because we made the decisions up to this point I did, yeah.

53:38 gosh, I never want them to see me in that, in that, that state. Right. And the other day we were on the road, I was speaking out in North who play these video games and they, they from like there's no emotional attachment to it and it's like I've been on tons of blood pressure medicine. I mean, you go down the list, right? And, uh, It goes in your neck.

56:27 Instantly. your automated, like there's no longer do you say, I recognize this as a threat and now I go into How long does it last? I don't know. Wow. procedure called the stellate ganglion block can relieve the symptoms of PTSD in as little That's insane. I've never heard of this. Like I actually, like I walked out of there and I, any of the other methods I've ever heard of.

1:01:11 like if you want to go do talk therapy, it's like going to a nutrition coach or a workout coach and not giving them Is it a standalone thing? You'll start feeling anxiety or anxious and that becomes your new baseline. It'll rock me. Are you thinking about war while this is happening? Like I went back and I was in another gunfight four days later. I mean, you look at the October 1st shooting in Vegas.

1:04:00 They think it's not affecting them at all, but it really is. What do they recommend when you, I mean, do they check on you to see if you are having anxiety like I used to drink a lot and, and, but I was doing it not because I was an alcoholic. And it's like, you know, most people that have PTSD are car wreck victims. you tell your command i mean you know there's there's all types of resources there i mean you

1:07:05 My daughters, my daughter, Sailor. So I ended up getting it in 2017. it's called an alpha stem and so it goes on your earlobes i've heard of that and people quit smoking with that Do you use CBD? That's a good place to study. Yeah. You're asleep. Yeah. It's not. They're keeping it weird. Yeah, man. Yeah. the first person that they would shoot, they should shoot, right?

1:11:43 Well, at least you can get a vape pen there. Pesticides? I had a guy named John Norris who wrote a book called The Hidden War. of people, particularly in other parts of the country where it's illegal. I'll just let you read it. So it's like a weed website. in a light industrial space northwest Los Angeles Canoga Park District. along with the THC. Edibles and vape cartridges seized.

1:15:06 Source familiar with cushy punch accused the adult use licensee of maintaining two facilities one licensed Yeah. It's stupid to It was fucking hilarious I heard their new episodes He's like, I thought I was gardening. and his whole family arrested it's such a fucking lie in there mad at cartman and then cartman got business and trying to fight it you Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem though. There's a business trying to fight it.

1:18:13 it's a pretty un-American near that place. Can you imagine? these are rookies you can't be smoking that much weed with rookies showing up at these buildings where you got restaurants filled with people smoking weed south dakota i can't believe you guys have free weed what is that what is that a chibichu and Same thing in the back Like I want restaurants where people are straight.

1:20:23 But for some reason, I feel like that doesn't bother me as much. Were you in the military or when you got out? the whole fucking world spinning yep i was like this. I got to get out of here. And I called a cab to take me home, and I threw up in the cab. It's just luck. You go out with someone in their 28 if they don't know how to drink Just shit-faced.

1:22:00 I was like, fuck this. It was like a big fat boy. I was six. Hello. You can't keep that fucking fat bastard in your pocket. But then that was like six minutes of talking. didn't have a charge you're fucked you can go to a rep nobody has a goddamn cable at a restaurant the middle of the seats like the the phone but it was it helped me because uh i used to get gigs

1:24:38 Oh, yeah. That's so true. Like everyone needed to get sports scores all day long. I'm like, what the fuck is that? And I remember thinking, I should probably get one of those. better than a walkie talkie like why not put smoke screens on You're talking shit with your friends. Your neighbors talking Yes I heard the neighbor You just had to have a fucking antenna.

1:27:37 Well, a hundred percent. I mean, text messages, emails. I mean, people can build their own reality Yeah. And there's no accountability, right? You can't find me. Like, this guy's a dick. That'd be terrible. Like the people that you're judging, the people that you're criticizing their lives, that I don't try to compare the experiences. you look at, you know, sexual assault victims, you look at, you know, you look at domestic

1:31:12 What do you do with your days most of the time, these days? So Linda Ellis wrote a poem. And you don't have control of the day you're born or the day you die, but you have control of what that dash looks like and how you made people feel and how they're going to remember you the day that you're gone. and so i'm i'm i have i'm launching this site to where it's like it's helping people

1:33:01 They're just surviving. It's a resume engine engine so basically it helps So we do digital art and we put it up on different media types. Yeah. I've got a signature flavor coming out called Dax Savage. Dude, he drinks tea But the world's better that he's alive And it's like, this is finite. Like everything, it ain't complicated. Here's a chance to grow.

1:35:47 It's done so much for me. windshield out. It makes you want to go. I'll slaughter it. We need fucking savages. live in the grip of life as you know nothing gets done by being a bitch stay hard brother Tim Kennedy. I would take 10 of them in one day, and then I would put them on HootSot suite and they would come out one day you wake up at 4 30 yeah that's just not that's just not you

1:38:59 Pushing it every day and finding, podcast which is cleared hot i love andy i love andy too he's a shit he was in camp as well I mean, anybody who has the world record for the longest flight suit in one of them flying squirrel fucking suits, not nowhere near handy stump dude that looks like a ridiculous thing to do. I don't get it, but I was just in a hot air balloon recently.

1:40:36 I would do it. Woo. He's got to get in that goddamn squirrel suit. where a guy was trying to bridge the gap through the Golden Gate Bridge and he slams into the bridge while these people are watching. You're just kind of guessing. Hollis Gracie, he died sky gracie he he died uh skydiving I love it. Yeah. No. I'm not saying it should be illegal. So I love it.

1:44:25 and he took me up and we flew around downtown la and it was crazy we went uh around malibu after I mean, a helicopter? Today's his birthday, actually. So basically, you just go up and you do three takeoffs and landings. Have you ever been Hella hunting That they did These wild pigs it's fucking crazy the video is goddamn Just flying around, gunning them down.

1:47:11 So if you, especially those, the wild ones actually taste better than domestic pigs. Because they eat everything. Yeah. it's like there's this whole gestation period of why they reproduce so much. And they're all over the place, man. That's awesome. You know, he had Hearst Palace up there, or Hearst Castle, and he wanted to bring a bunch of wild animals up there.

1:49:07 But eventually they're probably going to make their way to the San Fernando Valley. If you've never seen it before, people on the outside are like, oh, why would you want to Yeah. Goddamn hippies. It's the government. He's awesome. He's actually a very good man. didn't really have the the same information that they have today like now today people can understand

1:51:57 You know they have that game wardens TV show? They put a robot deer It does On one hand Good It's because they have this stringent set of rules really what this country had at the turn of the century when market hunting was in full swing As its state flag And that's where that guy got whacked. Have you ever been around a grizzly bear in real life? The difference is really their diet.

1:54:59 But they're also eating a shitload of fish. This couple of guys are fly fishing, and they don't even realize that a bear is right behind them. This fucking huge bear is just right behind them looking at them. There's another video There's a fucking The guy's yelling at him That the bear ate him Oh well they must be Of human up there The bears in the park

1:56:58 That might shoot them and kill them That's why they're so big Of this guy This guy's got a lawn chair there year and um it was a whole different world it's a different world a whole different world it's We had a great time, man. Yeah, I think April to probably September you know, probably September is really, it's awesome. That's pretty cool though.

1:58:57 you pull up the trailhead and we uh we got out of the car and we hadn't sprayed the bug spray on Fresh blood. But it's also like when you're up there, you recognize like, oh, machines you'd have to park and then you'd have to ride snow machines out to it and it's like That's crazy. fucking zero mosquitoes they're like they're just like chill oh my god look at these legs are just

2:01:13 Imagine getting your feet lit up just for Instagram something home um i used to i grew up hunting i grew up hunting and uh you know we've got a farm I killed a black bear. I think it's almost a million. Yeah. And, um, so you're driving out and literally you're getting out to open the gate, leaving Even if it's a million acres, if it's a million acres in every 800, 900 yards, you have a

2:03:41 How good were those things? How long are you in town for? As soon as. Yeah. And then you got zebras just running around. Running around. around yeah i got a buddy who has a farm who has elk about texas and about how there's more tigers in captivity of the wild of the world. So these giraffes Yes, like the zoos, I guess they couldn't afford to keep up with them or something.

2:06:10 Yeah, if you have a dog that's dangerous, people think you're an asshole. to right i don't know man it's pretty nuts but there's a lot of them a lot of them there and There's a lot of them there, though, man. That's almost like The Hangover, right? These kids are just That's crazy And a privilege Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks so much, man. Appreciate it. Bye, everybody.