Joe Rogan Experience #1381 — Donnell Rawlings Transcript

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0:00 why is that i don't know it just feels when you it's when you say turn my shit up the engineers You need to change the places you hang out, son. All the rappers Come on Joe Or time for rap You like What I try to do And you tried to. Would you be able to spit it? You're like, you hit me hard, hit me to the hip, hit me to the hip. a song whatever you it was a cassette so it would play then you had to rewind it right back to that

3:11 and play the music from your boombox So you could record other people's shit, too. percussions. I'm old school, was they was really, Sorry, did you ever listen to when the Brand New Heavies got together with a bunch of different rappers? Oh, yeah? i was saying like think about the the number the sheer number of white rappers who have actually They treat the new green person, the Jeep person, they treat him like shit.

6:25 veteran probably on the planet earth right across from i appreciate it i appreciate that um uh That's what they do when they give you an LOR, a letter of reprimand, Yeah. They were like, every Monday at 11 o'clock, I would get randomly tested for drugs. Because the way my birthday felt, fell some kind of way when I graduated from high school because I was only 17.

8:36 kid like when i went to kunsan korea like they didn't i didn't know that there was no drinking On base I didn't know what the fuck Fruit flavor shit time all right i'll give you a case of beer it was almost like being in jail i'll give you a case of Because I thought, No, there was no war right back then. It was my whole life. and he was on the Army taekwondo team.

10:46 I mean, that was the case with some guys that couldn't pursue an NBA career. he um was it riddick bow riddick bow joined the marines because he was trying to get some discipline He had a problem with conditioning. Because when you're a guy who's a multimillionaire and you're a world champion and you're still lazy, you're like, fuck, man, what do I have to do?

12:51 go i mean he was only in for a short period of time yeah but like i said i think i think a lot Like, he can keep it together, and he can string together good sentences. He was so nice looking. He was so fun to watch. It seems like when I look at boxing and stuff like that, and people can have an unblemished They offered him a rematch with He's still in his prime He's only 35 years old He's like no thank you No thank you And they said, look, this is a big super fight. You know, Andre Ward should come out of retirement.

14:57 I have money. He made money. better person like we talked about he's like yeah he was like i think it makes me a better person No, this is the question the people want to know. I started shaking because I was like, where is the tape of what happened fucking afterwards? You are a piece of shit. undisputed yeah yeah and that was a good show i watched it on i think it was hbo showtime well i watched the documentary

18:12 while he was fucking people up, though. And people thought it was a joke. What the fuck happened He had like a good he did really good who doesn't have a goddamn george foreman grill that's a great grill yep when That's like sacrilege. Come over that's not what you know You can't cook it like you cook a beefsteak. I was saying that you haven't cooked elk before.

20:43 that's a great way to see now i'm on a different level right yeah. Sous vide. The sous vide. That fly shit. Oh, that's a great way to cook. See? Now I'm on a different level, right? And then you see this big-ass bucket of water, and then you keep putting your finger in it. just melt in your mouth it's good for eggs too it's good for Yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:01 Everything. Cows are just sitting around eating Like a tri-tip is nice Yeah I'm just telling you what I do That's so true. There's two guns. That's a subway footlong. Yes. if you've got generations and generations of projects and welfare and everything, No, it's not. But, you know, Tom Petty died from it. Like Artie Lang was telling me that he accidentally had it in Coke

25:20 Oh, why did I think he had a... But that doesn't make any sense It's like a lot of times it's the people start off, they get a back injury. Fuck that. I could finally realize the lyrics in most of these trap songs when i was high off that shit so i'm like this is what designer was saying all this time anytime you want it bang bang bang bang bang you could hit it damn but i think for a lot of people

27:33 I played a heroin addict on HBO's The Corner years ago. to take them into this world? And this is needed escape. But people just cope with it different. No way. Yeah. Like having a lot of people I think one of the real problems They don't feel like they're in a group. in your life you don't have anybody that's telling you the truth or lying you know and there's a lot

31:03 everywhere and that's where everybody wants to show their lives. even you with the show your shows whatever it's so weird like when i first started doing those shows at the beginning but then after a while he gets to a point where it feels kind of cool it's like It's Don L. Bologna and cheese sandwiches for dinner and shit. very weird man but then it's like you and but then on the other side of it you want people to see you doing good things because people want people want to follow your

34:04 through my phone and shit. And all you see is this motherfucker. Does he just keep no apps on his phone? fuck right and if you're the worst thing is a person that's going when you're going out with And I lost the phone, and I was like, fuck. and I woke up and the first thing I wanted to know asia went to like he went to vietnam yeah but he was already loaded. Yeah, he had money. Yeah, you don't just...

36:27 That was two years ago. Unless you're old like He'll leave me a text message. It's like, who's next, right? I love him. And then And then he He gave me a funny joke Fahim Anwar. He calls him Kalabeeb. Steep Oak He just fucking Segway that And then you'll have stories, They don't do spots. that I really respect about him Yeah. And no one's there to see you.

40:52 You know what I'm saying? It's so bad. They only do sets when they're on the road. and I know what I'm working with. Yeah, I mean, that's it. and you get that stretch sign. And motherfucking Joe Rogan just comes and just bazooka torches the whole motherfucking arena and shit. And I was like, oh, shit, I'm about to go on. It was a great moment. And Dave was about to go on stage, and he looked at me, and he goes, not a whole lot of motherfuckers get to do shit like this.

44:16 And then when he came out, man, it felt like we was walking Tyson into the ring. Because people see you do these arenas, these amphitheaters. I hate bombing. Right. It never ends. And if you don't go on stage, that won't blossom. And he didn't really do well the first time he went on stage. He said, up-a-da, up-a-da, up-a-da. No I gotta wait No fucking more

47:10 He said, well, you know what? Oh. Yeah but you still Hold on I had that. and he said he was a fan of mine and he keeps fucking calling me for projects but he's so We got Snoop Dogg retweeted it. and he threw me up in um jay and solid bob reboot did you know him pre-weed i knew of him pre-weed those uh it didn't just just start pounding out writing shit yeah i used to go to his fucking Yeah. He's one of those dudes. He's one of those like Wiz Khalifa type dudes.

51:02 independent like did you ever see that movie Red State that he did? It's like it's a horror suspense thriller movie. I'm assuming it's going to be fun. he just likes doing a thing like he had his thought in his head to do this kind of movie you know who I like him a lot. scam i think i think he's telling the truth though i think he really is obsessed with big

53:51 You know, he had done that Bobcat character forever, and then he started directing stuff. Man, he used to do interviews and just blaze it. Like, when you actually talk to him. But he's, he does a lot of different shit. like everybody yo and then he likes Yeah, you're going to think sledgehammer. Yeah, and then a guy going to come down, and then a dude going to come,

56:12 reason gallagher looked like dave chapelle to me and i was thinking because dave like skateboards I said, black Gallagher. But those are the classic sketches. it's hard to beat that when that sketch is going on When Neil's head explodes. I remember when we were I mean, it just exploded like, wow. through whatever didn't keep that going i don't know what happened i don't either but god damn

59:34 But the show was just so iconic. Oh, this was SNL. you know the ones i'm talking about yeah that's that's a crazy scene to spoof too right that was I can't fuck with that and it was any glimpse Yes. Wow A fucking dope ass Everybody used to stop through. as a stand-up. I think it's important You just hope everybody acknowledges it at the same time. You know, you're not exploiting it, but it's just interesting.

1:03:55 And the thing that I found interesting was that they were a comedian writing a critical article, which is all fucked up right out the gate. And people demand compliance for you to behave a certain way. But it's like the worst way to talk to people. Joe, you probably had this. The asshole could be in anything. It could be in gay. It could be in white. It could be in anything You take the asshole out of anything. The asshole could be in anything.

1:05:36 We could be better at it. they are i think we get caught up in in in this there's a fucking team thing that happens with Whatever side you on. He's in that camp. And then there was another guy I met. He was a White House correspondent. Right. i don't think it's as divided as everybody thinks it is i think the problem is people divide us you We seem like we need it, but the problem is having anybody that's got control like that,

1:08:10 Because, like, there's no way to deny some of the things that Donald Trump have done for America, some of the things he's done for the black community. connection between their policies i don't think that i think you inspired you can i think you can Like, yo, I'm telling you, Seth, sometimes I wake up, I'm on CNN. when it come to trump how y'all motherfuckers still letting him make you mad like like yo i'm

1:10:00 that he could win because he got numbers that's the argument he could win how does that work though Yeah, but that was the case, and that's the case with Obama and his shit to Trump and everything. It's the most polarizing. You know what I'm saying? people saying they'll fight to keep their guns like what are we talking about here man i don't That's always going to be scary to me.

1:13:05 gun on them at all times i mean just don't pop the shot i know that shit i wish we didn't need that They can't wait to fix them. knock against them i get it i can see myself getting really into guns well that's a problem But a lot of people don't want to. have saved their lives with guns because some of them can't deny also that i know this sounds crazy

1:15:18 carry a gun and he still at the end of the day was the victim of what people can consider to be an overzealous Have every black person in Ohio register whoa, whoa, whoa, want to be able to protect myself i yeah i'm sure but then you got to ask yourself what environment to have to shoot them that goes back to what you said earlier. and it doesn't seem like there's any way out.

1:18:21 work at it what do you think anybody could do to change the cycle? Like, when you see impoverished neighborhoods that are the same way from the 1970s as they are in 2019, how do you fix that? You have to show them something that they don't. and then when a couple make through when a couple people do good we don't put the energy into Yeah. People need to think that they've got hope.

1:20:33 What would you have to do? bit of a bump before they can go to college. A teacher can have the best lesson plan and the best curriculum ever. and then they became unqualified to have their own parents, to ensure that these kids always had a place That's one thing, donated to the community he had kids in his videos he was doing everything he was trying to explain

1:23:21 He passed it on by his associations. in his parking lot Our community needs to check, motherfuckers, I mean, have they really tried to rebuild Iraq? And motherfuckers need, man. that they put into other countries. if we're a community, we all agree the United States is a community for all community We all need mentors. It's so interesting you said that with the mentor.

1:27:28 There was mainstream. that can fucking just I'm just giving him a shout out. He just did a write-up of him in New York Times talking about his lineage to D.C. comedy you know we got to go with money is i think a lot of part of his career was like a lot of his money There was these guys who were these Boston killers that would headline at Nick's Comedy Stop and all those comedy club stitches and all those places.

1:29:53 You broke the fuck meter. Because you only said it once. He took me through the trenches. yeah i wish him well too is his shit online can i see his stuff is on youtube yeah he probably and and fat doctor took him on his wing just like he took a lot of us on his wings and tell you those it up for a brother making money the right way, I was like this.

1:33:01 You knew it was coming out post, you know? That's what, that inspired me. It only holds like 110 people. And it's funny. fucking around in open bullshit, open mic, Really? That's beautiful. When you get that first check, you got to put some leather on, son. But he was in the moment. Yeah, probably. I was like, bitch, I said, look, this is not going to work.

1:36:07 I'm telling you, some, Yep. And when I was out here and I'm working at the store, six years in, and I got to go on after Martin Lawrence. And I got to watch him though, just to be in the room watching a legit comedy superstar you know six years in like watching him like i'm watching him all the no no no they didn't want to hear nothing and like i'll go some places with dave and like he'll get on stage and then the whole crowd just

1:38:09 Let me tell you. Yeah. five guys you just need a different platform i tell i tell any it's so weird because i'll meet you shouldn't encourage everybody to do it. Almost anybody A little bit of traction Right You can't just like that guy, my friend. It's happening. For you to not have a podcast is an atrocity. But you could do it. like doing podcasts

1:41:19 I was scared as shit It was like five months ago, son. What's up with that podcast? And you don't have to worry about getting fired. I do want to talk to you. I just did one. You got to critique it, son. I was like, fuck that. Yeah. Oh, really? The more people do it Where you can get an RSS feed You ain't gonna do it man We'll do it No man I'm going to air drop it to you.

1:44:19 Him and me. I was honest. This motherfucker's everywhere. knew like we had put the reps in yeah you know i'm saying it wasn't like this like swinging haymakers backstage of the festival or some shit right i was like oh man this shit It was perfect Like those shows felt special Like if I was a guy who likes stand up You know? Yo, you promised, son. We had to take care of it.

1:47:31 You got to pick it. Oh, yearly draft. I was giving myself an extra job They love you has to be done i know it's hard to get Well, don't quit. The little engine. like what happened with these tribes and when these these white settlers showed up and i'm it's savage too like the the murders when it talks about the murders and murdering murdering settlers and babies and all kinds of crazy shit like if you can't handle

1:51:27 It's going to go soon. It's like, oh, we're at 12 degrees. Push the houses back a little bit. Hawk. these motherfuckers show him a picture of it can we put a picture of it and then they just come The only thing you want to get rid of is stuff that fucks up your crops. I don't want to hear any small dick jokes. But I feel like if you straighten that fucker out, it'd be four inches.

1:54:11 i was so fascinating about that book um when they're detailing the lives of the comanche That sounds like something that would be turned into a series. It seems like it all the treaties that were broken and They didn't have baskets. when when you hear what's uh you know a well-researched accurate account of something and this dude had some real bow and arrows, some long-ass man-made.

1:56:36 If you could build a good bow. And it was no gauges or anything. were so crude in comparison to what people have today but back then it was the shit it was the shit. The Mongols, they had a bow, supposedly, according to... an article i can't i cannot remember what it was in but it was all detailing the science behind the bows. I don't know how to shoot one, honestly.

1:58:58 developed these you know calcified joints and all sorts of weird bone deformities just from pulling back these gigantic fucking bows. And aiming. If I could just be a fly on the wall and watch what it was like to be a Comanche in the 1800s, that would be fucking fascinating to see, man. Fuck, it is so, there's something about it that's so fascinating.

2:00:49 There was a guy named Dan Flores that wrote a piece about what was happening once Native American tribes started riding on horses and running down buffalo. But it seems like you would go like, if it was a weekend of that shit. But there's probably arguably way more animals around back then too. kicking everybody's ass especially the comanche apparently it's amazing man this book is it's got

2:02:36 Yeah, they would steal all their horses decided you know what i'm not we're not even gonna kill you we'll let you slowly run out of food and This will be perfect for you. Uncle Sam's. But then the Comanches, you said, came and took it. It just felt too, like, really cowboy. Not much changes. pollution, What the fuck is that? I eat those. No, it's like a gooey paste.

2:06:05 I eat the shit out of these Like say if I just need I'll have one of these You in between meals i'm like a little bit hungry oh you just squeeze that shit it's nutrition yep that's not just in a bag that's I don't think they ever expected What's more nutrition? Aren't allergic to almonds Hear it on an airplane And fiber But people get, Callan's mom's got an allergy to Brazil nuts, which is kind of crazy.

2:08:27 Yo Yeah Well it's also a deadly one That could kill you If you really wanted to sit down and freak out, you could. have um a minimum amount of knowledge and almost and a lot of shit do you hear about this shit It's not a mistake. i thought that was theo vaughn i was like what the fuck is that why you did it yo yo yo i was like That's fucking funny. He's a funny dude, that Theo Vaughn. We'll say. That's fucking funny.

2:11:18 Why is that funny? No, there's no. Shout out to everybody he was like he's named he was like it yeah it was funny man Every single show he does To see him too Remember he did that? So does this start off with him picking the mic back up? I don't know if he's getting ready to do a special. He's not just going up there winging it. And I'm sitting here going, oh, okay. I'm like, i'm like fuck i'm lazy like i need to get a goddamn tripod nah son everybody got different systems that's true but i when someone takes the watching and

2:15:01 I look like I'm telling a story. Like, as you're formulating the bit. you know? write something down just so you can have all your thoughts in one space, just listening like i think he's probably that's probably the way to do it if you're going to when i was just getting to the store he was like a hero in the in the comedy world you know to be fuck just happened you're like what the fuck it's weird but you get used to it you go oh they're

2:18:02 did deaf comedy jam right so everybody knew the Torre brothers or somebody with him any store wild back then yeah yeah there was there was moments where it was wild there it is guy tory that you don't hear from anymore. Yeah, it wasn't nothing to do. And that's over. You had to have some kind of TV show or something where people would come to see you.

2:20:00 new guys coming in and you start seeing like this one, Ari Shafir was already killing at the club by then. I can't even explain the energy on Tuesdays. Yeah And then Tuesdays He's doing it this Tuesday Yeah it's fun Why don't you do it every week He needs to farm it out It's amazing. Oh, yeah, I do. Just a little bit. What's up, Jamie? Wow. It spilled out to the street.

2:23:06 Him and Tretch from Naughty by Nature beat somebody up in the main room also. Fat Tuesdays. sundaes i do a lot of j david shows it's a great room the way it's designed it really is a great That's a good room to work, too. and people would buy ice. 78. Find out what year the store was opened. they're not hollywood they're like all the california with none of the hollywood like

2:25:51 So comedians were going the entire time. place that my friend adam ferrari used to work at that was in it was in like fuck like westwood or I wasn't thinking about that, no. i love that place and when i go there it seems like it's my crowd but i But I've heard people say that they're told they can't talk about certain things. He's the only club that ever told me I couldn't have Joey Diaz open for me, though.

2:28:07 The food is fantastic. You have to wear a suit? i've never been in that one but that one you have to wear a suit i want to go jimmy schubert is a then you do stand-up afterwards. Oh, my God, yeah. And that's when you start, shit start disappearing and shit. This motherfucker regurgitated some frogs before. i believe it but i've never seen it but i think there's there's levels to everything if you get

2:30:48 Have you ever been pickpocketed? In his stomach. What if that motherfucker don't come back out in 10 seconds he's already jiggling it right now you can see him fucking with the strap and it's Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, you heard Whitney Cummings oh, shit. Find me a fucking bunch of male magicians but maybe i'm a sexist piece of shit yeah i don't understand how no

2:33:17 like a bunch of women, magician How many of them are there? Faye Presto. Ning Kai. They're certainly the assistants. You're like baby Nobody's paid attention She can do it if she's a magician. I've never seen a female magician before. it's one of those things you hear it and you go fuck she's right she is right what other job A lot of girls don't end up having that problem.

2:36:17 The market's kind of flooded, but you could separate yourself from the pack Yeah, I heard this the other day. What can stop someone from being a magician? think that could mean anything he wants it to mean. He's a brilliant fella. He's like, what if I can buy my natural ability? a quick in and out yep all right well let's wrap this up then it's like that's the worst thing

2:38:28 but can I say in Springfield And And I'll be doing some dates to be called too soon you donald rollins show donald rollins show you produced it you already