Joe Rogan Experience #1370 — Brian Grazer Transcript

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0:00 All right, here we go. What's up, Brian? How are you? Perfect. Sounds perfect. So that was kind of the end product of the first book, which was, it was called A Curious Mind, The Secret to a Bigger Life. I had dyslexia, quite acute dyslexia. say I can't read and then that didn't make sense. It just didn't, around the fourth, fifth, sixth grade, I really looked at people.

3:11 But it enabled me to learn a lot just by looking at people and talking to people. things i'd go great you have a gift for gab she'd say and and every time she said you're gonna go I never, I'm pretty militant. Something possibly similar to this It wasn't fixable. Do you mean with sentences or with words? But incidentally, when you have dyslexia, it's very hard to learn other languages.

6:22 mechanism that's causing you to do right to left like do they know what the cause of this is not that i know of not that i know Sit down with you. Because so many times when people get that successful, you insulate yourself with a bunch of other people who do all the calls for you and open all the doors for you and you just kind of you stay insulated and more aloof yeah well thank you

8:34 relate to me. And I always did everything to create a democratic environment because not that I was such a cool guy, but more like you just get so much more out of a creative person But I always say I'm in the feelings business. So you arrange basically a podcast that no one's listening to. i'd say 15 was nothing i just did it because I felt like that could inhibit somebody or I felt like I was trying to do these sort of down low in a way.

11:07 Or, you know, or I mean, I have so many people, you know, just Margaret Thatcher. sheldon glasgow who converted the four forces of nation uh uh of of nature to three and i brought To organize this to get them to say yes or It's like your volume of you talking is the same level in my ears as it is in your ears. I thought about that with so many different people that I've had a chance to talk to.

13:51 I agree. I reach out to meet people that are expert at many different things that I don't do, of course. contagious yeah it's the kind of energy that those people exude yeah it is it's uh inspirational too Did we say his last name right? Yeah, one of the greatest jiu-Jitsu masters of all time. You have it right. Yeah. Because I don't really think of it, you know, these sort of creative puzzles that way.

17:02 Loved it. I don't have to be the primary album that's on the screen. He did, you know, When was the last time Jay-Z put out something that was shit? And it's going to be in Love Park, and we're calling it Made in America. And I said, what is this about? concert. Wow. who i really wanted to meet you know that navy the navy seal that uh uh created seal team six and

21:19 So you would fly to them? If I could integrate it or assimilate it, I would then do it. Yeah. just talking and like those those are rare moments where you're not distracted error yes yes oh yeah the value of human error that's a great way of putting it because it's sometimes some of the it's not exactly human error but human error for sure but you know it's often

24:25 at things yes exactly yeah it's enlightening sure yeah because sometimes you think that's as far as jiu-jitsu yeah and jiu-jitsu there's the physical element as well which is a big part of it physical Right. like when you use that when you said you don't want to get exhausted or get yeah you that probably He goes, okay, there's a very good chance I'm going to get caught in the impact zone.

27:09 Yeah, you got to be able to keep it together You don't necessarily get nervous with jujitsu that much unless you're in a competition. race car but you can actually add horsepower to the race car through discipline and you can add In jiu-jitsu. Yeah, that makes so much sense. It's not what she does for a living, but she trains, and she loves the community of people.

30:02 never even heard of that before i will will email you exactly what happened to her. You would think multiple strokes. She's fully recovered? But we've – my wife and I have sort of helped her with tough love like you can do it, that kind of a stuff. She's an actual therapist with, you know, like patients. um curious what i'm really curious part of the title of your book yeah so in the kid so that was

32:43 The L.A. police chief. I think there were three of them, and he was one of the three in a century. And Daryl Gates was like by the chief's side the entire time. And you should tell me what your point of view, please. Yes, exactly. So that reaction, that riot was not just because of that one situation. So all that just, poof, all of it exploded. with Daryl Gates

36:21 my meeting with him And I thought, that's really crazy. I joke. I couldn't eat my food because I was so shocked by the whole thing that he had so much, I think the next day, actually, because the city council was really – they had very liberal guys on that board, people on that board, rather. just what's going down this time's time. It'll just pass.

39:37 And actually, Charlie Rose, of all people, said, you should write a book. For example, in 1984, I met Sting, you know, the lead singer of The Police. prison and tortured every single day of her life for 18 months. And she went on the amnesty tour only for a few days Now, many things happened after that that I was able to use that, like I became, when

42:54 I love that movie. So, but we thought like, but if you could, if you could have an entire story kind of like cope with meds and the wife. So I found that all of these insights, you know, that we're referring to, the ones that you have when you're, you know, just getting off stage and you realize, wow, I could talk to my buddies or this new guy for a minute. Those random moments that you get to talk to somebody can often produce a story or an insight,

46:10 Because we really are a combination or an accumulation of all of our experiences. She used to be on Kill Tony. Yeah. You make them comedic. It's a combination of all those things And being able to bring it into someone's attention again yeah and recreating it again the same way you did before but being in the moment and and Right. Yeah. Yeah. You're allowing them to.

50:08 Yeah. They think there's money in podcasts. And the best way to do that is to actually enjoy doing podcasts right that's really the best I never took out ads. Not make it a commercial experience. enjoy it and do it and do the best i can and try whoever i'm talking to try to connect with them oh finally you hit something no finally i hit two things something finally two things one thing was

52:55 She's got a master class on this Well, she's just not knowing. That, wow, she's like a scientist in this area. Well, how's pricing work? So then it got to be kind of longer, and then I had to go someplace. So it was memorable for sure. A little bit. She was really mad about the idea of a pimp. I guess protection, right? Yeah. What do you mean by house staff?

55:50 insane. I'm glad that you pointed that out. Yeah, no, it's not that. So apparently she worked at our house for like almost three months. It says we're both equal. eyes and we were really dialed in. Otherwise, they wouldn't share these private things or these insights. They wouldn't share their heart with me if they didn't feel I was present with them.

58:12 All statistics point, millennials will admit that one quarter of them will admit that they're He's right on the couch. That's why these kids, they just ghost girls or ghost guys, just vaporize because they don't have feelings. Yeah, yeah. From multiple levels Because it's like a tool. I look at people. Per day, you mean? I'm sure I'm in that. their their emails and their mentions and and going back and forth with this and that looking

1:01:55 Well, at some point, I think we're going... I have this feeling that the privileged people, or I don't want to say it that way. interrupt people i've learned how to not talk so much i've learned how mean, I've learned how to not interrupt people. Yes. Yeah. bam, i just had lunch with one of my funniest close friends his name is jimmy ivine and he's a music

1:04:05 Or we said, okay, we think we know what we want. Yeah. right doctor yes and said I just feel listless. It's about me. But isn't that the Adderall mindset? It's almost like assaultive, isn't it? Sorry. You'll find it. You know, a large train box. And he says, yeah. It gives you the energy to do that. Do they ever – if you ever ask somebody on the show, like, oh, you probably wouldn't.

1:06:53 Like at comedy clubs or on the show? how many journalists are on it he's not on it I go how many he goes fucking all Geez. I can't do it. I'm at my house, and she – I hope I'm not going to – let me see if I'm okay here. of my bed that's That's a good doctor. I go, I don't think I can survive it. with those lollipops All the time, man. I smoke a lot of pot.

1:09:51 Oh, so you could actually I don't believe you Let me see that. Eat one of these. But I know it's not good for me. Be careful with this. I mean, can you do it during the day and be functional, highly functional? Because you're so high functioning. Ride the wave. I think I'll freak out and It enhances my sense of community, makes you more sensitive, makes food taste better.

1:12:05 You dig it Like last year Over the month In a cool way. First of all it tells you It shows it Okay So do you use a CPnea, so I know because I go to an app. I have an app. Look at this. How many? I think 37 Okay That's what it says No In the corner four. So you took your mask off I wear a mouthpiece. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kevorkian's the murderer guy. I have a fat tongue.

1:15:24 beat down the next day it'll show you on the application. Like here's your heart rate. Your Yeah Reading you know And Ari Shaffir They just lost weight. getting high on exercise and And so then this year- It gives me something to do. But more importantly, for people, it's nice for people that maybe don't even know that they have a little bit of an issue with substances.

1:18:05 a couple beers hey you want to do a shot all right let's do a shot and then the next thing like oh For sure. So that's what we do all the month Yeah No Remember November of us it's a lot of bonding and it's very fun. The podcasts we have are very fun. Maybe it'd be better if you exercised and really thought about things this way. too much and he's calmed down quite a bit apparently because of doing that first podcast

1:21:05 Oh, intermittent fasting? But that particular thing is about losing weight, I think, right? Yeah. and then you cannot eat for x amount of hours whether it's 10 or 12 or 14 yeah you get accustomed It does seem hard Four days You get used to it You can do anything you want get in the right prescription but like the thing that we talked about like sober october

1:23:51 We've done it a couple years in a row now, three years in a row. all the month of november i'm going to work out one hour a day six days a week period and then Yeah, it doesn't work. You have to make sure that you're accountable. sober october why don't you do sober october with It was a little bit. Yeah, that's the thing. And then, by the way, No.

1:26:58 I will. Yeah. So thank God. Well, it really does on? Oh, that's a good way of putting it She wants me to live Sure Yeah, so thank God Yeah Right, right. Yes, it's terrible for your health and you lose oxygen to your brain. I don't want to do any, because then I'll think, I just. I don't brag about it. beach her beach was called little doom you know doom beach little doom and she talks to these she

1:29:16 That is what's called fat shaming. Well that's But it makes people feel bad I'm the latter Let's say you're with someone you only know a little bit. You got to be real careful, especially with the ladies. I can't believe you said that. What are you talking about? I don't like white guys. I got it. We can talk about So some girls- Or- It really is. There's not much you can do.

1:32:40 those two words don't go together well. that's one of them but i mean if if things like crisper and genetic manipulation and things they're Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And see what they say. Yeah. Bill Maher was talking about on his television show that maybe we should be shaming people more. It's not something that you can't fix, and that's one of the things that people have

1:36:05 I just did a couple of minutes and I just kept going. but it really strengthened my core. I just do it to kind of get going. I mean, you're always on your toes. It's very trendy right now, too. And then they also have weighted ropes, which makes it more intense. That I did without fail Also it helps me get into the gym without fail. Because I don't well, it helps me so much. Also, it helps me get into the gym without fail because I don't want to have him wait.

1:38:24 He wrote notes. i didn't read them He says bro a lot, yes. Is that bad? What's up, fella? I like it. I'd be like hey fella You're going to get back to it What kind of advice did he give you? Oh, so he did Wikipedia. He knows your show really well. I like the Rogan podcast You're so for 20 minutes. you know him, That's what I do, but I don't want you to have surgery.

1:42:32 Yeah. Is there anything Well the place I go is in Santa Monica That'd be awesome. That's great. You put on your feet, you there's four different things you can do you open them I might even do those little slides. Yes, thank you. Shout out to Buster. like five to nine or so you run right from the gym straight over to tennis so no no missing time Coffee?

1:46:00 I really enjoy it. That you're still I just want to My life's good He's not a big kid, but he wanted to own it. What other kind of things do you like to do with your day? Are you supposed to do it twice a day? I know I should, and I'm trying to. Shout out to Veronica. Okay. I just find it amazing how many TM people Won't tell you their Their Have that much power over you

1:49:19 I just concentrate other things and i have to get back on track it always does there's no way around that i think But keep on track. meditation that has a name to it or no not really just something stuff i read about and um i started Shout out to the float lab. They're portable ones, too, aren't they? I did it so makeshift But the best thing that I found was inside the tank was to just concentrate on breathing,

1:51:50 is to just concentrate on breathing. Where's he at? I think he's, for for me i think the best i've met a few of them but he he made without saying take it who's really into what they're into. Well, you'll like how it's described. No fiction at all? There are so many types of underdog stories that it's... So anyway, so I have that basic knowledge. you know, video director,

1:55:29 again, archaeologically, So he was kind of a classic American filmmaker that looked at everything with sort of a discovery lens. And what I found was Jewish writers, Christian actors. Yeah, it just doesn't play. But it just doesn't work. It's like that's the counterpoint is what works. Thank God we got tiebreaker here. But I thought, you just don't, you cannot get enough respect just doing comedy.

1:59:18 Like they picked that guy, the classy guys. I understand. It's bad. What did you think of The Joker? Masterpiece. Oh my God, those sequences and the going down the stairs and the music choices, I liked it. I think it was a very, very unusual movie. great yeah i was like fuck i walked out of the theater like fuck yeah it just blows you away Yeah. Yeah.

2:03:09 I have friends who know him Okay I really enjoyed it man to be able to talk to you. Thank you.