Joe Rogan Experience #1369 — Christopher Ryan Transcript

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0:00 and now the official hello hello chris ryan hello officially what's going on buddy how are you A sprinter van that you have a bed in and a cooler and a freezer, that's kind of like a backpack for an older slightly richer dude you know that's I'm not a legal expert. feel like they have to make a certain number of arrests. And how do they fill those prisons that are, you know,

2:47 Like what kind of laws do you think? But everyone I know except for Joe. Yeah. Jamie, you're the best, man. go to starbucks and it's an unsecure or the airport that's there you go open for that purpose Yeah, about the terms and conditions that you accept. He was talking about what's actually happening now And then, you know, this is their business model.

5:47 saying like, you know, I'll give you the war, you know, you give me the war, I'll sell the I do not know. that yeah let's get rid of that you can be evil what a weird thing to both have and then weirder Yeah. you know trying to make any sense of putting 300 million of us together on a lot on island based on these books. What's the altitude? I was smoking a joint.

8:34 She's different. just said like you're beautiful or something she's like like, ah, get away. It's muy guapa. The story has everything. Remember that? People have, with multiple personality disorder, the research is bizarre. How much is psychosomatic? has any idea what's happening right how does that work like oh two things are attracted real touchy about it

12:14 can't just take it from the machine you cannot shame charlie sheen um but we had this conversation We know that hypnosis, people can have open heart surgery under hypnosis or have limbs amputated or all sorts of amazing things with no anesthesia whatsoever. ability that differs uh it's another thing that differs among people and stanley actually has a

13:50 have been a very adaptive um characteristic in prehistoric societies whereas in contemporary that helps it to heal. is the football player Herschel Walker. Yeah. It's very so widely. Makes sense. then the way it adapts and molds to things is so bizarre. Um, It's really, They eat grass. and they start to transform, and not over generations, individuals.

18:31 Locusts. the brain and you know who you are and what identity is and all that and this i was reminded I mean, people that live in small towns are so different than people that live in cities. The locust thing is amazing. The Native Americans ate them. they've they had them fried and we were staying at a resort in, where was it? And I was like, all right, I'll try that.

20:54 I don't remember what it's called. Yeah, that's it. No, I just, I know the word. It's a good place Deep in the heart of Texas Shrimp, lobster The dude was allergic to shellfish and he had to eat roaches for this thing. Yeah. with someone who has a peanut allergy. Like some people's peanut allergy are so bad that people will ask you to not eat peanuts on a plane with someone

23:03 setup where the person could see so like you and i are talking across the table and there was a it was a setup where the person could see so like you and i Wow. Look at that. You could probably picture the surface of Mars, too. we spend so much time worrying about things most of which never occur yeah you know and even the like a sandcastle yeah yeah you can make it beautiful but it's not gonna last yeah it's

25:55 I've never bought that line of reasoning. i'm like no man i'm staying in bed like you you go do what you need to do i used to climb mountains I'm not married to my perspective But I think I have Like man if I don't run every day It's like we did, you know, last October, we did the Sober October thing where we had this crazy fitness challenge. It does feel really good.

28:55 I'm half a mile into it, and I'm like, fuck this. 5k i was like jesus christ this is hard like i didn't have and there was no good feeling at all And then when the workouts are over, like I run all the time now. he named it stoli. Bad sign right there. No. give he'd probably prefer that make you more interesting yeah it's but the the runner's high Oh, okay.

32:12 guy in my podcast recently who's like a legend in the the world of uh like high risk stuff he's a stuff and like he just had done this thing where he's paragliding with another dude But this guy was so calm. and that's his uh his falcon he's got this falcon as well right when i was starting to love him yeah Yeah, he's gone. He's lost enough friends that he's not thinking that way anymore.

35:29 Mob mentality. You know, like, Jim, you nodded. We won in a very close game, undefeated season for Ohio State, three other streets then it started up again the street i was on seven cars got flipped over i think and lit on fire so violence is that when when something's in the air right air and you see like a big brawl going on, it's like everything seems – it seems like civilization is flimsy.

38:33 you see it in these fucking when whenever you see like uh uh like an antifa versus proud boys type Like you would never assume that these folks would be violent to you. nice house and he'd moved into the neighborhood for the first time, A girl did something to a guy. it happened i was there god i wish i could remember memory Memory is so sucky. You know, it really is.

41:06 But I remember the feeling in the air. great woods is a place in mansfield massachusetts was like this concert venue and uh neil young was i i always kept a hoodie with me because i you know i was getting like nine dollars an hour or And as I was leaving, as I was quitting, I was watching people just beat the fuck out think about these dudes who you know come back from war with ptsd you know again it's this

43:23 No, no one knows how to do it. But at least that. I had a guy on the podcast. Actually, the one Jamie showed us right before the wingsuit dude was a dude who had been in Iraq. And then he came back and worked as a SWAT team commander. So he was doing all sorts of really heavy stuff. And then he just got out. And now he's living off-grid in Idaho, raising three little boys with his wife.

44:51 yeah it's it's hard and and yeah like like we were just saying that they get very little just we just figure it out like i'm pretty confident if it was just the three of us forever Yeah. accident and die because that hoarding selfish behavior is extremely taboo in a hunter-gatherer But that's how business works in New York. Well, it seems to be what we evolved to sort of be accustomed to, right?

48:52 And then they went and looked at people, i did the audiobook of civilized today which i really enjoyed that process i'm thinking i might Right. That's what you do when someone takes it and just puts it in quotes like that. Yeah, that's a good move. of do whatever you want and you could even talk about how you feel now about that chapter. uncovered versus before.

51:58 And then Johnny Depp reads a couple of chapters, and then Keith comes back at the end. That's a fantastic speech, but the way Johnny Depp said it was better. Alex? Oh, my God. there where i could have you could have yeah fuck yeah there's a few people dick gregory he's one Not only had it not been seen publicly, I believe Time Magazine owned it. Really?

54:41 Are you into him? There's a fucking moment in that film where the sheriff, interesting intense guy and very dark sense of humor oh yeah yeah yeah well that's why i thought Because the real bear experts were like, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. And he was walking through the woods holding this camcorder, getting film, going, if I was gay, it would be so easy.

56:53 But he's saying it like, why can't I find a girl? That would be hilarious. There's actually a bear bar? Gay guys. great intellect and a big heart he's and honesty yeah he's changed the world he's saved who knows important than the the integrity of yourself but i don't think it hurts you i don't believe it That's the – like, a gay woman, like Jodie Foster, okay, could easily play a straight woman in a movie and no one would care.

59:56 But if he was, that's where the buck stops. Yeah. like a movie it's horseshit you know you know it's horseshit everyone knows it's horseshit I always assumed he was because he was so overcompensating with The Fonz. He plays an acting coach in Barry. Fly fishing is a very weird pursuit because a lot of it is catch and release. So it just goes into this cartilage in their mouth they don't really feel.

1:02:43 area where the fish is lying dormant and then Yeah, yeah, on Hawaii, Big Island. Yeah, I was into it. So first I went on that trip with, yeah, Peter. Anyway, so he knew all these people, and I guess Aubrey and some other, amazing right but i didn't hunt on that because i didn't honestly i didn't want to um hurt anything Right. things without them jumping but if you can get your stalking skills down or you can sneak up on

1:06:41 I don't know if you know him. That was, you know, I wanted to have the experience because I'd never hunted. What part? implying here if you're not really good the chances of you of an elk running off or a pig yeah so that's a good spot if you're looking and also you're taking a life you take an elk that's Right. You know, you have a life here that's really you've built over a lot of time.

1:10:16 What is it good for? Love it. Definitely. i'm a human being and i've done but you cop to it when you do which i think is another thing that's like you admit when you fuck up like you had someone that the twitter guy on and you're like be pretending you're cooler than you are i think uh part of being a human being is making mistakes But you also have to be able to forgive yourself.

1:14:30 fucking engine like what do i stick it on let me stick a thing in there and i could drill a hole 52. It's like I'm finally figuring this shit out and i'm almost 60 well i remember when i was Wow, I'm going to be so old. and i i spend time particularly in utah in the mountains the the places we go. It's just, it's cleansing in a way that is so hard to describe.

1:17:06 civilized to live now available at all your local bookstores and amazon and all that other stuff I haven't, but a friend of mine has a house there, and I saw a picture of the water. I smelled great, because every morning I jumped in a river. Yeah. Insane. oh yeah and he took oh bill burr yeah yeah yeah he took me around his helicopter that's pretty

1:19:15 and you can go wherever you want. so you don't want to forget how many people fly drunk? Yeah I bet they do Nothing Right look drunk all the time and babies yeah yeah i mean that is a that's that's a great way to I want to stay right there. So you're at a different level. If they knew you. resentment there's a there's a lot of weird resentment that people develop when they listen

1:22:00 You owe them something. Yeah. face they recognize but they don't know the dude right so it's a different kind of thing i really a float conference with duncan yeah it was great oh my god that sounds perfect yeah oh that's Between 50 and 100. Yeah. or sell t-shirts t-shirts or you know in my case uh tickets to shows that would work right i'm gonna Yeah.

1:26:10 like 100 bucks like it's weird it's weird but then there's also a lot of like craft restaurants and So Detroit, like a bunch of Detroit-made things could be exciting for people. They make a bunch of other stuff too, like bags, leather goods, things things along those lines but one of the things they proudly say is made in detroit old building that was made way way way back in the day and they said that when it was first made

1:28:15 Nice. Food's great. Amazing. It's the one country I'm comfortable recommending to You went recently. Yeah, last summer. It's like, people are so nice. Food's great. Amazing. You know, I wouldn't recommend India lodging the best food in the world yeah as far as i'm concerned it's i love spicy food so to me it's in this rice patties and this kid just ran up and punched her in the back and then ran off

1:30:59 Yeah. Yes. Chiapas, way down south on the border with Guatemala. and it slowed me down. I had this email from Duncan. And after, he's like, oh, you you know i'd love to introduce you to my joe rogan's podcast i'm like dude how how do you know Duncan's friend Joe, right? And you were like, so what did you do, Google me? and he was super into Sex at Dawn, and then we were going to do a movie together and whatever.

1:35:13 mine and i'm like oh shit i should have said his name and the whole thing yeah and then i left no issues at all It's like I've been there I was talking to Red Band Brian Brian Red Band, about this. feeling every time we did the podcast was oh my god what have we done and you'd be in the middle bad things and food and sleep there's pros and cons and then the cons become very

1:38:06 just part of life it's like olive oil it's on everything that's funny because i just saw a here like every cafe serving wine and beer and whatever you just sell it it's everywhere yeah But Barcelona, the Catalans are sort of dry, very self-contained people. I've been out of the loop today. It's heating up. Oh, interesting. looking for all the time is actually home right i feel like as a species we're at the point in that

1:41:58 They're just government, Wall Street, religion. in a moment of massive global change. many women have yeah where they have that biological clock it's telling them to have a resonated he said not only has it changed how much I love? It changed my capacity for love. With a man, you do what you always do. beings you see the whole thing yeah i looked at them i was like oh that was a baby yeah christopher

1:45:43 I've been around kids. And very rarely all three of those. Well, for some people it is. You know, some people it is. time because of bills and horse shit and then work politics and work dynamics and dealing with the I need you to be here after work. No. Sure. You know, like one of the things that I love doing in my podcast is meeting somebody who's never told their story before and never even thought of their life in terms of a narrative.

1:48:38 I'm not talking about romantic love. who were you know and I'm like I have sleep apnea that's why I wanted to mention it I got one of those machines. I mean, you have the full face one that goes over your nose and your mouth if you tend to breathe through your mouth or they have them that just go over your nose just that little extra push and uh it's totally quiet like there's all this stigma around it like

1:52:02 That's all you need? and there's this weird kind of shame around it and i'm just trying to be like yeah it's a weird and i said hey man and i said do you know you have sleep apnea he's like what do you mean Heart disease. I should not have eaten. Yeah. your whole life your whole life solves the problem yeah you know like that's pretty cool it's pretty

1:55:31 Yeah. Kyle Tierman Show, he's a podcast as well. It's like, all right. that are doing the most to fuck Mother Earth. Yeah. Yeah. this incredible bit where they they were uh incestuous brother sister couple yeah yeah uh but the Nell Newman Foundation, Same place? Yeah, he wants to do it, but it depends. I love him to death. He's one of my favorite people doing two shows tonight he's i like that guy i love him

1:59:05 i don't know anybody who's full of shit like i don't know anybody who's doing a podcast who's It helps you like slip on in. And what's it all boil down to? There has to be some actual meat behind their words. Yeah, it's like buying a membership to a gym and then never going. The spiral ones. If you're lucky. fire without a lighter also when civilization ends you're not going to want to live yeah yeah

2:02:51 I guess there are some sorts of antelope, rabbits, rats, desert rats. Macawk. this goddamn rat down and eating it head first it's a hell of an image fucking a right yeah Who cares? frosting and looking right at you. The crocodiles are a trip, man, because we were in a boat, hey hey hey let's stay over here let's stay in the middle the fuck away from the monsters

2:06:07 And he drove down there. And he hears this plop, plop. And he's swimming along, trying not to panic. they do well the crocodiles alligators are less aggressive than crocodiles. And there are crocodiles in Florida, but they're much less frequent. No. Saltwater crocodiles Like, oh, that's a person. Yeah. Because they were almost always still. The marshmallows float, I guess?

2:09:58 Like you can get a commercial hunting tag for 500 alligators. all the raccoons are missing all all the all the marsh hares gone everything's missing like Billions. And they found the real numbers In your stand up I had three of them in Spain So I had them outside. Those owls are a motherfucker. that you play dead with a grizzly but never with a black.

2:13:05 it depends on how hungry they are and whether or not they're old but you are more likely to And the black bear decided to try to go after him. Throwing, waving his arms. Yeah. I was with my girlfriend at the time. monkeys they're everywhere and that's when we realized like all the local people had these big like moves you know sort of does this thing and he's looking at me and there's a branch.

2:16:13 And this monkey just looked at the branch land in front of him and looked up screaming and we're like 10 feet away and then he just like backed up like yeah fuck you and left Always good to see you, brother. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was.