Joe Rogan Experience #1373 — Kyle Kulinski Transcript
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0:00 Boop! Here we go. Hello, Kyle. And then even when I got here, I was like, I got to get this dry-cleaned. Yeah, now what are they trying to get from Julian Assange? But they hate him as well because Trump has basically been convinced by the people around him in the White House And the American people deserve to know about this. This shouldn't be top secret.
2:16 when he showed what we were doing in Vietnam That was that collateral murder video? You know what I mean? It doesn't have a home. the helm of this stuff but all of these things now it's precedent he's not doing anything that deep state. I know people think that's like this what you can call the deep state i know people Yeah, drastically negative, to put it mildly, right?
5:18 So this is like the soft power option, if you will. see what happens and then move from there but what we're doing now is it's just baked into the cake moving into large parts of africa to extract minerals and see natural resources yes and this you just kind of go up on somebody's shores prop them up as a dictator, material well being, we're going to give you a solid infrastructure. And then it's like okay no we're actually going to provide you with uh you know material well-being we're going to give you a solid infrastructure and then it's like you look at
8:34 And in many ways, that's a good thing. So this is something that you never hear about. if you will, kind of making decisions and the president just kind of goes along with it. and control. And one of the things that he, Mike Baker from the CIA, one of the things that he was explaining, he said, you have to realize that there is no such thing as industry independent of government in China.
11:32 mean, that's been a thing that's been known for a long time that they'll jack patents and intellectual Have you ever heard about this? But really, it's the powerful moneyed interests and the elites that kind of run everything. It's crazy. Right. You're right. And he actually said, like, we should have taken the oil. They're like, no big deal or anything, but we're just going to go into Texas and we're just going to jack all your oil.
15:07 But is it better? east i don't know why we're there it's so stupid to do in the first place but when you look at what politically it's it comes across sometimes as a positive because nobody interaction does he actually have with the generals how much interaction that's that's the establishment Republican. do all the work like that. He's always doing rallies.
18:29 Steve Mnuchin of Goldman Sachs. while he goes around and just makes the name for himself dynamic that's going on right now it's a giant hustle that's right it's a giant hustle and distance like nosferatu i mean how many women have come out and accused that guy of sexual assault got out of the way then the next night was a debate at the debate joe he brought like eight
21:21 Never really go on defense. what it is, he's going to flip it. He's going to flip it back on you. So the new thing is the This is violating every rule. again the conversation isn't man he trump shouldn't have been doing that the conversation is okay sure And they say the prosecutor that eventually came into place actually investigated the biden eighty three thousand dollars a month is a lot of fucking money and this is where i think like
24:43 And Nancy Pelosi even said, we're going to limit the scope of the impeachment this and this is going to be the thing that we're going to hang our hat on and nancy pelosi even said we're going to limit the scope of the impeachment committing a genocide in yemen we know they're committing a genocide in Yemen, we know that we're arming them, Okay, so what they did is,
26:14 but just the fact that you have this personal private business, to someone like them well you know but then what i always think about when people make that point Like at least the hotel rooms, it's like real. I don't. Even if it's only $300,000, which I know most people hear this, With $500,000 a speech, that's one talk for one hour, and it costs nothing for him.
29:16 You're trying to serve your country. businesses and they say oh there's nothing to see here there's no problem but then you dig into the it's not like it didn't happen with bill clinton it's not like like with barack obama it was Where is that right now? Maduro because he's not a U.S. ally, so they could harp away on all the negative things Are they really killing people for sorcery?
32:07 Eh, what are you going to do? He wanted them to chop this guy up and put him in argument in the white house sitting next to you know the the Saudi crown prince he's like they're is charged with apprehending sorcerers and reversing the detrimental From? Yeah How do you say that? On their hands Yeah. So classical liberal in some instances means just like libertarian because that's what
35:24 saying it's like you're you're like like okay if you call someone a racist that's what they're gonna say no i'm not saying that i know it's an analogy but i'm saying it's like you're you're too like like okay if you call someone a racist But it's like the word is weird. that's one of those where i hear people say that and they go well that guy's republican
36:49 Right, and this gets back to the point of labels marketplace it'll take free market will take care of it capitalism unfettered is the best kind of Do I? Look at this expression. And on a belief in natural law for long periods of time, and you just step back, you're going to have a massive period of chaos well and then it was followed by the great depression and then you saw it again actually
40:24 You need some amount of enforcement of things that make sense like i love when libertarians you saw what happened with that standoff between the Mexican military and the drug cartel. what do you do i mean if i'm in his position i go hey man i can't have you doing a genocide in a is John Norris. And John Norris, he got a job initially as a game warden because, you know,
42:52 So there's more doing it. and, you know, they go to the National Forest, and they fucking set up shop shop and so these guys these uh game wardens became like a paramilitary something else and then that would open a whole another pandora's box because what do you Sudafed. The reason being is because people used to just buy everything off the shelf, throw it into a basket, bring it up to the counter, and they would use that stuff to make meth with.
45:14 We'll get to that. Question because I'm a little torn on this next one doctor and get a prescription for that i'm talking about over the counter right okay so do you think Why wouldn't you choose that Are the ones that are interesting i think this was cinco de mayo if i remember correctly so he's eating a taco bowl and the They realized that it's all filled with Sudafed.
47:30 Yes, because there's a certain form of Sudafed that they sell in the United States. further because i don't know if you watch this video I sent you a while ago, but I was absolutely floored by the contrast between the speech Trump gave at CPAC this year and then the speech Trump gave at the UN this year. at the debates with hillary clinton yeah he did yeah, this whole conglomeration of all of his sniffing moments.
49:30 I remember, I'll never forget the morning I woke up and I go on Twitter, which is part of my morning routine, That you're just like Or he tweeted Yeah Yeah. today's day and age we've kind of like evolved out of that and you're not going to get another Right. Exactly. know what the fuck that is you get the sense that there's multiple layers of analysis like and she
52:33 She's in the military. Because Tulsi Gabbard has spoken strongly against Yeah, and it's like no are you controlled opposition? was exposed the russian stuff where they're making all these different facebook twitter No one does. And they spread primarily because most people don't have the time to look into these things. from this Muslim meeting. And they're doing this to try to, even if it's 1% or 10%, if they can disrupt democracy by 4%, 5%, here or there, it's incredibly effective.
57:14 clinton as of this or paint joe biden as of that or paint you know and what they're doing is they're has kind of shocked me is the degree to which this is relied upon and used as the scapegoat to say why is why is russia trying to prop up bernie sanders why is he trying to prop up bernie Part of the whole dispute is you see something like that, Nobody understands what the fuck is going on. That's the point. The point is to sow seeds of doubt
59:50 sure that that doesn't distract us from focusing on issues that really do matter because oftentimes like a whole fake website Like, oh, fuck America? Also, they were doing it for Cuba, not doing it. You know, if we went down that path, how would it impact the broader economy? conversation where the entire conversation is about stuff like this or the entire conversation
1:02:15 and agreement on a piece of legislation, it was all like flowery, happy language, agree to further uh artificially prop up u.s institutions let's agree to wall street bailouts becomes law. So then it would be like 65% in favor of of it and so we'd win on that one and you can go down the yang hasn't spoken about this yet and again these are brilliant people who have great ideas they
1:04:46 It would be so easy to implement and joe think of the positive effects of this informed instead of just having them vote on it based on public perception have them vote on it that's what you're going to say. Osama bin Laden's dead. oil had a lot to do with it as well the The military-industrial complex where, you know, Scary. of what war was for, war i mean look how much again the defense industry in this country raytheon boeing halliburton there are jobs tied to the defense industry in every state in this country that
1:08:00 And there you go again. Joe, that's a giant issue. I was here. Okay, we're going to have tomatoes legal in Ohio, but you can only buy them from Bob. Right. the person in government probably funneled the money for his campaign yes and that's the honestly the military industrial complex also gives to democrats not just to republicans right so you But what's interesting is it's always going to be dependent upon a single individual
1:11:27 That's a wrap baby It's fascinating It was so hilarious to watch this. and you're standing up for rules being applied evenly. and she joked around about it at these meetings she joked around about it and in conferences This is the story that broke. exposed and tulsi exposed it just like click turn the lights on well look at the steve mnuchin thing so it's a big club and you ain't in it is the point to steal from george carlin remember when
1:14:57 Bond villains. And the fact that she looks like she should be fucking a football player or something. What they would do is- Steve Mnuchin and Goldman Sachs, it was found that in the lead up to the subprime mortgage They were making money in two different ways. The most unbelievable car. The Wall Street bailout cost $14 trillion. National pride Dude it's like an airport
1:17:23 Whoa that is kind of crazy I came from JFK though, thank God. Oh, my God. signs on all these different different lots this is so outdated man airports in general like it's and it was just never ending. Because I don't fly too much. Clear you pay for it and you just put your fingers on the little screen insulation right as as a celebrity period if you're a famous person it's you already have a
1:20:06 But if some other famous schmuck did it, people would be like, fuck that guy. Like, oh, well, what have you done? and they need to be regulated and we can fix that moving forward that's a giant giant percentage of the problem is that garbage patch thing i haven't read about this in years but there's like a It's enormous. Does it work now? Yeah it's actually got an R in it
1:22:25 That is very good. Yeah. Yeah, so that's how it works. really are and you've made this point before on the podcast we're relying on like world oh many times over now yeah which is i don't think we're ready for that no it's where i would one-up obama and so trump has actually directly against um john bolton and mike pompeo off the handle and we don't really trust him with a nuclear weapon.
1:26:33 What did you get from them as a result of it? And then what happened? Syria like we have now they're jihadists right that was the famous uh clinton speech we came we saw he died she's had an interview laughing about it yeah This was in the 1980s when they had, or maybe early 1990s, when they had pushed back the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan, there were headlines calling him a freedom fighter.
1:29:01 trump's reaction to baghdad getting caught classic trump Situation Room photos like Obama did photo and find out what was taken i mean the cameraman he could have not set the camera right Yeah, I mean, I guess because they have to for security. Cat5. you know as amazing as it is but he feels like he has to go above and beyond to do so that it can't
1:31:29 about Mike Pence, Yes. about the trump era is even though he knows how to do relentless offense and not stop attacking I think there's basically a 0% chance he'll get impeached at the moment that for some reason would make them flip on him but he can almost do anything realities and yeah i mean what's amazing to me is watching the media agree with the establishment
1:34:07 And he puts on this smug act, and he starts yelling at everybody, and it's like, you know that you don't even want to be yelling right now. And that was at least two years ago. It's just like a fucking Ikea table. And I know that because, remember the whole Russiagate thing? them and you're informed and that is so rare man and even the fact that you're able to give props
1:36:18 It wasn't the Jussie Smollett thing. It was amazing With Dave Chappelle. people know you're fucking with them and then they go oh okay well you guys crosses some sort of a line, The Greenland thing? Come on, man. then you can go up there. I promise not to do this to Greenland. Because he doesn't say Trump in that photo. But what's more terrifying, I think, than anything, that is a hilarious picture.
1:39:52 So there was a report that came out about a year ago which found that basically large swaths of the Middle East will be uninhabitable at a certain point because it would just be too hot for human beings to live there. what's happening now by a thousand okay because that's what's going to happen at some point it's we're highlighting the fact that yes, we're going to move towards renewable and green technology.
1:41:53 We could lead the world on that front or we could lag behind Russia. to ExxonMobil. And then, yes, what we need to do is invest in a variety of different things that show thing and how we're finally leading the world and in our rightful place i find it hilarious that thorium now let me just say i'm not i'm not talking about a thorium car because there was a car that
1:44:02 thorium is bad and totally off the table. It just means that that specific car But I do know that we need to invest in this the 70s and 60s i'm skeptical on that point yeah and i'm skeptical because at every step of the it Three Mile Island, Five Mile Island, whatever it's called. you know, You're like, cold, uh, It's fucking so sunny. Yeah. You don't realize it.
1:47:11 They don't understand. it's a different feel even in a place like new york city there's a bond that happens when everyone's That's me too. because they're all italian they're living in these italian neighborhoods and you know and From what I've heard, because I've actually because i've actually i've been to canada Yeah, you hate it. I definitely support an idea like that
1:49:41 Bernie if you're listening poll nonetheless. He's now leading Post-heart attack. Like, oh, if you overcome adversity. attack your body's telling you something your body's telling you something. Your body's telling you, hey, man, you need to stop redlining this engine. It'd be hilarious Yeah, get a nutritionist It's like he knocked something loose. who I absolutely love, he said it best.
1:52:23 care so everybody gets health care everybody gets college we're going to abolish student loan debt we're going to have so that if something comes up, you need a leg fixed, getting money from their social security taken out because they owe student loans if that's not the most desperate to address because i can some people are going to hear what i just said about you know medicare for
1:54:33 Because we have an unnecessary for-profit middleman that essentially acts like a mafia. that's not kyle kalinsky talking that's a detailed study from the university of massachusetts amherst along and said no whoa whoa whoa hey middleman guy we're gonna get rid of you and joe you want They will come. Go ahead. I want to pay for that one or that one or that one.
1:57:17 And we have 500,000 people who go bankrupt as a result of medical bills. that sell you supplemental insurance, insurance or or or plastic surgery things of that nature but that's an important point because real So maybe the market So you can't say, by some charlatan. off the backs of people while people die because they can't get health insurance. Yes, it tens of millions of dollars off the backs of
1:59:41 study this stuff all the time and every single time they look at it the uS. comes dead last in the developed world when it comes to health care. There's public funding of private insurance, public funding of public insurance. I dislike that. explained to people, it's kind of a no brainer and you can get people to realize like, no, no, He's got a lot of support, for sure.
2:01:48 words he looks exhausted he looks like he's just waiting for them to shut the door so he can take literally like hiding him from the public as much as possible well they have to they have to because fundraising numbers bernie is breaking all records when it comes to individual donations even outracing trump dollars in the last quarter bernie raised 30 and joe raised nine so bernie happy look at
2:04:16 think a lot of his policies i agree with i really really agree with this whole The exoneration of student loan debt And I think it's a rigged system Because there's a certain incentive that I think that certain doctors have towards excellence. any more money than anybody else which is like the most extreme well that's like authoritarian And whenever we respond, no, man, we're talking about social democracy.
2:06:13 switch it and say no no there's socialists so we can't do that well which is it we have a giant is it makes you automatically predisposed to ignore or to refute the concepts that are on the other side. and you couldn't deviate from the line that was exciting that's true we got so they wanted it to i agree i have a thing that i go down and i did this in some of my events at politicon as well
2:08:45 so ingrained in this idea of left versus right democrat versus republican and this is the choices that happening that you really do have ultimately the choice of Republican or Democrat. So then the the existing infrastructure, because you're not going to build a counter infrastructure because there's so much name recognition it's like saying of power and positions where they can influence the way policy is dictated because they've
2:11:49 That's exactly right. think they're corrupt and i don't think they're looking out for our best interest but i think Yeah. Everybody's like, I hate them. Every presidential election, take the three biggest issues. That's what I'm saying. It goes right around it. that kind of culminated with Citizens United in the modern era and McCutcheon in the modern era.
2:15:34 do x because that's called a quid pro quo that's direct bribery but all you have to do is add a implied clearly yes we're not idiots everybody gets that and so that's like the weasley last You should be able to go to any kind of prostitute you want. Do you have aspirations of running for office someday? what I want to run for office but right now you're you enjoy talking about it quite a bit and you're
2:18:06 man. I know the first thing they do is because they've already So, you know, it's as we already described earlier uh you know the status quo just kind of continued chugging along you down right and that's just the nature of the way it works but no i don't want to run for office But you also don't have an overlord. should probably do these more often because i learned a lot of shit from you too thank you it
2:20:33 Let's do it more often, my friend. Tell everybody how they can get a hold of you. That was great.