Joe Rogan Experience #137 — Tim Ferriss Transcript
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0:00 Run the music! And people really love that. There's nothing wrong with you at all. There's something wrong with you. You can't say you have OCD, dude. I am the master of the universe! and he was bored. We found another link. I went through all that boring shit. to teach you this nonsense. that back in the day And so I was like, okay. But I found a way.
4:02 No. into practice pretty cool that makes sense that seems like a lot better approach than uh just Really? This is going to be good. I don't believe they taught us sex ed. I really don't. I don't think I did in Massachusetts. I don't believe they taught us sex ed. Not a fucking peep. Do you remember that? Do you know about this? years and years on this shit and made documentaries about it had a website dedicated to it and then
7:19 Imagine the stress and, like, obligation to society are like, no, no, no. that ghosts were real. He's so smart make fun of me was because of a lab called the scientific anomalies laboratory. And he was talking about, for example, with the remote viewing, for people who don't know what it is, you have a transmitter who goes out with a field team. It wasn't, I think it was a gas station.
9:21 Doesn't the government employ a bunch of people to... There's like Sarnoff International, a bunch of research institutes that have been funded by the government for that particular purpose. And so they ran thousands and thousands and thousands of trials and changes the way they interact and became land animals. They're going to figure out a way to do everything that you and I do in the gym
11:52 That's what's going to happen. GH and anabolics and different things post-surgery, among other times. But the most fascinating thing Yeah. Vitamin D. there are definitely places to do that. Uh, you know, watch the dosages. Cause if you have organ What this is, it's genetic manipulation at a very base level. It's like, we're just adding chemicals that don't,
14:13 Or it could be that they took steroids and they shocked the fucking shit out of their You don't go to a doctor. testosterone really can be a really nasty combo. And they're dangerous guys, too. It makes my vagina hard. By the time we, you know know grow old and die they're her ass started sticking out and she started turning into a young woman again she was a 50
16:57 That marriage is threatened from both ends Like a hot body. you could be 20 again. Why? like she had all the behaviors of an 80 year old yeah i wonder if she was super hot but still using Just, you know, obviously a little more experienced but yeah you would right you wouldn't be that would dragging him out you motherfucker you know my cousin is yeah there's
20:04 about anything else. So the simplest, uh, the simplest approach, and this has been looked at for a decade or more, Very low, like five grams. Where did the rumor come from? Yeah, but then here's what happens is then people substitute, let's say at one point for your liver it's like I'm like oh it is I gained like five pounds of muscle You actually get physically larger
21:52 Do you know about TA65? So this is related to sort of chromosomal aging. like the shorter your telomeres are, and then combining that with creatine and a few other things. He said he didn't feel like it was doing anything for him. No. because they don't exhibit any of the normal signs of aging that's the next thing, lobster oil. I'm sitting there with Eddie Bravo, and we're both going,
25:03 I've had enough to drink. was one of my all-time favorites. I've heard this God, it wasn't there. Yeah, about the guys who sneak into the World Trade Center It's awesome. Oh, my God. the sort of singularity focused or just life extension focused uh tech ceos guys who've made There's always levels above. You were just playing with blocks in kindergarten.
27:53 And how we go, look at these fucking retards Because the life extension, I think that whether it's... idea what if you infuse the common cold with lsd so that people, as people, was that your idea or Duncan's? Maybe it's something naturally occurring like 5-MeO-DMT or something like that as opposed I think that you do need a very small amount. acid, you know,
30:21 consciousness leaves your body and Enlightenment. I knew people that died there. It just, you get this non-feeling and friendly environment, you know? I hope this sticks. in New York. to blow firefighters are all fired up you know because for a while firefighters were fucking rock stars in new york and then eventually just fucking died off and you got a few fucking older
32:55 Right? The gay community capitalizes on things like that. semi-coherent to watch people make sure they can handle their weed too you know why everybody just always have a sitter you always have somebody who's smoking pot or otherwise semi coherent to is there's this afterglow effect uh afterglow effect of supreme Probably a combination of two, I've just started with a visual.
35:16 This was a few months ago. get in there it's not going to hurt you. But if you're used to like ju Jitsu for example. of those things where once you've been doing Jiu Jitsu We're reacting to the pillow on our neck. water on my dick and then it's gonna itch some more it takes a long time it takes a bunch of like the isolation tank to enhance super powered, man. In a way that it's
38:26 All right, all I am is just some dude who has one who uses it. You've got to get in there. No question about it. They make the best equipment. is he's got this screen that he's developed for use above the isolation tank and speakers So literally the image is just floating in space in front of you with no other distractions. There's none of that in there.
40:49 i want to explore possible directions of consciousness whether or not you can control I'm more than willing to admit that I don't know, because the placebo effect is a phenomenal I'm not even close to waking up. Like this is weird because a lot of times I'd be in the middle Yes. It's more active. That definitely will help. We sold out of all of our orders in the first couple of weeks of August.
44:07 or if I'm promoting something, I feel it does something to me. And one of them, vasopressin, is used as an anti-diuretic hormone in kids. If they're older and I could literally take two shots, one in each nostril, It's very, very short. but vasopressin, my understanding is that it is a hormone that is necessary for short-term memory. Ebbinghaus curve and all of that. So, uh, Pimsleur, if people are interested, Pimsleur is the guy who
47:28 So I think I'm, I might make, this is Vimpocetine right here, which is in this. Give me that. You seem so in touch with your body that you know everything. as my word per minute rate goes through the roof. We've got a lot happening. It's a good choice. you're invested in athletics and knowledge and experience. And you have a bunch of different is really that person when you first start dating them? Especially guys, we're completely
50:48 What the fuck, bro? Why cut yourself short, bro? run into and this is one of them. This is what you come across like. And then you say date a bunch of different women. relationships, people will call you a piece in bikinis straddled on the hood? are you selling me here man you're selling me pussy the you talk too smart you don't have enough flavor in your voice i've masked it i'm from
53:14 I listened to myself on TV when I was 19 years old. we obviously imitate our environment. Fair enough. but the writing part was totally accidental. Really? Yeah. I mean, I use a lot of vocabulary in a few places, but the writing part was pages, too, if you can believe it. Yeah, there's like 600 And I just wanted to have that impact on other people.
55:28 I would just write down whatever I was thinking to go back to sleep. It wasn't to keep the notes. And then 26 publishers turned it down, and 27th one took it. fatally flawed, both financially, sort of numerically. and then also it's assuming you will live a long time, like you would apply it to a company if you were a CEO and you can jack up your productivity. Uh, that's the premise of
57:40 assess which is the better method. And I just started applying that same type of split When you're measuring celery, looking for the Chinese method, just chop that shit up, dude. Both my parents worked, dual-income family, and they didn't have a lot of money for all sorts of trips and things like that, So I remember I got really into fish and sharks more specifically. So my mom bought me this really
59:46 Has it ever backfired when it comes to chicks? it's a terrible habit and once you start I'm fascinated by people, and so I'll look at them. Me too. And I mean, I think that I could, I mean, I can get high. I try to time it when I wake up so that it hits my bloodstream But I try, I recognize It's actually something I realized that Schwarzenegger does,
1:02:31 So I try to set one hour in the morning to at least focus on one of those two to-dos That's the 4-Hour Body. And what I did is I pretty much took Weight Watchers and I cut out all the bullshit. Is that dangerous? so that you're in ketosis for five or six days, then you carbohydrate load for 24 hours but I try to cut back way back on my bread and pastas.
1:05:06 what kind of energy my body has. Yeah, and so you have, I think, on both extremes. I take the paleo suits. and they're not shamed into crying with product placement, Because you can't fill an hour or whatever it is, half hour even, So I did actually see one where they had these morbidly obese people with weighted sleds it? And then they really fuck their thyroid.
1:07:35 Ghost boobies. Your ass has railroad tracks on it, you know, out of nowhere. Like some people just don't get stretch marks. That totally makes sense. because you're obsessed with getting them. people. Because to be super successful at a lot of things, there's a certain amount of bulldog aggression or bull you And that was the beginning of the end. I ate seven times that in about 12 hours and to show that I could prevent myself from getting fat,
1:10:57 Then you have calories out, exercise. I mean, that's the equivalent of taking like methamphetamine. improves uh among other insulin sensitivity but also the rate of fat loss. Well, it'll definitely make you look like less of Ron Jeremy with an ice bath, afterwards. I would actually take a hot shower afterwards. do the you do the hot shower to finish and that's supposed to help flush out debris and and uh
1:13:43 And I had a bunch of different therapies to fix that. You're whipping your legs around these crazy, unnatural motions I tore my sartorius. He lives actually around here. Scott Mendelson. guy. No big surprise there. Oh, my God. I'm so careful as I get older about warming up and getting really loose before I do anything. But then I started getting real sports massages from someone who's a strength coach at Purdue.
1:16:21 It gets pretty rough. found to help a lot with muscular injuries is either Arnica, I don't know exactly the mechanism of action, but it really works for, like, musculo-connective issues. went immediately to Whole Foods, got a bunch of bags of ice for an ice bath and bought a bunch Like, you're really going to feel it the next day. In this particular case, my concern was just addressing the inflammation and stiffness so I could train the next day.
1:19:02 Or people don't like that. Just fix it. So getting stem cells at a younger age to bank so that you can use them later if you want to get like a, Have you done that? Like drilling through the hip. well, maybe you want to consider looking at skin or blood, something like that. I think they're setting themselves up for a fasting bargain so it was thought to be very good for eyesight, the history of, of, uh, let's say beta carotene. So it was found to be good for, well,
1:21:54 yeah yeah i was really doing that too yeah also probably not good first date conversation just Once you've had sex and they've been around your loads, then you're allowed to bring up your loads. with his girl peeing all over the place no it just started it's g-spot orgasms i think is what And he called me at like 4 in the morning at one point. This was the first time they had sex, and he was just so traumatized by this, like,
1:23:56 That's awesome. That'd be crazy. It seems like it is, though. Why do girls allow that? It's just sheer I'm not nearly as organized as you are It's almost like 100% of them have been molested. How do you look at internet porn and things along those lines? of documentary or any type of You're right. Like if you're in Dubai or something like that? And how do you get it? Is it a software program? It's a free software
1:27:09 Oh, I don't think so. to whack off in your cubicle now did you hear hear MSNBC got hacked yesterday by the hackers, Yeah. Either that or someone at that particular newspaper is shorting Apple. That would be pretty easy to do at this point in time. They're defending his boss like King B. Just constant every day, six, seven days a week, all day long.
1:29:53 of stresses, which are definitely biochemical events, carbohydrate intake. So there's a great and spoke with this doctor who presented at TED, William Lee, L.I., out the refined carbohydrates six days a week. Then I go ballistic one day a week. You have a But it was hilarious being around him on Sunday. And they'll still have fun. you get past that point pretty quickly. But for people who are very phobic of diets of any type,
1:32:19 Really? Why would that be that your body just realizes that it has to kind of deal with that every now and again, It's cool. So you'd use like a quinoa or yams, root vegetables, things like that to jack up your calories then you don't want to be getting like table sugar is a terrible choice. Like fruit sugar will, will mess up your, your, your, yeah. Lots of the convection of sugar. But fruit sugar won't have the same issues? Fruit sugar will mess up your carb up.
1:34:03 Waxy Maize, say that? It's going to have probably some glucose, but also it probably has sucrose in it. I would start with the fastest and then move out to the slowest, depending on the ratio. so much the carving up but like cutting for weight classes. I think it fucked up my, I think it screwed up my, some of my feedback loops in the body. because of dehydration.
1:36:44 the Jiu-Jitsu championships. and a lot of people believe in that they think that the way Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's not much. They're doing saline bag drips with electrolytes and so forth. which, of course, compounds the problem, and almost all of them have been men cutting weight. the really bad injuries like Gerald McClellan. It's weight cutting. that perhaps you just don't get if you're a heavyweight and you get hit once and you just...
1:39:50 actually become sick with Lou Gehrig's disease. It's not a lot. We're just now coming to terms with how dangerous head trauma is. That would be amazing. It's horrible. Step in. I was just saying, even watching some of the recreational MMA guys, yeah and he's exhausted when you talk to him you know and he's got black eyes so you just assume Among the MMA fighters that you've met or interacted with or just know of,
1:42:57 always stays to the game plans. Very hard worker. fighting five five minute rounds you gotta train man you gotta train everything you gotta But nowadays, it's getting to that point where you just have to always be fit. Do you live up there? Dude, that's awesome. Very, very smart guy. The fundamentals are so important in jiu-jitsu. a language, in my opinion.
1:46:02 And that's what it's like when you're in a grappling match with someone who doesn't No, you're not going to. i'm going to tap you now and you can just start laughing and laughing because, like, that's actually kind of funny. rolling with him is like, he's a master. you're doing chopsticks and he's playing beethoven with six arms oh yeah you know it's like you can't
1:47:57 I'm not trading any stocks. And part of the reason was I was like, of course not. I mean, Marcelo. And he's a very good roller. Searching for Bobby Fisher about the chess prodigy. You think you're a little fucking retard It's a trick. one move at a time and then could jump forward three moves. It's such a game for thinkers, too. They would say, you know, knight to queen five or whatever the fuck it is.
1:51:04 checkmate them left and right out of the air wow it was fucking So, I mean the, you know, don't go for submission. Or what is it? Position before submission. I'm scared of it. tv and they're like oh you're one of these guys who's like oh i don't watch tv i'm like no no And then that's going to lead me to whatever, you know, six feet under. Ari and I went to dinner last night at Denny's after we did the Ice House.
1:53:27 What was my point? What was I talking about? I'm sorry if I call you dorks if you're a podcast fan the moment they look up and realize I'm staring eating moons over my hammy Not Magic for me. he's been doing it all day and so dungeons and no no about all sorts of other stuff and he kept And so I rolled, and I just killed this character. He's actually really successful in New York City.
1:55:37 Imagine just like. You were sitting behind him poking him while he was in... Yeah, but violence... You don't know the story. You were annoying him and you wouldn't stop so he stabbed you in the hand with a pen. Headshot would have been really aggressive. God damn it. He's an eventual capitalist in And he goes, show me a bad loser and I'll show you a fucking loser.
1:57:22 Yeah, I guess, but you don't have to be like that's just i mean for every yeah for every uh stereotype that you have in a given There's a funny episode of one of those kitchen shows like oh i'm being ridiculous don't talk to me like that stupid and then they separated him and Oh, you weren't set up for a reply. people are supposed to hit you. Like, all of a sudden,
1:59:13 yeah i'm amazed that society keeps it together as well as it does the electricity is almost And in San Francisco, of course, it's, among other things, earthquake. or something like that. It was so small. and take your water. You get a special badge. So hypothetically, if you were to want to evacuate during this type of emergency, Now you can go off, you can go off the deep end and start doing crazy, crazy stuff, but.
2:01:37 to hold the backup chips So I think I'm getting this right, and Google would tell us quickly, So you wouldn't even necessarily have to drop it. Oh, nice. these eccentric, If I'm going to live in San Francisco on the ring of fire. vicinity. South Korea has just developed They've developed it. to realizing that, you know, for a couple hundred bucks, Yeah.
2:05:07 The cock besides the Mitchell brothers. I went to the Farallon Islands once. San Francisco, it would be immediate access Yeah, I'm about to blow up the thing. so you have 800,000 even in Up in Marin. uh or have kids i'm not sure about the married part then i can see marin very clearly being an It's interesting how some spots are just like way better places to live, man.
2:08:12 or the billionaire. I love it. But he told me a story. That's hilarious. Yeah, flat front. I brought it home, I turned it on and I landed on that and I was just like in South Africa? Oh my lord. Why don't you marry them? If you really want to go out there, it's pretty shitty conditions, just saw a guy get bitten in half by a great white shark. And then people just go right back out.
2:11:32 I mean, in the sense that it's world-class surfing, There's a place called Recife in Brazil where I went to visit at one point, And it's like a guy with one arm still surfing. just like Komodo dragons or they're like, you think you could kill this animal or that I'd kick the fuck out of a badger. Komodo dragon? Would you take a Komodo dragon on? and then follow them. They wait for the
2:14:01 take a water buffalo, they bite him, and then they Only one island Yeah I did. Yeah, it's enormous. Yeah. Can you imagine at 21 feet how big that is? Yeah, and they all wrapped this fucking thing up. cross between a wild boar and a feral hog and pigs a lot of people don't realize this, but pigs are one of the strangest animals known to be in captivity
2:16:15 you can pat him on the head a nice piggy piggy when that pig goes out into the woods his nose You know that, random side note, but... Really good book, but it talks about the evolution of mankind. And hominids or homo sapiens develop that nuchal ligament They recently found some proto-hominid that existed as recently Here's the thing they figured out recently in Saudi Arabia.
2:18:43 Oh, I have heard of this. Why are these on these things? Someone had buried it. It's amazing. It's all written in their hieroglyphs. It's all a matter of how did you push them. How did you do that? years ago? 6,000 years ago Oh, for sure. It's almost inevitable. But what about giant things that happen? how many little baby ones along the way, Oh, yeah. You know? I mean, if we're having trouble tracking the evolution of our own species,
2:23:21 That's just the cycle. Everybody moves here. Because this is a place that was created just a few lifetimes ago, really. The people are like, fuck where you're at, get in a boat, come on over here. Is it possible that, When Bush won the second term this crazy assholes of mass destruction and they shove all what doesn't scare me about China is China's not trying to
2:26:22 that you live there and it's like They're just breathing in coal in the air. for the first time, and they're buying, they're very And because of the range from tropics like Iguazu Falls in Brazil, which borders Argentina, I think that democracy does have weaknesses, and one of them is oftentimes speed. snap their fingers and make it happen. We had a guy here the other day, Pinchbeck, also believe that society is going to collapse 100%.
2:28:47 They just happen. How do you know that we're not going to get hit How the fuck can you tell me society's 100% going to collapse? but what are they doing about it? Yeah, a really smart guy. in the field, that anthill might have been there for a year. Those ants might have been He shits on it. I mean, really. kilometers wide. happened was six hundred thousand years ago oops so we literally do and they have thousands of
2:31:56 into the fucking sky and everyone dies. I would say you need to train yourself to recognize what's in your control, advisor to the emperor, as well as philosopher of his day. body and the videos that you put online. I think you're doing an awesome thing, man. And anybody And if anybody wants to follow Tim on Denver, Colorado, that's September 16th.
2:34:11 And then Houston, Texas just went on sale Should be a fun one. Thanks to the Fleshlight. And it's, by the way, it's 100% money-back guarantee. That's the end. and what is your website? train your long