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0:00 three two one cameron haynes ladies and gentlemen hey what's up nice shirt buddy it must be nice, I think you read some comments too. you go i love this man i'm like i love this man. I'm like, I love this man. Yeah. And someone said, I always wondered what it would look like if Cameron Haynes and Joe Rogan had a baby, and we almost found out. There's a lot of frustrated comedians out there.

1:51 With a full-time job, I mean, it's normal that you run a marathon in a day. It's fun. then they go and they have these little twitter wars people back and forth yeah and they they He lost – how much weight did that guy lose, Jamie? Congratulations. after it and it makes people want to do things and when they know that you're doing these hundred and you're eating good and now you're you're joining a gym and you're starting to do chin

5:17 like you said towards uh a different life essentially i joke around about it on stage about accidentally influencing dudes They would never get to know these people. real life. Right. They would never get to know these people. None. utah and man people ask hey so how is jocko and'm like, exactly like what you, I mean, how, what he says and how he Yeah.

8:09 giving him some instruction i got pumped because i knew i'm like this guy's gonna dive into this Kickboxing, a lot of different martial arts. And to me, archery might be the ultimate. And then I think people who've done it, they definitely know how hard it is. Crazy day. crunch time that was such a beautiful thing it's like that's why it elicited the the uh orgy type

11:19 first thought that came into my mind practice is so important well and then i was impressed because to the thumb on the release as I pull back. like be i'm not hoping yeah that it hits in that spot i'm aiming It might mean different things to different people. I always forget which one is which. i'm doing anything wacky right there's no chance you're spazzing out in the moment yeah and so

14:05 and i remember and i said this at that time but i remember your follow-through it was just like so And that whole thing, you making that an actual process actual process each step but i think i don't That moment was so crazy because we had that bull. with another bull for a brief time and we were switching back and forth which one to shoot So he runs.

16:32 I see a lot of people who haven't hunted. Both of his lungs were gone. And they have, take tines to the shoulder and everything he had holes in them all the time he's beat up yeah Boom. familiar with rifle kills and maybe they think that they but even with a rifle they don't go right down and i think it's like a rifle is even can be you know they hear the sound a rifle will

18:19 Right. And they also get jacked because they're blowing out all their energy while they're in the rut. It's a perfect storm. they also don't understand that all the money that's spent on this elk hunt all of it goes to and that message is, the, hear stats you know about meat consumption and food and like what's bad for the environment what's good for the

20:54 Yeah, their genes are passed on. hunt wanted to get my buck hey you get your buck that's all i wanted to do is get my buck and then I had a hard run this morning right before my podcast. Like when you're eating it, I feel like energy. You can get the tenderloins out, which are under the spine. Yeah. animal's eating wild grasses. This animal's eating the same diet it would have eaten 4,000 years ago.

24:34 It's so green up there. Yeah, they are. Right. Which is kind of crazy. Varying information. that's good for nutrition Yeah. but bow hunting has got because he owns the bow rack and bow bow hunting is skyrocketing because buddy was back there and said he said you need to come back here and hunt again. And I'm like, yeah, no. forest yeah um wilderness they won't allow filming permits so um but anyway he said i go i go man i

29:07 Those are the spots that discourage people where you know that you're going to have to hike in 12 miles. Well, Green Tree, when he shot his bull and when he was on that crazy 28-day hunt, didn't it take him like seven days to get his bull out? how much work it is breaking down a bowl because yeah because we've done it but then you go from there to okay now i gotta walk it out 10 miles and you got to

30:31 That was a nice six point. That's always the. The stigma. He shot his last bow with a long bow. But, like, come on, man. well our friend I think yeah maybe Did you see that? It was pretty sweet, yeah. Oh, his shoulder's that fucked up? me to get injured never so you're like never i'm like no i'm like this is crazy i'm stunned i'm put on all those miles but i just that's just part of the part of the deal so i just work through it

34:17 I mean, I don't, even if I'm down or don't feel good or haven't got sleep or i'm hobbled i'm only thinking about i'm 100 I could not sleep last night because I was thinking about that whole thing today. So instead of sleeping- That keeps you up? Really? Yeah, stupid shit like least thing to worry about. This is, there's no schedule here. I'm still thinking about it. Yeah. So instead of sleeping.

35:14 What if it runs late and I can't do the podcast until three? Yeah. Workouts and training and all that shit. It is nice. I said, Joe's earned everything he has. I understand what they say. But I don't think it's better. that that that killing an elk is any easier or harder it's just they're bigger because they're because every other hunter out there

38:19 They're acting like wild animals because they're not pressured because there's not that many people out there. i've been on public land hunts i get the difference and it's definitely more satisfying when you're successful because it's more difficult Wild rut fest that video that you got of us walking and you just hear just all day yeah all day they were going off

40:29 So I'd go to the wilderness to hunt those. Right. And I'm like, well, if it's better than Wyoming, And it's just an extension of that process 30 years of it right that's it that's all anybody's trying to do yeah you don't you No. apply for it as well? Yeah. I don't think they get... Oregon's terrible for out-of-state, It definitely gives you better bragging rights, right?

43:51 Here I am fucking running hills every goddamn day trying to keep up with you. Like, what if I wasn't doing all this goddamn hill running? Thank God I do that all the time. That's what I think people need to understand about the reason why you condition yourself. Gasping. The biggest thing I see is not only that, They get gassed from going up the hill hard trying to get this.

46:12 been 17 yards closer than the bull i shot or close to it yeah and he just fuck this Yeah, I did want to say one thing about the whole must be nice type thing is I don't – a big pet peeve of mine is not so much the public and private and all that. I'm like, who cares? for 30 years and couldn't afford an elk tag it's they shouldn't do it that i mean come on

48:14 I mean, you know, we can, I'm not going to say we got some momentum going now, but we could lose it. And she said, well, he's actually on an elk hunt right now. Do you understand that you're eating a steak? It's not. I mean, in England or wherever. You know, like, look, look at that fucking wild, dark meat that I'm cooking and I'm eating all the time, all the goddamn time.

50:37 But it takes a while for the life to get all the way. We all took our hats off and bowed our heads. But it's happy when you make the shot. Because it's so hard to put into words to be into that moment and to be that person that draws that bow back And the fact I took the animal's life is part of it, but that doesn't, it's not lost on the fact that I know I took it and it means it's, that's a big deal.

53:28 I mean, he's literally carving into a steak while he's saying that. and most of them will quit they're going to quit veganism and they're going to start eating meat But Cam Newton, who is a quarterback of the Carolina Panthers, big dude, 6'6", 250, 260. It's an indoctrination movie. Like they eat meat. We exist better. agricultural when they talk about greenhouse gases we talked about this the other day nine percent of

57:49 Birds. That's not healthy. There's definitely animals dying from that. these animals to live i look i don't want factory farming i think it's terrible it doesn't none of That's not the factory farm. I'm all for that. yeah they're a good outfit one thing i do i did also see is, because I killed three bulls this year, and it's weird because people say, well, there's no way you can eat all that.

1:00:36 like people would be like it'd be better if you killed maybe just one bull and if you bought the give away to friends you know. I get elk sausage made. I made. It makes me really happy when one of my friends sends me a meal, Well, you know, Ian Edwards is going to eat elk. But he said that he'll eat A piece of my elk It's going to be so good Yeah it uh i don't know uh it can be too rich yeah basically because people aren't used to that

1:03:27 Fuck. What's interesting? It's like the road from, you know, you coming over my house or you coming into the studio the first time. Yeah. Well, and also particularly Lanai. And they must know it. um because they're still like when do you move fast when do you slow down what you can get away No. Just slowly crawling, creeping and crawling. that fucking healthiest people on earth even the four seasons serves it yes those burgers man those axis deer burgers are sensational those

1:06:32 It was a grind. Yeah. So I was like 21. I was actually living down to expectations. So it was a slow grind, but I got to where I just kept doing more and more and more. like two DUIs in three weeks. but it was just like, most successful bow hunter on the planet earth i mean that's that's a giant i mean you have 800,000 kids to, to have more than they had and had a better life than they had. And so, you know,

1:11:02 I think he just turned eight, actually. it wasn't comfortable, but not, not a positive way. And I'm like, well, I think these kids, I thought he had a knee issue. There's no way I could have done that then. No, it's been gravy the whole time. in 12 hours on, on pace. Everything was good. And it's just too painful. He's like, I think he got You do it for 24 hours.

1:14:12 It's not Mexico. uh, 100 miles. I'm like, Hey, do you have a chip like that oh no no no no you only got that's like 644 that's fast miles for 26 that's fucking fast yeah so the world record they're At the end of the day, you have to run. What I found is nothing really helps. I feel healthy. it's a distraction that's just kind of you know the the exception rather than the rule

1:18:06 Running. If you can't get out and shoot a bow, it's like, come on. Shooting is just fun. It's running running that's the key to the discipline so um yeah it's you're doing something to your mind and then i open the gate he just jumps he leaves you could have that energy oh my god that would how that works that doesn't oh that's cam and oh there you right see that little thing marshall is

1:20:34 He's like, yeah, just let me know when you're done. he said i have to remind myself yeah he's uh he's a big sweetie a special dog i don't know if all I'm out there doing it. Right. Ugh. Licking their balls and shit. And then I pour some on his head, rub it on his head to cool him off a little bit. You could get him shaved like a lion. I'm like, it's my fucking dog.

1:23:20 Yeah, look at that. Keep that one right there. thoughts this fucking stupid rabbit yeah oh my god that's so cute i mean but what's interesting So, you know, the chicken wire fence? oh jesus christ mouth you reminded me what is this asshole doing he's playing with Did you see we just had a good old time killing chickens? Bloodbath. Did you see this? Oh, Jesus.

1:25:13 Yeah. One day. and come back to see blood and rabbit hair everywhere and then that guilty look on marshall I guess. Yeah. Yeah. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Yeah, me too. Yeah. No, and he's just out there keeping keeping the coyotes in check yeah murking all those deer and then they eat the rats, or the coyotes eat the rats, what happened um about the woman who had a farm she has a um an alpaca farm in in malibu and a

1:29:57 story short, we went down there, killed a bunch of goats. He had a concert that night, but I had Yeah. Yeah, and it was good. God, it was so good. My God, that's all they want. Yeah. But if you do like meat, you'd be like, wow, this is good. in it it's like it's just different but the way she does it in the tray girl or stir fry it's Yeah, yeah. I don't know if he – he shot when bow at all yeah i got him a bow has he been shooting uh i don't

1:33:41 love with their spirit it's like his spirit j Jocko's spirit, Courtney's spirit, their spirit. Yeah. He got better. Yeah. It's like, yeah, this is what happens. And I'm like, he took off. I asked a cameraman up there. he had a shirt off and he was, they don't know me, But that's real. Yeah. 17. Yeah. Shh. Come on, 23. You did it. It's like a whole, it's a different person that's unstoppable.

1:38:58 And then – so we went after that, and we went and watched UFC, got pizza and, uh, and it was getting late by that That's like, you know, take the night off. A hundred percent. have that a little piece of goggins piece of Goggins to get in that. yeah but now he realizes like there's you know there's a maintenance involved too yeah yeah you All this, I don't deserve shit.

1:42:02 I always say, I think somebody eventually is going to say what the what is this guy doing here and i'll be like well they figured it out everything like um it's called imposter syndrome what's that mean and it it when people have very He's a huge fan of yours. I feel like an imposter. I work hard. You know? well I would say the same about you man it means a lot to me to be a friend and to to learn bow

1:45:45 You go out to that wall out there and see all those elk heads, So a lot of people have been put in fortuitous situations that screw it up Like when I kill, I'm just like, well, I did what I do. have you be successful it's like god it means everything it means everything to me too man There's nothing like it. Yeah, I'm tonight too. show at the improv too oh nice so yeah beautiful thing about being in la is i can grind it out i

1:48:49 Yes. That's Mecca. This day has been like, I figured if I can die after today, I'm good. I don't know. And he shot, John Travolta shot an arrow at him. I mean, he looked pretty good with the bow. then jumped. It's pretty intense. Oh. Yeah. Apparently the new Rambo is unbelievably bad yeah we did rambo I want to see a 3 Hey, what happened? Oh, he hurt his ankle?

1:52:24 I was hoping he was going to be right there. You attack him before he draws. Yeah. Yeah, right here. Ah, the confidence. My kids did not like this movie. Uh-huh. Yeah, right here. With distractions, she's so focused. that's what i say the all the ones that i reviewed today that's the best that's the best yeah look at No, I mean there's Deliverance where he winds up hunting people.

1:55:39 and it's stopping an arrow it's not a pass-through excuse me yeah it's outrageous yeah sticks in Yeah, I typed in bow hunting movies, But isn't it interesting? with Paul Newman and Tom Cruise. So pool had two giant explosions where people really started going to pool halls. And just over. old bow, I believe was a Hoyt. and Rambo just stood up there just like,

1:58:17 Get the fuck out of here with this. She shoots, yeah. And Ivanka Trump. his phone really big ass bull yeah god i didn't see that yeah it's a great bull yeah wow huh Oh, shit. In the Olympics, it's no compound. She looks fucking super legit. Like, you're shooting off your fingers. Is this it? Look at her. Yeah, look at that. It seems, because like, you know, when you see Keanu Reeves and John Wick, you're like,

2:00:56 Like, I just started doing that recently at the same place where he learned. There's so much technique involved in it. I know. Hell of a shot. Super friendly guy. came in amazing three or four yards or whatever and then luckily they got to stop at like 18 or Odds are, yeah. I'm very excited. Everybody's on the grind. It was like, it was so fun. Yeah.

2:04:08 Everybody's obsessed with success and bow hunting. crazy i was watching that clip the other day like i said i watched when colton pulled out that tenderloin but i also watched that first i thought the bull was going to be dead 55 yards It's pretty special to be able to see it, though. Yeah. You did. is fleeting you got to keep grinding and it's like one failure seemingly wipes out years of success

2:07:00 And then your head is like, that's what I do. It's an athletic pursuit. such an overused term but it's a spiritual pursuit it is there's something very spiritual didn't feel real i'm like standing over that thing it's like this real it doesn't feel real know i mean that's why i always say like you know someone's someone asked me once way yeah and i think anything that's difficult difficult pursuits

2:10:28 But don't think about it too much. Because you can, I mean, you got to prove it every time. Because the struggle is so evident. It's the same thing I like about a lot of things that are absolute. You don't release it right. no they're not cutting anybody a break right it's they're wild animals in the mounds and you just you're going to be so in tune where it feels like that and that's that's what the bow in

2:13:08 There's arrows in there. Apparently they have a barred up now because there's people who steal I know. bulls there what how could i ever be the guy who gets out there it's like never never thought that I mean they're just special animals. He was explaining this to me. Yeah. it's in tahone ranch oh really yeah that's why they're so big well those are giant too yeah it's also you know they don't have a winter like they do in the mountains of like utah or colorado

2:16:33 something like that and everything's quiet yeah and then all of a sudden a couple months later And, you know, you'd have these massive herds of Buffalo and deer were everywhere and elk amazing to see what it looked like though yeah yeah i mean that's kind of what we're that's why Man. And that was, Yeah. 15, Yeah. and killed bulls like that especially her.

2:19:45 right now where people are getting into certain activities when you're a woman because it gets she's because if i was a girl i'd be a whore i would have a like a fucking glittery bikini on of people respecting you but also being attracted to you it's like for girls like they have to they just being friends with you and dudley it's cut down my learning curve by decades you know just

2:22:36 No, it's huge. So it's like, but it feels good to, like I said, when seeing you successful is everything. And then when you find it, you're like, I'm not going to screw this up. They tell two people and so on. to hunt the wilderness had never done it he knew i had done it actually maybe it was shay man who You can be in there by first light, opening day.

2:25:48 And he made it all the way in there. did a great job. Yes. So he's one of the most, I mean, I respect him as much as anybody. Yeah. I'll be there that night, Saturday night. who knows and then maybe there's no western hunter yeah yeah who knows i mean it's it's but as a I can grind through this. lesson i mean it's probably one of the most important lessons taking advantage it did did

2:28:54 Oh, you told me that story. But he, anyway, he got it on film. Cam, let's wrap this up. All right.